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Career Summary
Years IP W L SV SO ERA
0 0.00
Birth Date3-30-1989
Height6' 6"
Weight180 lbs
Age29 years, 8 months, 11 days
BatsL
ThrowsL
5.12014
6.82015
5.82016
7.32017
5.62018
WARP Summary

MLB Statistics

Historical (past-seasons) WARP is now based on DRA..
cFIP and DRA are not available on a by-team basis and display as zeroes(0). See TOT line for season totals of these stats.
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YEAR Team Lg G GS IP W L SV H BB SO HR oppTAv PPF H/9 BB/9 HR/9 K/9 GB% BABIP TAv WHIP FIP ERA cFIP DRA DRA- WARP
2010 CHA MLB 21 0 23.3 2 1 4 15 10 32 2 .261 114 5.8 3.9 0.8 12.3 52% .271 .189 1.07 2.70 1.93 74 2.73 61.6 0.6
2011 CHA MLB 58 0 71.0 2 2 8 52 27 79 6 .259 106 6.6 3.4 0.8 10.0 52% .264 .217 1.11 3.15 2.79 78 3.19 74.1 1.3
2012 CHA MLB 30 29 192.0 17 8 0 167 51 192 19 .258 105 7.8 2.4 0.9 9.0 46% .294 .230 1.14 3.22 3.05 90 2.99 68.5 4.9
2013 CHA MLB 30 30 214.3 11 14 0 184 46 226 23 .268 99 7.7 1.9 1.0 9.5 47% .289 .236 1.07 3.20 3.07 87 2.84 68.0 5.5
2014 CHA MLB 26 26 174.0 12 4 0 129 39 208 13 .260 103 6.7 2.0 0.7 10.8 43% .280 .216 0.97 2.60 2.17 77 2.46 60.4 5.1
2015 CHA MLB 31 31 208.7 13 11 0 185 42 274 23 .257 103 8.0 1.8 1.0 11.8 43% .323 .234 1.09 2.70 3.41 72 2.35 54.9 6.8
2016 CHA MLB 32 32 226.7 17 10 0 190 45 233 27 .254 101 7.5 1.8 1.1 9.3 42% .279 .227 1.04 3.41 3.34 88 3.13 69.2 5.8
2017 BOS MLB 32 32 214.3 17 8 0 165 43 308 24 .258 104 6.9 1.8 1.0 12.9 40% .301 .212 0.97 2.43 2.90 72 2.51 53.4 7.3
2018 BOS MLB 27 27 158.0 12 4 0 102 34 237 11 .258 106 5.8 1.9 0.6 13.5 45% .283 .197 0.86 2.01 2.11 68 2.24 50.0 5.6
CareerMLB2872071482.3103621211893371789148.2591037.22.00.910.944%.291.2221.032.842.89792.6961.742.9

Statistics for All Levels

'opp' stats - Quality of opponents faced - have been moved and are available only as OPP_QUAL in the Statistics reports now.
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YEAR Team Lg G GS IP W L SV H BB SO HR oppTAv PPF H/9 BB/9 HR/9 K/9 GB% BABIP TAv WHIP FIP ERA cFIP DRA DRA-
2010 CHA MLB 21 0 23.3 2 1 4 15 10 32 2 .261 114 5.8 3.9 0.8 12.3 52% .271 .189 1.07 2.70 1.93 74 2.73 61.6
2010 WNS A+ 4 0 4.0 0 0 0 3 2 4 0 .249 116 6.8 4.5 0.0 9.0 45% .273 .210 1.25 2.89 2.25 0 0.00 0.0
2010 CHR AAA 7 0 6.3 0 0 0 3 4 15 2 .268 102 4.3 5.7 2.9 21.4 60% .250 .191 1.11 4.56 2.86 0 0.00 0.0
2011 CHA MLB 58 0 71.0 2 2 8 52 27 79 6 .259 106 6.6 3.4 0.8 10.0 52% .264 .217 1.11 3.15 2.79 78 3.19 74.1
2012 CHA MLB 30 29 192.0 17 8 0 167 51 192 19 .258 105 7.8 2.4 0.9 9.0 46% .294 .230 1.14 3.22 3.05 90 2.99 68.5
2013 CHA MLB 30 30 214.3 11 14 0 184 46 226 23 .268 99 7.7 1.9 1.0 9.5 47% .289 .236 1.07 3.20 3.07 87 2.84 68.0
2014 CHA MLB 26 26 174.0 12 4 0 129 39 208 13 .260 103 6.7 2.0 0.7 10.8 43% .280 .216 0.97 2.60 2.17 77 2.46 60.4
2014 CHR AAA 1 1 4.0 0 0 0 1 2 11 0 .242 106 2.3 4.5 0.0 24.8 100% .500 .122 0.75 -0.66 0.00 -37 1.15 24.6
2015 CHA MLB 31 31 208.7 13 11 0 185 42 274 23 .257 103 8.0 1.8 1.0 11.8 43% .323 .234 1.09 2.70 3.41 72 2.35 54.9
2016 CHA MLB 32 32 226.7 17 10 0 190 45 233 27 .254 101 7.5 1.8 1.1 9.3 42% .279 .227 1.04 3.41 3.34 88 3.13 69.2
2017 BOS MLB 32 32 214.3 17 8 0 165 43 308 24 .258 104 6.9 1.8 1.0 12.9 40% .301 .212 0.97 2.43 2.90 72 2.51 53.4
2018 BOS MLB 27 27 158.0 12 4 0 102 34 237 11 .258 106 5.8 1.9 0.6 13.5 45% .283 .197 0.86 2.01 2.11 68 2.24 50.0

Plate Discipline

YEAR Pits Zone% Swing% Contact% Z-Swing% O-Swing% Z-Contact% O-Contact% SwStr%
2010 372 0.5242 0.3683 0.7007 0.4821 0.2429 0.7766 0.5349 0.2993
2011 1093 0.5197 0.3989 0.6927 0.4806 0.3105 0.8315 0.4601 0.3073
2012 2999 0.5125 0.4502 0.7533 0.5654 0.3290 0.8423 0.5925 0.2467
2013 3279 0.5142 0.4492 0.7386 0.5605 0.3315 0.8265 0.5814 0.2614
2014 2747 0.4929 0.4798 0.7071 0.6270 0.3367 0.7986 0.5416 0.2929
2015 3316 0.4768 0.4922 0.6728 0.6502 0.3481 0.7588 0.5265 0.3272
2016 3417 0.5268 0.4873 0.7502 0.6344 0.3234 0.8109 0.6176 0.2498
2017 3418 0.5164 0.4974 0.6824 0.6119 0.3751 0.7694 0.5306 0.3176
2018 2524 0.4917 0.4790 0.6476 0.6003 0.3617 0.7383 0.5022 0.3524
Career231650.50630.47140.70810.59970.34030.79460.55300.2919

Injury History  —  No longer being updated

Last Update: 12/31/2014 23:59 ET

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
2014-04-18 2014-05-22 15-DL 34 32 Left Elbow Strain Flexor - -
2013-05-18 2013-06-02 DTD 15 13 Left Shoulder Inflammation Tendonitis - -
2013-05-13 2013-05-17 DTD 4 4 - Face Surgery Abscessed Tooth - -
2012-07-28 2012-08-06 DTD 9 8 Left Shoulder Fatigue - -
2011-03-28 2011-03-31 Camp 3 0 Neck Stiffness -

Compensation

Year Team Salary
2019 BOS $15,000,000
2018 BOS $12,500,000
2017 BOS $12,000,000
2016 CHA $9,150,000
2015 CHA $6,000,000
2014 CHA $3,500,000
2013 CHA $850,000
2012 CHA $500,000
2011 CHA $425,000
YearsDescriptionSalary
7 yrPrevious$32,425,000
2018Current$12,500,000
8 yrPvs + Cur$44,925,000
1 yrFuture$15,000,000
9 yrTotal$59,925,000

 

Service TimeAgentContract Status
7 y 61 dB.B. Abbott5 years/$32.5M (2013-17), options

Details
  • 5 years/$32.5M (2013-17), plus 2018-19 options. Signed extension with Chicago White Sox 3/7/13, replacing 1 year/$0.6M deal signed 2/22/13. 13:$0.85M, 14:$3.5M, 15:$6M, 16:$9.15M, 17:$12M. 18:$12.5M club option, $1M buyout. 19:$13.5M club option, $1M buyout. 2019 option increases by 1) $2.5M to $16M with a Cy Young in 2013-18, or 2) $1.5M to $15M with a second- or third-place finish in Cy Young vote in 2013-18 (met in 2014 vote). Award bonuses, including $15,000 for All-Star selection. Acquired by Boston in trade from Chicago White Sox 12/6/16. Boston exercised 2018 option 11/2/17. Boston exercised 2019 option at $15M 10/30/18.
  • 1 year/$0.5M (2012). Re-signed by Chicago White Sox 3/4/12.
  • 1 year/$0.425M (2011). Re-signed by Chicago White Sox 3/11.
  • 1 year (2010). Contract purchased by Chicago White Sox 8/4/10.
  • Drafted by Chicago White Sox 2010 (1-13) (Florida Gulf Coast). Signed 6/21/10, $1.656M signing bonus.

2018 Preseason Forecast

Last Update: 1/27/2017 12:35 ET

PCT W L SV G GS IP H BB SO HR BABIP WHIP ERA DRA VORP WARP
90o 16.2 5.9 0 29 29 219.9 147 47 302 19 .274 0.88 1.65 2.04 74.9 8.1
80o 15.9 6.3 0 29 29 214.0 151 48 294 20 .284 0.93 1.92 2.35 68.5 7.4
70o 15.7 6.7 0 29 29 209.8 153 49 288 20 .292 0.96 2.12 2.57 63.9 6.9
60o 15.5 7 0 29 29 206.3 155 49 284 20 .298 0.99 2.29 2.77 59.8 6.5
50o 15.3 7.2 0 29 29 203.0 157 50 279 20 .304 1.02 2.45 2.95 56.0 6.1
40o 15.2 7.5 0 29 29 199.7 159 50 275 21 .310 1.05 2.62 3.14 52.1 5.7
30o 14.9 7.8 0 29 29 196.3 161 51 270 21 .316 1.08 2.79 3.34 47.9 5.2
20o 14.7 8.2 0 29 29 192.3 163 52 264 21 .323 1.12 3.00 3.57 43.1 4.7
10o 14.4 8.7 0 29 29 186.8 166 52 257 22 .333 1.17 3.28 3.9 36.3 3.9
Weighted Mean15.47.202929203.11565027920.3031.012.442.9456.26.1

Preseason Long-Term Forecast (Beyond the 2018 Projections)

Playing time estimates are based on performance, not Depth Charts.
Year Age W L SV G GS IP H BB SO HR GB% BABIP WHIP ERA DRA H/9 BB/9 K/9 HR/9 WARP
20193015903232205162502792242.3041.032.682.947.12.212.21.06.7
20203114903131196151512642142.2981.032.702.966.92.312.11.06.4
20213214902929183147462492142.3061.052.773.037.22.312.21.06.0
20223314903131195154482692242.3051.042.682.947.12.212.41.06.4
20233414903131196155482672142.3051.042.662.917.12.212.31.06.5
20243513802727164131422231942.3041.062.763.027.22.312.31.05.5
202536960202011696301521442.3051.092.963.247.42.311.81.13.7
202637960191911492301521442.3041.072.933.217.32.412.01.13.6
202738850181810686281421242.3061.072.853.127.32.412.01.03.5

Comparable Players (Similarity Index 74)

Rank Score Name Year Run Average Trend
1 92 Roger Clemens 1992 2.92
2 87 Erik Bedard 2008 4.22
3 86 Jose Rijo 1994 3.81
4 86 David Price 2015 2.86
5 85 Justin Verlander 2012 3.06
6 85 Felix Hernandez 2015 3.57
7 84 Kevin Appier 1997 3.67
8 83 Zack Greinke 2013 2.74
9 82 CC Sabathia 2010 3.48
10 81 Juan Marichal 1967 3.51
11 81 Carlos Carrasco 2016 3.94
12 81 Josh Johnson 2013 7.08
13 81 Ron Guidry 1980 3.97
14 81 Jon Lester 2013 3.97
15 80 Kenta Maeda 2017 4.56
16 80 Tim Lincecum 2013 4.64
17 80 Yu Darvish 2016 3.86
18 80 Sandy Koufax 1965 2.41
19 80 Camilo Pascual 1963 2.75
20 79 Dan Haren 2010 4.21
21 79 Jake Peavy 2010 4.63
22 79 Tom Seaver 1974 3.36
23 79 Cole Hamels 2013 3.80
24 79 John Lackey 2008 3.91
25 78 Josh Beckett 2009 4.20
26 78 Don Sutton 1974 3.62
27 78 Johan Santana 2008 2.84
28 77 Ben Sheets 2008 3.36
29 77 Matt Garza 2013 4.23
30 76 Sean Marshall 2012 2.66
31 76 Alexi Ogando 2013 3.28
32 76 Bert Blyleven 1980 4.24
33 76 Adam Wainwright 2011 0.00 DNP
34 76 Jon Matlack 1979 4.55
35 76 Dean Chance 1970 4.70
36 75 Rich Gossage 1981 1.16
37 75 Ubaldo Jimenez 2013 3.70
38 75 Roy Oswalt 2007 3.40
39 75 Gio Gonzalez 2015 4.05
40 75 Hyun-jin Ryu 2016 11.57
41 75 Jered Weaver 2012 3.01
42 74 Curt Schilling 1996 3.39
43 74 Howie Pollet 1950 4.13
44 73 Harvey Haddix 1955 5.71
45 73 Lance Lynn 2016 0.00 DNP
46 73 Jordan Zimmermann 2015 3.97
47 73 Billy Pierce 1956 3.52
48 73 Anibal Sanchez 2013 2.77
49 72 Jacob deGrom 2017 3.89
50 72 A.J. Burnett 2006 4.44
51 72 Matt Cain 2014 4.68
52 71 Greg Maddux 1995 1.67
53 71 Mike Garcia 1953 3.51
54 71 Max Scherzer 2014 3.23
55 71 Andy Messersmith 1975 2.57 DNP
56 71 Kris Medlen 2015 4.63
57 71 Gaylord Perry 1968 2.88
58 71 Tyson Ross 2016 13.50
59 71 Andrew Cashner 2016 5.66
60 71 Daisuke Matsuzaka 2010 4.92
61 71 Daniel Hudson 2016 5.82
62 71 Frank Sullivan 1959 4.31
63 71 Robin Roberts 1956 4.69
64 71 Gavin Floyd 2012 4.50
65 71 Keith Foulke 2002 3.01
66 70 Lee Smith 1987 3.23
67 70 Mike Mussina 1998 3.71
68 70 Roy Halladay 2006 3.35
69 70 Brandon McCarthy 2013 4.73
70 70 Brett Cecil 2016 4.17
71 69 Alex Cobb 2017 3.91
72 69 Fergie Jenkins 1972 3.45
73 69 Bruce Sutter 1982 3.34
74 69 J.R. Richard 1979 3.02
75 69 Orel Hershiser 1988 2.46
76 69 Bret Saberhagen 1993 3.55
77 69 Steve Rogers 1979 3.51
78 69 Dallas Keuchel 2017 3.09
79 69 Carlos Zambrano 2010 3.82
80 69 Chris Tillman 2017 8.32
81 68 Zach McAllister 2017 2.32
82 68 Chris Young 2008 4.05
83 68 Hong-Chih Kuo 2011 9.67
84 68 Duane Ward 1993 2.13
85 68 Mat Latos 2017 6.60
86 68 Yovani Gallardo 2015 3.71
87 68 Jake McGee 2016 4.93
88 68 Freddy Garcia 2006 4.83
89 68 Mark Buehrle 2008 4.36
90 68 Edwin Jackson 2013 5.65
91 68 Frank Viola 1989 3.97
92 68 Robb Nen 1999 4.48
93 67 Kerry Wood 2006 5.95
94 67 Francisco Liriano 2013 3.02
95 67 Erik Hanson 1994 4.40
96 67 Bob Veale 1965 3.24
97 67 John Smoltz 1996 3.30
98 67 Jonathan Papelbon 2010 4.57
99 67 Jaime Garcia 2016 4.93
100 67 Sean Doolittle 2016 3.23

Platoon

SORT_FIELD PLATOON AVG OBP SLG TAv
10 vs L (Multi) .204 .258 .295 .195
11 vs R (Multi) .231 .283 .376 .235
18 Split (Multi) -.027 -.024 -.080 -.040
19 LgAvg (Multi) -.020 -.022 -.064 -.025
30 vs L (2016) .197 .239 .346 .192
31 vs R (2016) .232 .286 .376 .233
38 Split (2016) -.036 -.048 -.030 -.042
39 LgAvg (2016) -.022 -.023 -.071 -.028

Definition of multi-year splits

BP Annual Player Comments

YearComment
2018 Want to endear yourself to a tough fan base? Have the type of April Sale did in his inaugural season with the Red Sox. In five April starts composed of 37 2/3 innings, Sale allowed five earned runs, struck out 52 batters and posted a 1.19 ERA. It was the beginning of a dominant campaign from Sale, and an especially absurd first half. Sale became the second Red Sox ever to strike out 300 batters in a season (the first was Pedro, of course), and just the fourth pitcher ever to reach that milestone in his first season with a new team. He posted the second-most PWARP in the majors and second-best DRA among AL starters en route to a second-place AL Cy Young finish. The elephant in the room is that Sale faded down the stretch. His ERA in August and September was north of 4.00, and his first-ever playoff start in the ALDS was a disaster. That shouldn’t diminish what Sale accomplished in the first four months of the season, but it’s fair to wonder if Sale would be best served dialing it back a bit in an effort to hold up for an entire regular season and, the Red Sox hope, a few starts beyond.
2017 In 2015, Sale posted the 11th-best strikeout rate by any starter in history. Last year, that strikeout rate dipped by 2.5 batters per full game, as did his fastball by two mph, and all that really suffered was his FIP and a set of throwbacks. This was intentional: he wanted to work deeper into games and did so, averaging an additional two outs per start. He finished games six times, a career-best, finally resembling a Felix Hernandez-style ace instead of a good and promising left-handed Gumby. He has a team-friendly contract through 2019, which along with Sale's overall greatness is how the White Sox turned him into a big package of Red Sox prospects in December.
2016 If it weren't for Max Scherzer (who got to face pitchers), Sale would have set a record in 2015. He allowed a 75.9-percent contact rate on pitches in the strike zone, a number bested (among starters) only by Scherzer since the dawn of the PITCHf/x Era. That's the kind of pitcher Sale has become: capable of pounding the zone without fear, and still missing bats at a stunning rate. He did give up a bit more power and hard contact than is his custom, but so many batters made no contact at all that it didn't really matter. Oh, and despite the terrifying delivery and the sky-high pitch counts, he made a career-high 31 starts, without incident.
2015 Jameson Taillon, Drew Pomeranz and Matt Harvey were all taken before Sale in the 2010 draft. This isn't the beginning of a "can you believe Sale's been better" comment; it's not unusual for a mid-first rounder to outproduce some guys ahead of him, and Taillon, Pomeranz and Harvey all have plenty of value. But what's fascinating is that all three of those players were considered relatively safe at the time of the draft, and all have broken at some point. Sale, who has a delivery that makes anyone with eyes and an arm cringe, just keeps pitching.

Yes, Sale has missed time with shoulder and elbow injuries during his career, but he has avoided the knife to this point and logged 85 starts over the past three years. Maybe the baseball gods take him away some day, but at this point, saying "I told you so" if he does break will look petty. No one thought Sale would last this long. His dominance is beyond question, and he's as good a candidate as any to win the AL Cy Young in 2015. Savor his starts and relish the fact that, for once, we can be happy at how little we know about pitchers.

2014 Regardless of your baseball rooting interests, if you dont dig watching Sale pitch youre probably immune to joy. A rail-thin lefty scarecrow, Sale uses a flailing corkscrew delivery that he miraculously manages to repeat; hitters cant feel comfortable facing a mid-90s heater or darting slider delivered by a 6-foot-6 version of the Tasmanian Devil. Sale continues to confound those who expect his arm to fall off, reaching the 200-inning plateau for the first time last season and earning a non-inverted W in the All-Star Game. Pitching in the hitter-friendly Cell inflates his traditional numbers and masks some of his true value, but outstanding command of his dominating stuff makes Sale one of baseballs few true aces. At least until he breaks.
2013 Sale's season was the 20th-best, based on pitcher WARP, by a White Sox hurler since 1950, and the seventh-best WARP-per-inning for a White Sox starting pitcher in that span. An early-season MRI gave everyone a scareprompting a relief outing and discussion of a full-time move to the bullpenbut the results came back clean. Predictably for a pitcher increasing his workload to career highs after a season in relief, Sale wore down as the summer wore on, his velocity and effectiveness dipping, allowing batters an OPS over 790 after August 1. If Sale had a textbook delivery, there would be minimal concern about the innings, but he doesn't: Terms like elbow drag, Inverted W, and terrifying are bandied about. It's a tightrope he's walking, because that funky delivery allows his sinker-slider combination to erase left-handed batters, and his changeup has become good enough that righties no longer look forward to facing him, either.
2012 Sale spent his first full season in the bigs working out of the pen, moving his way up the bullpen pecking order and leaving White Sox fans hoping for great things. The lanky lefty has terrific velocity, unleashing mid-90s heat from a low three-quarters slot while mixing in a plus changeup, but it was the in-season development of a new slider grip that helped Sale baffle hitters to the tune of .154/.233/.265 in the second half. The Sox will move him to the rotation this year, and if Sale can continue to hold hitters to a .220 TAvbetter than Jered Weaverhell be a Cy Young candidate. But extrapolating those numbers to a full starter workload is just the sort of voodoo sabermetrics you should learn to ignore during an election year. Nevertheless, Sale has the stuff to front Chicagos rotation for a long time, and his future is now.
2011 Sale was seen in some quarters as the top college arm available last June, so the Sox were understandably delighted that the big power lefty fell to them with the 13th overall pick. With a fastball that sits in the mid-90s and tops out at 98, supplemented with a polished change, he didn't have much to prove in the minors if only tasked with relief work, which put him in the majors less than two months after being drafted. The question now is whether the pen was just a workload-minded vehicle for Sale's fast-track adaptation to the pro game, or if he might get moved back to starting. Questions about Peavy's availability early in the season will define what is immediately possible, but the chance for Sale's total innings count to be managed via pitching in the skippable fifth slot and then limited by a return to the pen upon Peavy's return would be a great way to make sure the lanky lefty gets employed to good effect.

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DateQuestionAnswer
2018-09-10 14:00:00 (link to chat)Justin Mason is mad. He's conducting mock 2019 fantasy baseball drafts this weekend. Which players do you see infiltrating the top 10 picks in 2019 compared to this season's ADP top 10? Jose Ramirez? Aaron Judge? Chris Sale? And who do we see dropping out? Kershaw? Harper? Stanton? (2018 ADP) 1 Mike Trout 2 Jose Altuve 3 Nolan Arenado 4 Trea Turner 5 Clayton Kershaw 6 Bryce Harper 7 Paul Goldschmidt 8 Giancarlo Stanton 9 Charlie Blackmon 10 Mookie Betts
(Tom Pringle from UK)
He is. I think it's the lack of sleep. Ramirez is a no-doubter - forget top 10, he's top 5. Judge's injury probably stops him, although I think he and Sale will be borderline. Kershaw will be out, as will Blackmon, and probablg Goldschmidt. Bryce has been really good for a couple of months now and I think a good last three weeks might just keep him in there. (Darius Austin)
2018-07-30 23:00:00 (link to chat)Wilson, help a brotha out. Forever keeper, 5x5 roto, who wins: Chris Sale for Madison Bumgarner and Blake Snell? Thanks in advance!
(DJosephD from Cranberry )
I love Snell, I don't expect the Rays to push him this year, I'm terrified of Bumgrarner and don't own him anywere. Chris Sale is...King of the Netherlands. He's a cold beer on a hot day. He is Vigo. He's your guy. (Wilson Karaman)
2018-05-04 13:00:00 (link to chat)Aren't the Brewers at least wondering what Hader could do in the rotation? I get it, he's doing well where they have him, but I have a feeling that someday there's going to be a lot of "what could've been" flying around.
(Mr. Fister from Arlington)
I wouldn't be at all surprised if they stretched him out next year. I honestly like this development plan for a guy like him. Chris Sale did the same thing. He's pretty good. (Anthony Rescan)
2017-07-31 23:00:00 (link to chat)I'm in a 7 keeper league with a twist. We have MiLB draft (2/yr) and prospects are "free" keepers for 3 yr. following their promotion. I traded a contender Chris Sale for Xander, Mejia (MiLB controlled) and Bo Bichette (MiLB). I know I gave the best asset, but felt the younger SS keeper and the additional assets will help me in the next 3 yrs. What say you?
(Loria from Milwaukee)
That's not a bad haul, tho for this and many other things in life to make sense, Xander's gonna have to start hitting like Xander again, preferably sooner than later. (Wilson Karaman)
2017-07-19 17:00:00 (link to chat)Yoan Moncada debuts tonight. Is there a small part of you that thinks the Red Sox should have held onto him and Kopech?
(Ryan from St. Louis)
A little bit, sure. Moncada is a marvel of a baseball player - seriously, have you seen his Instagram photos? - and it would've been cool to see him in a Sox uniform. Not as much with Kopech, since throwing 100 with no control is worse than throwing 95 with decent control, and the latter is what half the Red Sox's bullpen currently does. I'll miss Yoan, but every time Chris Sale strikes out 10 over 6 innings, I'll miss him a little bit less. (Brett Cowett)
2017-04-05 23:00:00 (link to chat)What are you hearing about STL SP Jordan Hicks? Have read some very interesting pitch grades from big time sources lately.
(a concerned parent from the internet)
The internet is no place for a concerned parent. Or, let's face it, anybody, really.

Hicks was a dude we chased upside on by tossing into the back of our StL top ten list, and given the muddle of options in that range that's something of an endorsement of the ceiling. Very good fastball, bigtime hook, not much in the way of mechanical consistency or a usable cambio yet. The performance in short-season wasn't great, but lots of raw material there. He'll be a guy to watch in his full-season debut this year.

Also, let me just say that I am thrilled that baseball is back and that Chris Sale is a Red Sox and...just all of it, man. Get 'em, Sandy https://c.o0bg.com/rf/image_1200w/Boston/2011-2020/2016/07/04/BostonGlobe.com/Sports/Images/tai_20160704_redsoxVsRangers_sports_14.jpg?uuid=SVOuVEJFEeavwprHi5KLcw (Wilson Karaman)
2017-02-16 20:00:00 (link to chat)Following up on your answer to Marty. There has yet to be shown that anything can predict or prevent TJS. The coddling of Joba Chamberlain, a big horse, was a fiasco and everybody predicted that 6'6" bean pole, Chris Sale, and his funny motion, would fall apart. I watched Bob Lemon and Allie Reynolds throw in relief between their starts and go on for years. The question of how much exertion went into the deliveries then versus now is legitimate but it really just looks like luck. The arm falls off or it doesn't.
(oldbopper from New Britain, CT)
It's almost as if there's no "good" mechanics, only aesthetically pleasing ones and aesthetically unpleasing ones.

Knock on wood for your favorite pitcher, friends. (Kate Morrison)
2016-12-01 19:00:00 (link to chat)Which star player, either through trade or through free agency, do you foresee being most likely to join a new club during these winter meetings?
(Jay M from Allegan County, MI)
It looks like Andrew McCutchen right now. Chris Sale is the name who I don't necessarily think will move at the Winter Meetings, but who could move quickly if a bidding war suddenly coalesces. (Mike Gianella)
2016-12-08 23:00:00 (link to chat)Thoughts on Hahn's haul from Boston? Obviously Moncada and Kopech were the names, but it looks like the pale hose got some good depth in that trade, no? I hate to impose, but you think this crowd would dig some Alton Ellis?
(smelmoth from Falmouth)
I knew this moment in the chat would come. Gimme a sec while I collect myself...here's some Alton Ellis to tide you over in the mean time...12" style, because that's where I'm at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmXK0iOknGA

So yeah, man, look, let's get one thing straight: I'm *stoked* about this deal as a Red Sox fan. Chris Sale is awesome, and I'll advocate for trading just about anything that's not on a 25-man roster for a bona fide capital-A Ace. On the flip, A+ job, Mr. Hahn. We have lengthy reports on the headliners in our Transaction Analysis linked below, and then yeah, Basabe's a personal favorite. Dude can go GET it in center, good speed that'll age well with his frame and play on the bases, and tantalizing pop. Evaluators are split pretty evenly on the hit tool, but he's shown both an approach and the ability to make adjustments against older competition, so it's a so-far-so-good scenario. And then Diaz is a nice piece of fastball to scratch your lotto ticket with. Here's our whole shebang on the matter: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=30797 (Wilson Karaman)
2016-11-22 20:00:00 (link to chat)No Victor Robles questions yet, surprising. Do you see him being traded this winter for an arm or they think he is the post Harper star.
(Mike from NY)
Maybe for Chris Sale. Maybe. (Jarrett Seidler)
2016-11-11 13:00:00 (link to chat)Since you just did the NL East: can you build a Mike trout or Chris Sale trade from any NL East team, then stick a number on how likely you think it is to actually happen?
(DTH from SF)
Braves are probably the only team that can do it. I don't think the Phillies have enough arms to deal here.

Swanson/Acuna/Newcomb/Allard probably doesn't get you hung up on (at least for Sale). But Braves aren't really in a position to do this, and probably not interested. (Jeffrey Paternostro)
2016-06-07 12:00:00 (link to chat)I picked up Josh Hader a few weeks ago after seeing his gaudy numbers. He's put up similar numbers all the way up the ladder, and this year in AA the numbers are even better. Do his stuff and ceiling seem to match the numbers, or am I looking at a back-end guy, in your opinion? Cause when I watch video of him, it's hard to not see a little bit of Chris Sale, and his numbers back that up
(lipsgardner from Toilet)
The dangerous thing about Chris Sale comps is you usually end up with Alex Wood. (Jeffrey Paternostro)
2016-06-09 13:00:00 (link to chat)The next BIG prospect nobody is talking about?
(Ed from Pitt)
As much as I don't like the delivery, I don't think we're talking about Josh Hader enough. This could be the next Chris Sale. Probably not THAT good, but man, he's really impressive. (Christopher Crawford)
2016-04-21 19:00:00 (link to chat)Hey Mike thanks for the chat! I know its April and its stupid early! But I have Mike Trout in my AL only, and i currently have 35 Offensive category points and 11 pitching. If this trend continues and I feel confident in the rest of my offense what kind of pitching return could I expect from Trout if i flipped him in may or june. it is a keeper league and he would be $47 to keep next year.
(JP from TX)
You should be able to get an elite arm like Chris Sale for Trout. Obviously, there are a lot of variables in keeper (like contracts and keeper salaries). But shoot for the moon. (Mike Gianella)
2016-03-21 13:00:00 (link to chat)What kind of ceiling do you see for Aaron Nola?
(Nate from Indiana)
Nola's an interesting case, because he's got the command and the breaking ball already, so either he's going to miss bats (in which case he could be a No. 2) or not (in which case he'd still probably be a back-end starter). I think he's sort of in Chris Sale territory with the delivery at this point, where it's still scary-looking, but he's got the flexibility and athleticism to pull it off, so if he hasn't gotten hurt yet, I guess we're going to stop being scared. (Michael Baumann)
2016-02-23 13:00:00 (link to chat)My buddy made this trade in fantasy (with a couple draft picks as well): Bryce Harper and Max Scherzer for Chris Sale, Miguel Sano, Kyle Schwarber and Noah Syndergaard Is he crazy?
(Tommy from Chicago)
If he got the quartet, he won that trade in a friggin' runaway. Unless I don't understand fantasy baseball, which is totally possible. (Matthew Trueblood)
2016-03-03 13:00:00 (link to chat)Two catcher dynasty points league: Chris Sale or Kyle Schwarber?
(doog7642 from Blaine, MN)
Schwarber, I always take the hitter over the pitcher. (Christopher Crawford)
2015-10-06 19:30:00 (link to chat)Perhaps a better question: which teams are going to be the trendy sleeper picks going into next season? I assume CLE will rank high on that list, maybe MIN if they can find some pitching.
(justarobert from Santa Clara)
Yeah, apparently we can't read dates.

Sleeper picks! Does Texas count as a sleeper pick, or does getting Yu Darvish back at some point and having Cole Hamels make them a legitimate choice?- KM

I'll take the Twins. They'll get a lot from Buxton. They're on the rise and could make a splash in a weakened division. -KD

The White Sox? Chris Sale, a full year of Rodon, and they have to hit more, right? - JP (AL Wild Card Game Chat)
2015-07-02 15:00:00 (link to chat)How is it possible for Chris Sale to improve each season? Is he an an alien?
(froglegs_jackson from westeros)
He might just be an alien, so take everything with grains of Martian salt. The big difference this year has been the fastball, which he is actually throwing harder than in the past five years and which he is using as a punchout pitch more often than in the past, with spectacular results. Velo + command = improvement (Doug Thorburn)
2015-06-22 13:00:00 (link to chat)If you're Theo Epstein and Jed Hoyer, what are you willing to give up for Chris Sale if he becomes available?
(Ali from Chicago)
My first born. (Jeff Moore)
2015-01-20 19:30:00 (link to chat)Thanks to the internet I no longer know how to value Mookie Betts- I've seen his name being traded for names ranging from Mike Leake to Chris Sale, and everything in between. Can he be the main piece to get Strasburg or does Blake Swihart have to be included in too?
(Shawn from Cubicle)
He's way too good to be dealt for Mike Leake and Chris Sale probably isn't getting moved. I'd imagine Strasburg would require a deal starting with Betts and Swihart, but this offseason has proven once again that I know nothing about trades. As a Sox fan, I hope he isn't dealt now that Stanton is off the table. (Ben Carsley)
2015-01-28 19:00:00 (link to chat)I'm going to Chicago in July. My wife has never been there. So of course The Cubs are out of town. Talk me into seeing The White Sox vs. The Royals.
(RotoLando from Cloud City)
Hey man, see who you want but if you get the chance to watch Chris Sale do it, and buy tickets behind home plate. They're pretty cheap and you get a completely different understanding of his slider. It's terrifying. (Mauricio Rubio)
2015-01-28 19:00:00 (link to chat)Percentage chance you give on Chris Sale pitching all 2015 without injury to his elbow?
(Myrick from charleston)
I don't like this game. 70%. (Mauricio Rubio)
2014-11-18 13:00:00 (link to chat)A new rule has been made that no one who has won MVP or Cy Young before can win it again. Who are your 2015 MVPs and CYs?
(bigguy57 from Philly)
That's an interesting one, bigguy57. Off the top of my head, I'll say Giancarlo Stanton and Jose Abreu win MVP, and Madison Bumgarner and Chris Sale get the Cy Young. (Daniel Rathman)
2014-10-17 12:00:00 (link to chat)What do you think of Christian Colon? He had a nice 2014 and seems like a solid 2b. What do you see his future as and will he get a chance to start for the Royals? Want to know more about him. Thx.
(Cristobal Colon from Pasadena, CA)
A certain segment of Royals fans will always link Colon with Chris Sale, which is a fair standard for the organization, but somewhat unfair for Colon. He impressed team officials by embracing his utility role this season. When the club traded Danny Valencia in July, they said the imperative was getting Colon to the majors. It would make some sense for Colon to get 250-300 at-bats next season as a backup for Omar Infante and a right-handed complement to Mike Moustakas at third base.

But, who knows. (Andy McCullough)
2014-09-25 13:00:00 (link to chat)Hi Craig. Dynasty league question. Want your opinion on a trade. Edwin Encarnacion for Chris Sale and Jose Altuve. Fair trade? Who comes out on top? Who has to add?
(Kris from NY)
Give me the Sale/Altuve side. (Craig Goldstein)
2014-09-03 14:00:00 (link to chat)I was very excited to see the Sox land Rodon. When is he likely to debut? I know it's foolish to ask if he can be Chris Sale good, but he's gonna miss bats, right?
(RJ from Chicago)
Chris Sale is one of the 5 best pitchers in the MLB, so it's hard to compare anyone to him. He's also not exactly a normal profile. Rodon still has a plus, plus slider, and his ultimate upside is a #2 starter. (Jordan Gorosh)
2014-08-06 16:30:00 (link to chat)Is it fair to say Adam Dunn could establish himself as the White Sox frontline ace in the next 2-3 years?
(Me from Somewhere)
He is almost definitely more durable than Chris Sale, so bring it on. At least put him in the bullpen where he can really air it out and showcase his premier stuff. (Cespedes Family BBQ)
2014-08-08 13:00:00 (link to chat)Dynasty league, which side you got? Chris Sale + Kris Bryant + Marcell Ozuna or Gregory Polanco + Anthony Rendon + Christian Yelich
(John Johnson from Wisconsin)
Sale/Bryant/Ozuna on the strength of the first two. (Craig Goldstein)
2014-08-08 13:00:00 (link to chat)I'm in a 12 team keeper league. each team gets to keep 7 players for next season. who do you think i should keep from this list: George Springer, Bryce Harper, Chris Sale, Justin Upton, Byron Buxton, Addison Russell, Taijuan Walker, Lucas Giolito, Francisco Lindor, Dylan Bundy, Kevin Gausmann, Carlos Correa, Miguel Sano, Zach Wheeler. Thanks.
(childgrambino from Richmond, VA)
Harper, Sale, Upton, Walker, Gausman, Wheeler and Springer. 12 team leagues, you keep guys who are contributing. Having this many prospects in this shallow a league is bananas. Drop a bunch. (Craig Goldstein)
2014-08-08 13:00:00 (link to chat)20 team dynasty league, here are my pitchers: Chris Sale, Sonny Gray, Homey Bailey, Jake Arietta, Jason deGrom, and Mike Leake, with Kimbrel, Doolittle, for saves and a few guys for holds. In a 20 team league, would that be a solid staff? And also, I kinda want to upgrade and have the offensive pieces to do so. If I paired one of those guys with a bat to upgrade, who would you try to sell? Thanks!
(treynay3 from Gatlinburg)
Yeah that's a solid staff though it gets shaky on the back end. I'd move a Bailey/Leake or deGrom for an upgrade. (Craig Goldstein)
2014-07-25 14:00:00 (link to chat)What's the deal with Tyler Danish? Are there any comps out there for successful starters with those kind of mechanics?
(Blinky from Maze)
Danish has incredibly short arm action that has a lot of whip to it, along with a very low arm slot. He also has a lot of rock n' roll during the stride phase of his delivery. It is not a totally unique delivery, in the sense that I have seen other amateurs and young pros with similar traits, but he would definitely stand out on a MLB mound - or he might just blend in with a Chicago staff that is led by Chris Sale. (Doug Thorburn)
2014-07-24 19:00:00 (link to chat)Is Justin Upton, Lance Lynn, and Derek Holland a reasonable price for Chris Sale, Joey Gallo, Kenley Jansen, and a top 5-10 prospect pick (assume 2014 draftees)?
(AJ from Phoenix)
I value Sale over Upton by enough to want more in this deal if I'm the Sale side. (Mauricio Rubio)
2014-06-26 14:00:00 (link to chat)Team is bombing...looking to upgrade my keepers in a 5x5 with 5 keepers. Currently have Bogaerts, Tulo, McCutchen, Cargo as definites; can keep either of hosmer/fielder/altuve. Should I upgrade and package for Chris Sale, or a better hitter?
(cxtorpey from Baltimore)
Sorry to hear you've had a tough year. My TDGX team, run by our benevolent boss Bret, is going through the same deal. If you can acquire Sale, I'm all about that. He's one of the rare arms that can anchor a dynasty pitching staff. (J.P. Breen)
2014-05-02 14:00:00 (link to chat)Obvious question, did Chris Sale's mechanics contribute to his injury/strain?
(John from CT)
Impossible to know for sure, though it would be easy to say "yes" based on the premise that his motion puts additional stress on the joints. But given the multitude of factors that contribute to injury, I refuse to pin his injury on his delivery alone. It's ugly, and it definitely poses some risk factors, but it's worth noting that Sale finishes with excellent mechanics at release point - it's the vulture arm action and the imbalance during his stride phase that frightens the children. (Doug Thorburn)
2014-04-29 13:00:00 (link to chat)Given what you've seen to date, and considering it's still only April, who do you think will be in the Series?
(John from CT)
I looked up the staff preseason predictions to see who I had winning the World Series. I chose the Nationals. I also had the Rays and Diamondbacks making the playoffs, and Clayton Kershaw, Mat Latos, and Chris Sale finishing in the top-six of Cy Young voting. So that's a good way to start the chat.

I'll stick with the Nationals for now. In the AL, I'll guess Detroit. (R.J. Anderson)
2014-04-29 13:00:00 (link to chat)What's the insiders buzz regarding Chris Sale? His manager says he thinks he may be back soon and without a minor league tune up. Your take?
(John from CT)
They would know better than me, my man. (R.J. Anderson)
2014-04-08 14:00:00 (link to chat)Is Chris Sale primed for a CY Young caliber season or do you see his funky delivery blowing out his elbow before he gets the chance?
(Wingman from TX)
His delivery is full of risk factors, but injury prediction is a dangerous game given the plethora of variables and the impossibility of knowing about elements such as joint integrity, tendon strength, genetics, conditioning, etc. Performance-wise he is already at or near CY caliber, and though his team's offense might limit the W's, I think that Sale is one of the top pitchers in the AL as long as he is on the mound.

On the jukebox: The Clash, "Charlie Don't Surf" (Doug Thorburn)
2014-03-21 14:00:00 (link to chat)In keeper league would you trade Sano for Chris Sale?
(Jon from LA)
Absolutely. Sano could be a star, but you're getting a guy that is an ace right now. You could just flip Sale for more. (Ronit Shah)
2014-02-28 14:00:00 (link to chat)Doug, is there anything to be done with Chris Sale besides a nightly prayer? Those were some awfully high pitch counts during a season that didn't matter last year.
(Daniel Schoenfeld from Evanston, IL)
There are definitely concerns with his vulture-like arm action and lanky frame, but he is actually very efficient with his delivery from foot strike through release point. High pitch counts do add to the levels of worry, but I think that the baseball public has become hyper-sensitive to pitch counts, especially given the reality that different pitchers can withstand very different thresholds. The perception of 120 pitches creates knee-jerk reactions of panic, but this is not necessarily the case. Sale exceeded 120 pitches three times last year, topping out at 124, and I don't think that's dangerous in and of itself.

On the jukebox: Eminem, "Stan" (Doug Thorburn)
2014-01-29 19:00:00 (link to chat)Welcome Ben, I'll start you off with a curveball: Let's say every draft eligible prospect from 2010 to 2014 was eligible for this year's draft. Just based on pre-draft scouting reports and without the benefit of hindsight, how would the first 10 picks of the draft unfold?
(baseballjunkie from cali, where it's already Spring)
This is an amazingly difficult question to answer, and also quite fun. It's probably better suited for an article than for a fantasy chat answer, but since I was able to access this question ahead of time, here's what I came up with after about 30 min of research. I'll note that since I'm not familiar enough with 2014 prospects yet, I've restricted your search to 2010-2013 draftees. I'll go with:

1. Bryce Harper 2. Manny Machado 3. Gerrit Cole 4. Dylan Bundy 5. Anthony Rendon 6. Jameson Taillon 7. Bubba Starling
8. Byron Buxton 9. Carlos Correa 10. Archie Bradley

Toughest omissions for me were Francisco Lindor, Trevor Bauer, Kevin Gausman, Kris Bryant and Mark Appel. If Luc Giolito had been healthy for his senior year, he'd probably have made it on this list. Obviously that's not how we'd rank them now, and it's funny that guys like Chris Sale, Jose Fernandez, Matt Harvey and Javier Baez are left in the dust. Bubba Starling sticks out like a sore thumb, and Buxton was underrated. This exercise also reinforces how loaded the 2011 draft was. Last year's pales in comparison. (Ben Carsley)
2014-01-02 13:00:00 (link to chat)Do you know anyone who thinks Chris Sale can prevent his arm from flying off his shoulder in the future? And does the general injury sqeaumishness related to his delivery present an exploitable opportunity for owners to draft/acquire through trade at a lower price?
(TommyC from Rosemont)
I think it can be exploitable. The arm action worries me, though at some point one acknowledges that it's working for now. I do think injury gets him at some point, but that can be said for most any pitcher. (Craig Goldstein)
2013-11-25 13:00:00 (link to chat)If you were Rick Hahn would you trade Chris Sale?
(Justin from Chicago, IL)
It's easy for me to say, but I don't see the talent to compete at the major league level, and I'd rather move Sale a few years too early than a few years too late. I'd move him for near major league ready talent with impact potential. (Jason Parks)
2013-11-26 13:00:00 (link to chat)Where does Chris Sale rank if you are measuring trade value of SP? Would you still be concerned about his motion even after two full seasons? Will that concern ever disappear?
(petelunchbox from Handsome City)
I'd say he has plenty of value, given his age, success and the friendly nature of his contract. I am less concerned about his delivery than most people it seems, and, no, I don't ever expect to stop hearing this question. (Harry Pavlidis)
2013-09-11 13:00:00 (link to chat)Chris Sale's slider an 80 pitch?
(djs711 from Chicago)
70-grade at the very least, but there's an argument for 80. (Jason Cole)
2013-07-08 14:00:00 (link to chat)At what point do people admit they were wrong about Chris Sale and that his mechanics, while not ideal, work for him?
(Max from Westeros)
It's not so much that "people were wrong" about Sale's mechanics, as it is possible that both A) he is inefficient and B) it works for him. Beyond the scary-looking stuff with his limbs, Sale also has poor balance and a misdirected stride, which both create barriers to repetition. I am very impressed that he has been able to harness that delivery and overcome the obstacles, as it speaks very well to his development skills and learning curve, but he is still a risky proposition going forward (from both an injury standpoint and performance). Many pitchers improve these elements as they age, and I would like to think that Sale will continue to improve while keeping some of his signature style.

On the jukebox: Danzig, "Twist of Cain" (Doug Thorburn)
2013-05-16 13:00:00 (link to chat)Have your thoughts on Chris Sale changed? Do you think he can stay healthy? True #1 potential?
(Justin from Chicago, IL)
My thoughts haven't actually changed. I just admitted I was wrong. I still question his long-term durability based on his physical and mechanical profiles. I'll probably end up being wrong again. (Jason Parks)
2013-05-07 13:00:00 (link to chat)In a dynasty league in which I'm competing, but I'm weak at SP, I can trade 2 prospect picks, Gerrit Cole, & Brian McCann for Chris Sale and Alex Cobb. I'm leaning no because I lurve me some Cole. Still, I have Carlos Santana, and with Josh Johnson, Halladay, & Haren all disappointing, I could use the help (Rest of staff is Medlen, Moore, Gallardo, Wainwright, and CC). Should I pull the trigger?
(Jim Clancy from Exhibition Stadium)
I love Cole, too, but if you're in contention to win this year, you do the deal. Prospect love kills folks in these leagues bc they get married to endless cycle of the future and then they want to compete now and have future assets. Just focus on now. I'd do the deal. (Paul Sporer)
2013-03-15 13:00:00 (link to chat)Pedro Strop's fastball had great armside movement last night. Who has the best tail on their fastball in the majors?
(Matt from Chicago)
I think Chris Sale. Fernando Rodney for the relievers. Check out our leader board tool, use the HMOV sort (keep in mind Tampa's PFX system is a little off so their lefties seem to get extra tail) http://www.baseballprospectus.com/pitchfx/leaderboards/ (Harry Pavlidis)
2013-03-12 13:00:00 (link to chat)Are you concerned about Chris Sale's mechanics?
(Mike from Rhode Island)
Shaggy from Scooby Doo has got some very negative indicators. Doug Thorburn does a great job discussing the mechanics in the SP Guide. (Paul Sporer)
2013-02-19 13:00:00 (link to chat)Hi Ben, Love the podcast! Was offered Kemp for my Chris Sale in a weekly h2h points league. Accept? Thanks, Brian
(brianincbus from Cape Coral, FL)
Yes. Sale scares me even a little more than most pitchers, which is already a lot. Kemp averaged 159 games in the four seasons before 2012, so I'm not too down on his durability yet. (Ben Lindbergh)
2013-03-01 13:00:00 (link to chat)How many starts until Chris Sale explodes (in a bad way)?
(Max from LA)
It's impossible to tell. His delivery is full of injury red flags, but there are player-specific variables when it comes to conditioning and genetics that ultimately play a bigger role than is often acknowledged. Perhaps he has the structural stability to support his motion for years, though I would hedge my bets. But then again, I never thought that Jake Peavy's elbow would survive as long as it did, but his structural integrity in the joint allowed him to pitch for years, and when his arm did give out it was actually his shoulder that broke down (indicating a weakness relative to the elbow).

On the jukebox: Anthrax, "Only" (Doug Thorburn)
2013-03-01 13:00:00 (link to chat)Which players mechanics worry you the most?
(Henry from bar)
The easy answer is Chris Sale, and it's a legitimate concern. I also worry about Tyler Skaggs, Wily Peralta, and Mike Fiers for various reasons. (Doug Thorburn)
2013-02-14 13:00:00 (link to chat)How do you see my transition into the rotation going?
(Aroldis Chapman from Warming Up)
Not as well as most. I want it to go brilliantly like Chris Sale's, but I keep coming back to a 4.00 ERA and a ton of Ks. (Paul Sporer)
2012-12-28 13:00:00 (link to chat)As a native chicagoan, It's almost embarassing what the White Sox have done(or not done) this offseason. Spent waaaay too much on a player coming off a surprising all-around year, but needs a platoon-mate to be successful and has little-to-no-power in his bat. Is this the dreaded "R-word"(rebuilding) that Kenny Williams hinted about but always managed to avoid?
(jlarsen from chicago)
Williams could try to rebuild, but I'm not sure how. Off the top of my head, he's got Dayan Viciedo and Chris Sale as somewhat established players who theoretically haven't reached their prime. I'm not sure those are foundational guys, but they aren't bad. Then again, I don't ever dismiss Williams, who has enjoyed a great deal of success by doing things that baffle me. Someone should write a book and/or movie about him. (Geoff Young)
2012-11-09 14:00:00 (link to chat)Talk about Chris Sale's mechanics. Any long-term concerns?
(nickkappel from Iowa)
Sale has frightening mechanics, due to a potentially lethal combination of extreme hyperabduction of the shoulders, extreme scapular load, and the tendency to drag the elbow as he gets into maximum external rotation of the throwing arm. Perhaps he has the functional strength to withstand the risk factors, and I can't speak to his conditioning work, but his mechanical profile is full of injury red flags. The lack of balance is also a concern, again relating to his ability to repeat the delivery, but thus far he has overcome all of the barriers to find a consistent release point, which does speak well to his underlying strength indicators. He might be ok in the short term, but I would downgrade his status in a fantasy keeper league due to the risks inherent in his motion.

On the jukebox: AFI, "The Leaving Song, Part 2" (Doug Thorburn)
2012-08-17 13:00:00 (link to chat)Is Chris Sale having the year Matt Moore was supposed to have?
(Omar Little from Baltimore)
Chris Sale is having a year that nobody is *supposed* to have. You just put enough good players in a room together and wait for one to do something incredible. Sale might be the sexiest expected starter in the AL right now. (Sam Miller)
2012-06-29 13:00:00 (link to chat)Is Chris Sale this insanely good or will this season be the outlier of his career?
(Paul from DC)
Oh, and on the 4th of July beer question, no idea what my plans are yet but a good guess is something from the Six Point line (Sweet Action or Crisp).

As for Chris Sale, I'll go with outlier, as I have a hard time imagining he can maintain a .257 BABIP forever, and I don't think he'll be striking out more than a batter per inning forever as well. Still, he's having a hell of a year and I hope he can remain healthy. (Jay Jaffe)
2012-05-25 14:00:00 (link to chat)Do you think Chris Sale's condor-like mechanics will lead to a major elbow injury before the season is over? And is keeping him in the rotation better, from an injury-prevention perspective, than having him in the bullpen?
(Nick from Michigan)
There is no telling when a pitcher's body might succumb to the kinetic toll, but Sale's delivery is certainly high-risk and his frame suggests fragility. The rotation vs. bullpen question is a good one, because the debate goes deeper than innings-counts. That said, I think that the Sox do have more flexibility with his usage patterns out of the bullpen as opposed to falling slave to the 5-day routine of starting (Doug Thorburn)
2012-05-17 13:00:00 (link to chat)Keeper League...looking to move LaHair for some SP. Who would be some of your favorite mid-level starters to target right now? Points league with emphasis on ERA/quality starts. Always looking for upside but need current yr production as well.
(David from San Diego)
Maybe try Brandon Morrow, Anibal Sanchez, Jordan Zimmermann, Jake Arrieta, and Chris Sale. (Derek Carty)
2012-05-09 13:00:00 (link to chat)Chris Sale, who's been very effective as a starter, is supposedly heading back to the pen because of a sore elbow. Over reaction by the White Sox or simple prudence?
(Paul from DC)
Prudence, but disappointing nonetheless. Some guys can handle every aspect of starting but staying healthy. Maybe Sale is one of them--the Sox would know far better than I. I hope he gets another crack at the rotation at some point, since he clearly has the stuff to succeed there, but "better safe than sorry" isn't a bad rule of thumb when it comes to pitching prospects and first-round picks. (Ben Lindbergh)
2012-04-04 13:00:00 (link to chat)Fantasy Question: In a dynasty league I can send Chris Sale, Banuelos and Bubba Starling, and cash for BJ Upton and two 1st round draft picks (which are like gold in this league). I rebuilt my team and have an OF of Trout-Gary Brown- Harper (we use LF, CF, RF), and my pitching is stacked to the point where Sale and ManBan wouldn't make my 5-man rotation. Is the trade worth it, or is Starling > my expectations suggest?
(Don H. from Oak Park)
Fantasy Question: Todd Bridges or Gary Coleman? I have a keeper league and I can only protect one of them. (Jason Parks)
2012-04-04 13:00:00 (link to chat)You are an animal! Do you think Chris Sale can become a successful starting pitcher? If so, what is his upside?
(Dennis from LA)
I prefer him in the 'pen because of his delivery and his arsenal. He has tremendous upside because he has very good stuff, but as I said, I don't see it staying consistent in a rotation over the course of a full-season. (Jason Parks)
2012-02-14 13:00:00 (link to chat)Daniel Bard, Neftali Feliz, and Chris Sale are all moving from the 'pen to the rotation this season. Optimistic on the triumvirate, or should I have concerns (own them all in a keeper)?
(Mitch from cubicle 3s)
I'm actually fairly high on all three, especially if you have them cheap in a keeper league. They all have excellent numbers in relief (excepting Feliz's 2011) and could easily withstand the traditional 17% drop (as per Tom Tango's rule of thumb) of moving to the rotation. I also think each is well-equipped enough to make such a transition, each with at least three pitches to show batters. None should be counted on for high inning totals, but in terms of performance, I think they'll do about as well as you'd expect. (Derek Carty)


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