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Birth Date	4-22-1988
Height	5' 11"
Weight	166 lbs

Age	36 years, 0 months, 3 days
Bats	L
Throws	R

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MLB Statistics

YEAR	TEAM	AGE	G	PA	H	2B	3B	HR	BB	SO	HBP	SB	CS	AVG	OBP	SLG	DRC+	DRAA	BRR	FRAA	BWARP
2011	LAN	23	56	233	68	9	2	0	7	27	0	24	7	.304	.325	.362	83	-4.3	3.0	-2.1	0.6
2012	LAN	24	87	330	69	9	2	1	20	62	3	32	10	.228	.280	.281	61	-14.8	1.6	-5.0	-0.5
2013	LAN	25	38	106	22	1	1	1	10	21	1	10	2	.234	.314	.298	73	-3.0	1.4	1.4	0.4
2014	LAN	26	148	650	176	24	12	2	31	107	4	64	19	.289	.326	.378	86	-9.4	4.0	-3.4	0.8
2015	MIA	27	145	653	205	24	8	4	25	91	2	58	20	.333	.359	.418	96	-0.6	4.1	-0.3	2.1
2016	MIA	28	79	345	87	7	6	1	18	55	0	30	7	.268	.305	.335	72	-10.7	3.4	-6.3	-0.4
2017	MIA	29	158	695	201	20	9	2	25	93	10	60	16	.308	.341	.375	87	-9.4	8.4	-0.6	1.8
2018	SEA	30	141	588	149	17	8	4	9	80	9	30	12	.268	.288	.349	76	-15.4	4.2	2.8	0.9
2019	SEA	31	117	421	108	12	6	3	18	61	1	22	5	.275	.304	.359	78	-10.1	2.2	0.7	0.5
Career			969	4021	1085	123	54	18	163	597	30	330	98	.288	.320	.363	82	-77.6	32.5	-12.9	6.2

Statistics for All Levels

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YEAR	Team	Lg	LG	G	PA	oppAVG	oppOBP	oppSLG	BABIP	BPF	BRAA	repLVL	POS_ADJ	DRC+	DRC+ SD	FRAA	BRR	DRAA	BWARP
2008	OGD	Rk	PIO	60	274	.265	.337	.421	.365	107	4.8	9.3	4.3	109	0	-5.3	3.3	-2.5	0.9
2009	GRL	A	MDW	131	601	.258	.329	.383	.352	108	8	17.7	7.6	115	0	-7.8	6.6	10.9	3.6
2010	CHT	AA	SOU	133	614	.264	.337	.394	.321	100	-0.9	17.6	8.1	93	0	-7.2	3.9	-1.6	2.1
2011	LAN	MLB	NL	56	233	.251	.314	.391	.345	92	-1	6.3	2.9	83	11	-2.1	3.0	-4.3	0.6
2011	RCU	A+	CAL	3	12	.289	.338	.435	.300	110	-0.2	0.4	0.2	92	0	0.4	0.7	-0.1	0.2
2011	ABQ	AAA	PCL	70	313	.278	.347	.431	.382	121	-2.4	9.7	4.5	90	0	5.8	3.3	-2.9	2.0
2012	LAN	MLB	NL	87	330	.255	.317	.407	.281	94	-12.5	9.0	4.1	61	10	-5.0	1.6	-14.8	-0.5
2012	ABQ	AAA	PCL	8	32	.277	.337	.435	.296	116	-2.2	1.0	0.4	74	0	-1.3	0.6	-0.9	0.0
2012	LIC	Wnt	DWL	29	123	.000	.000	.000	.333			0.0		0	0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0
2013	LAN	MLB	NL	38	106	.261	.317	.399	.292	96	-2.5	2.8	1.2	73	10	1.4	1.4	-3.0	0.4
2013	ABQ	AAA	PCL	92	433	.262	.335	.402	.364	108	8.1	12.4	4.4	104	0	10.1	7.2	-2.1	3.3
2014	LAN	MLB	NL	148	650	.255	.316	.392	.346	98	3.1	16.8	-0.8	86	8	-3.4	4.0	-9.4	0.8
2015	MIA	MLB	NL	145	653	.258	.316	.409	.383	89	22.3	17.6	-0.8	96	6	-0.3	4.1	-0.6	2.1
2015	JUP	A+	FSL	1	4	.216	.315	.290	.333	82	-0.3	0.1	0	80	0	-0.2	0.0	-0.2	0.0
2016	MIA	MLB	NL	79	345	.250	.313	.403	.319	88	-5.4	9.8	-0.4	72	8	-6.3	3.4	-10.7	-0.4
2016	NWO	AAA	PCL	9	36	.249	.307	.393	.300	85	-0.9	1.0	0	71	0	-2.1	0.4	-1.6	-0.2
2017	MIA	MLB	NL	158	695	.256	.325	.425	.354	94	-1.5	20.3	-0.8	87	5	-0.6	8.4	-9.4	1.8
2018	SEA	MLB	AL	141	588	.246	.313	.408	.304	98	-16.4	16.5	0.4	76	7	2.8	4.2	-15.4	0.9
2019	SEA	MLB	AL	117	421	.253	.324	.438	.313	97	-11.1	12.7	-0.5	78	7	0.7	2.2	-10.1	0.5
2019	TAC	AAA	PCL	3	14	.284	.357	.454	.250	88	-1.1	0.5	-0.1	62	0	-0.1	-0.4	-0.7	-0.1

Statistics For All Levels

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Year	Team	lvl	LG	PA	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	TB	RBI	BB	SO	SB	CS	AVG	OBP	SLG	ISO	SF	SH
2008	OGD	Rk	PIO	274	251	45	83	13	3	2	108	27	16	29	18	5	.331	.373	.430	.100	2	2
2009	GRL	A	MDW	601	538	96	162	17	12	3	212	35	43	90	73	25	.301	.360	.394	.093	7	7
2010	CHT	AA	SOU	614	555	86	154	17	10	2	197	39	40	89	53	20	.277	.329	.355	.077	9	9
2011	LAN	MLB	NL	233	224	34	68	9	2	0	81	11	7	27	24	7	.304	.325	.362	.058	0	2
2011	RCU	A+	CAL	12	11	4	3	0	0	0	3	0	1	1	2	1	.273	.333	.273	.000	0	0
2011	ABQ	AAA	PCL	313	288	51	96	10	6	0	118	24	18	40	30	4	.333	.373	.410	.076	3	2
2012	LIC	Wnt	DWL	123	108	16	29	3	6	0	44	12	11	22	9	6	.269	.350	.407	.139	1	0
2012	LAN	MLB	NL	330	303	38	69	9	2	1	85	17	20	62	32	10	.228	.280	.281	.053	2	2
2012	ABQ	AAA	PCL	32	30	3	8	0	1	0	10	1	2	3	2	1	.267	.313	.333	.067	0	0
2013	LAN	MLB	NL	106	94	9	22	1	1	1	28	6	10	21	10	2	.234	.314	.298	.064	0	1
2013	ABQ	AAA	PCL	433	374	65	111	17	9	0	146	33	51	70	49	11	.297	.385	.390	.094	1	4
2014	LAN	MLB	NL	650	609	92	176	24	12	2	230	34	31	107	64	19	.289	.326	.378	.089	3
2015	JUP	A+	FSL	4	4	0	1	0	0	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	.250	.250	.250	.000	0	0
2015	MIA	MLB	NL	653	615	88	205	24	8	4	257	46	25	91	58	20	.333	.359	.418	.085	5	6
2016	NWO	AAA	PCL	36	35	7	9	1	1	0	12	2	1	5	3	0	.257	.278	.343	.086	0	0
2016	MIA	MLB	NL	345	325	47	87	7	6	1	109	14	18	55	30	7	.268	.305	.335	.068	1	1
2017	MIA	MLB	NL	695	653	114	201	20	9	2	245	33	25	93	60	16	.308	.341	.375	.067	4	2
2018	SEA	MLB	AL	588	556	62	149	17	8	4	194	36	9	80	30	12	.268	.288	.349	.081	5	9
2019	TAC	AAA	PCL	14	14	0	3	0	0	0	3	0	0	2	0	1	.214	.214	.214	.000	0	0
2019	SEA	MLB	AL	421	393	36	108	12	6	3	141	34	18	61	22	5	.275	.304	.359	.084	6	3

Plate Discipline

YEAR	Pits	Zone%	Swing%	Contact%	Z-Swing%	O-Swing%	Z-Contact%	O-Contact%	SwStr%	CSAA
2011	794	0.5327	0.4836	0.8542	0.5650	0.3908	0.8661	0.8345	0.1458	0.0032
2012	1199	0.5213	0.4412	0.8374	0.5232	0.3519	0.8991	0.7376	0.1626	0.0024
2013	379	0.5092	0.4063	0.8182	0.5078	0.3011	0.8367	0.7857	0.1818	0.0040
2014	2432	0.5070	0.4268	0.8516	0.5223	0.3286	0.9068	0.7614	0.1484	0.0070
2015	2230	0.4991	0.4870	0.8517	0.5948	0.3796	0.9184	0.7476	0.1483	0.0011
2016	1269	0.4949	0.4752	0.8259	0.5860	0.3666	0.9049	0.7021	0.1741	0.0000
2017	2381	0.5031	0.5111	0.8480	0.6260	0.3948	0.9000	0.7645	0.1520	0.0000
2018	1989	0.4922	0.5264	0.8405	0.6507	0.4059	0.9121	0.7293	0.1595	0.0000
2019	1413	0.5110	0.5386	0.8384	0.6842	0.3864	0.8826	0.7566	0.1616	0.0000
Career	14086	0.5050	0.4841	0.8438	0.5935	0.3727	0.9008	0.7521	0.1562	0.0019

Injury History — No longer being updated

Last Update: 12/31/2014 23:59 ET

Date On	Date Off	Transaction	Days	Games	Side	Body Part	Injury	Severity	Surgery Date	Reaggravation
2014-09-28	-	DTD	-	-	Right	Hip	Soreness		-
2014-06-08	2014-06-10	DTD	2	2	Right	Hip	Soreness		-
2013-03-19	2013-03-22	Camp	3	0	Left	Ankle	Sprain		-	-
2012-07-05	2012-09-10	60-DL	67	58	Right	Thumb	Surgery	Dislocation & Torn UCL From Sliding	2012-07-06	-
2012-07-02	2012-07-03	DTD	1	1	Left	Lower Leg	Cramp		-	-
2011-08-10	2011-09-01	15-DL	22	20	Right	Shoulder	Contusion		-	-
2011-08-07	2011-08-08	DTD	1	1	Right	Shoulder	Soreness		-	-

Compensation

Year	Team	Salary
2022	WAS	$800,000
2021	CIN	$
2020	SEA	$13,744,213
2019	SEA	$13,300,000
2018	SEA	$10,800,000
2017	MIA	$7,800,000
2016	MIA	$3,300,000
2015	LAN, MIA	$2,500,000
2014	LAN	$515,000
2013	LAN	$
2012	LAN	$485,000

Years	Description	Salary
9 yr	Previous	$53,244,213
9 yr	Total	$53,244,213

Service Time	Agent	Contract Status
8 y 154 d	Rep 1	1 year/$800,000 (2022)

Details

1 year (2022). Signed by Washington as a free agent 12/11/21 (minor-league contract). Salary of $800,000 in majors. Contract selected by Washington 4/7/22. DFA by Washington 6/14/22. Released 6/19/22.
1 year (2021). Signed by Cincinnati as a free agent 2/7/21 (minor-league contract). Salary of $1M in majors. Released by Cincinnati 3/26/21. Signed by Milwaukee as a free agent 4/8/21 (minor-league contract). Released by Milwaukee 5/22/21. Signed by Chicago Cubs as a free agent 5/29/21 (minor-league contract). Released by Chicago Cubs 7/6/21 (Strange-Gordon exercised right to opt out of contract). Signed by Pittsburgh as a free agent 7/7/21 (minor-league contract).
5 years/$50M (2016-20), plus 2021 club option. Signed extension with Miami 1/14/16 (avoided arbitration). $1.5M signing bonus. 16:$3M, 17:$7.5M, 18:$10.5M, 19:$13M, 20:$13.5M, 21:$14M club option ($1M buyout). 2021 option guaranteed with 600 plate appearances in 2020 or 1,200 PA in 2019-20. Placed on restricted list 4/29/16 (80-game suspension for failed PED test). Acquired by Seattle in trade from Miami 12/7/17.
1 year/$2.5M (2015). Signed by Miami 1/16/15 (avoided arbitration). Salary paid by LA Dodgers under terms of 12/10/14 trade.
1 year/$515,000 (2014). Re-signed by LA Dodgers 3/2/14. Acquired by Miami in trade from LA Dodgers 12/10/14 (Dodgers to pay 2015 salary).
1 year/$501,000 (2013). Re-signed by LA Dodgers 3/13.
1 year/$485,000 (2012). Re-signed by LA Dodgers 3/12.
1 year (2011). Contract purchased by LA Dodgers 6/6/11.
Drafted by LA Dodgers 2008 (4-127) (Seminole CC, Fla.).

2019 Preseason Forecast

Last Update: 1/27/2017 12:35 ET

PCT	PA	H	2B	BB	SO	SB	CS	AVG	OBP	SLG	DRC+	VORP	FRAA
90^o	40	11	2	2	6	3	1	.297	.350	.351	99	2.2	2B 0
80^o	27	7	1	1	4	2	1	.280	.308	.320	94	1.2	2B 0
70^o	18	5	1	1	3	1	0	.312	.353	.375	90	0.7	2B 0
60^o	10	2	0	0	1	1	0	.222	.222	.222	87	0.3	2B 0
50^o	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	.000	.000	.000	84	0.1	2B 0
Weighted Mean	3	1	0	0	0	0	0	.333	.333	.333	84	0.1	2B 0

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Date	Question	Answer
2020-01-31 13:00:00 (link to chat)	I read that the Mariners' manager basically announced Shed Long as the starting second basemen. He was a slightly above average hitter in his first go in majors last year, which is impressive. What do you think of him for 2020 and long term in dynasty? Thanks. (bozodidthedub from Providence)	The rebuilding Mariners almost certainly are moving away from Dee Gordon, but he is not out-the-door yet and he is on the books for $14 mil the next two years. I do expect Long to see plenty of playing time in 2020, and, like Dobnak, I also drafted Long in P365XDL at 456 overall. I think he can be average-ish across-the-board offensively, with a touch less hit/power and a touch more speed. Something like .260/15/10 is very possible as soon as 2020. Long-term, the hope is average everything and .270/20/10 type seasons, maybe even a few more steals. Long is often overlooked in dynasty leagues at the moment, and you can acquire him for peanuts. (Jesse Roche)
2019-09-23 20:00:00 (link to chat)	Who is a Cape prospect who you think underrated? Overrated? (Katy Dunn's Farts from Bike Shop)	Underrated: OF Braiden Ward, 80 speed and complete leadoff potential as a center fielder at best, and left fielder at worst. Reminds me of Dee Gordon in terms of approach and obviously on the basepaths. LHP Jared Shuster, best lefty changeup on Cape - elite tunneling and a really good gameplan against both sides of the plate. Overrated: I may get slack for this, but C Austin Wells and LHP Jake Eder. I really liked him, but think both 2B Nick Gonales and OF Daniel Cabrera have a bit more potential. Wells has some holes in his swing - it could get a bit long and receiving skills were very inconsistent. I think Wells will be very solid, but not the 7x All-Star he's projected to be. Eder has good stuff, but some serious command issues with his breaking ball and a bit inconsistent to the plate. (Tyler Oringer)
2019-07-19 12:00:00 (link to chat)	Is there a starting position for Dee Gordon on any contending team (via trade)? (Craig from Chicago)	He feels extremely like the veteran bench piece the Yankees or Cubs add at the deadline. That usually doesn't get you a ton back, especially given what is left on the deal (although the Mariners have certainly been willing to eat money on these). (Jeffrey Paternostro)
2019-02-04 16:00:00 (link to chat)	I'm in a 12-team standard mixed H2H league that keeps five players every year. My top two are stud hitters, but after that it's a fog of guys I'm not super big on as top-60 values: Greinke, Paxton, Clevenger, Donaldson, Eloy, Chapman, Eduardo Rodriguez, Aaron Hicks, Dee Gordon. I'm leaning towards the first three pitchers I mentioned, but it's like the opposite of Sophie's choice. Thoughts? (Stuck from A Quandary)	yes, I'd probably go with those three. Eloy over Clevinger is OK too though. (Mike Gianella)
2018-12-18 13:00:00 (link to chat)	Do you know if DRC+ was created just as a means to new content? You know. For the clicks. (Henry Hucklebuck from Honolulu)	Well, you don't expect me to say "yes," do you, Henry? But having been involved with the testing, I can tell you that we saw an opportunity to move offensive stats forward by incorporating factors that other metrics don't use, like opposing pitcher and defense quality, batted ball quality, more sophisticated park factors, and the like. wRC+ and OPS+ are great metrics that moved offensive analysis forward, but they're outcomes-oriented. If Dee Gordon beats out a dribbler up the third base line off Chris Tillman, and Joey Gallo hits a rocket off Blake Snell that Kiermaier chases down, Gordon wins and Gallo loses. We think there's more to it than that. And, as Jonathan Judge showed, DRC+ is both more descriptive and more predictive than other metrics. (Rob Mains)
2018-12-12 17:00:00 (link to chat)	Are there any hitters who you are more optimistic about compared to most fantasy pundits? (Jason from Houston)	This is a difficult question to answer as I haven't seen too many fantasy rankings yet. Going by early NFBC, Dee Gordon is being discounted far too much for last season...even if he repeats his down year 30 steals with an OK batting average outside of the Top 100 plays for me. Going deeper, Jesse Winker's injury really depressed his price. The dude just gets on base. Good things are going to happen for him this year. (Mike Gianella)
2017-11-03 13:00:00 (link to chat)	what does a Dee Gordon -> Mets trade look like? Can you see it happening? (Dan from Nj)	MetsTwitter has gotten obsessed with Dee Gordon lately, and I get it, he's fine and offers a different look offensively. He also has a contract with an attainable vesting option (esp. since he is gonna bat leadoff forever) that would make it 4/51 for the early 30s of a guy who has been an above-average hitter once in his major league career and is very dependent on his legs. Anyway, assuming this is mostly a payroll dump for the Marlins and the Mets are taking the full contract, it shouldn't cost much more than a couple mid-tier prospects I'd think. I also have no idea how the Jeterian regime is gonna approach this. (Jeffrey Paternostro)
2017-10-24 20:00:00 (link to chat)	What does a Dee Gordon -> Mets trade look like. seems like it could make sense for both teams (Dan from Ny)	I dunno, maybe Dom Smith with the idea that the Mets can go out and sign better for the next year or two? It's a tough trade; I can't imagine that the Mets have much the Marlins want that they don't need themselves, and I can't imagine the Mets emptying out the farm for Dee Gordon. -- Jarrett (World Series Chat)
2017-10-24 20:00:00 (link to chat)	What does a Dee Gordon -> Mets trade look like. seems like it could make sense for both teams (Dan from Ny)	I'm with Jarrett ... the Marlins sure need some minor league depth, but the Mets don't have it. They could use a starting pitcher, but who knows how many the Mets have? Seth Lugo? I really don't know here. - Bryan G. (World Series Chat)
2017-10-24 20:00:00 (link to chat)	Hey Rob ... (and also maybe Matt)! Tell me a little about the 2017 Pittsburgh Pirates, and what makes for a compelling story about such a, well, lackluster season. (Not Bryan from Not In This Chat)	Well, they had things go wrong in a kind of interesting way. Cutch was awful, then fantastic, then awful. Marte did a Dee Gordon suspension season impersonation. The Juan Nicasio transaction--put him on revocable waivers, pulled waivers so he wouldn't go to an NL Central foe, where he wound up anyway--was arguably the inscrutable/idiotic transaction of the year. (Bryan, who is BP's transactions expert, had to take off; he probably could list half a dozen more inscrutable/idiotic transactions.) So they were mediocre, though in an arguably interesting way - Rob M (World Series Chat)
2017-09-29 12:00:00 (link to chat)	Does Gavin Cecchini have marginal value in a trade? On the topic of MI, what would it take for the mets to put together a package for Dee Gordon? Does Cecchini, Lindsay and Uceta get it done? Is that something the Mets would do? (Bryce from NJ)	I don't think it's enough. Anyway, they have a ton of MI options and Dee Gordon represents an upgrade over them...probably, but not a significant enough one for the package it would take. Focus really should be on 3B, OF, pitching (Jeffrey Paternostro)
2017-03-22 20:00:00 (link to chat)	"Low minors second base prospect is always a tough profile." Ahhh, so THAT'S why every scout crapped all over me, and Dustin, and Cano, and Mookie B., and on and on and on. Maybe second base shouldn't be looked at as a "tough profile" any more than any other position. (Jose Altuve from Cooperstown, but later)	So Pedroia was a shortstop prospect until Double-A, Cano was mostly a shortstop until High-A (and looked like he would end up at third if we're counting), and Betts played all over the place. People will bring up Jose Altuve until the cows come home, but isn't the guy who turned out to have an 8 hit more the exception than the rule? Here's an exercise: group your favorite X number of MLB second basemen and see how many were second basemen in the low-minors. I'll start. Aside from the above, Daniel Murphy wasn't, Ian Kinsler wasn't, Ben Zobrist wasn't, Javier Baez wasn't, Brandon Phillips wasn't, Neil Walker wasn't, Dee Gordon wasn't, Logan Forsythe wasn't, Brian Dozier mostly wasn't, I think Jason Kipnis and Rougned Odor moved there in High-A, hell even Joe Panik moved there in Double-A. (Jarrett Seidler)
2017-02-13 20:00:00 (link to chat)	The fantasy community seems split on Dee Gordon. Does his lack of power take away from his potential on the bases? (Alberto from Montreal)	His lack of power hurts, sure. If anything, though, the fact that steals are becoming harder and harder to come by help his value rather than hurt it, even if his 1 home run is compared to guys hitting 15-20 homers rather than 10-15 homers. (Scooter Hotz)
2016-08-11 14:00:00 (link to chat)	Billy Hamilton has a .374 OBP and 26 SB in the 24 games since the all star break. Small sample, sure, but that's a 175 SB pace for a full season, and I love dreaming that he can top Rickey's 130 SB season. Two questions: what do you project for him in 2017, and is he the most fun player to watch in MLB when he's playing this well? (Truganini from CO)	Man, I'm not a fan of Billy Hamilton at all, so this is tough for me. I don't think he's an everyday player by the All-Star Break in 2017, if not sooner. However, when he is playing this well, he's dynamite. Even on his top-end, though, I'm not convinced he's too much different than Dee Gordon or Jonathan Villar these days. (J.P. Breen)
2016-06-21 20:00:00 (link to chat)	What do you expect from Dee Gordon when he returns? (Jim from California )	About the same, although I wouldn't expect him to win another batting title again since that involves a bit of luck on top of the skill.The steals might never reach those lofty heights again, either, although for me, that will be due to the fact that players slow down as they age (see Bourn, Michael) rather than getting off the PEDs. (Scooter Hotz)
2015-07-23 17:00:00 (link to chat)	Dynasty league 12 team 5X5 Mccutchen & Dee Gordon or Marte & Betts?? (Jtro from Texas)	Close but I want Cutch and Gordon. (Mike Gianella)
2015-07-28 18:00:00 (link to chat)	Which side of this do you like more- Peralta, Turner and Dee Gordon or Rendon, Odor and Kang? Thanks (Guy Not Working from His Office)	Rendon and Odor for me. (Mauricio Rubio)
2015-05-05 15:00:00 (link to chat)	What up Bobby Shlaina? Three ?s 1) Who do you trust more: Dee Gordon, Logan Forsythe or a dude with a paw-print tattoo? 2) Is it worth picking up Matt Moore or nah? 3) Drake or Lamar? (Boosie from Freed)	Boosie, what's good? 1. I trust Dee Gordon with my life. 2. Matt Moore faced hitters for the first time recently and is certainly worth stashing in a DL spot. 3. One of the great questions in life, but I'm glad it was asked. The beauty of the Drizzy/Kendrick debate is that you don't have to choose. While chatting, I've been listening to GKMC and IYRTITL. I wasn't a big fan of Kendrick's latest album, though, and ultimately give the edge to Drake. He's got all the hits, boy. (Nick Shlain)
2015-01-20 19:30:00 (link to chat)	In a dynasty league, I can keep 4 of these 6, who would you keep? Collin McHugh, Andrew Cashner, Carlos Martinez, Dee Gordon, Wil Myers, and Clint Frazier. I'm interested in who has the most long term value. Thanks! (cracker73 from Florida)	I'd drop McHugh easy, then probably Frazier next. (Ben Carsley)
2015-02-13 19:00:00 (link to chat)	Does PFM value SB too much or is it that we don't value them enough? Preset PFM inputs yield. Player A 83 25 80 26 .261 $26.74 player B 71 23 79 9 .269 $11.86 I'd rather have Player B at that price and use the surplus $14.88 to buy SB and other stats. Also Tony Cingrani is projected by PFM to be a top 35 SP when he can be drafted much later than that. Is he a player to target late in drafts hoping that PECOTA's analysis will yield a nice profit? Thank you. (Julio Ramos from San Antonio)	It's a little bit of both. We probably should be paying more for SB and in mixed formats in particular they get the short shrift. That being said, PECOTA putting a Top 5 or 10 value on a one trick pony like Billy Hamilton overemphasizes his true value, particularly if you don't turn the SGP feature ON. Most importantly, if you value SB "correctly" but your league is paying significantly less for it, you are going to wind up with Billy Hamilton, Dee Gordon, and Ben Revere and not have enough stats elsewhere to compete in your league. As far as Cingrani goes, I don't like him but the high whiff potential does make him a deeper mixed sleeper. He should probably be getting a little play in the reserve rounds or late in the draft portion. (Mike Gianella)
2014-12-18 15:00:00 (link to chat)	Thoughts on Dee Gordon for the upcoming year/s? Safe to expect closer to a .250 hitter with a good number of steals, or is nothing safe at all? Would Maikel Franko and Jimmy Nelson be a good enough return for him in a dynasty league? (FreeBargs from 32nd & 8th)	I think the numbers you've thrown out are more realistic than what the Marlins see in him, but it just depends on if he can get back to making pitchers pay for challenging him in the zone, like he did in the first half. It's possible that was more fluke than performance, but as soon as pitchers realize they could attack him in the zone and he couldn't punish them for it, his walk rate plummeted and he became a significantly less effective player. I'm high on Nelson and don't mind Franco so I think that's a fine return, depending on what it does to your team speed wise, especially if it's roto. (Craig Goldstein)
2014-12-18 15:00:00 (link to chat)	Craig, do you think we've run into an issue where teams are overvaluing years of control when making deals? The A's dealt Samardijza and Moss for underwhelming returns, but the Dodgers shipped out Heaney for Kendrick. What gives? (Chris from Seattle)	I do think years of control are playing a big part in the valuation of players, and I do think it's potentially being overvalued. I love Dee Gordon and he's a nice player, but getting more for four years of him than what a guy like Brandon Moss or Jeff Samardzija brought back strikes me as odd (and don't tell me Miguel Rojas was the key there). I know Dan Haren was in that mix as well, but I do think Gordon was the piece Miami focused on. I know people are thinking that the prospect market is just pretty dry right now with teams wanting to hold on to what they have, and I don't doubt that's the case, but I am surprised a bit at some teams' willingness to give into that market and just sell for what's being offered, especially this early in the offseason. (Craig Goldstein)
2014-09-10 12:00:00 (link to chat)	Does Jose Peraza have 2014 Dee Gordon upside? (Chris from Baltimore)	I think that is the type of player Peraza is envisioned as. I didn't see it when I watched him early in the year, but it was a small sample size. The speed and hit tool are what will carry him. Dee is a rare mold nowadays. (Tucker Blair)
2014-08-25 13:00:00 (link to chat)	Is Dee Gordon's likely to be sustained next year, and if so would he be worth keeper over Gregory Polanco? (Colin from Milwaukee)	He can probably sustain most of it. A few years ago I would have warned against Gordon as a dangerous candidate because of his OBP risk, but with offense down in general I think teams can carry a 300 OBP guy if he's a weapon like Gordon. For Roto, I'd definitely go Gordon over Polanco (in real life I'd obviously rather have Polanco, hands down). (Mike Gianella)
2014-08-04 13:00:00 (link to chat)	Is Dee Gordon's performance to date sustainable? (JasonPennini from Denver)	They are now that he's hitting in the .290's. They weren't when he was hitting .340. He's a nice player and there's a reason he was a top prospect. Sometimes it just takes some time. Remember Dee Gordon when we see other top prospects struggle. He went back down, shifted positions, and turned himself into a good second baseman. Not a bad way to go about things. (Jeff Moore)
2014-06-26 14:00:00 (link to chat)	In a 12 team standard roto dynasty league, would you trade Baez, Bauer, and Stroman for Longo and D. Gordon. Really need the SB's but already have A-Ram and Lawrie. Is Longo really worth all that? (USA!!! from USA!!!)	Why don't you ask harder questions? Goodness. My immediate reaction is no, as I'm not sold that Dee Gordon is more than a platoon bat going forward. A productive one, to be sure, but still a platoon bat. However, I'm waffling a bit, as I think Bauer has huge question marks and is far from a sure thing. If you're "going for it" this year, I can see the move. I really can. Longo is a beast. It would just be hard to give up on Baez for me -- as previously stated, he's a top-5 fantasy prospect for me, and still should be for you. (J.P. Breen)
2014-06-26 14:00:00 (link to chat)	Is trading Joey Votto for Dee Gordon straight up giving too much? I need 2B help (have Zobrist) and I need stolen bases. My 1B is Rizzo and my 1B/3B is filled by VMart (hamsterjockey from DC)	Yeah, that's too much. (J.P. Breen)
2014-06-26 14:00:00 (link to chat)	Are you a believer in Dee Gordon? Has his approach/skill set improved enough to explain the start he's had or is this just an example of small sample size? Can you see him being their everyday 2B still three years from now? (Jape82 from Ottawa, ON)	I briefly touched on Dee Gordon here: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=23920 And, no, I see Dee Gordon as a platoon bat. (J.P. Breen)
2014-06-05 14:00:00 (link to chat)	Does Dee Gordon's long awaited development into a major league regular have any impact whatsoever on Nick's draft status? Does it give teams a little more to dream on, now that Dee looks like (for two months, anyway), a solid major league 2B. (Flash from Texas)	Their games aren't really similar, nor is their physical makeup, so it's unlikely the developmental path of one will much affect opinions on the other. Nick is a more refined player is more physical than his brother, with a lot less speed. (Draft Day Chat with Nick J. Faleris)
2014-05-29 19:30:00 (link to chat)	In a 12 team roto dynasty, would you trade Shields for Dee Gordon? I have 1.5pts in SB’s and doing very well in pitching. Projected 16 over my starts and I’m sitting in 4th. About 10 points out. Should I see if he’ll throw in Kaz or Wheeler or just do the deal to fill the need? Thanks. (Edwin's from On Fire)	If you can get Wheeler back, definitely. If you can get Kaz back, probably. If it's straight up, I'd look for cheaper speed elsewhere. (Ben Carsley)
2014-05-07 17:00:00 (link to chat)	Is Dee Gordon for real? (Scott from AZ)	He's not going to hit .350 or whatever it is he's hitting, but he will get on base enough to steal a lot of bases and be a Roto force. (Mike Gianella)
2014-05-02 14:00:00 (link to chat)	Does Dee Gordon keep the second base job or is he just on a hot streak? (Scott from AZ)	I think that Alexander Guerrero could force himself into the starting lineup if his defense improves to a passable state, but that could take awhile, by which time I expect that Gordon will have turned back into a pumpkin. (Doug Thorburn)
2014-05-02 14:00:00 (link to chat)	So in other words sell high on Dee Gordon? (Scott from AZ)	I would. Guerrero has a .305/.379/.576 in AAA, though its Albuquerque - where Miguel Olivo has an 1100 OPS. (Doug Thorburn)
2014-04-16 19:00:00 (link to chat)	Bonifacio, Brad Miller, and Dee Gordon are my 2B/SS options. I picked them all up, but not sure who to start on a daily basis. Also, one of them are going to be dropped when Latos comes off the DL. Of the 3, who should I drop? (Joe from NY)	I'd bet Bonifacio regresses first and is who you should drop. Right now, Miller is who I'd keep out of daily lineups. Also, Brad Miller best shortstop in AL joke. (Ben Carsley)
2014-04-24 13:00:00 (link to chat)	With Dee Gordon playing well and Alex Guerrero ripping PCL pitching, is there a chance that Guerrero could move to 3B long term? Juan Uribe obviously deserves to keep his job for now, but he is old and there is no way he's a long term solution. (Ryan from Land of Eternal Sunshine (LA))	It could happen, but for now they'll stick with Dee and Uribe. Obviously they paid Guerrero to be an impact player. For now, they have to like how the situation is shaping up. (Paul Sporer)
2014-04-15 13:00:00 (link to chat)	Alex Guerrero has started like a rocket.He needs time to show his range and glove.He must be equal to Dee Gordon. Doubtful Dee will stay in this groove much longer.Do you feel he is Major league ready? (Chesty from New Bern NC)	If Guerrero's not MLB ready, then the decision to give him that kind of money seems a little odd. I think he is being given an acclimation period in the minor leagues and he will be up as soon as injuries strike or Dee Gordon goes back to being the Dee Gordon of old. (Mark Anderson)
2014-03-14 09:00:00 (link to chat)	Hey Mike, love the position rankings and appreciate them coming out early this year. Since some have been out a while are there any rankings that you would really like to change based on something you've seen in the Spring (like an injury perhaps)? Thanks. (DanDaMan from Sea Cliff)	Hi Dan. I reflect the changes in my bid limits that I update every week (including today! http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=23036). Today, I moved Joakim Soria up and Neftali Feliz down and moved Alexander Guerrero down and Dee Gordon up. Kris Medlen is out while Ervin Santana is in in the National League. Check out the rankings for all the latest movers and shakers. (Mike Gianella)
2014-03-14 09:00:00 (link to chat)	Need a shortstop in NL-only deep dynasty league, traditional 5x5, and options are running slim: Gregorious, Furcal, Hechavarria, Dee Gordon, Ruben Tejada, Freddy Galvis, Haveabananarama. Not a rebuilding team, should compete this year, but did not keep Gregorious. (Greg from KC)	Gordon is the guy I'd take a flier on at the moment. OBP risk and could flame out again but he has the upside. Furcal and Gregorius are the next two players on my list but - as you point out - this is a deep NL-only so the options are unsurprisingly uninspiring. (Mike Gianella)
2014-03-17 13:00:00 (link to chat)	Is Dee Gordon a better hitter than Billy Hamilton? Dee plays a more "premium" fantasy position so can he be more valuable? (chri521 from NY)	No. Amazingly, Gordon actually has less power than Hamilton, hard as that is to do. Neither has any power, but Hamilton's speed translates into doubles and triples, while Gordon's hasn't. Sure he's bulked up, but I need to see it first. And Hamilton is faster. If Gordon wins the 2B job, he won't hold onto it for long. (Jeff Moore)
2014-01-27 13:00:00 (link to chat)	Gut feeling on Billy Hamilton? Vince Coleman or Dee Gordon? (Chad from Akron, OH)	Vince Coleman (Jason Parks on the Top 101 Prospects)
2013-05-22 18:00:00 (link to chat)	Seems like everyone was praising Dee Gordon's new patience at the plate last week. But how long will they stick with the recent string of 0-fers with a walk thrown in every now and then not to mention erratic defense? (Scott from LA)	He is who we thought he was. It's not like they have any other options at this point though. (Jason Collette)
2013-05-07 13:00:00 (link to chat)	Who gets more steals this year: Dee Gordon or Michael Bourn? And who should I play at 2B: Everth Cabrera or Matt Carpenter? (Mark from Ky.)	Bourn/Carp (Paul Sporer)
2013-04-30 12:00:00 (link to chat)	Do you see the Dodgers bringing up Dee Gordon again soon and living with his defensive growing pains to try and ignite the offense? (Scott from LA)	Here's a scary thought: Justin Sellers has a 57 OPS+ this season in 71 plate appearances. Last season Dee Gordon had a 56 OPS+ in 330 plate appearances. (R.J. Anderson)
2013-04-16 20:00:00 (link to chat)	Could you please advise if billy hamilton would be worth keeping in a 14 team dynasty rotisserie league? Will he ever hit and be able to get on base to steal those bases OR is he a sell high candidate? Thank you for answering this question. (Ambrose from Boston, Ma)	Yes and yes. In a roto dynasty league, Hamilton is extremely valuable. He had a .400+ OBP last year in the minors, so he's got a better chance at putting that speed to use than someone like Dee Gordon. (Bret Sayre)
2013-04-04 11:00:00 (link to chat)	Is Dee Gordon a viable option as an everyday SS? It seems like a good time to make him the starter even he doesn't offer much more than speed and some promise in the field. (Josh from Seattle)	I've never been that high on Gordon, but I do recognize what he can bring to the table. He has serious speed and he can pick it at a premium position, so you can find a home for that. I don't believe in the bat, but when you have a potent lineup around him, you can survive without his offensive contribution. (Jason Parks)
2013-03-20 11:00:00 (link to chat)	Thoughts on BIlly Hamilton? Will he eventually steal close to 100 bags in the majors? (Luke from MN)	In total or in a single season? First, he has to learn to play CF. I worry about pure-play, no-power speedsters like him, which is why I was down on Dee Gordon last year, but Hamilton is such an extreme case that it's hard to see him NOT having some type of Major League job at some point, even if it's as a 5th OF/pinch-runner. If Tony Campana can have a Big League career, Billy Hamilton sure can! (Cory Schwartz)
2013-03-19 13:00:00 (link to chat)	Do you think at some point this year we see Dee Gordon come around? (Garcia from Houston)	If by come around you mean show up at the park, yes. If you mean play baseball well, I'll go with no. (Matthew Kory)
2012-12-28 13:00:00 (link to chat)	Do you think Dee Gordon wins the SS job in Spring Training and keeps it throughout the entire season? (Nathan from LA)	Hey Nathan, thanks for joining us. Gordon doesn't cost enough to start for the Dodgers. Less facetiously, he doesn't hit enough to start for anyone. I still can't believe he knocked a home run last year. The guy is a great athlete, but a team that has invested so heavily in the present doesn't figure to have much patience for youthful mistakes, such as the inability to handle big-league pitching on a consistent basis. (Geoff Young)
2012-07-30 13:00:00 (link to chat)	Looking ahead, who are your Top 5 SS for next season? (And, if you feel like it, Top 5 CF as well) (sitdancer from DC)	Right now, I'd rank the shortstops 1- Troy Tulowitzki 2- Jose Reyes 3- Starlin Castro 4- Elvis Andrus 5- Ian Desmond I struggled to rank 3-5, and an argument could be made for shuffling them up in any order. Hanley Ramirez could throw a wrench into these rankings if he sees time at SS in Dee Gordon's absence. As for the CF position, I'm much less comfortable ranking them at the moment. Matt Kemp has missed time due to injury, as has Jacoby Ellsbury. Josh Hamilton has been streaky as hell, and I just want to see a bit more from others. As it stands, though, my top 3 would be Trout, Kemp, McCutchen in that order. (Josh Shepardson)
2012-05-21 14:00:00 (link to chat)	Dee Gordon: buy-low guy in fantasy, or might the hit tool always be this bad? I know all the standard qualifications about sample size, but I need to make a decision here. Please answer. I'll be your best friend. (Henry from Minneapolis, MN)	I'd be VERY tempted to buy low. (Kevin Goldstein)
2012-04-23 14:00:00 (link to chat)	In a 12 team mixed H2H league. 26 man 6x6 scoring. I have Jose Reyes and Dee Gordon, Gordon doesn't see much time, and I need SP help. What should I expect in return for Reyes and what for Gordon? I have been told for Reyes a top tier SP + B bat/B arm...people have scoffed at such offers though. Thinking Gordon could get Lohse type pitcher. Thoughts? (MartinRiggs from Toronto)	OK, I'm really not much of a fantasy guy, but I'm learning. Reyes is a huge talent and plays in a big market. You very well could get some real pitching talent for him. As for Gordon, it probably depends on how desperate/smart the other people in your league are. I'd stay away from Lohse though. He's been excellent this year, but nobody, not Roy Halladay or Justin Verlander, is as good as he's been. (Matthew Kory)
2012-03-23 12:00:00 (link to chat)	Dee Gordon is trending up in mocks. With me drafting 8th I got no shot at Tulo. I don't want to reach for Dee, so give me a good 10th to 15th round starting SS. (TJ from So Cal)	The youngsters are going sky high in auctions and drafts this month. Wait 30 picks after Gordon is taken and grab Bonifacio who is good for 25-30 steals (Jason Collette)
2012-03-20 13:00:00 (link to chat)	O/U on Dee Gordon steals is 50. What side do you bet? (TJ from So Cal)	I was about to say the under, just on the impression that he'll need to get used to the league a little more, etc. But then I looked again at his stats. He stole 24 bases in 224 ABs last year. If he can get 500-600 PAs and maybe up that OBP a bit (it was .325 last year), 50 seems like no sweat for the kid. I might take the over now. (Larry Granillo)
2012-01-24 13:00:00 (link to chat)	Is Dee Gordon the real deal? Where does he fit in in a dynasty draft? (Chad from Pasadena)	Yes, I like Gordon. Great speed, good hitting. I don't play dynasty leagues, but I'd think he belongs in the top 7-10 rounds. (Derek Carty)
2012-01-18 13:00:00 (link to chat)	Keeper question: if you had to choose one, would it be Aybar at $5 or Dee Gordon at $8? thanks. (Sam from Cincy)	I'm not sold on Gordon's ability to get on base consistently in the big leagues. He'll give you some steals, but so will Aybar, who's a bit more well-rounded. I haven't played fantasy in years, and I've never played in a keeper league, so I don't have a great feel for dollar values, but former BP fantasy guru Marc Normandin informs me that $8 is an awful lot for Gordon. So, if I had to choose one, I suppose it would be Aybar.--Ben (Best of BP with Ben and Dave)
2011-12-02 14:00:00 (link to chat)	What would you estimate for the number of times out of 100 the threesome of Dee Gordon, Jemile Weeks, and Jose Altuve has more productive careers than the threesome of Ruben Tejada, Johnny Giavotella, and Kyle Seager? (goiter6 from MN)	98. (Kevin Goldstein)
2011-10-04 13:00:00 (link to chat)	Turkey tamale? Sounds pretty disgusting, actually. Did Dee Gordon's performance following his recall (.348/.371/.413 with 15 sbs) give you any reason to reconsider your take on his future potential? (Silv from NY, NY)	He's going to make contact, but I question if that's going to be it. Tons of speed and great hands, which should allow for batting average. But he lacks strength so I question his projections at the plate. Is he an empty .290-.300 hitter with speed and defensive chops? Not a bad outcome, but I think some people projected more. Perhaps he will get there. I'm not sold. (Jason Parks)
2011-09-27 13:00:00 (link to chat)	The pool of available fantasy shortstops (especailly in the NL with HanRam and Drew hurt), is horribly shallow. Any thoughts on sleeper, breakout, under-the-radar guys for next year's auction? (Kingpin from Grinnell, IA)	I haven't started digging too deep yet, but I like the potential of Trevor Plouffe in Minnesota, and I have a hard time believing his teammate Nishioka is this bad. Even Casilla is a decent deep play. In the NL, Chase D'Arnaud is interesting if he gets a chance to start, particularly for his speed. Dee Gordon is an even better play but is more well-known. (Derek Carty)
2011-04-13 13:00:00 (link to chat)	Did the Dodgers show their faith in Dee Gordon by promoting Ivan De Jesus, Jr? (by the way, when else has one son of a former player been promoted over the son of another former player?) (mef from Brooklyn)	Gordon isn't ready. The glove flashes, but its not consistent and I question the long-term potential of the bat. He just lacks strength and I don't see where its going to come from. (Jason Parks)

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