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Birth Date10-21-1983
Height6' 2"
Weight200 lbs
Age34 years, 11 months, 0 days
BatsR
ThrowsR
5.72014
7.52015
1.52016
6.02017
5.12018
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WARP Summary

MLB Statistics

Historical (past-seasons) WARP is now based on DRA..
cFIP and DRA are not available on a by-team basis and display as zeroes(0). See TOT line for season totals of these stats.
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YEAR Team Lg G GS IP W L SV H BB SO HR oppTAv PPF H/9 BB/9 HR/9 K/9 GB% BABIP TAv WHIP FIP ERA cFIP DRA DRA- WARP
2004 KCA MLB 24 24 145.0 8 11 0 143 26 100 26 .264 101 8.9 1.6 1.6 6.2 37% .267 .249 1.17 4.81 3.97 93 3.43 70.9 3.7
2005 KCA MLB 33 33 183.0 5 17 0 233 53 114 23 .267 104 11.5 2.6 1.1 5.6 40% .336 .289 1.56 4.51 5.80 101 4.39 94.4 2.3
2006 KCA MLB 3 0 6.3 1 0 0 7 3 5 1 .262 105 9.9 4.3 1.4 7.1 35% .316 .253 1.58 5.08 4.26 100 5.34 108.8 0.0
2007 KCA MLB 52 14 122.0 7 7 1 122 36 106 12 .265 102 9.0 2.7 0.9 7.8 33% .314 .248 1.30 3.80 3.69 80 3.46 71.6 2.9
2008 KCA MLB 32 32 202.3 13 10 0 202 56 183 21 .263 102 9.0 2.5 0.9 8.1 43% .308 .248 1.28 3.58 3.47 79 3.07 65.5 5.5
2009 KCA MLB 33 33 229.3 16 8 0 195 51 242 11 .260 105 7.7 2.0 0.4 9.5 41% .303 .211 1.07 2.36 2.16 63 2.72 58.3 7.3
2010 KCA MLB 33 33 220.0 10 14 0 219 55 181 18 .258 110 9.0 2.2 0.7 7.4 47% .306 .244 1.25 3.31 4.17 85 4.22 95.3 2.7
2011 MIL MLB 28 28 171.7 16 6 0 161 45 201 19 .255 105 8.4 2.4 1.0 10.5 49% .319 .248 1.20 2.94 3.83 69 2.80 65.2 4.6
2012 ANA 0 13 13 89.3 6 2 0 80 26 78 11 .266 96 8.1 2.6 1.1 7.9 45% .279 .249 1.19 3.83 3.53 92 3.63 83.3 1.6
2012 MIL 0 21 21 123.0 9 3 0 120 28 122 7 .257 107 8.8 2.0 0.5 8.9 55% .326 .228 1.20 2.57 3.44 85 3.46 79.3 2.5
2013 LAN MLB 28 28 177.7 15 4 0 152 46 148 13 .253 100 7.7 2.3 0.7 7.5 48% .276 .230 1.11 3.20 2.63 82 3.02 72.3 4.1
2014 LAN MLB 32 32 202.3 17 8 0 190 43 207 19 .256 98 8.5 1.9 0.8 9.2 50% .311 .243 1.15 2.94 2.71 75 2.54 62.4 5.7
2015 LAN MLB 32 32 222.7 19 3 0 148 40 200 14 .259 93 6.0 1.6 0.6 8.1 49% .229 .191 0.84 2.78 1.66 75 2.24 52.2 7.5
2016 ARI MLB 26 26 158.7 13 7 0 161 41 134 23 .262 102 9.1 2.3 1.3 7.6 47% .294 .257 1.27 4.15 4.37 92 4.56 100.8 1.5
2017 ARI MLB 32 32 202.3 17 7 0 172 45 215 25 .266 100 7.7 2.0 1.1 9.6 48% .285 .224 1.07 3.32 3.20 74 2.93 62.4 6.0
2018 ARI MLB 31 31 194.3 14 10 0 169 39 187 28 .264 99 7.8 1.8 1.3 8.7 44% .269 .241 1.07 3.76 3.20 84 3.05 68.2 5.0
2012 TOT MLB 34 34 212.3 15 5 0 200 54 200 18 .261 102 8.5 2.3 0.8 8.5 51% .306 .237 1.20 3.10 3.48 88 3.53 81.0 4.1
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Statistics for All Levels

'opp' stats - Quality of opponents faced - have been moved and are available only as OPP_QUAL in the Statistics reports now.
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YEAR Team Lg G GS IP W L SV H BB SO HR oppTAv PPF H/9 BB/9 HR/9 K/9 GB% BABIP TAv WHIP FIP ERA cFIP DRA DRA-
2002 SPO A- 2 2 4.7 0 0 0 9 0 5 0 .000 17.2 0.0 0.0 9.6 0% .500 .000 1.91 1.17 7.66 0 0.00 0.0
2002 WIL A+ 1 0 2.0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 .000 4.5 0.0 0.0 0.0 0% .167 .000 0.50 3.14 0.00 0 0.00 0.0
2003 WIL A+ 14 14 87.0 11 1 0 56 13 78 5 .000 5.8 1.3 0.5 8.1 0% .220 .000 0.79 2.59 1.14 0 0.00 0.0
2003 WIC AA 9 9 53.0 4 3 0 58 5 34 5 .000 9.8 0.8 0.8 5.8 0% .317 .000 1.19 3.81 3.23 0 0.00 0.0
2004 KCA MLB 24 24 145.0 8 11 0 143 26 100 26 .264 101 8.9 1.6 1.6 6.2 37% .267 .249 1.17 4.81 3.97 93 3.43 70.9
2004 OMA AAA 6 6 28.7 1 1 0 25 6 23 2 .000 7.8 1.9 0.6 7.2 0% .261 .000 1.08 3.64 2.51 0 0.00 0.0
2005 KCA MLB 33 33 183.0 5 17 0 233 53 114 23 .267 104 11.5 2.6 1.1 5.6 40% .336 .289 1.56 4.51 5.80 101 4.39 94.4
2006 KCA MLB 3 0 6.3 1 0 0 7 3 5 1 .262 105 9.9 4.3 1.4 7.1 35% .316 .253 1.58 5.08 4.26 100 5.34 108.8
2006 WIC AA 18 17 105.0 8 3 0 96 27 94 12 .270 87 8.2 2.3 1.0 8.1 39% .293 .254 1.17 3.90 4.37 79 2.26 92.2
2007 KCA MLB 52 14 122.0 7 7 1 122 36 106 12 .265 102 9.0 2.7 0.9 7.8 33% .314 .248 1.30 3.80 3.69 80 3.46 71.6
2008 KCA MLB 32 32 202.3 13 10 0 202 56 183 21 .263 102 9.0 2.5 0.9 8.1 43% .308 .248 1.28 3.58 3.47 79 3.07 65.5
2009 KCA MLB 33 33 229.3 16 8 0 195 51 242 11 .260 105 7.7 2.0 0.4 9.5 41% .303 .211 1.07 2.36 2.16 63 2.72 58.3
2010 KCA MLB 33 33 220.0 10 14 0 219 55 181 18 .258 110 9.0 2.2 0.7 7.4 47% .306 .244 1.25 3.31 4.17 85 4.22 95.3
2011 MIL MLB 28 28 171.7 16 6 0 161 45 201 19 .255 105 8.4 2.4 1.0 10.5 49% .319 .248 1.20 2.94 3.83 69 2.80 65.2
2011 BRV A+ 1 1 3.0 0 0 0 1 0 4 0 .261 93 3.0 0.0 0.0 12.0 50% .167 .066 0.33 0.71 0.00 90 3.82 83.6
2011 NAS AAA 2 2 7.7 0 1 0 10 2 9 1 .262 92 11.7 2.3 1.2 10.6 64% .429 .341 1.57 3.91 4.70 79 2.75 48.4
2012 ANA MLB 13 13 89.3 6 2 0 80 26 78 11 .266 96 8.1 2.6 1.1 7.9 45% .279 .249 1.19 3.83 3.53 92 3.63 83.3
2012 MIL MLB 21 21 123.0 9 3 0 120 28 122 7 .257 107 8.8 2.0 0.5 8.9 55% .326 .228 1.20 2.57 3.44 85 3.46 79.3
2013 LAN MLB 28 28 177.7 15 4 0 152 46 148 13 .253 100 7.7 2.3 0.7 7.5 48% .276 .230 1.11 3.20 2.63 82 3.02 72.3
2013 RCU A+ 1 1 4.3 0 0 0 6 0 4 1 .283 88 12.5 0.0 2.1 8.3 53% .312 .358 1.38 4.91 6.23 0 0.00 0.0
2014 LAN MLB 32 32 202.3 17 8 0 190 43 207 19 .256 98 8.5 1.9 0.8 9.2 50% .311 .243 1.15 2.94 2.71 75 2.54 62.4
2015 LAN MLB 32 32 222.7 19 3 0 148 40 200 14 .259 93 6.0 1.6 0.6 8.1 49% .229 .191 0.84 2.78 1.66 75 2.24 52.2
2016 ARI MLB 26 26 158.7 13 7 0 161 41 134 23 .262 102 9.1 2.3 1.3 7.6 47% .294 .257 1.27 4.15 4.37 92 4.56 100.8
2016 RNO AAA 1 1 5.0 0 1 0 9 2 5 2 .257 112 16.2 3.6 3.6 9.0 44% .438 .373 2.20 8.12 9.00 93 4.42 89.8
2016 DIA Rk 1 1 3.0 0 1 0 4 0 5 0 .238 96 12.0 0.0 0.0 15.0 62% .500 .226 1.33 0.77 0.00 83 1.88 36.9
2017 ARI MLB 32 32 202.3 17 7 0 172 45 215 25 .266 100 7.7 2.0 1.1 9.6 48% .285 .224 1.07 3.32 3.20 74 2.93 62.4
2018 ARI MLB 31 31 194.3 14 10 0 169 39 187 28 .264 99 7.8 1.8 1.3 8.7 44% .269 .241 1.07 3.76 3.20 84 3.05 68.2

Plate Discipline

YEAR PITCHES ZONE_RT SWING_RT CONTACT_RT Z_SWING_RT O_SWING_RT Z_CONTACT_RT O_CONTACT_RT SW_STRK_RT
2008 3180 0.5204 0.4535 0.7829 0.6181 0.2748 0.8387 0.6468 0.2171
2009 3452 0.4760 0.4395 0.7614 0.5940 0.2991 0.8617 0.5804 0.2386
2010 3436 0.4898 0.4424 0.8066 0.6072 0.2841 0.8865 0.6426 0.1934
2011 2835 0.4409 0.4402 0.7404 0.6160 0.3016 0.8571 0.5523 0.2596
2012 3378 0.4325 0.4204 0.7732 0.5859 0.2942 0.8832 0.6064 0.2268
2013 2807 0.4617 0.4617 0.7515 0.6358 0.3124 0.8313 0.6123 0.2485
2014 3194 0.4750 0.4706 0.7399 0.6157 0.3393 0.8490 0.5606 0.2601
2015 3235 0.4535 0.4708 0.7255 0.6394 0.3309 0.8305 0.5573 0.2745
2016 2493 0.4276 0.4842 0.7697 0.6248 0.3791 0.9009 0.6081 0.2303
2017 3141 0.4164 0.4575 0.7063 0.5856 0.3661 0.8381 0.5559 0.2937
2018 3012 0.4290 0.4525 0.7439 0.5898 0.3494 0.8438 0.6173 0.2561
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Injury History  —  No longer being updated

Last Update: 12/31/2014 23:59 ET

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
2014-08-18 2014-08-18 DTD 0 0 Right Elbow Soreness -
2014-02-28 2014-03-12 Camp 12 0 Right Lower Leg Strain Calf - -
2013-04-12 2013-05-15 15-DL 33 29 Left Shoulder Surgery Clavicle Fracture From Brawl 2013-04-13 -
2013-03-02 2013-03-20 Camp 18 0 Right Elbow Inflammation - -
2011-03-22 2011-05-04 15-DL 43 28 Left Trunk Recovery From Fracture 7th Rib -
2011-03-06 2011-03-22 Camp 16 0 Left Trunk Fracture 7th Rib From Offseason Incident -
2011-02-23 2011-02-24 Camp 1 0 Left Trunk Contusion Ribs From Offseason Incident -
2010-07-07 2010-07-16 DTD 9 4 Right Shoulder Inflammation -
2010-02-17 2010-03-05 Camp 16 0 Face Surgery Extracted 2 Teeth 2010-02-17
2009-09-17 2009-09-17 DTD 0 0 Right Elbow Contusion Batted Ball -
2006-04-01 2006-06-21 60-DL 81 69 General Medical Mood Disorder Clinical Depression -
2005-04-07 2005-04-07 DTD 0 0 Left Forearm Contusion Batted Ball -

Compensation

Year Team Salary
2021 ARI $35,000,000
2020 ARI $35,000,000
2019 ARI $34,500,000
2018 ARI $34,000,000
2017 ARI $34,000,000
2016 ARI $34,000,000
2015 LAN $25,000,000
2014 LAN $26,000,000
2013 LAN $19,000,000
2012 MIL $13,500,000
2011 MIL $13,500,000
2010 KCA $7,250,000
2009 KCA $3,750,000
2008 KCA $1,400,000
2007 KCA $407,000
2006 KCA $365,000
2005 KCA $330,500
YearsDescriptionSalary
13 yrPrevious$178,502,500
2018Current$34,000,000
14 yrPvs + Cur$212,502,500
3 yrFuture$104,500,000
17 yrTotal$317,002,500

 

Service TimeAgentContract Status
13 y 57 dCasey Close6 years/$206.5M (2016-21)

Details
  • 6 years/$206.5M (2016-21). Signed by Arizona as a free agent 12/9/15. $18M signing bonus (paid in $3M installments each May 31, 2016-21). 16:$31M, 17:$31M, 18:$31M, 19:$31.5M, 20:$32M, 21:$32M. Total of $62.5M in salary is deferred ($10M each in 2016-18, $10.5M in 2019, $11M each in 2020-21), to be paid in five $12.5M installments each Nov. 1, 2022-26. Deferrals reduce present-day value to $193,849,298 (MLB calculation). $2M assignment bonus if traded. Limited no-trade protection: may block deals to 15 clubs. Perks: four premium season tickets, including two paid for by Greinke. Hotel suite on road trips. At signing, highest average annual value in MLB history.
  • 6 years/$147M (2013-18). Signed by LA Dodgers as a free agent 12/10/12. $12M signing bonus. 13:$17M, 14:$24M, 15:$23M, 16:$24M, 17:$23M, 18:$24M. Greinke may opt out of contract after 2015 season. If traded, Greinke receives $3M assignment bonus and may opt out of contract at the end of the season. 2018 salary increases by $2M with 1,000 innings in 2013-17. If Greinke wins Cy Young, salary the following season increases by $1M ($0.5M increase with 2-5 finish in Cy Young vote). Award bonus of $1M if Greinke wins 2018 Cy Young ($0.5M bonus with 2-5 finish in 2018 Cy Young vote). Greinke opted out of contract 11/4/15.
  • 4 years/$38M (2009-12). Signed extension with Kansas City 1/26/09 (avoided arbitration, $4.4M-$3.4M). 09:$3.75M, 10:$7.25M, 11:$13.5M, 12:$13.5M. Acquired by Milwaukee in trade from Kansas City 12/19/10. Acquired by LA Angels in trade from Milwaukee 7/27/12.
  • 1 year/$1.4M (2008). Re-signed by Kansas City 2/7/08 (avoided arbitration, $1.8M-$1.15M). Performance bonus: $25,000 each for 160, 175, 190 IP. $50,000 for 215 IP.
  • 1 year/$0.407M (2007). Re-signed by Kansas City 2/07.
  • 1 year/$0.365M (2006). Re-signed by Kansas City 2/06. Optioned to Double-A 6/06. Recalled 9/06.
  • 1 year/$0.3305M (2005). Renewed by Kansas City 3/05.
  • 1 year (2004). Contract purchased by Kansas City 5/04.
  • Drafted by Kansas City 2002 (1-6) (Apopka HS, Fla.). Signed 7/02, $2.475M signing bonus.

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Platoon

SORT_FIELD PLATOON AVG OBP SLG TAv
10 vs L (Multi) .239 .286 .388 .241
11 vs R (Multi) .233 .275 .364 .225
18 Split (Multi) .006 .011 .023 .016
19 LgAvg (Multi) .006 .020 .015 .013
30 vs L (2016) .256 .294 .451 .257
31 vs R (2016) .269 .321 .435 .257
38 Split (2016) -.014 -.027 .015 -.000
39 LgAvg (2016) .003 .018 .013 .012

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DateQuestionAnswer
2018-04-05 20:00:00 (link to chat)Zack Greinke and Shohei Ohtani should share the award for biggest sand-baggers of Spring Training.
(Mr. Fister from Arlington)
and the show should be on closed circuit television. (Mike Gianella)
2017-03-13 13:00:00 (link to chat)A couple years ago, my son wrote a book for school about some feat of strength, I can't remember what, and all the Dodgers pitchers tried unsuccessfully to do it, until finally Clayton Kershaw took over and did it. My question: Do you think this book contributed to Zack Greinke leaving the Dodgers? I mean, he was called out by name -- I believe the page said, "Then Zack Greinke tried to lift it, but he wasn't strong enough."
(snidog from Utah)
I want to believe that there was just some sort stuck in a rock sitting outside the stadium one day, no explanation, and if Zach Lee had been the one to pull it out he'd be the ace of the Dodgers now. Maybe Greinke left the Dodgers as part of a vision quest, looking to build up his strength and defeat the man who bested him, and fulfill his destiny. It also might have been the money. (Patrick Dubuque)
2016-08-30 13:00:00 (link to chat)David Price and Zack Greinke haven't had typical years. What do you see from them in 2017?
(Nick from MO)
Let's start with Greinke. The combination of the new club, rough first start, and missed time is quite a snowball of factors to wade through. I really see a bounce-back year from him in 2017, perhaps after a long offseason of rest and fantasy football.

Price, well, Price is a different story. I'll be honest, I really don't have a great handle of what's going on with him. I know the Red Sox, really really need him to be himself right now, and I think he's capable of showing up big in the postseason. I think he's going to tinker with some things in the offseason and probably improve a bit, but I'm not sure I'm comfortable expecting a quick return to his past form. (Will Haines)
2016-04-14 20:00:00 (link to chat)Can I get a pat on the back for acquiring Zack Greinke for Trevor Story?
(Jarrett from Gainesville)
Sure, you earned it. For what it's worth, Story went for $19 and Greinke went for $34 in my NL-only 5x5 keeper league on Sunday. (Scooter Hotz)
2015-07-23 17:00:00 (link to chat)What are the % chances that Zack Greinke leaves LA this offseason? What does his payday look like?
(T.J. from Chicago, IL)
80%. There's a good chance he tests the market unless the Dodgers pay him in the Kershaw/Verlander ballpark. I think Greinke is going to get something in the $30MM/AAV neighborhood if he opts out. (Mike Gianella)
2015-06-10 14:00:00 (link to chat)Corey Seager or Byron Buxton?
(Eric from LA)
Give me Seager. I understand how exciting and electrifying Buxton can be, but I think Seager is the better bet to be above-average for the next decade. If he can stick at short for a few years, too, that's just icing on the cake. Fun fact: Zack Greinke identified Seager as the best bat prior to the draft in 2012. (J.P. Breen)
2015-02-06 13:00:00 (link to chat)If you only sign 1 of next year's FA SP class (potentially David Price, Zack Greinke, Johnny Cueto, Jordan Zimmermann, Jeff Samardzija) who would it be?
(Shawnykid23 from CT)
Greinke (Harry Pavlidis)
2014-04-24 13:00:00 (link to chat)For how many other teams would Zack Greinke be the #1 starter? Or is he just a very good #2?
(Harry from Oklahoma)
Lots. He's excellent and he's really seemed to mature with his approach (doesn't let dink hits or misplays behind him rattle him as he did in the past which would lead to implosion outings 4-5x a year) (Paul Sporer)
2013-06-20 13:00:00 (link to chat)What are you seeing from Zack Greinke? Should he return to the form that the Dodgers expected when he was signed?
(Seth from SF)
He's gotta stop starting fights!!! This might be a nice buying opportunity. (Paul Sporer)
2012-12-18 13:00:00 (link to chat)Do you think it was smart for Jerry Dipoto to sign Josh Hamilton instead of Zack Greinke? Jerry Dipoto said signing Josh allows him to create depth in outfield and allows him to trade for SP.
(Keith from Newport Beach)
I really like DiPoto, but I think between the two I'd have preferred Greinke. It does look like he is going through with that plan with Trumbo and Bourjos being rumored almost daily. (Paul Sporer)
2012-12-04 14:00:00 (link to chat)What else is going on with the Rays? Are the negotiations with Washington for Michael Morse and Danny Espinosa for Jeremy Hellickson still a possibility?
(Steve G. from Athens, OH)
They were as of last night, Steve G., so I think that something along those lines remains a possibility. Talks might heat up if/when the Nationals find common ground with Adam LaRoche.

There are a bunch of questions about the Rays, namely Hellickson and Shields, in the queue, so I'll use this as a sort of catchall answer. CBS Sports' Jon Heyman wrote this morning that with Zack Greinke representing the only elite free agent starting pitcher, and with the bidding on Greinke reportedly sky-high, the Rays are increasingly tempted to cash in on one of their starters. I don't think Tampa Bay will move Price, but at this point, either Hellickson or Shields seems a good bet to go. If nothing comes to fruition with the Nats, another possibility might be a deal with the Twins for Josh Willingham, though it's not yet clear if Minnesota is inclined to move him. (Daniel Rathman)
2012-11-29 13:00:00 (link to chat)Your thoughts on what type of contract Zack Greinke should get?
(Jesse from CA)
He will be well-rewarded, as for me he is clearly the best available starter in the open market. He was outstanding the final couple months for the Angels. I saw him completely dominate clubs. Have LOVED his arm since he was in high school, and feel that whoever gets him will be very happy and whoever doesn't will not like their options as much. (Dan Evans)
2012-11-29 13:00:00 (link to chat)What type of contract would you offer Zack Greinke and Josh Hamilton?
(Leo from Texas)
Leo, it is all about supply and demand, and weighing the free agent market against the trade possibilities. I would have more interest in Greinke than Hamilton, only because I am really pitching oriented, plus Greinke is 29 months younger.You have to identify your fall back positions and see whether you need to get uncomfortable in your offers because you covet the player's talent that much compared to your options. Also need to examine your budget and see what fits. (Dan Evans)
2012-11-20 13:00:00 (link to chat)Do you see anything that makes you believe Zach Lee can be a no. 2?
(Ryan from Boston)
I'd bet on less than that right now, but there is still time for him to pull a Cliff Lee or Zack Greinke and flip the switch in the next few years. The Dodgers are betting on that, too, which is why they didn't 'sell low' on him over the summer and include him in one of their two big trades. (Jason A. Churchill)
2012-10-18 13:00:00 (link to chat)Hi RJ, Of all the starting pitchers aquired pre-trade dealine this year (Greinke, Dempster, Sanchex, Wandy, etc), which ones do you believe had the biggest impact on their teams short-term, and will have the biggest long-term? thanks, Frank
(Frank from Singapore)
Hey Frank, I would say Zack Greinke had the biggest short-term impact. He pitched like himself with the Angels, which is to say he pitched well. Obviously Greinke wasn't enough to push the Angels into the postseason, but it's hard to blame him for that.

As for long-term impact, I think it has to be Rodriguez because the others are free-agents-to-be and will not bring back draft picks under the new CBA. In that sense, their value is contained to this past season only. (R.J. Anderson)
2012-10-16 14:00:00 (link to chat)3 fairly valuable SPs got dealt at the trading deadline with Dempster, Greinke and Sanchez. Who got the best return for their former team?
(jlarsen from chicago)
Obviously, Jeremy Guthrie was the best starter dealt at the deadline, so I'll give the Royals the best return for getting him for Jonathan Sanchez. Among these lesser lights, though--probably Greinke, which is what you'd expect, given that he's, you know, Zack Greinke. (Ben Lindbergh)
2012-09-26 13:00:00 (link to chat)Zack Greinke: Major league pitcher or serial killer?
(Jake from California)
Absolutely. (Ian Miller)
2012-07-26 14:00:00 (link to chat)If you were the Brewers' GM, what would you be looking to do at the deadline?
(adambennett from The Batcave)
The Crew is feeling the hangover from last year's playoff push, and too many injuries makes it clear they won't be in the playoff picture. So I'd sell, just like they're getting ready to do now. Zack Greinke is a great trading chip, and I'd move Aramis Ramirez and maybe Corey Hart if I had to-if anyone wants Randy Wolf or K-Rod, I'd trade them as well. Also not a Carlos Gomez fan; I've been hoping they'd dump him for years. They need to restock their farm system with some position prospects to make up for last year's fire sale and give a look to Logan Schafer and Taylor Green. They can be competitive again once the team's healthy, so there's no need to dump everyone, but they need to face reality and get ready for 2013. (Michael Street)
2012-06-29 13:00:00 (link to chat)In four weeks, Zack Greinke will be in the rotation for ____________.
(jhardman from Apex, NC)
Kansas City. Wait, just kidding!

If the Brewers do go ahead and trade for Greinke, my best bets are (gets out dartboard) the Diamondbacks, who have a wealth of young pitching prospects, and the Rangers, who have a very rich system in general and a desire to get over the top. (Jay Jaffe)
2012-06-19 13:00:00 (link to chat)Picture this: Dickey deserves to make (and possibly start) the ASG. However, none of the presumed NL all-star catchers have experience catching a knuckler. Dickey lobbies to have Josh Thole added to roster as his "personal catcher". Request is turned down because now ... "the game counts" and Thole is not worthy of a spot on the roster. Comments?
(dianagram from VORGville)
Personally, I want Zack Greinke to start the All-Star Game just because it's in Kansas City. Others, like Dickey, are more likely candidates though.

As for the scenario, it's interesting. I can see it being a possibility, complete with Thole not making it. And I wouldn't be too saddened by it. Catchers may not be used to catching the knuckler, but I bet they can if necessary (especially for 2 innings). the more important consideration, though, is what La Russa thinks about catchers catching the knuckler. I bet he'd be happy to give Yadier Molina that chance. If Brian McCann is the starter though, he might think differently... (Larry Granillo)
2012-01-24 13:00:00 (link to chat)Zack Greinke is a prime candidate for a bounceback year. Is an ERA between 2.50-3.00 in the cards? Where do you have him ranked among SPs?
(PJ from Bronx)
Projecting a player for a sub-3.00 ERA is rarely a good idea, but I do love Greinke and think he could be a top 5 SP in fantasy baseball this year. (Derek Carty)
2011-06-21 13:00:00 (link to chat)How high could I aim in a dynasty by offering Oswalt/Kipnis for a single SP?
(JT from Exhibition Stadium)
As long as owners don't get so offended that it puts them off to trading with you in the future, don't worry about starting a little high and seeing what happens. I might try for Zack Greinke first, especially if his owner is worried. Otherwise, assuming you don't like Oswalt or his age makes him less valuable with how your league is formatted, after that I might turn to Greinke's teammates Marcum and Gallardo. (Derek Carty)
2011-06-14 13:00:00 (link to chat)I have a very strong pitching staff in a long term keeper Strat-O-Matic 16 team league and I only need five starters. Which five of these would you keep? Josh Beckett, Matt Cain, Tim Lincecum, Zack Greinke, CJ Wilson, Jordan Zimmermann, Clayton Kershaw, Derek Holland, Alexi Ogando, and Chris Narveson. Keep in mind I can keep them forever.
(jhardman from Apex, NC)
Lincecum, Kershaw, Greinke, and Cain seem like obvious choices. I'd probably go with Beckett for the last spot, though Wilson might be safer, given Beckett's age and injury history. (Ben Lindbergh)
2011-03-09 13:00:00 (link to chat)Yuniesky Betancourt, great shortstop or greatest shortstop in the game? Can't believe we got him from the Royals! They even gave us whats his name too!
(BrewCrew4Life from CB4)
I disagree about Betancourt. The other player in that trade was Zack Greinke. (Jeremy Greenhouse)
2011-03-09 13:00:00 (link to chat)At least Betancourt will be playing for the Crew on Opening Day...unlike that other guy!
(Chris from WI)
Jeff Sullivan tweet: "The weirdest thing about Zack Greinke hurting himself playing basketball is that Zack Greinke has friends." Greinke is one of my favorite players. (Jeremy Greenhouse)
2011-03-08 14:00:00 (link to chat)Do you think the move to the NL and to a more competitive environment (he was bored in KC) will result in 2009-ish numbers from Zack Greinke? Should we expect 200+ Ks and an ERA below 3.00?
(Pete from Bronx)
Here's what I don't buy about this whole line of thought that he didn't do well last year because the team was bad... last I recall the Royals were pretty bad in 2009 and he won the Cy Young Award that year. He wasn't bored then? Or maybe he was over his head in 2009, and last year it evened out, and the real Greinke is somewhere in between? Accept that, adjust for the switch to the NL, and add some offensive support, and I could see an ERA around 3.25-3.35 with 200 or so K's. He'll be part of an exceptional top three with Gallardo and Marcum, but I'm not putting him in the Cy Young race just yet. (Cory Schwartz)
2011-02-08 14:00:00 (link to chat)What do you see Scott Baker doing this year?
(richardkr34 from Saint Paul)
I'm on record as a Baker believer (Scott,not Dusty), so I'm going to say this is the year he pitches up to the level of his peripherals and establishes himself as a very good #2 starter. He's still not as good as Zack Greinke, but this is the year that gap between them narrows somewhat. Or not ... the great thing about the internet is that it's written in ink, and this fall someone will read this comment and mock me for it. I love that, actually. (Ken Funck)
2011-01-12 13:00:00 (link to chat)What did you think of the Matt Garza deal? People seem fairly torn about which side got the better deal, which probably means it was fair right?
(thenamestsam from Brooklyn)
I thought that the package given up by the Cubs was VASTLY overrated by those who wanted to make a facile point about the Cubs overpaying compared to the Zack Greinke deal. Lee and Archer are good prospects, but not coming stars by any means. As for the rest, Guyer had a huge 102 games as a 24-year-old Double-A repeater, but let's seen an encore before we get excited; Fuld is a nice fourth guy who is close to 30, and Chirinos is intriguing as heck but is about to be 27. So the Rays got two potential long-term pieces for a pitcher with a record of success, albeit one who came off of a year which was only superficially strong--league average ERA, declining strikeout rate, a lot of reliance on the defense (although he's had low BABIPs for three straight seasons). It seems like a fair deal to me. (Steven Goldman)
2010-12-02 13:00:00 (link to chat)So, Zack Greinke isn't an ace? You wouldn't trade Scott Baker for him straight up? Seriously?
(Kevin from Elk River)
Well, I think what I said was that Greinke didn't pitch like an ace last year, and I'm probably less excited about his future than many others are, and at the same time more of a believer in Baker than most. But obviously, Greinke is more likely to be great going forward. Not that it really matters, since the Royals apparently have said they won't trade Greinke within the division. As Matt Swartz has pointed out, that's a decision which doesn't really make sense if the trade makes you stronger in the long run, and your opponent stronger in the short run but probably weaker in the long run, it's not only acceptable to trade within the division, it might even be preferable. (Ken Funck)
2010-11-02 13:00:00 (link to chat)Given his unusual career path, how do you analyze/project Zack Greinke moving forward? At some level, the numbers are the numbers, but given his 2009 and his medical history, do statements about him being bored or distracted at the end of 2010 deserve weight? More weight than another player making a similar statement?
(Rob from Alaska)
If you want to see something eerie, go compare Greinke's 2008 to his 2010. Heck, I'll do it here. Innings: 202 vs 220. K/9: 8.1 vs 7.4. BB/9: 2.5 vs 2.3. WHIP: 1.28 vs 1.25. HR/9: 0.9 vs. 0.7. Even if we go to raw totals they are very similar. Last year was likely a mirage. He isn't going to have a 2.16 ERA or anything around that each year, but I see no reason why he cannot be a 3.40 ERA pitcher, which is very valuable in the AL and certainly worthy of ace-status. (Eric Seidman)
2010-10-25 13:00:00 (link to chat)Agreed with your Cincy rotation. But wither Mike Leake? AAA rotation or relief? Personally, I'd like to see Volquez in short relief given his inability to sustain command.
(RMR from Chicago)
I think Leake's the guy who loses initially because the others are that good, but who comes up once the inevitable injury strikes. Although when you consider the sheer amount of rotation depth, plus a smattering of useful prospects at positions where KC has needs, leveraging all that stuff to get in on Zack Greinke would probably be the best non-market solution for how to remain atop the NL Central that Sir Walter could go for. (Christina Kahrl)
2010-06-28 14:00:00 (link to chat)No Ubaldo in the top 5? Not that I'm arguing with the top 5 of Halladay, Timmy, Lee, JJ and Lester. Picking five is difficult; if not impossible.
(johnsond16 from Wherever you find yourself; there you are)
I'm as big an Ubaldo booster as you'll find, been touting him for years as underrated and I'm delighted to see him doing what he's doing. If we're talking 2010 stats, sure he's a top fiver, and might even be the Cy Young winner if he can avoid falling apart in the second half. But if you're taking a larger sample into account, you might want to put guys like Adam Wainwright and Chris Carpenter ahead of him. Maybe Zack Greinke and Felix Hernandez as well.

OK, here's one way of looking at it: 20008-2010 ERA+ leaders, 300 inning mininimum: http://bbref.com/pi/shareit/V8Caz. Ubaldo is 11th behidn all fo the guys listed above plus Johan Santana, who's really starting to show some wear and trending downward. So Ubaldo: top 10 for me unless we're specifically limiting the discussion to 2010 only. (Jay Jaffe)
2010-03-08 13:00:00 (link to chat)Other than the obligatory "who, we are all glad to see, seems to have dealt with his Social Anxiety Disorder" clause after mentioning Khalin Greene or Zack Greinke, mental health issues are rarely mentioned in baseball writing. Have any teams or analysts (or the players union, now that I think of it) ever taken a look at mental health issues in baseball, and, if not, why?
(Bill from Omaha)
Yes. I think it's handled at the team level and handled behind the scenes, as it should be. Each team has an EAP (employee assistance program) director who handles these kinds of issues. Its probably more prevalent than we know, which is good. I struggle with how much to talk about it. I mean, I'm perfectly happy to talk about my history of panic attacks, but that doesn't mean Zack Greinke wants to. (Will Carroll)
2010-01-28 14:00:00 (link to chat)What's the most hopeless franchise in baseball (and by hopeless, I mean bereft of hope to contend for a postseason bid in the near future and appears to be going in the wrong direction)? Kansas City? Houston?
(ElAngelo from NY)
I still think it's the Royals, because while they've got an interesting gaggle of middling pitching prospects and Zack Greinke (OK, and the Mexicutioner), there's just not a lot of reason to expect a major turnaround. It's becoming a waystation franchise staffed with discards, and while some of them might use KC as a place to get their careers back on track (as Callaspo sort of did, and Ankiel might). It's up to Gordon and Butler and Crow and Hochevar to help make that less the case. (Christina Kahrl)
2010-01-14 16:00:00 (link to chat)One would certainly think that a career as a psychotherapist, and an avocation as a Cubs fan, might cause you certain ... internal conflicts. :-) More seriously, do you have any plans to do anything on an "inside a baseball player's head" theme? Zack Greinke, Khalil Greene, etc., would suggest that as a fertile field of inquiry.
(Bill from New Mexico)
I've thought about it, although frankly, it's a little bit ethically weird for me. People have a right to their privacy, and while I can tell you what the diagnostic criteria are for social anxiety disorder are, I don't want to dig too deep into people's personal lives. (Russell A. Carleton)
2009-11-17 14:00:00 (link to chat)Happy with Coughlan and Bailey over Happ/Hanson and Porcello/Andrus?
(Sam from Philadelphia)
Don't care. Seriously, I could go on about this forEVER. Awards mean nothing to me, because they mean nothing in my evaluation of a player. If Zack Greinke for some reason ended up NOT winning the Cy Young today, I wouldn't be upset in the least, because it wouldn't change AT ALL what kind of talent he is. Does that make sense? I just means utterly nothing to me. I don't think I can even tell you who last year's MVP or CY Young winners were. (Kevin Goldstein)
2009-10-13 14:00:00 (link to chat)Give us Royal fans a reason to live.
(kcboomer from kc)
One sunrise of five during the regular season involves a day in which Zack Greinke starts? (Christina Kahrl)
2009-10-07 14:30:00 (link to chat)Zack Greinke should win the AL Cy Young, right? And Felix Hernandez should be his only real competition, right? Please tell me that Verlander and Sabathia won't snipe this award.
(Scotty from KC)
Zack should win; he's had one of the great seasons of the decade this year, and with the Little Sisters of the Poor playing behind him to bood. I think he's going to, because the public opinion on him has come around over the last few weeks in a similar manner to that regarding Mauer.

And the Phillies score again because Carlos Gonzalez runs into the wall and fails to make the catch on a Ryan Howard fly ball, 3-0. I know it's windy there, but whatever happened to quality outfield play? (Jay Jaffe)
2009-10-02 14:00:00 (link to chat)Tigers' fan here that sees trouble this weekend. Its been a fun year considering the clubs' flaws and how they've stayed afloat despite them. Can you "crystal ball" the weekend for the Tigers?
(lemppi from Ankeny, IA)
There six distinct events. The Tigers need just two of them to break their way. One of them has Zack Greinke going for them, which is very good. They're playing a team that isn't playing well, and they miss that team's best starter.

I know we're talking about the team that got swept at home three years ago to fall out of the division lead, but realistically, I figure they're 9-1 to get in. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-09-24 14:00:00 (link to chat)Is everybody ready to concede that the only two bona fide contenders for the AL CYA are Zack Greinke and Felix Hernandez??
(kcboomer from kc)
If that many. Greinke should have it locked up. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-09-02 13:00:00 (link to chat)agree that Grienke has been the best pitcher in the AL, but doubt he wins it due to lack of wins...would it be such a crime for verlander to take it down?
(ct tiger from CT)
Verlander has had a great season and will probably win another weird award - Comeback Player of the Year - but Zack Greinke is the best pitcher in the AL this season. If he doesn't win, the only reasoning will be due to Wins, meaning yes it is a crime for anyone else to win. (Eric Seidman)
2009-09-08 13:00:00 (link to chat)I'm not going to win the Cy Young somehow, am I?
(Mo Rivera from Bronx)
I know your ERA is shiny, but do you really deserve it, Mo? Jon Lester is worth about three times as many wins as you, and he isn't even my pick for AL Cy Young (hi Zack Greinke!) (Marc Normandin)
2009-07-30 14:00:00 (link to chat)Hi John, thanks for the chat. The Royals clearly don't get it, doing nothing more than piddline around the margins. Is there any chance they materially improve the team in the next nine months, are they just totally stuck with the terrible contracts and players they've so enthusiastically pursued (Guillen, Jacobs, et al), or does Dayton Moore simply have no idea how to assemble a competitive major league roster?
(BL from Bozeman)
Quite honestly, Dayton Moore has been a disappointment to me. I thought he would really get that franchise turned around but I wonder if it's every going to happen. Sadly, they may fall into such a deep hole that they'll need to trade Zack Greinke at some point to get three or four players back. (John Perrotto)
2009-05-14 13:00:00 (link to chat)Hey Will, I've recently noticed the publicity of a couple players with anxiety disorders (i.e. Zack Greinke, and Dontrelle Willis), the fact of the matter is there are millions of Americans with anxiety disorders. Do you think this recent "coming out" of players with anxiety issues will spark more and more players to voice the same concerns about their mental state? I just think its interesting because mental health problems can be as debilitating as physical health problems but are almost never mentioned in the media involving MLB; I doubt that is because these problems are not occurring among professional baseball players.
(SnakeDoctor18 from New York)
As someone who dealt with panic attacks for years (and wouldn't have written this column without them), I understand what they're going through. I'm curious because what Willis has said publicly has been opposed to the diagnosis. Is that him denying it and "manning up?" or is the team finding some way to stash him on the DL? (I think it's more the former.) I wish more players would be open with these types of conditions, depression, ADHD, but I also understand why they're not. (Will Carroll)
2009-04-20 13:00:00 (link to chat)How good does Zack Greinke look right about now? Are the Royals contenders if he takes the next step up?
(tom from Squaresville)
Not unless the next step up involves playing second base and posting a .375 OBP. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-04-16 13:00:00 (link to chat)Greinke.
(Goo Goo the cat from Snoozing under the steps)
I do love Zack Greinke, but I think this year's Cliff Lee would need to be someone a bit more under the radar. AKA, not someone I have owned a shirt for the past 3-4 years. (Marc Normandin)
2008-12-23 14:00:00 (link to chat)Would you rather have the next 7 years of Jon Lester or Zack Greinke? How about Clay Kershaw or Francisco Liriano?
(doog7642 from Blaine, MN)
Lester and Liriano, but that's as much about who they're with as it is a comment strictly about their talent. (Christina Kahrl)
2008-04-25 15:00:00 (link to chat)I do the dance of the man who drafted Zack Greinke and Edinson Volquez in the later rounds. Which do I package with one of my excess 3B's to make a move for Brandon Webb? I hate straight fantasy questions, but such joy can apparently inspire great hypocrisy.
(Numfar from Pylea)
Normally I'd say keep the guy with the K rate, but Volquez is a flyball pitcher in a park that punishes same and a manager with a short leash for youngsters, so I'd probalby go with Greinke (Jay Jaffe)
2008-03-28 14:00:00 (link to chat)Any thoughts on Zack Greinke for this year? I think I need a more non-biased opinion after reading too much Rany.
(Ryan S from Vancouver)
I was actually annoyed by Greinke's performance at the end of last season, because I liked him as a 2008 sleeper, and his late-season rush kind of put him on everyone's radar. For my money, he's the Royals' best starter, and a top-15 guy in the AL this year.

Not that I would have wished it upon him in advance, but Greinke's complicated last few years had the effect of saving him a ton of innings. That's a long-term benefit. (Joe Sheehan)
2008-01-29 16:00:00 (link to chat)Which Teahen shows up in 2008?
(kcshankd from Lawrence, KS)
I wish I knew. The Royals are in an awkward position with a lot of their young players - ideally they'd be signing some of them to long-term deals, but how do you properly value a guy like Teahen, who has ranged from awful to excellent to average the last three years? How do you properly valuate Zack Greinke? Alex Gordon would be ideally suited for the Tulowitzki treatment, but his performance last year raised just enough doubts that the Royals probably want to see a little more from him first. But the service time clock is ticking.

As for Teahen, I think his offense level will settle between 2006 and 2007. The problem is that he keeps moving down the defensive spectrum, from 3B to RF to (probably) LF. .280/.350/.450 is pretty good at third base; it's pretty mediocre in left field. (Rany Jazayerli)
2008-01-10 13:00:00 (link to chat)Which young pitcher is comparable to Mike Mussina?
(Brian from CA)
Zack Greinke, in many ways.

A more traditional comp would be Justin Verlander. (Joe Sheehan)


BP Roundtables

DateRoundtable NameComment
2009-06-09 14:30:002009 Draft CoverageOne of the great things about being at BP is having great help just a few keyboard clicks away. I asked Rany, who did his fantastic series on draft history, if he remembers a draft that was better 11-20 than 1-10. Rany jumped into action for me, and found just one in 15 years: 2002.

Top Ten: B.J. Upton, Zack Greinke, Prince Fielder, Jeff Francis.
11-20: Hermida, Joe Saunders, Scott Kazmir, Nick Swisher, Cole Hamels, James Loney, Denard Span.

The best example is 1994, where Garciaparra, Konerko and Varitek went 12-14. Needless to say, the top 10 that boasted Paul Wilson, Ben Grieve, Todd Walker and Jaret Wright wasn't as good. (Bryan Smith)
 

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