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Career Summary
13 4371 .283 .316 .421 96 4.4
Birth Date9-14-1985
Height6' 3"
Weight240 lbs
Age34 years, 4 months, 6 days
WARP Summary

MLB Statistics

2006 TBA 20 30 131 40 9 1 3 1 24 3 2 2 .317 .336 .476 78 -3.2 -0.5 -1.6 -0.3
2007 TBA 21 162 681 186 38 0 13 26 127 3 10 3 .288 .316 .408 86 -9.9 1.6 7.7 1.3
2008 MIN 22 152 623 167 28 4 10 35 105 7 14 5 .290 .336 .405 96 -1.6 1.7 -5.7 0.8
2009 MIN 23 108 416 112 16 2 12 12 92 4 2 5 .284 .308 .425 89 -4.6 -1.9 -4.1 -0.2
2010 MIN 24 153 613 170 46 1 21 28 81 6 5 4 .298 .333 .493 121 15.7 -2.5 -11.6 1.5
2011 DET 25 40 178 46 5 1 8 5 30 2 0 0 .274 .298 .458 93 -1.2 1.1 -1.1 0.3
2011 MIN 25 84 325 81 16 0 4 18 55 0 1 0 .266 .305 .357 93 -2.3 -0.9 -1.2 0.2
2012 DET 26 151 608 153 27 1 18 20 112 7 0 2 .267 .296 .411 96 -2.6 -3.4 -2.8 -0.2
2013 PHI 27 80 291 71 13 0 8 14 69 3 0 0 .261 .302 .397 97 -0.6 -2.8 0.6 0.2
2013 TBA 27 23 70 16 3 0 3 6 9 1 0 0 .258 .329 .452 96 -0.2 -0.9 0.0 0.0
2014 BAL 28 83 255 73 11 1 7 10 51 3 2 0 .302 .337 .442 108 2.4 0.4 0.4 0.7
2015 BAL 29 52 180 47 6 0 2 4 29 1 0 0 .270 .289 .339 79 -3.7 1.0 -0.8 -0.1

Statistics for All Levels

'opp' stats - Quality of opponents faced - have been moved and are available only as OPP_QUAL in the Statistics reports now.
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2004 CSC A SAL 131 578 .000 .000 .000 .380 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2005 MNT AA SOU 84 370 .268 .337 .398 .373 94 9 3.3 -1.3 148 0 -7.7 -1.2 22.5 1.6
2005 DUR AAA INT 52 234 .264 .331 .419 .312 105 0.3 3.6 -1.3 92 0 0.0 0.2 -1.6 0.1
2006 TBA MLB AL 30 131 .263 .325 .425 .370 109 1.6 3.9 -1.4 78 14 -1.6 -0.5 -3.2 -0.3
2006 DUR AAA INT 86 370 .263 .328 .396 .372 99 8.3 9.6 -3.5 119 0 -6.9 0.4 6.9 0.6
2007 TBA MLB AL 162 681 .264 .332 .412 .338 103 -12 20.2 -6 86 8 7.7 1.6 -9.9 1.3
2008 MIN MLB AL 152 623 .267 .332 .418 .338 98 -0.1 18.0 -4.3 96 8 -5.7 1.7 -1.6 0.8
2009 MIN MLB AL 108 416 .267 .335 .421 .338 104 -7.6 12.0 -3.2 89 6 -4.1 -1.9 -4.6 -0.2
2010 MIN MLB AL 153 613 .260 .326 .401 .312 108 12.3 16.9 -4.1 121 9 -11.6 -2.5 15.7 1.5
2011 DET MLB AL 40 178 .266 .328 .420 .286 106 1.2 4.8 -1.1 93 11 -1.1 1.1 -1.2 0.3
2011 MIN MLB AL 84 325 .254 .315 .395 .310 103 -8.2 8.8 -2.3 93 11 -1.2 -0.9 -2.3 0.2
2011 ROC AAA INT 9 32 .256 .323 .396 .292 97 2.4 1.0 -0.5 116 0 -0.4 -0.1 0.6 0.1
2012 DET MLB AL 151 608 .256 .320 .412 .299 105 -6.9 16.7 -9.3 96 7 -2.8 -3.4 -2.6 -0.2
2013 PHI MLB NL 80 291 .256 .315 .394 .320 104 -2.1 7.7 -3 97 15 0.6 -2.8 -0.6 0.2
2013 TBA MLB AL 23 70 .237 .305 .385 .255 96 2.8 1.8 -1.1 96 15 0.0 -0.9 -0.2 0.0
2013 CLR A+ FSL 3 14 .240 .304 .345 .545 101 2.1 0.4 -0.2 132 0 -0.6 -2.2 0.2 -0.2
2013 MNT AA SOU 7 31 .258 .308 .377 .273 101 -1.6 0.8 -0.5 79 0 0.0 -0.1 -1.1 -0.1
2013 LEH AAA INT 4 17 .246 .318 .384 .385 99 -1.4 0.5 -0.2 93 0 -0.2 -0.4 -0.3 -0.1
2014 BAL MLB AL 83 255 .253 .311 .394 .359 99 7.1 6.6 -3.1 108 10 0.4 0.4 2.4 0.7
2015 BAL MLB AL 52 180 .254 .309 .403 .313 114 -7.5 4.9 -1.8 79 12 -0.8 1.0 -3.7 -0.1
2018 MAG Wnt VWL 44 193 .258 .333 .373 .328 106 9.4 5.3 -3.4 102 1 0.0 0.2 4.6 0.6

Statistics For All Levels

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2004 CSC A SAL 578 513 95 165 26 5 25 276 116 53 120 21 6 .322 .392 .538 .216 0 0
2005 DUR AAA INT 234 228 33 65 13 3 6 102 28 4 33 7 4 .285 .303 .447 .162 0 0
2005 MNT AA SOU 370 330 59 111 13 4 20 192 71 25 66 25 8 .336 .395 .582 .245 0 0
2006 DUR AAA INT 370 342 50 108 22 4 8 162 59 15 65 22 4 .316 .350 .474 .158 0 0
2006 TBA MLB AL 131 126 16 40 9 1 3 60 10 1 24 2 2 .317 .336 .476 .159 1 0
2007 TBA MLB AL 681 645 65 186 38 0 13 263 93 26 127 10 3 .288 .316 .408 .119 7 0
2008 MIN MLB AL 623 575 80 167 28 4 10 233 69 35 105 14 5 .290 .336 .405 .115 5 1
2009 MIN MLB AL 416 395 50 112 16 2 12 168 60 12 92 2 5 .284 .308 .425 .142 5 0
2010 MIN MLB AL 613 570 77 170 46 1 21 281 112 28 81 5 4 .298 .333 .493 .195 9 0
2011 DET MLB AL 178 168 28 46 5 1 8 77 32 5 30 0 0 .274 .298 .458 .185 3 0
2011 MIN MLB AL 325 305 26 81 16 0 4 109 32 18 55 1 0 .266 .305 .357 .092 2 0
2011 ROC AAA INT 32 31 5 9 3 0 2 18 5 1 5 0 0 .290 .313 .581 .290 0 0
2012 DET MLB AL 608 574 54 153 27 1 18 236 74 20 112 0 2 .267 .296 .411 .145 7 0
2013 MNT AA SOU 31 30 4 7 0 0 1 10 3 1 7 0 0 .233 .258 .333 .100 0 0
2013 TBA MLB AL 70 62 8 16 3 0 3 28 7 6 9 0 0 .258 .329 .452 .194 1 0
2013 LEH AAA INT 17 17 2 5 1 0 0 6 1 0 4 0 0 .294 .294 .353 .059 0 0
2013 CLR A+ FSL 14 13 1 6 1 0 0 7 1 0 3 0 0 .462 .429 .538 .077 1 0
2013 PHI MLB NL 291 272 22 71 13 0 8 108 31 14 69 0 0 .261 .302 .397 .136 2 0
2014 BAL MLB AL 255 242 27 73 11 1 7 107 30 10 51 2 0 .302 .337 .442 .140 0
2015 BAL MLB AL 180 174 20 47 6 0 2 59 16 4 29 0 0 .270 .289 .339 .069 1 0
2018 MAG Wnt VWL 193 182 30 55 9 0 13 103 35 9 41 0 0 .302 .342 .566 .264 0 0

Plate Discipline

YEAR Pits Zone% Swing% Contact% Z-Swing% O-Swing% Z-Contact% O-Contact% SwStr% CSAA
2008 2146 0.4702 0.5815 0.7508 0.7671 0.4169 0.8320 0.6181 0.2492 -0.0027
2009 1437 0.5045 0.5873 0.7370 0.7669 0.4045 0.8237 0.5694 0.2630 0.0081
2010 1953 0.4680 0.5750 0.8014 0.7615 0.4110 0.8707 0.6885 0.1986 -0.0054
2011 1728 0.4705 0.5434 0.7881 0.7036 0.4011 0.8829 0.6403 0.2119 0.0035
2012 2064 0.4627 0.5891 0.7418 0.7770 0.4274 0.8369 0.5928 0.2582 0.0032
2013 1327 0.4748 0.5712 0.7005 0.7603 0.4003 0.7933 0.5412 0.2995 0.0021
2014 925 0.4551 0.5568 0.7301 0.7625 0.3849 0.8474 0.5361 0.2699 0.0016
2015 604 0.4768 0.6010 0.7466 0.8056 0.4146 0.8276 0.6031 0.2534 -0.0057

Injury History  —  No longer being updated

Last Update: 12/31/2014 23:59 ET

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
2013-03-22 2013-04-30 15-DL 39 26 Right Ankle Recovery From Surgery Bone Spurs and Cartilage 2012-11-10 -
2012-11-10 2012-11-10 FA 0 0 Right Ankle Surgery Bone Spurs and Cartilage 2012-11-10 -
2012-03-27 2012-03-29 Camp 2 0 - Knee Soreness - -
2011-10-07 2011-10-10 DTD 3 0 Left Abdomen Strain - -
2011-06-26 2011-07-11 15-DL 15 14 Right Ankle Sprain Running Into Structure -
2011-05-24 2011-05-24 DTD 0 0 Left Lower Leg Contusion -
2011-04-19 2011-05-13 15-DL 24 19 Abdomen Strain Oblique -
2011-04-19 2011-04-19 On-Alr 0 0 - General Medical Illness - -
2011-03-18 2011-03-19 Camp 1 0 Left Arm Contusion Triceps HBP -
2011-02-25 2011-03-11 Camp 14 0 Left Sprain Capsule -
2010-07-08 2010-07-08 DTD 0 0 Left Wrist Sprain -
2009-03-30 2009-04-03 Camp 4 0 Right Shoulder Soreness -
2008-09-03 2008-09-03 DTD 0 0 Ankle Soreness -
2008-08-19 2008-08-20 DTD 1 1 Ankle Sprain -
2008-05-12 2008-05-12 DTD 0 0 Left Ankle Sprain -
2003-05-01 2003-05-01 HS 0 0 Right Ankle Sprain -


Year Team Salary
2015 BAL $2,250,000
2014 BAL $1,000,000
2013 PHI $750,000
2012 DET $6,750,000
2011 MIN $5,375,000
2010 MIN $2,600,000
2009 MIN $1,152,000
2008 MIN $700,000
2007 TBA $1,340,000
9 yrPrevious$21,917,000
9 yrTotal$21,917,000


Service TimeAgentContract Status
8 y 28 dArn Tellem1 year/$2.25M (2015)

  • 1 year/$2.25M (2015). Re-signed by Baltimore 1/9/15. Performance bonuses: $0.125M each for 250, 300 plate appearances. $0.1M each for 400, 450, 500, 550, 600 PAs. DFA by Baltimore 7/1/15. Released 7/9/15.
  • 1 year (2014). Signed by Baltimore as a free agent 1/14/14 (minor-league contract). Salary of $1M in majors. May earn additional $0.75M in performance bonuses. Contract selected by Baltimore 3/30/14.
  • 1 year/$0.75M (2013). Signed by Philadelphia as a free agent 1/22/13. Roster bonuses: $0.25M for 1 day on active roster. $0.1M each for 40, 80, 120, 160 days on active roster. Performance bonuses: $0.15M each for 250, 300, 350, 400 plate appearances. $0.2M each for 450, 500 PAs. $0.25M each for 550, 600 PAs. May earn additional $0.6M based on six weigh-ins during season: $0.1M each for weighing 230 pounds or less for first three weigh-ins. $0.1M each for weighing 235 pounds or less for last three weigh-ins. DFA by Philadelphia 8/9/13. Released 8/14/13. Signed by Tampa Bay as a free agent 8/22/13 (minor-league contract). Contract selected by Tampa Bay 9/1/13.
  • 1 year/$6.75M (2012). Signed by Detroit 1/17/12 (avoided arbitration).
  • 1 year/$5.375M (2011). Re-signed by Minnesota 2/16/11 (avoided arbitration, $6.25M-$4.65M). Acquired by Detroit in trade from Minnesota 8/15/11.
  • 1 year/$2.6M (2010). Re-signed by Minnesota 1/19/10 (avoided arbitration).
  • 1 year/$1.152M (2009). Re-signed by Minnesota 2/12/09 (maximum 20% cut from 2008 earnings of $1.44M) (split contract, $0.864M in minors).
  • 5 years/$5.8M (2003-07). Signed Major League contract with Tampa Bay. $3.7M signing bonus. 04:$0.125M, 05:$0.175M, 06:$0.5M, 07:$0.6M, 08:$0.7M. Higher salaries in majors (04:$0.35M, 05:$0.4M). $0.45M in performance bonuses. Optioned to A 3/04. Optioned to Double-A 3/05. Optioned to Triple-A 3/06. Recalled 8/06. Acquired by Minnesota in trade from Tampa Bay 11/28/07.
  • Drafted by Tampa Bay 2003 (1-1) (Camarillo HS, Calif.).

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2015-07-15 13:00:00 (link to chat)Has there ever been a trade(s) centered around good prospect for good prospect? For example; Like a Baez for Berrios (MI for SP), or a position player for a position player?
(Todd from Fargo)
It's usually really good young player for good prospect; like Montero for Pineda or Garza for (LOL) Delmon Young. I can't think of a big time prospect for prospect trade. I bet you these reader can though! (Christopher Crawford)
2014-10-14 18:00:00 (link to chat)Who should Tiger fans be rooting for out these last 4 teams? Perhaps the Royals, since that would ensure years more employment for Dayton Moore and Ned Yost?
(John from Cincinnati)
The Orioles have Quintin Berry (non-rostered) and Delmon Young, but a championship may fatten the Andrew Miller price tag. For the ERoyals, I think Moore and Yost are hanging around regardless, and if they win then we can say the AL Central's lifespan has seen dynasties by the Indians, Twins and Tigers but championships from the Royals and White Sox. What a world. Inherently Tigers fans cannot wish well on the Giants nor the Cardinals for pseudo-clutch reasons. But Jhonny Peralta deserves to be happy, so if that's what happens then good for him. After all that's how Gerald Laird got his ring. (Matt Sussman)
2014-08-06 16:30:00 (link to chat)What other position players do you want to see pitch
(Michael from CT)
Rafael Furcal, Jean Segura, Delmon Young, Babe Ruth, but he's dead. (Cespedes Family BBQ)
2013-11-12 13:00:00 (link to chat)been in a debate with a friend...who would you rather have over the next 5-7 years, Freddie Freeman or Will Meyers? How close is the decision, and what is the deciding factor for you?
(ray6072 from Lousiana)
Freeman, it's not that close, and because there's no chance of failure for Freeman at this point. His floor is average. Myers' floor is still very much Delmon Young. (Sam Miller)
2013-10-24 13:00:00 (link to chat)Think its pretty cool how the giants are embracing saber concepts signing Lincecum based of dips theory. Any chance Rays move Yunel Escobar to Centerfield where his arm can shine and Desmond Jennings back to left?
(Fip Lincecum from Yay(o) Area)
Did the Giants come out and say that? Because I've read pieces that say 'this justifies the signing' but I've never heard anyone connected to the Giants make that statement. I suspect they haven't because if they did the internet would explode.

I'd be shocked if the Rays moved Escobar to the outfield. Who would they put at shortstop? Don't think Delmon Young would cut it there. (Matthew Kory)
2013-08-22 13:00:00 (link to chat)Delmon Young. WHY???????????
(Brady Childs from Aunt's house in Louisiana)
Why not? TB will deploy him properly (v. LHP) and he'll prob be fine. (Paul Sporer)
2013-07-29 11:00:00 (link to chat)2014 Phillies. Who gets the most-to-least big league plate appearances? Cody Asche, Maikel Franco, Freddy Galvis, Cesar Hernandez, Delmon Young, Michael Martinez?
(Broken Arrow from Far From Philly)
Cody Asche, just a hunch no real thing to back that up. (Zach Mortimer)
2013-07-02 13:00:00 (link to chat)Why is it that it seems someone is always ready to trade Matt Garza? He's a winning,reliable starter where ever he goes.
(John from CT)
I've never heard of him as a superb clubhouse guy if that even means anything, but I don't really think it's that. It's mostly just a small sample of teams. Tampa Bay did it because that's what Tampa Bay does, and the Cubs did it because it's that time in their franchise trajectory. I'm not really sure what happened in Minnesota, but I think they just viewed Delmon Young as more of a player than he's become.

He'll command a good package of prospects, and I would ascribe it more to circumstance on a few occasions than anything about him. (Zachary Levine)
2013-05-07 13:00:00 (link to chat)Which former Rays outfield prospect will have the better year? BJ Upton, Josh Hamilton, Delmon Young, or Rocco Baldelli?
(Tim from NYC)
Elijah Dukes. (Paul Sporer)
2013-04-04 11:00:00 (link to chat)A baseball writer just put a Delmon Young comp (as a downside) on Taveras. Please tell me that's not accurate former prospect comp?
(johnorpheus from st. louis)
It's not a comp I would use. As a floor, Taveras could be a contact heavy hitter that doesn't walk a lot, but they aren't really similar players and the makeup isn't the same. It's a little too casual for my tastes. (Jason Parks)
2013-04-23 13:00:00 (link to chat)After some underwhelming performances by current starters, do you see players like Avasail Garcia, who's ready to start a rehab assignment, or Anthony Gose carving out a significant role this season? Who are your favorite "waitin' in the wings for an opportunity" players currently? Thanks...
(LoyalRoyal from Kansas)
Sorry to say that Wil Myers tops the list as he finishes out his sentence in service time prison.

In the NL, I've heard good things on the outfielder the Phillies have come up the pipeline in A ball. I think this Delmon Young kid could do some things if only given the chance. (Zachary Levine)
2013-02-27 20:00:00 (link to chat)Thoughts on Morosi's prediction for PHI to finish ahead of ATL?
(BOO-URN from parts unknown)
It seems silly, though last year at this time if you told me the Phillies were going to be a .500 team I would have thought you were huffing chemicals. Realistically, the Phillies would need a lot to go right for this to happen. If Roy Halladay returns to Cy Young form, then maybe the Phillies are an 87 win team. At that point, some combination of a breakout by Dom Brown or Darin Ruf, a full, healthy, and productive season by Ryan Howard or Chase Utley and something resembling a 2-3 win season from Delmon Young or Michael Young could make it happen. But it seems to be asking a lot for all of things to happen in 2013. (Mike Gianella)
2013-02-15 12:00:00 (link to chat)For those who haven't seen, Padres prospect Rymer Liriano will haveTJS and will miss 6 months. Delmon Young to have micro-fracture surgery on ankle, will start season on DL. No wuestion, just sharing the news.
(AK from Phoenix)
Sucks with Liriano as he is one of my favorite prospects. Delmon Young is addition by subtraction for the Phillies. Now, I wonder if they'll coax Darren Daulton out of retirement to block Domonic Brown even further. (Jason Collette)
2013-02-15 12:00:00 (link to chat)Clarification on Delmon Young: He already HAD microfracture surgery, in November.
(Chris from KC)
He's still a terrible player and waste of talent. (Jason Collette)
2013-02-15 12:00:00 (link to chat)in an NL-only 12 team auction league, roughly how would you value Phillies outfielders? It seems crowded with mediocrity, unknowns and worse with Ben Revere, Delmon Young, Darin Ruf, John Mayberry Jr. Domonic Brown and Lance Nix. Any upside here?
(Broken Arrow from Texas)
Revere, Mayberry, Ruf, Brown, 50 feet of crap, Young. In all seriousness, the 1st 2 are the only ones I want to deal with. Ruf went undrafted in LABR which is 29 rounds and 15 teams for a mixed league. (Jason Collette)
2013-02-19 13:00:00 (link to chat)I'm working on my starting outfield for this season. Who should I play? 500 ABs to Ben Revere? How about Domonic Brown? John Mayberry Jr.? Is Delmon Young better than any of these guys? Where in the world is Shane Victorino?
(Charlie Manuel from the hills of West Virginia)
The only thing I'm fairly confident of is that Delmon is probably not better than any of those guys. Brown and Mayberry can platoon. Shane Victorino has gone to a happier place: the Red Sox clubhouse. (Ben Lindbergh)
2013-02-14 13:00:00 (link to chat)Is there a better salad dressing than Ranch? Also, when do you think the Nationals will come to their senses and put Harper in RF?
(Jeff Keppinger from Hidden Valley)
JEFF! You're accepting your nickname, very nice. Why do you care so much about the Nats? Don't you have some calisthenics to get to this afternoon? Not sure when they put him in RF, but it's not like they're putting Delmon Young in RF over him. He'd be better than Werth, but they can leave the vet there for a year. (Paul Sporer)
2013-02-05 13:00:00 (link to chat)Does Delmon Young count as a face-plant? I know he's had a long career, but dude was the TOP PROSPECT in baseball for a couple of years and now he's a punch-line.
(Name from Place)
No. He didn't live up to the hype, but he's played in 880 major league games and he's only a 27-years-old. That's pretty impressive, regardless of the production. (Jason Parks)
2013-01-31 13:00:00 (link to chat)My saber oriented Philly friend is howling at Rueben Amaro's off-season moves: Mike Young, Delmon Young, John Lannan, Chad Durbin, and the artist formely known as Yuniesky. In your humble opinion, are the Phillies actually moving forward, slamming on the accelator while in reverse, or simply stuck in neutral?
(Paul from DC)
They're not moving forward, far from it. They're not slamming on the accelerator either. I think they're trying to push it out of a ditch, if I had to pick any one automotive analogy. This is what happens when you extend Ryan Howard so far before free agency and only notice the skills you want to notice. Of the moves mentioned, the Lannan move bothers me the least. Or the Yuni NRI just because it's an NRI. (Zachary Levine)
2013-01-22 13:00:00 (link to chat)With all the young unproven OFer's the Phillies have, why even consider Delmon Young? He does not seem like a difference maker.
(Frahm from Getty)
Frahm, my guess is that teams still see some positives in Young's game that could translate into more production given his age. I tend to agree that he's not a different maker, but that's probably the reason. Whether that's the correct strategy for the Phillies to take depends on how they feel about those unproven outfielders. (R.J. Anderson)
2013-01-14 14:00:00 (link to chat)Do you think Delmon Young is a fit for the Blue Jays as a platoon partner for Adam Lind?
(Cam from Waterloo)
I'm not even sure if Delmon is good enough to be an asset as the short half of a platoon. Last year he had a .271 TAv against lefties, with a multi-year weighted TAv against them of .281. (You can see that in the "Splits" section of his player card.) Compare that to say, Scott Hairston, whom I'd rather have (.315 last year, .300 multi-year). Even if .281 is Delmon's true talent against southpaws, once you subtract his defense, his baserunning, and the fact that he'd be taking up a roster spot in a limited role, there's just not a lot of value left there. (Ben Lindbergh)
2012-11-13 13:00:00 (link to chat)Could you set us straight, please, about some slow right-handed sluggers: 1) Why are the Orioles pursuing Jonny Gomes, unless Nolan Reimold is not expected to fully recover? 2) Why would anyone want a 27 year old .700 OPS (last two seasons) player known for his miscues - Delmon Young, unless they are duped into thinking he's still going to be good based on a good week in the ALCS?
(John Carter from Toronto)
Good afternoon, John Carter. The Orioles-Gomes connection surfaced yesterday, and I touched on it in today's Rumor Roundup. A designated hitter platoon certainly isn't ideal, but Gomes has a track record of mashing left-handed pitching, so there's room for him to share that job with, say, Chris Davis, even if Reimold and Nick Markakis are healthy and playing full-time in the outfield corners.

As for Delmon, I think most teams will be smart enough to seek other options, so a rough landing might be in store. (Daniel Rathman)
2012-10-16 14:00:00 (link to chat)If they ever did a Die Hard prequel, do you think Delmon Young would be a perfect fit to fill Reginald Val Johnson's role? Never knew Carl Winslow played baseball or was a #1 overall draft pick.
(jlarsen from chicago)
Delmon Young started Game One of the ALCS with a strikeout and a pop up, and I mentally mocked him for looking old and out of shape and uncoordinated. Then he went 3-for-his-next 4 with a homer and a double (even if the double was mostly Nick Swisher losing the ball in the lights). I'm not going to make fun of him anymore. (Ben Lindbergh)
2012-06-29 13:00:00 (link to chat)If you are Dombrowski, do you prioritize plugging the hole at 2B, or replacing Boesch in RF? Or do you just pay what it takes to do both? Thank you.
(lemppi from Iowa)
You pay what it takes to fix both of those AND the DH slot, where Delmon Young is again the human embodiment of a gaping vortex of suck. It's probably more important to get strong defense out of second base than it is strong offense, but in order to get away with that you have to fill the other two holes. (Jay Jaffe)
2012-04-17 13:00:00 (link to chat)Ok, it's too early to be worried about a guy, is it too early to be excited about a player?
(basicslop from Albuquerque)
If a player is showing marked improvement in some fundamental aspect of his game -- like, if Delmon Young were suddenly drawing walks -- it's fair to be optimistic, sure. Citing a player's batting average or a pitcher's ERA in mid-April as the basis of an argument for player X "taking a step forward" is where you're likely to get into trouble. (Bradley Ankrom)
2012-01-24 13:00:00 (link to chat)With Betemit moving on coupled with V-Mart's injury and no real answer at 2B, how do you see AB's working out in Detroit for guys like Raburn, Santiago, Inge, etc??? Does Raburn turn into a super utility guy and garner 400+ AB's? And, in a OBP instead of BA 5x5 deep league is that a good or bad thing for his value?
(LoyalRoyal from Kansas)
Well, I think it's safe to assume that the Tigers will bring in a DH from outside the organization. There are a few available, and one should come relatively cheap. In the case that they don't and the roster stays as is until Opening Day, I think 1) Inge and Kelly split time at third and 2) Raburn and Santiago split time at second. The team would also need a DH, and it's possible they put Delmon Young there some days and let Raburn play LF. All in all, without any acquisitions, Raburn's PT projection would be upwards of 400-plus AB. Even if they get a DH like Damon or Vlad, Raburn is still probably looking at 350-400 AB. No matter what kind of league you're in (with the very rare exception), more at-bats = more value for a player, though Raburn would have less value in an OBP league than a BA league. (Derek Carty)
2012-01-18 13:00:00 (link to chat)Who is more likely to earn their ~$7M salary in 2012, Delmon Young or Josh Willingham?
(PepeShady from St Paul)
Josh Willingham is more likely to be a $7 million player in 2012. Delmon Young could still turn into a $17 million player, but he disappears for long stretches. -- Dave (Best of BP with Ben and Dave)
2011-12-14 13:00:00 (link to chat)What's up with Delmon Young?
(faztradamus from Bensonhurst)
Today? Probably just hanging out. (Jason Parks)
2011-08-17 13:00:00 (link to chat)How the heck did Delmon Young hit a HR for the Twins after he was traded to the Tigers?!
(ssimon from Pelham, NY)
Delmon Young has 0.2 WAR in his career, according to B-Ref's model, and half of that came from that one home run with Detroit. (Sam Miller)
2010-12-14 13:00:00 (link to chat)Hi Christina, Jason Kubel's full-season OPSes look like this: 785, 806, 908, 750. Is 2009 the outlier in the career of a thoroughly mediocre hitter at a corner-OF spot, or is 2010 an aberration in Kubel's climb towards something like stardom?
(Dan from Brooklyn)
As much as relying on a one-year park effect is a flimsy proposition, Target Field looks like it will squelch any shot he had at stardom; as was, it wasn't the strongest bid. If he winds up being a league-average placeholder in a corner, that's not chopped liver. The Sox have a similar issue in terms of what to expect of Carlos Quentin--he's had moments of excellence, but over several seasons, he's really just average. That's useful, as long as you have better elsewhere; the Twins do, not least if Delmon Young's upside finally nears accomplished fact instead of wishcast. (Christina Kahrl)
2010-10-01 13:00:00 (link to chat)My unsubstantiated observation is that free swinging young players (ie Pablo Sandoval, Delmon Young, etc) who don't take many walks peak earlier in their careers than others (Vlad would obviously be an exception). This would be the result of pitchers doing a better job of not giving them good pitches to hit. Do you think my hypothesis would bear out empirically? and can Carlos Gonzalez be an exception if that's indeed the case?
(Randy K from Kansas)
Walks are key for a few reasons. One, they're valuable in their own right. Two, they're a sign that a player is able to be selective, and won't swing at as many pitcher's pitches. When a player is younger, they can get away with it more, because they can compensate for it with good bat speed. (This is why walk rates tend to be one of the skills that peaks late.) As far as Carlos Gonzalez - his batting line is so, so weird. And it's hard to learn discipline when you're getting results like this. (Colin Wyers)
2010-07-09 13:00:00 (link to chat)Would you rather have BJ Upton or Delmon Young for the next decade? Seems like the Rays might not end up wanting either of them.
(Randy from Seattle)
Upton, easy. He's one of the best defensive center fielders in baseball, and while I wish he'd hit a bit more, you can't argue with his production. People like to put him down because they think he should be something greater than he is, but that misses the point. He's still valuable, and you can't ignore that. (Marc Normandin)
2010-07-09 13:00:00 (link to chat)Keep going; your chats rock. To shoehorn in a question: Delmon Young, over or under 20HR?
(sharkey from MPLS)
19-20 sounds right to me. I still wish he'd develop some patience, but this season is the first actual development he's had in years. (Marc Normandin)
2010-05-24 14:00:00 (link to chat)Combined MLB Career All-Star appearances for Delmon Young, Brandon Wood, Alex Gordon, and Andy Marte, 0.5, Over or Under?
(Susan from New York)
I'll go with an even number: one. I'll even be foolhardy, and take it one step further by saying that it'll be Gordon, because the silly contest requires participation from every team, no Royal is going to be elected by fans, and there's a chance of something like Greinke pitching on the Sunday beforehand or something and doesn't get selected. Of course, by that logic, it could be Young in a few years, once he gets to be a Royal; he's boxed out as a Twin unless he really breaks out, and I remain among the doubters on that score. (Christina Kahrl)
2010-04-08 14:00:00 (link to chat)Any chance Jason Heyward goes Delmon Young on us?
(EricJ from SF)
No. (Kevin Goldstein)
2010-03-03 14:00:00 (link to chat)Better chance of finally living up to the hype, Alex Gordon or Delmon Young?
(Ron from Vancouver)
I got a feeling about Delmon . . . (Kevin Goldstein)
2010-03-04 13:00:00 (link to chat)Gut feeling on Delmon Young?
(Rob from Alaska)
The feeling in my gut regarding him requires a Pepcid tablet. (Marc Normandin)
2010-02-23 13:00:00 (link to chat)Are you expecting big things from any of the former bigtime prospects that haven't really done much in the bigs yet? Alex Gordon, Delmon Young, Jeremy Hermida, Others?
(Aaron from YYZ)
Kevin is still high on Delmon, an enthusiasm I don't share, but you have to respect Guru Goldstein's feelings about these things so I'm keeping an open mind. If you check out the Hermida comment in the book, which I wrote, you'll see that I had high hopes for him to break out in Boston, but right now it seems like the playing time just won't be there. (Steven Goldman)
2010-02-18 14:00:00 (link to chat)Who are some guys that the general prospect community seems to have given up on that you still believe in?
(Aaron from YYZ)
They're big leaguers, but I still believe in Delmon Young, and even a little still in Alex Gordon. (Kevin Goldstein)
2010-02-09 13:00:00 (link to chat)Does a center fielder with great range affect the fielding numbers of his fellow outfielders? The situation I have in mind is the affect Carlos Gomez had over Denard Span on Cuddyer or Delmon Young. Thanks
(nils from minnesota)
Yes, of course, because there will be a lot of discretionary plays between two outfielders that the center fielder will claim even though either fielder can take it. That's going to have an effect on the numbers. It's not a problem that's confined to the outfield either - most fielding systems show some kind of effect based upon who your neighbors are.

One more reason why you should use multiple years of data to evaluate fielding, no matter which system you prefer. (Jay Jaffe)
2010-01-28 14:00:00 (link to chat)howdy! signing thome, does it means kubel rf, cuddyer 3b, punto/casilla 2b?
(mo from las vegas)
I'll be going into this a bit in tomorrow's TA, since I expect Thome's deal and looking at the Twins' lineup options will be the most interesting part (Miguel Cairo's becoming a Red menace notwithstanding), but that would be one possible permutation. However, that would also mean complete faith in Delmon Young, which might be a tough proposition, nice September or not. (Christina Kahrl)
2009-12-15 14:00:00 (link to chat)Which BJ Upton do you think we see in 2010? I say this is the breakout where the glimpses of greatness far outweigh the stretches of inconsistency - thoughts?
(Walter from Tampa Bay)
Talk about one of the most maddening players in the game today. If you had to pick between Upton, Chris B. Young, and Delmon Young, I might still pick Upton as the most frustrating, not just because he's been frustrating for longer, but because of those same flashes of greatness and the expectation that there's a big corner that, once turned, will give us one of the game's best stars. At this point, he's not even Darryl Strawberry or Darin Erstad, former standards of high expectations not meeting actual performance as often as we might have liked. Which is the problem--if he "only" gets back to his 2008 level of production, people will keep anticipating more, when that's very good. That said, he's only just heading into his age-25 season, so I think there are more years like 2007 in him. I just don't expect it to be flipped on, like a switch. (Christina Kahrl)
2009-11-19 13:00:00 (link to chat)Bill Smith says he expects that Ron Gardenhire will keep Nick Punto in the lineup somewhere. This guy is supposed to be Gardenhire's boss. Can't he make him see sense? I'm tired of this cycle where Punto is handed an opening day job, fails miserably, gets replaced by even worse players, gets the job back for the last month, hits decently, and gets a job again the next year. And since it also seems that the Twins are considering bringing back Joe Crede at third or Orlando Cabrera at second (in order to keep Punto somewhere), which is the better alternative? Finally, wouldn't someone like Felipe Lopez be great for the Twins?
(russadams from Target Center)
I'm not sure Nick Punto is so much the problem as an inability to put real players at third base and left field is the problem. If Punto can bat ninth, hit what he hits and play plus defense, he's an acceptable solution on a team with seven or eight actual hitters. Punto is better, relative to his position, than Delmon Young or the collective nightmare at third base or what Alexi Casilla (who I like) did this year. Focusing on him and not those problems is a mistake.

Lopez is a good player who brings more offense than defense, and that's always been a good path to the bench in Minnesota. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-10-28 14:00:00 (link to chat)When can you declare a former top prospect a bust? Are Delmon Young, Alex Gordon, and Jay Bruce busts?
(Ron from Vancouver)
I think a player's first year of arbitration eligibility is a good point of reckoning, because it's at that point where they start to cost real money instead of something closer to the major league minimum. Not that it's the final word, but it's certainly when a team has to start considering how much future investment a player is worth.

By that token, I'd call Young a bust. Gordon's at three years of service, too, but he gets a pass because of injury. Bruce has at least another year before that point is reached, because he's probably going to be short of where the Super Two line is in 2010. (Jay Jaffe)
2009-10-13 14:00:00 (link to chat)Had Delmon not hit some home runs during the last week of the season, the Blue Jays might have been able to get him for one of them pitchers.
(russadams from Target (not field))
You might still, and if you have a magic unscrambulator that guarantees that's the Delmon Young you get, it might be worth putting up with the many negatives. (Christina Kahrl)
2009-10-09 13:30:00 (link to chat)Will Delmon Young ever be a productive baseball player? His pitch recognition was always a question mark, but he's shown little power, and it seems even his arm is less than advertised.
(ashitaka from long beach, ca)
I might be insane, but that last stretch of the season left me pretty optimistic, and if I did play fantasy baseball, I'd want him next year. (Kevin Goldstein)
2009-10-09 13:30:00 (link to chat)Didn't Delmon Young have all of 2 unintentional BBs from late August through the end of September? ... that guy left you feeling optimistic?
(glenihan from nyc)
Walks are very important, walks are NOT the end all be all. You can be a good player with a bad walk rate. It doesn't make you AS good of a player, but it happens. You have to be pretty special, like an early career Alfonso Soriano or Vlad. Walks are not a pre-requisite of being good. You obviously want them, but you can't take it to the point where if a player doesn't walk he stinks. (Kevin Goldstein)
2009-10-07 14:30:00 (link to chat)What typr of player with Delmon Young be 5 years from now ? If not for the 50 something games he sat out this year, its not crazy to think that he could have hit .290-18-80.
(William from Orange Beach, AL)
Yes, Young might have approached those triple crown numbers, but given his plate discipline (92/12 K/BB this year), all that would tell you is that triple crown numbers do a poor job of telling you what a disappointment he is. .284/.308/.425 isn't remotely acceptable for a 23-year-old corner outfielder with his caliber of tools, and I don't know if he's ever going to fulfill the promise that the scouts saw in him a few years back. Five year's from now we'll be watching him hang on for dear life to a major league career. (Jay Jaffe)
2009-10-06 13:30:00 (link to chat)I was chatting with a fellow Jays fan last night, and we're very hopeful the team trades a couple of arms for OF fliers, a la the Quentin move by Kenny Williams the other winter. Obviously, that's a tough act to follow, but who would be good fits for that tactic? We came up with Milledge, Dukes, Pie, Delmon Young, and Chris Young. Which pitchers would or should go? Which OFs here are the most realistic and best targets? Are we overlooking someone?
(Jim Clancy from Exhibition Stadium)
I'd say the most likely to be available are Dukes, Pie and Delmon Young. If I were the Jays, I'd dangle Purcey since they another lefty in Rzepcynski. (John Perrotto)
2009-09-29 13:00:00 (link to chat)With all the outcry over Joba rules 2.0, what do you think the Yankees do with Hughes? I think he's at about 120 innings between majors and minors,so they'll have the same issue with him next year (not helped by Girardi's use of him). Also, if Girardi won't play Gardner over Melky, is there any use to having Freddy Guzman on the post-season roster?
(sprechs from Brooklyn)
With Guzman, they're looking for a David Roberts '04 moment. I guess if the A's won a World Series with Herb Washington on the bench the Yankees can survive having Guzman around. With Hughes, I imagine they slide him in at #5 and skip days wherever possible. I am not looking forward to the endless second-guessing the first time David Robertson blows a lead in the eighth inning.

...Delmon Young, up with the bases loaded, might be my least favorite player in the major leagues. (Steven Goldman)
2009-09-08 13:00:00 (link to chat)Should the Ray look into trading B.J. Upton as opposed to Carl Crawford in the offseason with Desmond Jennings on the way? It just seems like even with Upton's shoulder issues as an excuse for his poor play that he never really took it upon himself to make the adjustments that could make him a standout as opposed to someone who has tons of potential. He SCREAMS Delmon Young to me.
(Tim from Tampa)
Or, even with his poor bat this year, he's been worth a few wins this year because of his fantastic defense in center. Plus, what could you get for Upton given his poor bat as of late? I would give it another year to see what happens--he's still young. You could pull back more by dealing Crawford. Upton was worth almost five wins in 2008, despite the bat issues. (Marc Normandin)
2009-09-08 13:00:00 (link to chat)"Upton SCREAMS Delmon Young"....tim from tampa hasn't been watching much of Delmon Young. that guy is a train wreck in the field.
(cjbuet from madison, wi)
At least trains take logical routes from point A to point B. (Marc Normandin)
2009-08-25 13:00:00 (link to chat)Could Delmon Young finally be showing up? Hitting some bombs and getting consistent PT seems to help.
(Cuddy from St. Paul)
Two walks in 75 August PA. No. He's hitting .233 since he more or less got back in the lineup. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-08-28 13:00:00 (link to chat)What is wrong with Delmon Young? What do you think his ultimate ceiling will be?
(Josh from NYC)
I think he's just not as good as all the hype that surrounded him being the first overall pick. For me, he's just a tick above average. In a good year, he might hit .280 with 20 homers and 80 RBIs. I'm not a big fan, as you can tell. (John Perrotto)
2009-08-21 14:00:00 (link to chat)I know he technically isn't a prospect, but do you think Delmon Young's recent "awakening" is real?
(heeler from Peoria, IL)
I don't know, I want to think so, as I've never understood why he didn't take off, but we have so many bad things to make up for still. (Kevin Goldstein)
2009-08-04 14:00:00 (link to chat)Who do you think should be the starter at second base for the Twins? I know it's like choosing the lesser of two evils, but I don't really want to see Nick Punto flail away at pitches no where close to the strike zone. Also, why in the world was Delmon Young a #1 Prospect, and who should be playing left field for us?
(twinkies25 from MN)
I would hope they'd just lock in and place their faith in Casilla. Punto's a better utility infielder than a starter, and I'm reluctant to get worked up in Brendan Harris' behalf when he isn't hitting and concerns over his defense up the middle dog him with a certain persistence. Failing a commitment to Casilla, they should have asked the A's for Adam Kennedy. It's never too late to ask after David Eckstein, for that matter, and he'd go over well in the Twin Cities, methinks. (Christina Kahrl)
2009-07-13 14:00:00 (link to chat)Is you opinion of francouer deal at all connected to you being bearish about him two years ago? Seems silly to start Omir Santos regularly and play Fernando Tatis fairly often AND acquire Jeff Francouer. Delmon Young could have been gotten without helping a division foe.
(jcalixte from new york)
Jeez, Delmon Young is one of the few guys worse than Francoeur. At least Francoeur plays a good right field. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-06-08 14:00:00 (link to chat) Should Delmon Young be thought of the same as Francouer?
(scottziegler from Beaver Dam, WI)
He hasn't failed for quite as long, nor quite as badly. He's younger, too. We do need to see something in the next 800 AB or so. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-06-05 15:30:00 (link to chat)J. Upton the best offensive OF in the game in 2 years?
(ryan from west chester)
If not the best, top three definitely, unless he goes all Delmon Young on us. (Eric Seidman)
2009-05-18 14:00:00 (link to chat)Is it safe to write-off Delmon Young as a bust?
(Reggie from Montgomery)
Well, I hate to rush these things; for every David Green, you might find a guy like Milton Bradley or Brandon Phillips. There might be factors in play here that only time and hard experience might iron out, so I wouldn't put this on the Twins. (Christina Kahrl)
2009-03-03 13:00:00 (link to chat)Who's the odd man out in the Minn. outfield? Related to this, I have to choose between C. Crisp and C. Gomez. Price is the same. Gomez has more upside. Crisp is more a sure thing -- even if it isn't all that exciting. thoughts?
(Jay from Madison)
I was hoping that the Twins' depth chart at would be of some assistance, but it looks like that has me as confused as I was when I went there. Delmon Young looks like a backup, with Cuddyer in RF, Kubel at DH, Gomez in center and Span in left. Gomez probably won't be affected too much by the position battle in left, though he could lose occasional at-bats to Span along the way. We'll see how this shapes up as the spring goes on. (Marc Normandin)
2009-03-06 14:00:00 (link to chat)So who loses out in the Twins OF/DH situation?
(Tim from Green Bay)
I don't see Tony Oliva getting many at-bats at all.

I have questions about every single player in that bunch - Delmon Young, Carlos Gomez, Denard Span, Jason Kubel, Mike Cuddyer - and particularly the first two, given their inabilities to get on base consistently. (Jay Jaffe)
2009-02-06 13:00:00 (link to chat)"I'd like to hear what their excuse for not making a run at signing Adam Dunn is" We have Carlos Gomez, who even though he runs around like a chicken with its head cut off, plays defense! We have Denard Span, who despite having his best year ever last year after years of crap in the minors, we are sure will get better! We have Mike Cuddyer, who does magic tricks in the clubhouse and throws hard! We have Jason Kubel, who showed grit by coming back from an injury! We have Jason Pridie and Luis Matos in AAA, and they both can run fast! We already have the worthless Delmon Young, who I'll trade for a bowling ball! Why add another guy that won't play the Twins way?
(Ron Gardenhire from Metrodome)
I don't know that I can add anything to that except, "Also, he costs money."

...Jim in PA, email me with your bona fides. (Steven Goldman)
2008-12-11 14:00:00 (link to chat)Do you think Delmon Young will be back and, if so, how much will he play (Gardenhire's comments notwithstanding).
(Swen from Minneapolis)
I get the strong feeling the Twins would prefer to play Denard Span and trade Young. (John Perrotto)
2008-12-04 13:30:00 (link to chat)I'm not sold on getting rid of Delmon Young yet to make room for Denard Span. What would you do if you were Twins GM?
(paulbellows from Calgary)
The Twins could really use good players on the left side on the infield and some OBP. Young doesn't do either, and while his peak seasons are going to be impressive, he's never going to be one of the best hitters in baseball. Find the team that sees the BA and power potential, doesn't see the so-so defense/positional value or lack of walks, and convert him. It's not "to make room for Denard Span," so much as it is to make the overall talent better, to win more games. That deal may not be there, but I'd certainly try and find it. (Joe Sheehan)
2008-12-04 13:30:00 (link to chat)Who's the best option for the Reds to sign or trade for in left field: Milton Bradley, Jermaine Dye, Willie Harris, Delmon Young, or someone else?
(Mister Redlegs from Athens, GA)
I have a thing somewhere half-written...five FAs I wouldn't sign...Bradley's on the list. He's not durable, doesn't/can't really play the OF any longer, coming off a peak season. He was a good player at bouncing-around prices; at some 3/35 price, I'd pass. What about moving Encarnacion out there and getting a third baseman instead? Edwin's defense is that bad, no? (Joe Sheehan)
2008-12-04 13:30:00 (link to chat)Why are the Twins so willing to unload Delmon Young after only one season? Follow-up: what's the trade value for him--someone like Homer Bailey, or more like Matt Cain (or Matt Garza)?
(Scott from Detroit)
Argh. Got a call and lost my answer to this...his value is between them, but if the Twins trade for a pitcher, Smith should be fired. Sand to the beach, and all that. (Joe Sheehan)
2008-12-04 13:30:00 (link to chat)Jason Donald plus a little more for Delmon Young to replace Pat the Bat? Did you see Donald play in Arizona?
(Jay from Philly)
Tweener. The glove's a bit shy for shortstop, the bat's not great for 2B or 3B. I wouldn't trade Young for him, although it's an interesting idea. (Joe Sheehan)
2008-12-05 14:00:00 (link to chat)Has Ron Gardenhire screwed the Twins? He came out and said that his outfield is Denard Span, Carlos Gomez, and Michael Cuddyer, and that there is no room for Delmon Young in it. That really improves the team's leverage in trade discussions. I'm also interested in your opinion on Young. In Minnesota, it seems like most people hate him (for example, when he didn't get angry about Gardenhire's comments, many are saying that he just doesn't care about anything), but how about an outsider's view?
(russadams from Minnesota)
Ideally you'd certainly like your manager to shut his pie hole about such things, but if it's in the news it was probably being whispered somewhere anyway.

I honestly have no idea what to make of Young yet, beyond the fact that his plate discipline and power are a lot further off than originally thought, and that he's Blind Wily Mo Pena bad in the outfield. Still, he's going on 23 and has the raw tools that made him a top prospect, if perhaps a makeup that's something of a negative. I don't think he's worth dumping for the sake of dumping if I'm the Twins unless he's a truly noxious presence.

Two more and then I've got to run... (Jay Jaffe)
2008-07-30 12:30:00 (link to chat)huge question here: which is more likely going forward? Chris Young hits for average or Delmon Young hits for power?
(Jed from San Francisco)
Chris Young hits for average. I've never been as bid on Delmon Young as a lot of others. (John Perrotto)
2008-06-23 12:00:00 (link to chat)Hear about Matt Garza seeing a renowned sports psychologist? Do you think he's as "excitable" as Carlos Zambrano or did the Rays just replace one hot-head(Dukes or Delmon, take your pick) for another?
(jlarsen from DRays Bay)
Yeah, I read that. I don't think he is in Elijah Dukes' class (I mean who is? Not even Milton Bradley) or will do something as dumb as Delmon Young did in Class AAA. I'd say he's "excitable" like the Big Z. (John Perrotto)
2008-06-17 15:00:00 (link to chat)Who puts up better numbers here on out - Justin Upton or Delmon Young?
(graffblood from Saint Paul)
Upton. Upton, Upton, Upton, Upton, Upton. Upton. (Jay Jaffe)
2008-05-27 13:00:00 (link to chat)Hey Nate, Do you see any similarity between Jay Bruce and Delmon Young? #1 prospects with good power, avg, arm, but with poor plate discipline. Do you see Bruce turning out any better than Young?
(Nick from NYC)
I think that's shortchanging Bruce a bit. His power has been a standard deviation or two better than Delmon's. (Nate Silver)
2008-05-22 13:00:00 (link to chat)Are we getting to the point where managers are going to start worrying about playing time for position players just as much as for pitch count and starting pitchers? The leader in consecutive games played right now is Delmon Young with a little more than 200. Is that the shortest active consecutive games streak for any point in the last 50 years?
(Brock D from Shakopee, MN)
No, I don't think so. I just think we've shifted a bit to where we realize those streaks are both freakshows and really unimportant. Would Cal Ripken have been a better or worse player if he'd taken a couple days off a year? Not by much either way. (Will Carroll)
2008-04-25 15:00:00 (link to chat)Back when the Rays were shopping Delmon Young there appeared to be some talk of Young for Cliff Lee, but nothing came of it. Knowing what the Rays got in return and Lee's hot start which deal would have been better for the Rays?
(Tommy from OPS,FL)
Long-term, I'd still take Matt Garza over Cliff Lee, and it wouldn't cost me a moment of sleep.
Rany Jazayerli has a great Unfiltered post about Lee's hot start, a post that includes a note form Joe Sheehan regarding the quality of competition Lee has faced: "A's twice, Twins, Royals. Ninth, 13th and 14th in the AL in EqA." Right now Lee is living off a .151 BABIP, and that's not going to last forever by any stretch of the imagination. Furthermore, sooner or later he's going to have to face some competent lineups, and when he does, you can expect his ERA to get fluffed up. The bottom line is that I don't expect him to be a significantly better pitcher than the mid-rotation inning eater who surprised us with his bellyflop last year. (Jay Jaffe)
2008-04-17 13:00:00 (link to chat)Nate, who would you rather have on your real baseball team over the next 15 years, Delmon Young or Jeremy Hermida? Thanks! Jason
(Jason Golub from NYC)
Young, but only because of Hermida's propensity to hurt himself. (Nate Silver)
2008-03-26 12:00:00 (link to chat)Last year Delmon Young struggled with his plate discipline and rate stats, but he did play every day, have 190 hits and showed some power with 40 doubles at the age of 22. Was last year encouraging or discouraging? Is he on the Reyes path to greatness?
(Randy from TN)
That's a good question, encouraging or discouraging? I still think he is going to be a great player, and hopefully he has learned something between two organizations and a full season. I am going to say last season was encouraging, but not totally. He's going to be good. (Bryan Smith)
2008-03-18 17:00:00 (link to chat)Jim, how much will the Twins lose (offensively and defensively) with Delmon Young in CF instead of Torii Hunter thsi year?
(Brandon from College Station, TX)
I'm afraid this is going to be the last question. I have to get to the gym and stand around looking like a give a damn about my health.

There will be some dropoff, but not as much as you would expect. I won't say this is Young's breakout season, but he's going to be vastly improved. I think his WARP3 will climb to the 5.0 range while Hunter was in the mid-7.0s last year. The Twins could have done a lot worse! (Jim Baker)
2008-03-07 13:00:00 (link to chat)So how did the Rays go from projected 83 wins to 89 wins now? Is this a change in the projection system, or a change in the Rays (or in their opponents)?
(collins from greenville nc)
That's a great question, and in this case it has a pretty simple answer. On the first version of PECOTA that we do each year, we make a very simple assumption about a team's defense -- namely, that the defense will be the same as it was last year, regressed to the mean last year. The Rays had a very, very bad defense in 2007, involving experiments like Brendan Harris playing shortstop, B.J. Upton playing second base, and Delmon Young playing center field. So, that was flowing through into the ERAs of each of the pitchers.

But in the second version of the PECOTAs, we instead project defense based on the individual defensive projections from our depth chart starting lineups. And we actually expect the Rays to have a slightly *above average* defense this year, particuarly given the addition of Jason Bartlett. So this turned out to make a huge difference at the margins. And there's a hidden benefit too, which is that it actually increases the innings pitched projections for the starting pitchers, which means fewer innings from the back end of their bullpen. (Nate Silver)
2008-03-06 13:00:00 (link to chat)What's with all these New Yorkers... :) Who between Adam Jones and Delmon Young do you think will have the better career?
(Da Coach from Chicago)
I'd go with Jones for the following reasons:

1. he's still a center fielder

2. he'll be playing his pre-arb years in a much better hitters' park (at least until Monty Burns Stadium opens)

3. unless I've missed something, it doesn't appear he's got the makeup issues that Delmon has.

FWIW, PECOTA has him at a 241 upside over the next five years, Young at 190.8. (Jay Jaffe)
2008-01-31 13:00:00 (link to chat)I find it interesting that Votto stole 20 bases twice in minors, and yet some projectors say he won't steal any in majors in 2008 (I also think about Josh Fields). I am aware he doesn't have great speed and was caught very often. Does it happen that great prospects in a system are allowed to do things--like steal bases--with impunity because of their status as great prospects, and then once they reach the majors a manager puts the brakes on that part of their game?
(Bob from St Louis)
It does happen quite a bit acutally. There are going to be times in his big league career when you're gonna need Votto to run, so they best way to learn that is to have him run. A good comparision here is Delmon Young, who had 20-plus stolen bases in each of his minor league seasons, but just 10 last year in the big leagues. (Kevin Goldstein)

BP Roundtables

DateRoundtable NameComment
2010-10-06 10:00:002010 Playoffs Day OneI thought Delmon Young got a piece of that with his bat at first, but the replay shows it bounced right off of Posada's glove. Baseballs take a funny bounce when they strike iron like that. (Marc Normandin)
2010-10-06 10:00:002010 Playoffs Day OneFolks, that's why Delmon Young was a -15 FRAA this year. (Steven Goldman)
2010-10-06 10:00:002010 Playoffs Day OneDelmon Young, redefining the art of left. (Christina Kahrl)
2010-10-06 10:00:002010 Playoffs Day OneAgreed Christina. The Rays did a good job of casting off their awful fielding OF. *cough* Delmon Young *cough* (Brandon Warne)
2010-04-05 09:30:00Season Opener RoundtableTwins tie it on a Delmon Young single and SB, JJ Hardy groundout and Nick Punto Sac Fly. Announcers proclaim yet another example of Twins "doing the little things" and "playing winning baseball." Who had 10:32 p.m. CDT in the "First Sighting Of The AL Central's Most Overly Sentimental And Inaccurate Cliche" pool? (Ken Funck)
2010-04-05 09:30:00Season Opener RoundtableWell, Delmon Young begins the process of proving that Kevin Goldstein's trust in him was well placed. (Dan Wade)
2010-04-05 09:30:00Season Opener RoundtableFor all those Delmon Young believers, he just went yard for the Twins. Two-run drive into the home bullpen. So is this the year he fulfills the promise? (Steph Bee)
2010-04-05 09:30:00Season Opener RoundtableHi gang, I'm in. Been switching back and forth between the game and "It Happens Every Spring".

As to Delmon Young - he posted translated EQAs of .265 in the minors in 2004-2006, and he's still posting EQAs of .260ish now. The hype on him was about someone that good at that age and expecting him to get better - and he hasn't gotten any better.

We talk about an age 27 peak - but that's only for players who have the capacity to learn and improve, which is true of most major leaguers. An awful lot of baseball players don't have that skill, but very few of them have the raw skill to make it to the majors without it, and wash out in the minors. (clay)
2010-04-05 09:30:00Season Opener Roundtable"OfficeDespot (NorCal): What do you think happened to dim Delmon Young's star, and will he rebound this year?"

I think his lack of performance at the major league level is what's dimmed his star. At some point you actually have to apply potential to actually winning ballgames.

Which isn't to say he can't. He's still young (no pun intended). But I don't know that it's the most likely scenario. (Colin Wyers)
2009-10-16 13:00:00NLCS Game Two/ALCS Game Onejwillie (Mpls): Would the Twins be wise to ship Delmon Young to the Cubs for Milton Bradley in a malcontent swap? Bradley would fit perfectly in the #2 spot for the Twins and he could take turn with Kubel DHing and playing the field. The Twins need more patience and less free swingers.

I am of the firm belief that the Twins should ship Delmon Young anywhere. If the Cubs make that deal, they might as well not bother showing up next year as the blow to their already-shaky offense will be fatal. And their defense. And their beer sales. (Steven Goldman)
2008-09-30 16:30:00Twins/White Sox Play-In GameThe Twins hitters are just giving Danks a reason to stay in the game. This is kind of sad to watch, honestly. Six pitches last inning, and Delmon Young swings at the first pitch with just six outs to go. (Marc Normandin)
2008-09-30 16:30:00Twins/White Sox Play-In GameDelmon Young caught it on the warning track after losing it in the lights, then seemed to panic that the guy on first was tagging. Then he realized it was Jim Thome, who is an honorary Molina ... (Will Carroll)

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