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|2020-04-03 13:00:00 (link to chat)||Hi Jesse, can you please talk about your draft prep process for redraft and new dynasty leagues, and adjustments you typically find you’re making through the draft?|
(Ben from Quarantine )
|I first address the league size and scoring and make necessary adjustments to rankings/projections. Then, I analyze each position group and find players underrated in that particular format against ADP and circle/highlight those players.
Once draft order is determined, I try to figure out who may fall to my various picks based on ADP and when to target the highlighted players. Still, I tend to take best player available for awhile. In redraft roto, I want to acquire a SP with one of my first 3 picks normally. In dynasty, I normally enter the draft with a plan (i.e., 27 and under, 25 and under) and shape my early picks around that plan. I always want to compete and I do not believe in the prospects-only and tank approach to a dynasty startup, even if it can be quite successful.
As the draft progresses, I try to go with the flow. If everyone is taking pitchers, I want to make sure I do not miss out even if there is better value elsewhere. Granted, I also try to avoid reaches at all costs, but sometimes you just have to get your guy. Hell, I took Mike Soroka at 64th overall in Prospects 365's Expert Dynasty League last November. Had to get my guy there.
Flexibility is crucial in all drafts. Your draft board will change and you may find yourself passing on the top guy on your board for several rounds. Just because a player is atop your board, does not mean you need to take him. Too often owners take a player in, say, Round 6 that they could have taken in Round 10. (Jesse Roche)
|2020-02-28 13:00:00 (link to chat)||Who are some pitchers you're targeting in dynasty for contending teams that have a killer offense but meh staff. Im headlined by Bauer Greinke Marquez Woodruff with solid closers in a 14 tm 31 active 15 minors h2h roto. Have a ton of ammo in the minors to spend.|
(Chansen8895 from Salt Lake City)
|Target the olds (Scherzer, Verlander, Morton, Darvish, Price, etc.). They come at an age-related discount in dynasty leagues and can provide excellent short-term production. If you want arms with more staying power (youth) absent the high cost of players like Jack Flaherty, then I like Mike Soroka, Frankie Montas, Max Fried, Zac Gallen, Julio Urias, and even Dylan Cease. (Jesse Roche)|
|2020-02-14 13:00:00 (link to chat)||Just took over a squad in a 20 team dynasty league. Was offered Dylan Carlson for Mike Soroka, would you do that deal? My SP are not good/deep, but I can’t compete this year anyways. Thoughts please?|
(Donnell from Washington, DC)
|I love Soroka and I am more lukewarm on Carlson compared to others so I am probably not the person to ask. Since you did ask me, I would not do it, but it is a fair trade, especially for a rebuilding club. Maybe try to target higher upside pieces than Carlson for Soroka as set forth in my Ceiling-Based Top 101. (Jesse Roche)|
|2020-02-14 13:00:00 (link to chat)||What is your general approach to pitching in a 12-team roto dynasty startup assuming the minor league draft is already out of the way? Thinking X pitchers by Y round
What is your dynasty startup approach in general? Are you all in it to win early championships, draft young and try to build a super team, or thread the needle and take the middle ground?|
(MK from Houston)
|I normally avoid pitching early in dynasty startups. Pitching is risky and deep, especially in 12-team formats. My strategy varies league-to-league, but I tend to aim to capture 27-or-younger value throughout with a preference for 25-or-younger. I do not employ the tanking strategy that some do. I want to always be competitive while building my farm through waivers and the draft. My goal is to try to always win, though maybe not in year 1 unless things fall right. For example, my first 7 picks in P365XDL this offseason were: Trevor Story (27), Jose Ramirez (27), Josh Bell (27), Mike Soroka (22), Gary Sanchez (27), Josh Hader (26), and Forrest Whitley (22). If I had to do it over again, I may have done things a bit differently, but my team is in a position to win and be competitive over many years. You can see the draft results here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oOr5RHFObDBt6fZPegvhLW5EDie7XYXYu4OvAMDoRp0/edit?usp=sharing (Jesse Roche)|
|2019-11-08 13:00:00 (link to chat)||Here are the things that worry me about young SP... Under 6 feet, small build, increasing reliance on slider, lack of innings built up specifically more than 160 back to back years, basically everything I worry about in a young SP is Deivi Garcia.....Can he be a legit SP or will he not hold up injury wise and end up in pen?|
(brad from NJ)
|Almost no pitching prospects throw 160 back to back in the minors now. Maybe Mike Soroka or Dustin May were close. But yeah, I was slow to get on the Garcia wagon (Jarrett had to talk me into ranking him as highly as we did last year) for all of those reasons. Ultimately the stuff is the stuff, and he's not that slider reliant anyway, I assume he was working it in more as a new pitch development thing. Anyway, you wouldn't go broke betting on most pitching prospects to end up relievers. (New York Yankees Top 10 Chat)|
|2019-10-04 14:15:00 (link to chat)||How are the Mets going to solve their crowded roster? In particular j.d. Davis the bat seems to work -the glove not so much. Will he get regular playing time?|
(Mel queen from Cincinnat)
|He should play 3 to 4 times a week, 400-500 PA a year. Stay away from the Mike Soroka's and Aaron Nola's of the world. (Jeffrey Paternostro)|
|2019-06-12 20:00:00 (link to chat)||I know Mike Soroka is not Greg Maddux. With that said, is Mike Soroka the closest thing we've seen to young Greg Maddux in a long time? I can't think of another young pitcher this good with the type of command-over-stuff with perfectly decent stuff profile that's come along in the recent past.|
(Peter from Durham, NC)
|It gets really tricky to try and peg "command over stuff" guys. I recently wrote about Kyle Hendricks, and he certainly fits the bill of a top-level starters -- seriously, go look at Hendricks' numbers -- who is doing it without eye-popping velocity. But no one is touching Maddux numbers except for the Max Scherzers of the world, and it's a bit too early to give Soroka that type of label, either. His results HAVE however been amazing and I love the way he pitches.
The visual of Soroka's two-seamer and slider is one of the game's great illustrations of the concept of tunneling -- of which Maddux was an important proponent -- and a joy to watch as hitters guess and fail. Could he keep up some sort of level to be an elite pitcher? Yeah, I'm beginning to think it's possible. But Maddux-ian numbers and performance take a long time to establish. For now, the aesthetic similarities will have to be enough, but feel free to relish them. It's very fun. (Zach Crizer)
|2019-05-01 12:00:00 (link to chat)||Thanks for the good work. Thoughts on Nate Pearson? Does he start climbing the rankings, or not until he shows what he can do in AA and/or more IP than the 5/2/5/2 show? |
(earpbartman from WC)
|A full healthy season probably gets it done even if he's used somewhat conservatively. No one throws a ton of innings in the minors other than Mike Soroka I guess. Anyway the stuff is good enough that just 100 innings in 2019 assuages some of our concerns. (Jeffrey Paternostro)|
|2019-04-26 16:00:00 (link to chat)||Who a waiver wire pitcher in a 15 team league with limited add/drops that may be useful for the next 5 months? Homer?|
(Vic from Baltimore)
|Ugh, Homer. He waited until I shouted his name from the mountain tops before he turned back into Homer Bailey. I still like him, though, as the profile has gotten better.
In that range-ish, I'd also take a look at Frankie Montas, Mike Soroka and Pablo Lopez. Jordan Lyles has also been interesting so far in Pittsburgh. Sonny Gray is also somehow available on a lot of sites, and he probably shouldn't be. (Mark Barry)
|2019-04-12 16:00:00 (link to chat)||who do you think are the next two/three impact pitchers to come up?|
(matt from MD)
|Does Mike Soroka count? I know he already made his debut, so perhaps not, but I don't think it'll be too long before he works his way back into this Braves rotation.
If not then I think Jesus Luzardo is in the big leagues as soon as the A's are confident he's fully recovered from his injury. It wouldn't surprise me if Angels soon decide that they could really use Griffin Canning, who had a nice first start of the year at Triple-A. Whitley is the wild card - I could see him being up in a few weeks or staying down for 3 or 4 months. (Darius Austin)
|2018-09-12 13:00:00 (link to chat)||Who has a better career? Mike Soroka or Lucas Giolito?|
(Jason from St. Charles)
|I'll take Giolito, just based on Soroka's injury history. And his current 60-day-DL status. (Mark Barry)|
|2018-08-29 19:00:00 (link to chat)||Lucas Giolito or Mike Soroka long term? And is this the slam dunk it seemed to be in May? |
(Jason from St. Charles)
|This is a hard question to answer. Soroka is done for the season and Giolito is surging. I'm leaning Giolito for now because his stuff is back and he's getting good results with it (and I still can't ignore his pedigree). (Eddy Almaguer)|
|2018-05-11 13:00:00 (link to chat)||Do you think Franchy Cordero is the the real deal, and if so what do you think is his ceiling-----he's certainly opening some eyes right now with his bat in the early going!
Also, what are your thoughts about Mike Soroka and Jack Flaherty as potential top of the rotation type guys? Thx. |
(bob m from pa)
|I love Franchy, more than I probably should. He may settle in as a Puig type where the tools are louder than the results. Soroka and Flaherty are both good but I'm not so sure about top of the rotation. (Nicolas Stellini)|
|2018-05-01 13:00:00 (link to chat)||With his very good AAA performance, it seems like prospect gurus started coming around to the idea that Mike Soroka isn't just a high-floor, low-ceiling #4-5 type guy. With his call-up today, what do you see of his short-term and long-term upside in real-life and fantasy context?|
(pinkston from Chicago)
|I think the added strikeouts over the last season-ish have been encouraging, especially coming in the upper levels. I still think he's more of a high floor rather than high ceiling guy, but an upside of SP2 isn't out of the question if he keeps missing bats.
Fun Soroka fact: he's thrown 387 1/3 innings and has only given up 13 homers. Which is, um, good. (Mark Barry)
|2018-04-23 20:00:00 (link to chat)||Who has the highest ceiling between Corbin Burnes, Mitch Keller or Mike Soroka? All 3 seem to be #2-#3 types so far.|
(Jeff from California )
|Keller. More K potential with similar control to the other two. (Eddy Almaguer)|
|2017-11-17 13:00:00 (link to chat)||From a fantasy point of view, how large of a gap is there between Mike Soroka and Tyler Beede for the next few years? (30 team dynasty league)|
(llama from Peru)
|This is well within the fudge factor. Soroka is a better real life prospect than a fantasy prospect (and a better real life prospect than Beede), but he isn't likely to post huge K numbers and the park difference here sure appears to be notable. (Jeffrey Paternostro)|
|2017-07-06 12:00:00 (link to chat)||Was it hard to rank Buehler when the Dodgers aren't letting him go more than 75 pitches in a start? I'd think it'd present challenges when a 22 year old prospect is being handled that carefully.|
(Charlie from LA)
|Jarrett talks about this in his supplemental piece today, but this isn't just a Walker Buehler problem, all these guys get handled pretty carefully now. Other than Mike Soroka apparently. It makes things trickier for sure. (Jeffrey Paternostro)|
|2016-07-22 13:00:00 (link to chat)||Any favorite pitchers in Low-A?|
(Darryl from New York)
|Mike Soroka, Mitch Keller, Anderson Espinoza, Jacob Nix, Jon Harris all come to mind, not necessarily in that order. I like Soroka a whole lot though because of his frame/stuff paired with the strikethrowing he's showed throughout this season. (Adam McInturff)|
|2016-06-13 23:00:00 (link to chat)||Chris Paddack now has 31K against 2BB in 18.1 innings so far this year. I know the changeup is his calling card, but have you heard anything on his fastball and slider? Seems to be fairly projectable based on his frame, but haven't been able to find much re: his velo, etc.
How would he compare to Mike Soroka? Its obviously early, but do you see either of them as quick risers? What're the ceilings there?|
(nkunke1 from BR)
|Have a couple very good reports courtesy of our Sally guys on the prospect team: big strong kid has been 90-94 with the fastball, up from 88-91 when he was drafted, excellent change as you note, more room to fill out a prototypical frame. The curve is lagging still, apparently, but the tools are there between size and a solid 1-2 for a similar mid-rotation ceiling to Soroka. (Wilson Karaman)|
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Although he has not thrown an MLB pitch in 2022, Michael Soroka threw 3,247 pitches that were tracked by the PITCHf/x system between 2018 and 2020, including pitches thrown in . In 2020, he relied primarily on his Sinker (92mph), Slider (82mph) and Fourseam Fastball (93mph), also mixing in a Change (81mph).
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