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Birth Date9-23-1985
Height6' 3"
Weight245 lbs
Age35 years, 1 months, 0 days
WARP Summary

MLB Statistics

Historical (past-seasons) WARP is now based on DRA..
cFIP and DRA are not available on a by-team basis and display as zeroes(0). See TOT line for season totals of these stats.
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2007 NYA MLB 19 0 24.0 2 0 1 12 6 34 1 101 4.5 2.3 0.4 12.8 0% .224 0.75 1.88 0.38 68 2.43 50.3 0.8
2008 NYA MLB 42 12 100.3 4 3 0 87 39 118 5 104 7.8 3.5 0.4 10.6 0% .324 1.26 2.67 2.60 70 2.88 61.5 2.9
2009 NYA MLB 32 31 157.3 9 6 0 167 76 133 21 110 9.6 4.3 1.2 7.6 0% .313 1.54 4.85 4.75 108 5.62 120.6 -0.1
2010 NYA MLB 73 0 71.7 3 4 3 71 22 77 6 114 8.9 2.8 0.8 9.7 0% .327 1.30 2.95 4.40 86 2.99 67.6 1.6
2011 NYA MLB 27 0 28.7 2 0 0 23 7 24 3 106 7.2 2.2 0.9 7.5 0% .267 1.05 3.58 2.83 81 3.13 72.8 0.5
2012 NYA MLB 22 0 20.7 1 0 0 26 6 22 3 105 11.3 2.6 1.3 9.6 0% .371 1.55 3.96 4.35 84 3.28 75.1 0.4
2013 NYA MLB 45 0 42.0 2 1 1 47 26 38 8 101 10.1 5.6 1.7 8.1 0% .312 1.74 5.67 4.93 108 4.49 107.5 0.1
2014 DET MLB 69 0 63.0 2 5 2 57 24 59 3 106 8.1 3.4 0.4 8.4 0% .310 1.29 3.19 3.57 90 3.71 90.9 0.6
2015 DET 0 30 0 22.0 0 2 0 32 5 15 5 105 13.1 2.0 2.0 6.1 0% .360 1.68 5.51 4.09 99 4.73 110.6 0.0
2015 KCA 0 6 0 5.7 0 0 0 6 4 8 1 105 9.5 6.4 1.6 12.7 0% .357 1.76 4.69 7.94 82 3.26 76.1 0.1
2016 CLE MLB 20 0 20.0 0 0 0 12 11 18 1 107 5.4 5.0 0.5 8.1 54% .216 1.15 3.75 2.25 103 5.22 115.6 -0.1
2015 TOT MLB 36 0 27.7 0 2 0 38 9 23 6 105 12.4 2.9 2.0 7.5 0% .000 1.70 5.34 4.88 96 4.43 103.5 0.1

Statistics for All Levels

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2007 NYA MLB AL 19 0 24.0 2 0 1 12 6 34 1 101 4.5 2.3 0.4 12.8 0% .224 0.75 1.88 0.38 68 2.43 50.3
2008 NYA MLB AL 42 12 100.3 4 3 0 87 39 118 5 104 7.8 3.5 0.4 10.6 0% .324 1.26 2.67 2.60 70 2.88 61.5
2009 NYA MLB AL 32 31 157.3 9 6 0 167 76 133 21 110 9.6 4.3 1.2 7.6 0% .313 1.54 4.85 4.75 108 5.62 120.6
2010 NYA MLB AL 73 0 71.7 3 4 3 71 22 77 6 114 8.9 2.8 0.8 9.7 0% .327 1.30 2.95 4.40 86 2.99 67.6
2011 NYA MLB AL 27 0 28.7 2 0 0 23 7 24 3 106 7.2 2.2 0.9 7.5 0% .267 1.05 3.58 2.83 81 3.13 72.8
2012 NYA MLB AL 22 0 20.7 1 0 0 26 6 22 3 105 11.3 2.6 1.3 9.6 0% .371 1.55 3.96 4.35 84 3.28 75.1
2012 TAM A+ FSL 3 3 4.0 0 1 0 3 1 1 1 113 6.8 2.3 2.3 2.3 0% .182 1.00 6.89 2.25 121 4.26 88.7
2012 TRN AA EAS 1 0 1.3 1 0 0 1 0 3 0 6.8 0.0 0.0 20.3 0% .333 0.75 -1.31 0.00 48 2.59 54.0
2012 YAN Rk GCL 3 3 4.0 0 0 0 0 0 6 0 98 0.0 0.0 0.0 13.5 0% .000 0.00 0.43 0.00 62 1.06 22.1
2013 NYA MLB AL 45 0 42.0 2 1 1 47 26 38 8 101 10.1 5.6 1.7 8.1 0% .312 1.74 5.67 4.93 108 4.49 107.5
2013 SWB AAA INT 1 1 1.0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 89 18.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0% .400 2.00 3.20 0.00 108 6.10 132.6
2014 DET MLB AL 69 0 63.0 2 5 2 57 24 59 3 106 8.1 3.4 0.4 8.4 0% .310 1.29 3.19 3.57 90 3.71 90.9
2015 DET MLB AL 30 0 22.0 0 2 0 32 5 15 5 105 13.1 2.0 2.0 6.1 0% .360 1.68 5.51 4.09 99 4.73 110.6
2015 KCA MLB AL 6 0 5.7 0 0 0 6 4 8 1 105 9.5 6.4 1.6 12.7 0% .357 1.76 4.69 7.94 82 3.26 76.1
2015 BUF AAA INT 7 0 5.0 0 1 2 9 4 7 0 16.2 7.2 0.0 12.6 0% .529 2.60 2.75 14.40 85 6.26 137.2
2015 OMA AAA PCL 8 0 7.0 1 0 0 11 2 9 0 14.1 2.6 0.0 11.6 0% .500 1.86 1.88 6.43 68 3.92 86.1
2016 CLE MLB AL 20 0 20.0 0 0 0 12 11 18 1 107 5.4 5.0 0.5 8.1 54% .216 1.15 3.75 2.25 103 5.22 115.6

Plate Discipline

YEAR Pits Zone% Swing% Contact% Z-Swing% O-Swing% Z-Contact% O-Contact% SwStr%
2008 1654 0.4740 0.4256 0.7244 0.5523 0.3115 0.8476 0.5277 0.2756
2009 2706 0.4715 0.3943 0.7901 0.5666 0.2406 0.8769 0.6076 0.2099
2010 1154 0.5243 0.4532 0.7744 0.6132 0.2769 0.8518 0.5855 0.2256
2011 426 0.4953 0.4531 0.7409 0.5877 0.3209 0.8306 0.5797 0.2591
2012 352 0.4205 0.4688 0.6970 0.6014 0.3725 0.8876 0.4737 0.3030
2013 765 0.4614 0.4157 0.7642 0.5751 0.2791 0.8670 0.5826 0.2358
2014 1026 0.4922 0.4269 0.7306 0.5683 0.2898 0.8676 0.4702 0.2694
2015 537 0.4842 0.4227 0.7577 0.5846 0.2708 0.8882 0.4933 0.2423
2016 344 0.4012 0.4273 0.7143 0.5942 0.3155 0.9146 0.4615 0.2857

Injury History  —  No longer being updated

Last Update: 12/31/2014 23:59 ET

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
2014-05-26 2014-05-27 DTD 1 1 Right Ankle Contusion -
2013-04-28 2013-05-28 15-DL 30 27 Right Abdomen Strain Oblique - -
2012-10-12 2012-10-14 DTD 2 0 Right Elbow Contusion Batted Ball - -
2012-03-26 2012-07-31 60-DL 127 102 Right Elbow Recovery From Surgery Tommy John Surgery 2011-06-16 -
2012-03-22 2012-03-22 On-Alr 0 0 Right Ankle Surgery Open Dislocation 2012-03-22 -
2012-02-28 2012-03-26 Camp 27 0 Right Elbow Recovery From Surgery Tommy John Surgery 2011-06-16 -
2011-07-04 2011-07-04 On-Alr 0 0 - Abdomen Surgery Appendix 2011-07-04 -
2011-06-06 2011-10-07 60-DL 123 105 Right Elbow Surgery Tommy John Surgery 2011-06-16
2011-05-22 2011-05-25 DTD 3 3 Right Inflammation -
2011-03-08 2011-03-22 Camp 14 0 Left Abdomen Strain Oblique -
2010-03-01 2010-03-05 Camp 4 0 General Medical Illness Flu -
2009-08-16 2009-08-16 DTD 0 0 Right Knee Contusion Hit Whirlpool a Few Weeks -
2009-05-21 2009-05-21 DTD 0 0 Right Knee Contusion -
2009-05-09 2009-05-10 DTD 1 1 Right Hand Tear Blood Vessel -
2008-09-28 2008-09-29 DTD 1 2 Right Shoulder Soreness -
2008-08-06 2008-09-02 15-DL 27 24 Right Shoulder Inflammation Rotator Cuff Tendinitis -
2008-04-25 2008-04-27 DTD 2 2 Left Thigh Soreness Hamstring -
2008-03-21 2008-03-26 Camp 5 0 General Medical Illness Sore Throat -


Year Team Salary
2017 MIL $
2016 CLE $
2015 DET $1,000,000
2014 DET $2,500,000
2013 NYA $1,875,000
2012 NYA $1,675,000
2011 NYA $1,400,000
2010 NYA $487,975
2009 NYA $432,575
2008 NYA $390,000
8 yrPrevious$9,760,550
8 yrTotal$9,760,550


Service TimeAgentContract Status
8 y 106 dExcel Sports Management1 year (2017)

  • 1 year (2017). Signed by Milwaukee as a free agent 1/20/17 (minor-league contract). Salary of $1.375M in majors. Released by Milwaukee 3/22/17.
  • 1 year (2016). Signed by Cleveland as a free agent 12/1/15 (minor-league contract). Salary of $1M in majors. May earn additional $2M in performance bonuses. Contract selected by Cleveland 4/4/16. DFA by Cleveland 7/4/16. Released 7/10/16.
  • 1 year/$1M (2015). Re-signed by Detroit as a free agent 2/24/15. Performance bonuses: $0.1M each for 35, 40, 45, 50, 55 games pitched. DFA by Detroit 7/3/15. Released 7/10/15. Signed by Toronto as a free agent 7/22/15 (minor-league contract). Released by Toronto 8/14/15. Signed by Kansas City as a free agent 8/16/15 (minor-league contract). Contract selected by Kansas City 9/7/15. DFA by Kansas City 10/27/15. Elected free agency 10/29/15.
  • 1 year/$2.5M (2014). Signed by Detroit as a free agent 12/12/13. Performance bonuses: $0.1M each for 35, 40, 45, 50, 55 games pitched. Award bonus: $75,000 for All-Star selection.
  • 1 year/$1.875M (2013). Re-signed by NY Yankees 1/17/13 (avoided arbitration). May earn additional $0.275M in performance bonuses based on games finished.
  • 1 year/$1.675M (2012). Re-signed by NY Yankees 1/17/12 (avoided arbitration).
  • 1 year/$1.4M (2011). Re-signed by NY Yankees 1/18/11 (avoided arbitration).
  • 1 year/$487,975 (2010). Re-signed by NY Yankees 3/12/10.
  • 1 year/$432,575 (2009). Re-signed by NY Yankees 3/11/09 (split contract paying $0.234M in minors).
  • 1 year/$0.39M (2008). Renewed by NY Yankees 3/4/08.
  • 1 year (2007). Contract purchased by NY Yankees 8/7/07.
  • Drafted by NY Yankees 2006 (1s-41) (Nebraska). $1.1M signing bonus.

2019 Preseason Forecast

Last Update: 1/27/2017 12:35 ET

90o 10.3 0 3 61 0 51.6 39 22 50 4 .258 1.19 3.13 3.37 -2.2 -0.2
80o 8.8 0 2.5 54 0 45.1 37 21 44 4 .275 1.30 3.54 3.81 -4.1 -0.4
70o 7.8 0 2.2 48 0 40.6 36 20 39 4 .287 1.38 3.84 4.13 -5.1 -0.6
60o 6.9 0 1.9 44 0 36.8 34 20 36 4 .298 1.45 4.10 4.41 -5.8 -0.6
50o 6.2 0 1.7 40 0 33.4 32 19 32 3 .307 1.52 4.35 4.68 -6.3 -0.7
40o 5.5 0 1.5 36 0 30.1 31 18 29 3 .317 1.60 4.61 4.95 -6.5 -0.7
30o 4.8 0 1.3 32 0 26.7 28 16 26 3 .328 1.68 4.89 5.25 -6.7 -0.7
20o 4 0 1 27 0 22.8 26 15 22 3 .340 1.77 5.22 5.6 -6.6 -0.7
10o 3 0 0.8 21 0 17.6 21 12 17 2 .358 1.92 5.70 6.11 -6.1 -0.7
Weighted Mean6.101.639032.63118323.3051.504.314.63-5.9-0.6

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BP Chats

2017-02-16 20:00:00 (link to chat)Following up on your answer to Marty. There has yet to be shown that anything can predict or prevent TJS. The coddling of Joba Chamberlain, a big horse, was a fiasco and everybody predicted that 6'6" bean pole, Chris Sale, and his funny motion, would fall apart. I watched Bob Lemon and Allie Reynolds throw in relief between their starts and go on for years. The question of how much exertion went into the deliveries then versus now is legitimate but it really just looks like luck. The arm falls off or it doesn't.
(oldbopper from New Britain, CT)
It's almost as if there's no "good" mechanics, only aesthetically pleasing ones and aesthetically unpleasing ones.

Knock on wood for your favorite pitcher, friends. (Kate Morrison)
2013-08-14 13:00:00 (link to chat)Any thoughts on Wacha's move to the bullpen? Obviously the Cards still intend on him to be a SP long term, but between this and how they've handled Carlos Martinez's role, I've been a bit baffled by their decision making this season with their top pitching prospects.
(Aaron from Chicago)
I don't see a problem with it. This isn't a Phil Hughes or Joba Chamberlain situation where the organization is sending mixed messages. These guys are going to be starters long term, but for now, their best benefit to the team is out of the 'pen. Wacha and Martinez aren't going to suddenly forget how to be starting pitchers because they came out of the bullpen a few times during the season. Either way, Wacha has shown massive stuff out of the bullpen, working 95-98 with big downhill plane and the wipeout changeup. He could be a serious difference maker down the stretch. (Jason Cole)
2013-04-04 11:00:00 (link to chat)Ian Kennedy was the opening day starter for the Diamondbacks but at one time he was a prospect for the Yankees behind Phil Hughes and Joba Chamberlain. Both those guys haven't stayed healthy but do you think the Yankees are at fault for picking the wrong guys? Thanks for the chat.
(Ray from DC)
It's easy to assign fault or blame with revisionists views. Sure, they could have handled the situation better, but that's easy for me to say as I sit in my apartment and type out my answers. Player development and personnel decisions are complicated and I don't have access to all the information the team was working with at the time of the decisions. Personally, I thought Hughes/Joba were jerked around a bit. (Jason Parks)
2013-01-29 14:00:00 (link to chat)Is the Yankee bullpen deep enough to overcome the loss of Soriano?
(Alex from Anaheim)
Thanks for coming back, Alex.

With Mariano Rivera, and David Aardsma and Joba Chamberlain in the mix, I don't think the Yankees will miss Soriano too much, provided that at least two of those three righties are healthy. Also, to throw in a little Top 10 prospect lingo, keep in mind that they have a potential "Factor on the Farm" in Mark Montgomery. (Daniel Rathman)
2012-10-11 13:00:00 (link to chat)Is this the offseason that the Yankees finally cut ties with Joba Chamberlain? With all the injuries and the developmental mishandling, it seems that he's more of a headache and distraction than a player with significant upside.
(jlarsen from chicago)
I think fans get much more easily distracted than MLB front offices do. A player on the disabled list may be a frustration to fans who are expecting more of him, but usually front offices tend to be a lot more cold-bloodedly rational about such things. The Yankees will cut ties with Joba if they think they can apply that money or roster spot better somewhere else and not one second sooner, I suspect. (Colin Wyers)
2011-08-04 13:00:00 (link to chat)Why do teams keep asking Yanks for their entire farm system in prospective trades, as if it's 1985 and/or George's ghost is going to emerge to force Cashman to agree? Yanks haven't done a deal like that since 2000 for Neagle, and even then the prospects they gave up turned into Bust, Buster & Busted.
(DrManhattan from NYC, NY)
Teams try to extort the Yankees because they're working with an outdated paradigm of the way the organization functions. Which isn't to say it isn't without its dysfunctions, but the Yankees have moved a long ways from the days when they so willingly surrendered prospects that went on to flourish elsewhere. I looked at this years ago in one of my first BP articles, "The Claussen Pickle" - they've generally done a very good job of avoiding giving up on Jay Buhners. If these were the Madness of King George days, Phil Hughes and Joba Chamberlain would have been in other uniforms for 3-4 years now. (Jay Jaffe)
2011-07-07 13:00:00 (link to chat)I was just thinking about Joba Chamberlain. He gets so much hype... but has he ever been that good
(Randy from Denver)
He was, briefly, when he first came up. Then the Yankees killed him with kindness in a case of pitcher mishandling that will literally be textbook for the next 50 years. (Steven Goldman)
2011-07-07 13:00:00 (link to chat)I think Joba Chamberlain was wildly overrated based on a SSS of 7 weeks when he first came up. Those 7 weeks were, admittedly, brilliant, but why do people act like that was the "real" Joba Chamberlain? Plenty of pitchers have had dominant stretches like this, never to repeat that success. Do we refer to them as having been "ruined?" And besides, we may never know what went wrong with Joba. The Yankees thought they were being sensible with his usage, yet he got injured anyway. Maybe you just never know what's going to go wrong with pitchers. If they hadn't used kid-gloves with him and he got hurt we'd be killing them for that, too.
(John Foley from Los Angeles)
Yes, but there is a middle ground they missed by a country mile. He's a starter! A reliever! On pitch counts! Starting on odd rest! He's only allowed to eat fish! They grasped at every straw they could find, and all they did was undermine the guy's confidence and consistency. (Steven Goldman)
2011-04-13 13:00:00 (link to chat)Do you think Yankees did something wrong with Phil Hughes and Joba Chamberlain, or do their struggles fall under the heading of young pitchers will break your heart? I find myself turning my eyes (and hopes) to Manny Banuelos...
(Rob from Andover, CT)
It's easy to look back and question the way the Yanks handled both arms. That said, its not uncommon for "can't miss" pitchers to miss. I think Hughes still has a bright future. I can't say the same for Chamberlain. Banuelos should develop into a solid starter at the major league level, but if he fails to take that final step, I'm not sure how much the Yankees will be to blame. (Jason Parks)
2011-03-24 13:00:00 (link to chat)I figured we'd wipe the slate clean on Opening Day. And the Rockies would at least demand the life-sized Cervelli bobblehead.
(Ratcatcher from Gormenghast)
Heh. And let's not forget, all the best ludicrous-Yankee-fan trade suggestions are legally obligated to include Joba Chamberlain, as they have been since 2009. (Emma Span)
2010-11-02 13:00:00 (link to chat)Do you feel Cashner is better utilized in pen or rotation for the Cubs?
(Matt from Chicago)
Any pitcher who has value is better utilized in a starting rotation. I don't care if this is Joba Chamberlain, Phil Hughes, Neftali Feliz, etc, because my opinion stays the same. Getting 165-200 innings of quality production is much more valuable than 55 innings. (Eric Seidman)
2010-07-23 13:00:00 (link to chat)Where's the next big competitive advantage in baseball going to come from? In the past, it was international scouting, then statistical analysis of offense (and pitching, to a lesser degree). What's next on the horizon?
(krissbeth from watertown, ma)
Having said what I said above about Hughes and Latos, I have to think the breakthrough comes when somebody figures out how to navigate young pitchers through the injury nexus, keeping them healthy and effective. Obviously, the way the Yankees handled Joba Chamberlain last year was suboptimal, and Hughes' struggles raise the question of whether they're making the same mistake again.

If I owned a team and could figure that out, I'm pretty sure I'd be baseball's next billionaire. (Jay Jaffe)
2010-07-26 14:00:00 (link to chat)Given the way he's been pitching, would it make sense for Brian Cashman to have the cajones to send Joba Chamberlain to AAA?
(Ethan from New York)
I think in general he's pitched better than some of the numbers show -- he has a SIERA in the low 3's, I think, and a BABIP up around .400. I don't know if shipping him out will help rebuild his confidence or sink it. I also wonder whether all the talk of the Joba rules "ruining" him is really accurate -- maybe he really wasn't as good as we all thought he was. (Ken Funck)
2010-06-10 13:00:00 (link to chat)Four years ago I had an initial draft for an AL only dynasty league and built my team around Grady Sizemore, Alex Gordon, BJ Upton, Felix Hernandez, Scott Kazmir and Joba Chamberlain. Do you know of any support groups I can join?
(achaik from maine)
Well at least Bossman Junior is doing well again! (Marc Normandin)
2010-06-02 13:00:00 (link to chat)Thanks, Tommy. It's been an emotional couple of weeks. Regarding Cashner, any advice you can think of for the Cubs to prevent Cashner's talent as a SP from going the route of Neftali Feliz, or worse, Joba Chamberlain? Seems like teams are taking the first half of Earl Weaver's advice really well, and forgetting the second half.
(bctowns from Chicago, IL)
The last sentence here is exactly correct. (Tommy Bennett)
2010-05-19 13:00:00 (link to chat)Do you think there's any chance Joba Chamberlain is hurt? I know it seems impossible to think that the Yankees would let him pitch if there was even the slightest chance he was hurt, but the inconsistent velocity since his '08 shoulder injury just makes me wonder.
(Robert from New York)
Chance? Yes. Evidence? No. My lord, when did fans of every team get so paranoid? Maybe it's just me, but that's almost all I hear anymore. "Why is my team cursed?" says the Mets/Sox/Yankee/Dodger fan ... enjoy the game! I really worry about some people, who's day to day life and happiness is determined by the fortunes of their team. It's really unhealthy at that level. (Will Carroll)
2010-04-22 13:00:00 (link to chat)I was lucky enough to see Feliz pitch in Boston last night. Easiest 101mph ever! You think he plays bullpen ace for the entire season?
(WilliamWilde from Boston, MA)
Yes. I think the Rangers learned from how the Yankees dealt with Joba Chamberlain. When he didn't win a rotation slot out of camp, it put him in as a pen guy for '10 barring a run of injuries. That said, I think he still gets a chance at the rotation next year, assuming he wants to shift out of a role he could succeed in long term. (Will Carroll)
2010-03-17 14:00:00 (link to chat)Lightning Round Question: Why has Joba Chamberlain been subjected to the Yankees' version of The Death of A Thousand Small Cuts? And can he recover (if not in the Bronx, somewhere else?) Thanks for the chat Christina
(BeplerP from New York, NY)
I think he's fine in NYC, and that he will be fine starring in whatever role they place him in this summer. It's not about the media, it's not about New York, it's about how they manage him. (Christina Kahrl)
2010-02-02 13:00:00 (link to chat)Assuming they keep Joba in rotation, is there a way to build Hughes' innings up from the pen? Say 100-130, so next year he could join the rotation?
(Bill from NYC)
Yeah, turn him into a 2-inning guy. Is there ANY reason this can't be done? Heck, turn him into the 2010 Mike Marshall. Tandem him with Joba Chamberlain. What if you could get 150 innings from each? Baseball is more concerned with role than value right now and it's kcufing things up. (Will Carroll)
2009-12-17 13:00:00 (link to chat)I really hate the idea of a rotating DH spot for the Yanks because it means the Yanks will have to rely on positional depth which has not been strong point in recent years. Also, the market for a primary DH is flooded and can be had for cheap. My question is, does the rotating DH spot make any sort of sense? And more generally, what should the Yanks do the rest of the offseason?
(Nick from San Francisco)
I don't have a problem conceptually with the idea of a rotating DH spot, particularly with a bunch of guys who need rest built into their regimens -- A-Rod, Posada, even Jeter and Damon, if he returns -- but you're absolutely right, they need some depth in order to make that worth their while. Mark DeRosa would seem to be a very good choice for such a task, and he's still out there if the Yankees want to go that route.

Beyond that, the Yankees' need to solve left field one way or another, and find a capable back-rotation type who would be comfortable working out of the bullpen so Joba Chamberlain and Phil Hughes can both get a shot at the rotation. (Jay Jaffe)
2009-11-02 15:00:00 (link to chat)I disagree w/ u on Girardi's usage of Hughes. Hughes has not performed in high-leverage situations in the post-season so Girardi has demoted him to lower leverage situations. If Hughes had performed in Game 4 he might have pitched in Game 5. This is the flexibility that has allowed Girardi go to Marte in this series and remove Bruney from primary eight inning man earlier this season. Thoughts?
(RJS from NY, NY)
Hughes hasn't been given enough chances to pitch. He's a converted starter who pitched well in full-inning and multi-inning outings, and in the postseason he's been a two-batter guy. And that happened very early, and created a feedback loop. Joba Chamberlain punted G3 in Anaheim and G4 last night, but he's still in the mix, so it's not just performance in high-leverage situations. It's probably too late now, but Hughes was a weapon three weeks ago, and he was turned into much less by Girardi. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-09-24 14:00:00 (link to chat)Shouldn't a clear-eyed Yankee fan be concerned about starting pitching in the playoffs?
(ekanenh from Capitol City)
Absolutely. Andy Pettitte's quality start Monday certainly makes everyone breathe easier, but A.J. Burnett is a dice roll, and they have apparently screwed up Joba Chamberlain something fierce. (The lesson here is that very-low-pitch-count starts are apparently not the way to manage workloads for young starter.) Only CC Sabathia is someone you can expect to be healthy and effective throughout October...and he's the guy who'll be facing Verlander and Lester. The rotation is the Yankees' biggest concern, and at that, they're the postseason favorite. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-09-29 13:00:00 (link to chat)In your 9/4 Pinstriped Bible column, you gave a somewhat negative comment on the 2009 Joba rules by saying the Yankees might get what they want but lost what they have. Since "rules of 30" is widely accepted if not preached by stat-heads, what approach do you think is better to take for handling Joba Chamberlain barring shutting him down in the middle of the season? Lu
(Ching-Chih Lu from Taipei)
The rule of 30 is overly broad. There has to be a more nuanced approach. In Joba's case, they yanked him from the rotation at the exact moment he was building up a run of good starts, so they killed his rhythm. Then they put him back in the rotation but gave him a crazy-short leash, so he was under pressure to be perfect from the outset. A better approach, I think, would have been to keep him in the rotation, monitor for stressful innings, which do the real damage, and above all, just not say anything, because I don't think Joba can pitch while thinking about all this stuff. (Steven Goldman)
2009-09-21 14:00:00 (link to chat)Good afternoon Jay! Thanks for the chat. How much of Joba Chamberlain's uneven 2009 can be attributed to the way the Yanks have handled him, and how much can be attributed to Joba's maturity (attitude towards looking at video, casual nature in interviews after bad performances)
(dianagramr from NYC)
Lots of Joba/Yankees questions here, so i guess this wins for the hot topic of the day. I think the two things go hand in hand - the Yanks have jerked Chamberlain around, and he's apparently not terribly well suited to such handling. In retrospect, given his innings limitiations they probably should have followed last year's template and started the year with him in the bullpen, then moved him into the rotation mid-season and kept him there (without the injury part that disrupted 2008's plan, of course). (Jay Jaffe)
2009-08-17 14:00:00 (link to chat)Standard keeper league, who do you like better long-term, Derek Holland or Joba Chamberlain? Congrats on the new gig!
(Paul from Fort Worth, TX)
Me personally, I'd go with Joba. But full disclosure: I have a much, much better track record picking hitters than pitchers. (Ken Funck)
2009-08-28 13:00:00 (link to chat)Any thoughts on the Yankees again jerking around when Joba Chamberlain starts? Now he will start every 5th day, instead of every 8th day. I understand he has an innings limit, but couldn't they just limit his innings per start, and not mess around with when he starts?
(Adam from Houston)
They seem ready to go with him every fifth day until they clinch. Personally, I think the Yankees have been outthinking themselves about this guy for two years. I've never seen so much fuss made over a pitcher who has really accomplished so little. (John Perrotto)
2009-07-13 14:00:00 (link to chat)You're JP Ricciardi. I offer you Jesus Montero, Joba Chamberlain, Brett Gardner, and Edwar Ramirez for Vernon Wells and Roy Halladay.
(Mike from Bronx)
Oh, god yes. Prospects AND $115 million? Are you kidding me? That deal would be insanely great for the Jays.

It would also mean Ricciardi was never around to benefit from it. Ah, moral hazard. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-05-21 14:00:00 (link to chat)Joe, I've figured out Phil Hughes problem. Number 65. This is an offensive lineman's number, not a pitcher's number. It looks completely wrong. Bad taste, probably bad karma.
(Tom Saippe from CT)
And yet, Joba Chamberlain survives. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-02-24 13:00:00 (link to chat)Who has the better year between Clayton Kershaw and Joba Chamberlain? Thanks.
(Willigan from Missoula, MT)
Chamberlain will have more value, in perhaps fewer innings. Kershaw may still need a year to work on his command, while still being league-average or a bit better than that.

Connectivity is a bit slow. I'm at a Starbucks on the UWS, but I can't tell if it's my card or the BP site. (Joe Sheehan)
2008-12-15 13:00:00 (link to chat)Do you have any reservations about Joba's ability to stick as a starter? About Hughes ability to stay healthy?
(Rob from Brighton)
I think Joba Chamberlain will be a solid starter, but I'm not sure about being a #1. Since they signed Sabathia, he doesn't have to be. 2? 3? Not sure, but they've handled him well. Hughes - well, he hasn't stayed healthy yet, so I don't have any reason to think that will change. It could, since he's young, and he's been good when healthy so you have to keep hoping. Hughes is the guy I usually cite, along with Rocco Baldelli and J.D. Drew, when I say that genetics will be the next revolution in baseball. (Will Carroll)
2008-10-07 13:00:00 (link to chat)If you granted every pitcher a year of health in '09 (they still lose late inning effectiveness to fatigue but don't break down), would Joba be the single pitcher most likely to win the AL Cy Young?
(Tony from Brooklyn, NY)
I swore I answered this, but I apparently forgot to hit submit. I'm interested in seeing what Joba Chamberlain can do with a full season as a starter, but I think with no injury repercussions, the Cy goes to Roy Halladay. He's already efficient enough to throw a ton of complete games, and if he isn't missing any time and there aren't worries about him breaking down, he's going to throw 250 innings easy like this year. (Marc Normandin)
2008-07-29 16:00:00 (link to chat)Hi Will, Following this chat on my iphone from a park. You should check out the AOL Radio app for the iPhone. Do you see Wainright coming back as SP or RP? Also, do you see Mets making deal for SP with Maine's recent injury?
(Benn from Brooklyn, NY)
Hi Benn -- I prefer Pandora, but only because none of my local stations are CBS. If XM/Sirius comes out with something for iPhone, it's on. I think Wainwright might come back as a RP to start with, but transition in much the same way that Joba Chamberlain did. It'd be instead of rehab starts that don't help the Cardinals stay in the race. I don't think the Mets will make a panic move. Pedro will be back to hold off the one start Maine is known to be missing. (Will Carroll)
2008-06-23 12:00:00 (link to chat)Hey I have bought the last 3 annuals- cant I get a question answered? Now that they have had some major league experience how would you rate the following highy touted pitchers= Andrew Miller, Phil Hughes, Joba Chamberlain, Tim Lincecum, Homer Bailey and Clayton Kershaw. If Detroit had a do-over would they still select Miller over Kershaw?
(bpfan from nyc)
Of course you can get a question answered. I'd rank them like this: Chamberlain, Lincecum, Kershaw, Hughes, Miller, Bailey. Though I'm sure they wouldn't say so, I think the Tigers would rather have taken Kershaw with the way it's all turned out. (John Perrotto)
2008-06-23 12:00:00 (link to chat)With Price being promoted to AA, if he should have success from now until September and the Rays are contending, do you see him as the 2008 Joba Chamberlain?
(Tommy from OPS,FL)
I haven't heard anything about that or even thought of it, but that's a heckuva idea. Joe Maddon is a BP reader and maybe he'll see your suggestion. (John Perrotto)
2008-05-30 13:00:00 (link to chat)Who's this Kershaw kid everybody talks about?
(Wendy from Madrid)
He was the best pitching prospect left in the minors, since Clay Buchholz and Joba Chamberlain were already in the majors. Kevin Goldstein ranked him #5 overall in his Top 100 this winter. He's 20 years old and based on how he did in Triple-A, is probably cable of carrying himself in the majors right now. (Marc Normandin)
2008-05-20 13:00:00 (link to chat)Why do I keep reading about how much trouble the Yankees are in? Hasn't this been the story for three years running now? Slow start, fast finish. Do you see anything to make you think this year will be different from 2005-2007?
(Joe from Tewksbury, MA)
Yes. Everybody in the lineup, including Alex Rodriguez and Jorge Posada is a year older, and with the exception of Melky Cabrera and Robinson Cano, they're a year further away from their statistical primes, to say nothing about the fact that Cano looks pretty lost right now. The bench is weak even for a team that's done poorly in that area in the recent past. Seriously, I'd take Chili Davis, Darryl Strawberry, Luis Sojo and Ron Coomer circa 2008 over some of the stiffs they have lying around.

There's that, plus a weak pitching staff where the back of the rotation has been a thorough disaster thus far and the bullpen situation is considered so fragile that there's actually a question about whether they'll move Joba Chamberlain to a starting role this year. Add to that the fact that the AL East has gotten tougher and I think there's no longer any guarantee that the Yankees will contend, let alone win the division.

The other thing in play is the new manager. Through the early season debacles of the last few years, Torre was able to absorb the front office's slings and arrows and still give off a sense of calm confidence that things would eventually turn around. Girardi is protected from the barbs of Hank Steinbrenner at the moment -- his focus appears to be on forcing Brian Cashman out -- but Little Joe is the kind of guy who seems more likely to go Billy Martin bonkers as things get worse, and I don't think that's going to help. (Jay Jaffe)
2008-05-01 13:00:00 (link to chat)Joba Chamberlain joins the Yankee rotation in a) July, b) August, c) next year or d) never?
(Joe from Washington, DC)
Next year. I've said all along that there's no way they'd be able to take away one of Girardi's two good relievers in the middle of a pennant race. (Joe Sheehan)
2008-04-17 13:00:00 (link to chat)Who is the better pair: Jay Bruce & Joba Chamberlain or Adam Jones & Clayton Kershaw? And by how much?
(Franklin Stubbs from (LA))
Bruce and Chamberlain are the best hitting and pitching prospects in baseball, respectively. So they trump all other permutations. (Nate Silver)
2008-04-15 13:00:00 (link to chat)Will: Do you have any concerns about Joba Chamberlain's mechanics? There have been a few articles recently claiming that his delivery puts undue stress on his shoulder, etc.
(Joe from Washington, DC)
Nope. He does throw significantly harder, which looks slightly worse, when he's relieving. (Will Carroll)
2008-03-28 14:00:00 (link to chat)When you say Joba will be the second best reliever in stripes, are you projecting a rebound year for Mariano or a big drop off in Joba's production?
(Mattymystique from Waltham, MA)
"Rebound year"? Rivera was terrific last season, and if he repeats it, everyone should be happy.

And no, I don't think Joba Chamberlain is a 0.xx ERA pitcher.

For one season, you'd have to take Rivera over Chamberlain, right?

Lightning round...if you're in Indianpolis, you can hear me at 4 p.m. on 950 AM with Greg Rakestraw and Brad Wochomurka. I'll be the guy coughing a lot. (Joe Sheehan)
2008-03-25 14:00:00 (link to chat)Any thoughts on Clayton Kershaw? Spring stats don't mean much, but he's looked good. Any chance he's the best pitching prospect at the end of the year?
(Wendy from DC)
His spring performance has been strong enough to put him in the Dodgers' rotation picture *in April*, which would have seemed incredible just two months ago, but as you know, he is that talented. Add in being left-handed, and there's an argument right now that he's the best pitching prospect around right now, regardless of rookie status or eligibility or any of that. If his rookie status gets expended this year, that doesn't change, any more than it does for Joba Chamberlain or Clayton Buchholz; they're just an exceptional trio of talents any of us would wish to have on our favorite team for the next ten years. (Christina Kahrl)
2008-02-27 13:00:00 (link to chat)More likely scenario; Joba Chamberlain never starts a game in the Majors Joba Chamberlain moves into the rotation around the All Star break Personally, I've got the former.
(Joe from Tewksbury, MA)
You might be right. I worry about a Dave Righetti scenario here. It's very easy to imagine Chamberlain pitching well in the pen and the Yankees saying, "We don't want to mess with success." To invoke Nate for about the umpteenth time this chat, last year he did a good bit of analysis (on Unfiltered, I think) trying to find the break-even point for Jon Papelbon-as-starter vs. as-reliever. We need to ask him to do that again for Chamberlain. My guess is that the threshold for the reliever argument has got to be pretty high -- Joba has to be spectacularly good in the pen, not just really good -- to justify giving up the high-side expectations of what he can do in the rotation. (Steven Goldman)
2008-02-06 14:00:00 (link to chat)An established starting pitcher (CC Sabathia for example) can throw 220 innings before "hitting a wall". An established relief pitcher can throw 90 innings before hitting the same wall. This makes sense because a relief pitcher puts more effort into each pitch. My question is, when a team puts a pitcher into the bullpen to lower the number of innings they pitch in a year (Chad Billingsly), does this approach affect the real limit on the pitchers workload? For example, if the Yankees start out the year with Joba Chamberlain in the bullpen to lower his workload for the year, to keep him under 150 or 160, and he throws 25 innings in two months, should these 25 be considered more then 25 when rationing his workload?
(ajsofer from New York City)
It may make sense to you, but do you have any evidence to suppor that premise? I've got a lot to shoot it down...

Your question isn't really answerable, at least in a form where it would be sufficient to inform a decision. Management and optimization of pitcher workload is a very complicated question, and I've got a two-part column in the can addressing exactly that. Should run towards the end of this month. (Gary Huckabay)
2008-01-29 16:00:00 (link to chat)Rany, is Luke Hochevar going to be a bust in relative terms to the #1 overall pick?
(ajblobaum from Lawrence, KS)
"Bust" is too strong a term. He's going to be less valuable than your typical #1 pick, simply because your average #1 pick includes the Griffeys and A-Rods of the world. I think he's going to be a #3 starter, maybe #2 in a good year. Would he go #1 if the Royals drafted today? No. But the only clearly better player the Royals passed on at the time was Andrew Miller, and even today it's not clear that Miller's the better player. Joba Chamberlain or Tim Lincecum, sure, but few people were arguing that at the time. (Although our own Kevin Goldstein thought the Royals should have taken Lincecum.) (Rany Jazayerli)
2008-01-24 13:00:00 (link to chat)What are your expectation for Joba Chamberlain and Phil Hughes this year and ofr the future?
(Will from Philly)
I think the league will catch up to Chamberlain somewhat, which is inevitable, but I still see him as either a good front-line starting pitcher or lockdown set-up reliever this year with the chance to get even better.
I think Hughes will have a few growing pains this year but he seems like a No. 1-type starter in the too distant future. (John Perrotto)
2008-02-04 13:00:00 (link to chat)Baseball's next star closers are...?
(doog7642 from Blaine, MN)
Joba Chamberlain. (David Laurila)

BP Roundtables

DateRoundtable NameComment
2010-10-06 10:00:002010 Playoffs Day OneOn this date in 1945, Wrigley Field ushers refused to let a billy goat attend Game 4 of the World Series.

On this date in 2007, Joba Chamberlain lost to a hoard of angry midges in Cleveland.

The above are not related, but it does beg the question: What will we see in the 2010 postseason? (David Laurila)
2010-07-13 16:30:00All-Star Gamedianagramr (NYC): I wonder if Girardi is looking at his bullpen, and loving/hating that Joba isn't one of his choices.

Diana, I topic I intend to get to in the Pinstriped Bible this week: trade Joba Chamberlain. Now. (Steven Goldman)
2009-10-28 17:00:002009 WS Game OneNo Joba Chamberlain sighting. Maybe thinking about him for Game 4? (Will Carroll)

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