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Career Summary
Years PA AVG OBP SLG DRC+ WARP
14 5258 .266 .360 .481 117 28.7
Birth Date9-20-1978
Height6' 2"
Weight210 lbs
Age40 years, 4 months, 3 days
BatsR
ThrowsR
WARP Summary

MLB Statistics

YEAR TEAM AGE G PA H 2B 3B HR BB SO HBP SB CS AVG OBP SLG DRC+ DRAA BRR FRAA BWARP
2003 PIT 24 27 97 23 6 1 3 18 28 0 3 1 .291 .423 .506 102 0.8 0.2 -0.6 0.2
2003 SDN 24 3 10 2 1 0 1 1 1 1 0 0 .250 .400 .750 72 -0.3 -0.2 0.2 0.0
2004 PIT 25 120 472 116 24 4 26 41 129 10 4 6 .282 .358 .550 112 10.0 -1.6 -2.0 1.7
2005 PIT 26 162 707 183 44 6 32 95 142 6 21 1 .306 .402 .559 139 38.7 5.5 1.3 6.3
2006 PIT 27 159 689 163 29 3 35 102 156 8 11 2 .286 .396 .532 134 35.6 -2.2 19.8 6.7
2007 PIT 28 145 614 133 25 2 21 59 141 9 4 1 .247 .327 .418 96 0.4 -1.5 6.7 1.9
2008 BOS 29 49 211 54 12 2 9 22 51 2 3 0 .293 .370 .527 127 8.5 -0.6 -1.2 1.1
2008 PIT 29 106 459 111 23 2 22 59 86 2 7 0 .282 .375 .519 131 20.9 1.5 -10.2 2.2
2009 BOS 30 151 638 142 29 3 36 94 162 9 13 3 .267 .384 .537 134 30.9 1.4 14.5 6.1
2010 NYN 31 95 401 90 20 6 6 44 91 5 10 0 .259 .347 .402 96 0.3 1.9 -6.6 0.4
2011 NYN 32 123 509 109 19 1 12 56 109 2 11 1 .245 .329 .374 99 2.1 0.6 -2.9 1.1
2012 NYN 33 70 215 32 2 0 8 19 58 0 5 1 .165 .237 .299 76 -4.9 0.4 3.3 0.3
2013 SEA 34 68 236 42 6 0 11 26 62 2 3 1 .204 .298 .393 101 1.3 0.3 -2.1 0.4
Career127852581200240302226361216569517.266.360.481117144.55.620.228.7

Statistics for All Levels

'opp' stats - Quality of opponents faced - have been moved and are available only as OPP_QUAL in the Statistics reports now.
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YEAR Team Lg G PA oppAVG oppOBP oppSLG BABIP BPF BRAA repLVL POS_ADJ DRC+ DRC+ SD FRAA BRR DRAA BWARP
2000 VER A- 0 147 .000 .000 .000 .361 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2001 CLN A 87 373 .000 .000 .000 .418 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2001 JUP A+ 38 145 .000 .000 .000 .237 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2002 SLU A+ 69 305 .000 .000 .000 .310 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2002 BIN AA 34 128 .000 .000 .000 .338 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2002 MOB AA 23 95 .000 .000 .000 .382 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2003 PIT MLB 27 97 .260 .327 .413 .417 101 6.2 2.5 -0.6 102 23 -0.6 0.2 0.8 0.2
2003 SDN MLB 3 10 .224 .291 .338 .167 109 0.8 0.3 0 72 29 0.2 -0.2 -0.3 0.0
2003 POR AAA 91 373 .000 .000 .000 .338 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2004 PIT MLB 120 472 .264 .327 .428 .345 92 25.3 14.0 -3.2 112 19 -2.0 -1.6 10.0 1.7
2004 NAS AAA 4 13 .000 .000 .000 .750 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2005 PIT MLB 162 707 .265 .328 .424 .350 103 45.8 20.3 -3.7 139 14 1.3 5.5 38.7 6.3
2006 PIT MLB 159 689 .264 .329 .431 .330 96 40.2 20.8 -4.9 134 15 19.8 -2.2 35.6 6.7
2007 PIT MLB 145 614 .269 .332 .427 .292 101 1.7 18.2 -4.4 96 11 6.7 -1.5 0.4 1.9
2008 BOS MLB 49 211 .260 .327 .406 .354 109 10.9 6.1 -1.4 127 15 -1.2 -0.6 8.5 1.1
2008 PIT MLB 106 459 .263 .329 .424 .307 100 27.9 13.3 -3.1 131 13 -10.2 1.5 20.9 2.2
2009 BOS MLB 151 638 .268 .335 .427 .315 111 28.5 18.4 -4.4 134 11 14.5 1.4 30.9 6.1
2010 NYN MLB 95 401 .256 .321 .404 .329 90 11.8 11.1 -2.6 96 15 -6.6 1.9 0.3 0.4
2011 NYN MLB 123 509 .248 .311 .385 .295 97 1.8 13.7 -3.3 99 12 -2.9 0.6 2.1 1.1
2011 SLU A+ 4 16 .277 .354 .438 .400 107 3.7 0.5 -0.1 153 6 -0.6 0.0 1.1 0.1
2012 NYN MLB 70 215 .251 .309 .395 .185 95 -10.9 5.9 -1.4 76 14 3.3 0.4 -4.9 0.3
2012 SLU A+ 5 20 .252 .342 .358 .200 118 -1.8 0.6 -0.3 93 4 -0.2 -0.4 -0.1 0.0
2012 BUF AAA 3 14 .256 .332 .394 .429 97 1.5 0.4 -0.2 101 5 -0.3 0.3 0.1 0.0
2013 SEA MLB 68 236 .261 .322 .409 .231 93 0.2 6.2 -1.7 101 11 -2.1 0.3 1.3 0.4

Statistics For All Levels

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Year Team Lg PA AB R H 2B 3B HR TB RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG ISO SF SH
2000 VER A- 147 135 17 41 5 0 2 52 12 11 25 17 4 .304 .361 .385 .081 0 0
2001 CLN A 373 318 67 115 20 4 13 182 61 48 62 15 2 .362 .450 .572 .211 1 1
2001 JUP A+ 145 123 12 24 4 1 1 33 10 18 26 10 3 .195 .306 .268 .073 1 1
2002 SLU A+ 305 261 48 71 12 2 9 114 54 34 54 22 2 .272 .364 .437 .165 2 2
2002 BIN AA 128 107 17 31 4 2 4 51 19 15 23 13 3 .290 .392 .477 .187 0 0
2002 MOB AA 95 81 16 25 5 2 4 46 12 13 22 4 2 .309 .411 .568 .259 0 0
2003 PIT MLB 97 79 13 23 6 1 3 40 12 18 28 3 1 .291 .423 .506 .215 0 0
2003 SDN MLB 10 8 2 2 1 0 1 6 2 1 1 0 0 .250 .400 .750 .500 0 0
2003 POR AAA 373 307 64 93 11 1 20 166 59 55 71 23 4 .303 .417 .541 .238 0 0
2004 PIT MLB 472 411 61 116 24 4 26 226 82 41 129 4 6 .282 .358 .550 .268 5 5
2004 NAS AAA 13 10 3 4 2 0 1 9 3 3 5 0 0 .400 .538 .900 .500 0 0
2005 PIT MLB 707 599 110 183 44 6 32 335 101 95 142 21 1 .306 .402 .559 .254 7 0
2006 PIT MLB 689 570 101 163 29 3 35 303 109 102 156 11 2 .286 .396 .532 .246 9 0
2007 PIT MLB 614 538 78 133 25 2 21 225 84 59 141 4 1 .247 .327 .418 .171 8 0
2008 BOS MLB 211 184 39 54 12 2 9 97 37 22 51 3 0 .293 .370 .527 .234 3 0
2008 PIT MLB 459 393 72 111 23 2 22 204 64 59 86 7 0 .282 .375 .519 .237 5 0
2009 BOS MLB 638 531 103 142 29 3 36 285 119 94 162 13 3 .267 .384 .537 .269 4 0
2010 NYN MLB 401 348 48 90 20 6 6 140 47 44 91 10 0 .259 .347 .402 .144 4 0
2011 NYN MLB 509 444 59 109 19 1 12 166 57 56 109 11 1 .245 .329 .374 .128 6 1
2011 SLU A+ 16 12 5 6 0 0 2 12 4 4 0 0 0 .500 .625 1.000 .500 0 0
2012 NYN MLB 215 194 21 32 2 0 8 58 20 19 58 5 1 .165 .237 .299 .134 2 0
2012 BUF AAA 14 10 2 3 0 0 0 3 0 4 3 1 0 .300 .500 .300 .000 0 0
2012 SLU A+ 20 15 0 2 0 0 0 2 1 4 6 1 0 .133 .300 .133 .000 1 0
2013 SEA MLB 236 206 30 42 6 0 11 81 20 26 62 3 1 .204 .298 .393 .189 1 1

Plate Discipline

YEAR Pits Zone% Swing% Contact% Z-Swing% O-Swing% Z-Contact% O-Contact% SwStr% CSAA
2008 2606 0.5008 0.3891 0.7604 0.5625 0.2152 0.8351 0.5643 0.2396 0.0072
2009 2520 0.4972 0.4020 0.7068 0.5810 0.2249 0.7857 0.5053 0.2932 0.0019
2010 1512 0.5251 0.4511 0.7126 0.6310 0.2521 0.8104 0.4420 0.2874 -0.0032
2011 1966 0.4985 0.4242 0.7482 0.5969 0.2525 0.8342 0.5462 0.2518 -0.0042
2012 832 0.4916 0.3666 0.7279 0.5599 0.1797 0.8297 0.4211 0.2721 0.0007
2013 945 0.4974 0.4053 0.7232 0.5745 0.2379 0.8111 0.5133 0.2768 -0.0004
Career103810.50200.40760.73210.58440.22920.81670.51260.26790.0010

Injury History  —  No longer being updated

Last Update: 12/31/2014 23:59 ET

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
2013-06-17 2013-06-23 DTD 6 6 - Thigh Strain Hamstring - -
2012-09-23 2012-09-28 DTD 5 5 - Low Back Stiffness - -
2012-06-16 2012-07-17 15-DL 31 24 - Head Concussion Running Into Wall - -
2012-06-07 2012-06-08 DTD 1 1 - General Medical Illness - -
2012-04-24 2012-06-06 15-DL 43 40 Left Trunk Fracture Rib - -
2012-04-15 2012-04-16 DTD 1 1 Right Fingers Sprain Index Finger - -
2011-09-25 2011-09-27 DTD 2 2 - General Medical Illness Flu -
2011-09-19 2011-09-24 DTD 5 3 - General Medical Illness Flu - -
2011-09-13 2011-09-14 DTD 1 1 Right Shoulder Soreness While Diving - -
2011-08-25 2011-08-29 DTD 4 1 Right Shoulder Soreness - -
2011-07-21 2011-07-23 DTD 2 2 Right Thigh Soreness Hamstring - -
2011-06-25 2011-06-26 DTD 1 1 - Neck Stiffness -
2011-05-24 2011-05-24 DTD 0 0 Right Lower Leg Tightness Calf - -
2011-04-26 2011-04-27 DTD 1 1 - General Medical Respiratory Flu -
2011-03-25 2011-04-21 15-DL 27 18 Left Trunk Strain Intercostal -
2010-07-26 2010-10-04 60-DL 70 63 - Head Concussion Running Into Wall -
2010-06-17 2010-06-18 DTD 1 1 Left Thigh Contusion -
2009-09-19 2009-09-20 DTD 1 1 General Medical Illness Flu -
2009-08-05 2009-08-09 DTD 4 4 Right Thigh Strain Hamstring -
2009-08-02 2009-08-05 DTD 3 2 Right Thigh Cramp Hamstring -
2009-05-02 2009-05-03 DTD 1 1 Left Ankle Contusion -
2009-05-02 2009-05-03 On-Alr 1 1 Left Ankle Sprain Lateral -
2009-04-13 2009-04-13 DTD 0 0 Left Wrist Sprain -
2008-06-26 2008-06-27 DTD 1 0 Groin Soreness -
2008-06-16 2008-06-18 DTD 2 1 General Medical Gastrointestinal GI -
2007-09-09 2007-09-15 DTD 6 5 Right Knee Inflammation -
2006-12-06 2006-12-06 Off 0 0 Left Knee Surgery Arthroscopic 2006-11-20
2006-09-23 2006-09-24 DTD 1 1 General Medical Gastrointestinal GI -
2006-08-14 2006-08-16 DTD 2 2 Right Thigh Strain Hamstring -
2005-08-20 2005-08-20 DTD 0 0 Trunk Contusion Rib Cage -
2005-08-01 2005-08-01 DTD 0 0 Left Knee Contusion -
2005-07-14 2005-07-14 DTD 0 0 General Medical Illness -
2005-03-07 2005-03-28 Camp 21 0 Left Wrist Sprain -
2004-07-04 2004-07-09 DTD 5 5 Right Shoulder Soreness -
2004-06-04 2004-06-04 DTD 0 0 General Medical Respiratory Flu -
2004-03-26 2004-05-07 15-DL 42 26 Right Shoulder Recovery From Surgery Labrum 2003-11-18
2003-11-18 2003-11-18 Off 0 0 Right Shoulder Surgery Labrum 2003-11-18
2003-05-26 2003-07-08 15-DL 43 40 Right Wrist Fracture -

Compensation

Year Team Salary
2013 NYN $18,125,000
2013 SEA $1,000,000
2012 NYN $18,125,000
2011 NYN $18,125,000
2010 NYN $8,625,000
2009 BOS $7,750,000
2008 PIT $5,750,000
2007 PIT $3,250,000
2006 PIT $750,000
2005 PIT $355,000
2004 PIT $305,000
YearsDescriptionSalary
10 yrPrevious$82,160,000
10 yrTotal$82,160,000

 

Service TimeAgentContract Status
10 y 36 dJoe Urbon1 year/$1M (2013)

Details
  • 1 year/$1M (2013). Signed by Seattle as a free agent 12/5/12 ($0.5M guaranteed). If he makes Opening Day roster, Bay earns $1M salary and may earn $2M in performance bonuses. DFA by Seattle 7/29/13. Released 8/6/13.
  • 4 years/$66M (2010-13), plus 2014 option. Signed by NY Mets as a free agent 12/30/09. $8.5M signing bonus. 10:$6.5M, 11-13:$16M/year, 14:$17M club option, $3M buyout. 2014 option guaranteed with 600 PAs in 2013 or 500 PAs in both 2012, 2013. Full no-trade clause. Released by NY Mets 11/7/12 (deal re-worked to defer portion of remaining $21M in exchange for release).
  • 4 years/$18.25M (2006-09). Signed extension 11/05. $1M signing bonus. 06:$0.75M, 07:$3.25M, 08:$5.75M, 09:$7.5M. Acquired by Boston in trade from Pittsburgh 7/31/08.
  • 1 year/$0.355M (2005). Renewed 3/05.
  • 1 year/$0.305M (2004).
  • Drafted by Montreal 2000 (22-645).

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BP Chats

DateQuestionAnswer
2012-11-08 13:00:00 (link to chat)Hi Maury, With the massive amount of debt the Wilpons have, combined with Irving Picard saying they have a very limited cash flow in his settlement reasoning, is there any chance they are forced to sell the Mets in the future?
(Tony from Queens )
I've been saying this for some time, but I don't see them selling. This deal yesterday with Jason Bay shows that there's more than one way to get creative (albeit, you'd think they would have learned with the Bobby Bonilla contract that deferring compensation past the time the player is with the club is really messing with payroll flexibility). The point is, I think that part of the deal with Bay is to free up some payroll space to potentially use in negotiations to extend David Wright and/or R.A. Dickey. That means, the club isn't really in "selling mode" at the moment, even under all the heavy debt weight. (Maury Brown)
2012-11-28 14:00:00 (link to chat)Considering the Rays luck with "buy-low" types of guys, plus noted possible interest in Chone Figgins and Ryan Raburn, does either player have anything serviceable left in them to make them another possible future success story for the team? Chone's tenure in Seattle seems to say that he wasn't a great everyday starter, but definitely didn't deserve to get mothballed as he did(considering Seattle's lineup and Safeco's park factors). Also, which team sounds most likely to give Grady Sizemore or Jason Bay long enough looks to see if either can regain past statuses as star-level players?
(jlarsen from chicago)
I don't know--what about Figgins suggests that he has something left? It doesn't seem to me that he was unjustly marginalized in Seattle. I'd rather take a chance on Raburn.

I'd say the Indians would be a favorite for both Sizemore and Bay, though both players are probably "minor-league deal with invite to spring training" types at this point? (Ben Lindbergh)
2012-02-20 13:00:00 (link to chat)If I don't start producing results at the major league level in the next 24 months, should I be fired? My draft record is suspect and I have very little to show for Jason Bay.
(Neil Huntington from Pittsburgh)
I'd have put you on notice already, so I think it's fair that your job is on the line over the next 2 years. It's also fair to point out that Kevin Goldstein puts you as having four five-star prospects, two of which (Cole and Taillon) are likely to arrive in the next couple of years. There's a lot of pressure on the pitching to develop, for sure. (Jay Jaffe)
2012-01-30 13:00:00 (link to chat)Have we reached the point where we can question if Neil Huntington is the right GM for the Pirates? The major league club is still terrible and while they spend money on the draft, this doesn't mean much if you continue to select the wrong players and/or can't develop them in the minor league system. He also has very little to show for the Jason Bay (his best trade asset)trade.
(Sasha from Texas)
It's very hard to judge a GM when he's trading a star, because almost inevitably he is not going to get good value back--you're moving something that has been established as good for things that are speculative, and by their nature speculative things often don't work out... Huntington's efforts would also look a whole lot better if Pedro Alvarez hadn't been such a bust to date, and few were second-guessing that signing at the time. (Steven Goldman)
2011-06-29 13:30:00 (link to chat)Who are your favorite players to deal with, both past or present?
(Gerald from Savannah)
Geez. That's a tough one because there are so many good guys I have dealt with in 24 years of covering baseball. I hate to leave people out but some of my favorites would have to include Sean Casey, John Burkett, Jay Bell, Craig Wilson, Jason Schmidt, Michael Barrett from the past. From the present: Jason Bay, Cole Hamels, Carlos Pena, Scott Rolen, Brandon Phillips, Nyjer Morgan, Neil Walker, Joel Hanrahan, Adam Jones, Max Scherzer, Don Kelly, Chris Perez, Adam Dunn, Matt Capps, Torii Hunter, Kurt Suzuki, Ian Kinsler. (John Perrotto)
2011-04-25 13:00:00 (link to chat)Is Jonny Gomes worth keeping? Will he keep up the production with this huge walk rate? Or would Jason Bay be a better pick up?
(Reginald from NY)
I wrote about Gomes last Friday, and I don't think we can expect him to remain a productive fantasy player. Given the way his ownership rates have skyrocketed, though, you may want to see what you can get for him in a trade. (Marc Normandin)
2010-09-21 13:00:00 (link to chat)The Mets should really move their fences in about 10', right? Otherwise, that Jason Bay contract is REALLY gonna smell come 2012 or so.
(dianagramr from NYC)
Considering their inability to identify pitchers that can help them out, I would say the fences should be pushed even further back. David Wright can still draw a walk whether the fences are 400 or 500 feet back! (Marc Normandin)
2010-08-26 13:00:00 (link to chat)Marc: Thanks for the chat. The Mets. Tyler Kepner in an article in the NYT this morning says, basically, the pitching is fine and up to a pennant race, it's run support that has doomed the Mets. (Defense isn't that great either.) We have certainly seen their inability to hit for Santana, who has lost three in a row recently because the team can't plate runs for him. And injuries don't tell the whole tale. Do you see this in the numbers? Is it mostly (home) park effects? This team was not, I think, built correctly to score runs at Citifield. Does your view of the numbers bear this out?
(BeplerP from New York City)
The offense isn't good, as you say. They have a .255 TAv, which is five points below the league average. So it isn't necessarily bad, but it's no better than the Athletics or the Indians, neither of which is known for their lineup. A couple of things: not playing Pagan every day, not having a healthy Beltran from day one, Jason Bay being concussed and not having a chance to redeem his seaso and Jose Reyes deciding walking isn't cool anymore put a dent in an offense that should have been much better. They were capable of being an 85-90 win team if things broke right for them, but they have had more go wrong than right.

That's not to say they are without blame of course--there were a lot of risky players on the roster (Oliver Perez, Jeff Francoeur)--but the lineup was designed to succeed at Citi. The problem was losing a lot of OBP sources that would have helped them in a park designed to help pitchers. Let's not get into how Jerry Manuel handled it though. (Marc Normandin)
2010-08-04 13:00:00 (link to chat)I know you lean toward the Yankee side of town, but what's next for the Mets? The core of Wright-Reyes-Beltran-Santana brought them only one deep playoff run. Put on your Omar hat for a second: Blow it up? Build around Wright/Reyes?
(Gino Felino from Brooklyn)
I won't put on my Omar hat because if I owned the Mets, Omar wouldn't have a head, which is to say that I'd probably make a change based on the Luis Castillo deal alone, never mind Oliver Perez. Castillo was an easy first-guess mistake, Perez probably had some chance of working out, not a good one, but a chance. Signing Jason Bay just to seem like they were doing something despite the poor fit was also a predictable misfire, and the panting pursuit of Bengie Molina just pathetic. In fairness to Minaya, we really don't know how much he's dancing on ownership's string, and it does seem pretty likely that all that Madoff business affected the club in some way. The farm system has been dead, and that's a big problem... If you "blow it up" but keep Wright and Reyes (which they should), what do you really have to trade? (Steven Goldman)
2010-06-23 19:00:00 (link to chat)What becomes of Pagan once Beltran comes back? Will Beltran even last more than a few weeks beore hurting himself again anyways.
(paulbellows from Calgary)
Everyone wants to talk about "what will happen to Pagan," and I mean I guess I get that, but I think the real question is - what happens to Jeff Francoeur? Because if you declare that Beltran is your center fielder and Jason Bay is your left fielder (and you should), then deciding who your right fielder is settles all else. And Pagan may end up being a victim of his own versatility and Jeff Francoeur's Reality Distortion Field. Because let's face it - Pagan was ALWAYS the better choice to be the starting right fielder. And you start to wonder if any amount of evidence will convince the Mets of that. (Colin Wyers)
2010-03-04 13:00:00 (link to chat)Hi Marc - I always look forward to your marathon chats. That said, I feel like Jason Bay's status in fantasy has fallen substantially, primarily based on his move to the Mets. Yet, how can his status now be considered worse than when he was on the Pirates - amongst a weak lineup in a ballpark not particularly hitter friendly. Yes, he should be downgraded based on the move from Boston, but it seems to me like he's being miscast as a 3rd tier OFer in contrast to his semi-elite status when he was with the Pirates. Thoughts?
(Milby from San Francisco)
Well, I ranked him in the four-star tier, right? I'm a little less enthusiastic about him than I would be were he still in Boston, but he's still pretty important.

I think people are too ready to lash out at him in 2010 for his eventually bad performance. (Marc Normandin)
2010-03-04 13:00:00 (link to chat)Can you help me choose a one keepers from this list: Jason Bay $12, Josh Hamilton $6, Rafael Soriano $4, Julio Borbon $4. Thanks.
(hhbliss from san francisco )
How did you get all of those guys at those prices? $12 is a steal for Bay. Hamilton's price is also awesome, but if he doesn't bounce back you'll regret not taking Bay. (Marc Normandin)
2010-03-04 13:00:00 (link to chat)Thoughts on Adam Lind? Seems to me he is peak Jason Bay without steals no?
(steve from Boston)
That sounds right to me. He's got a great, great bat, but sans steals. (Marc Normandin)
2010-02-02 13:00:00 (link to chat)I've read that the Red Sox asked Jason Bay to have knee surgery as a condition in their contract proposal before he had any symptoms. Is this true? If so, what did they see and how common is this in MLB?
(Counting down the days from Columbia, CT)
Peter Gammons reported this, though I have no first-hand knowledge of this. It's not uncommon that a team will advise surgery for conditions. That's what a team doctor is there for, to advise. (Will Carroll)
2010-01-14 16:00:00 (link to chat)Okay, so here's what I'm thinkin; people have had concerns with the Met's decision to sign Jason Bay, you know, with regards his defence. Now Beltran goes down. Shouldn't Omar Minaya make a deal for me...I like New York.
(Vernon Wells from Toronto?)
Vernon, I created a little toy defensive system (OPA!) a few years back, and it says that you were actually the worst defensive CF in baseball last year. Plus, that power you used to have is showing signs of fading. So yeah, you probably would do a pretty good imitation of an injured Carlos Beltran. (Russell A. Carleton)
2010-01-13 13:00:00 (link to chat)Hi John, how much will Jason Bay help the Mets? Do you think his fielding is as bad as the metrics say?
(mattymatty2000 from Philly)
I think Bay will help the Mets more than most people do He's a very underrated hitter. I'm in the minority but I don't think he's horrible defensively. He'll be OK. (John Perrotto)
2009-12-29 15:00:00 (link to chat)Who's the better batter the next four years, Jason Bay or Carlos Lee?
(jonkk1 from Elkhart, IN)
Lee. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-12-17 13:00:00 (link to chat)Should the Mets pay whatever it takes to sign Chapman? Would make up for no 1st round pick this year and lack of high level prospects. Seems a better risk/reward than blowing $12 million on Bengie Molina and $65 million to watch Jason Bay grow old.
(pjfsks from new jersey)
Dunno about whatever it takes, but yes if the cost is reasonable as it would help cover for the system's weaknesses, not to mention the shagginess of those potential free agent dogs. (Jay Jaffe)
2009-12-15 14:00:00 (link to chat)Thanks for the chat, Christina. You are one of the reasons I just re-upped my subscription for another year. Are you of the opinion, like your colleague Mr. Sheehan, that the Red Sox signing of John Lackey is a precursor to a trade for some offensive centerpiece? If possible please include at least one reference to a historical event over 200 years old in your answer. Thanks!
(mattymatty2000 from Philly, PA)
Thanks for your support mattymatty, definitely appreciated. I have to think that there's every reason to believe they'll deal pitching for offense, in part because the pitchers out there now seem attached to various risks (Sheets, Bedard, Smoltz, Wang, Washburn) or because they're just not seen as tremendous front-end types (Marquis, Pineiro, Washburn, Wang). If you decide the bids on Jason Bay are too rich for your blood, and you want to go after a better bat at either infield corner and maybe left (if the Mike Cameron thing doesn't work out), my sense is that the only better bargaining chip to have beyond well-regarded starters would be a shortstop prospect. (Christina Kahrl)
2009-12-09 13:00:00 (link to chat)Can one make a rational case for the Mariners' alleged interest in Jason Bay? I just don't see it, but Jack Z is undoubtedly smarter than me.
(mgibson from DC)
They can DH him, they don't really have a left fielder (Saunders didn't seem ready at the end of last year, and Endy is coming back from injury), and they seem to making a big short-term push.

The one thing I'm thinking is that they may have decided they can't sign King Felix, in which case they figure they should try to win in the next two seasons, and whatever happens after that, happens. I don't hate the plan if that's the case; better than wasting the last two years of him. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-11-19 13:00:00 (link to chat)Hi, Joe. Jason Bay reportedly rejected the Sawx offer of 4 years, $60 mil. Good move or bad move by Bay's agent?
(Phil S. from NJ)
That really seems like an upper bound for Bay. I can see wanting to wait out Holliday, but the one lesson from last winter is that teams have learned to quantify defense, and a guy like Bay gets eaten by the math. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-11-09 12:00:00 (link to chat)What's this year's market inefficiency? Last year it was an uneven economy that scared most teams off the big free agents and created a donut hole. Before that, defense, which was exploited by the Rays and Mariners.
(Michael from New Orleans)
It's still probably defense. Read Dave Cameron's piece on Mike Cameron vs. Jason Bay today. There are still lots of guys who are vastly underrated b/c most of their value comes from defense. (Shawn Hoffman)
2009-10-28 14:00:00 (link to chat)Do the Red Sox need any serious improvements over the winter or is this just a case of 'it didn't work this time but that doesn't mean it won't next season'?
(mattymatty2000 from Phillly, PA)
They've got to solve their shortstop problem given the fact that they finished 27th or so in Defensive Efficiency, they need a bat in left to replace Jason Bay assuming they don't re-sign him (and I wouldn't), and they need more rotation depth. None of those are unsolvable problems for a team with their resources and smarts. (Jay Jaffe)
2009-10-02 14:00:00 (link to chat)What kind of contract would you sign Jason Bay for? I wouldn't want to go longer than 3 years, or 3 with a vesting option. I don't think he will age well into his mid-late 30's.
(shall14 from Beverly, MA)
Sorry, folks, connectivity issue.

I would be leery of a long commitment to Bay. His defense hasn't really recovered from the knee injury, which limits his overall value. I'm not a big Matt Holliday guy, but Bay and Holliday will be comps this winter, and while I think Holliday will be overpaid, Bay might be *really* overpaid. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-08-05 13:00:00 (link to chat)Is there anything wrong with John Smoltz other than bad luck? His strikeout, walk, ground ball, and line drive rates are all very healthy.
(David from Evanston, IL)
While those components are healthy, his homer rate is terrible. I'm wondering how much of that is because he's serving up meat to the hitters, or just bad luck from a small sample. I will tell you that the Red Sox defense isn't doing him any favors. Their defensive efficiency is awful (thank Jason Bay, no Crisp coming in during the late innings, and a one-legged Mike Lowell for that one) and Smoltz's BABIP reflects that as well. I'm holding out hope, but I wouldn't say I'm overly optimistic. (Marc Normandin)
2009-05-14 13:00:00 (link to chat)Do you think Tampa Bay screwed up by failing to get Jason Bay last year? He would have been a good fit in right field, a good 3-5 right handed hitter they need and he is cost effective. While at the same time it would be sticking it to the Red Sox.
(madwizard from Bangkok)
In retrospect, probably. At the time of the deal, it's understandable and fits with their process. (Will Carroll)
2009-05-12 13:00:00 (link to chat)Is your "Hulk at Bay" write-up for Jason Bay a few annuals ago the one you're most proud of?
(Tony from Brooklyn, NY)
How did you know that was me? Okay, it was me. Sometimes you just have to share the little demonic ideas that get wedged into your head or you'll burst. "The Hulk at Bay" is also something I just find hilarious. He's at the edge of a body of water! Get it? Get it? Huh? Huh?

...Why isn't anyone else laughing? (Steven Goldman)
2008-10-20 13:00:00 (link to chat)I think the problem with the deadball era is that it's a completely different game. Offensive and defensive have ebbed and flowed throughout the years but different factors thereof still had similar relative values. It's hard to make sense of an era where scoring was way down, averages were way up, power meant triples, everyone stole at a 50% clip and usage and equipment changes since mean contemporary pitching is almost irrelevant as a comparison point. The sixties are a distant, distant second place in the whole "no rational frame of reference" game. And I say this as someone whose loved the era ever since you recommended Crazy 08 and The Glory of Their Times to me at the Boston book signing!
(jackalltogether from Boston)
Glad you took me up on those books. There are some really good ones. I also like "The Pitch that Killed," about Ray Chapman and Carl Mays... For me, history, even baseball history, is all about people and their high and low moments, their heroism, their villainy, the fact that they succeeded and failed just like you and me. The challenge as a writer is to bring them to life as people, not just stats. That's what I try to do, though it's sometimes a little difficult in the context of a 1500-word column. Also, even though all the differences you point out are true, a lot of the team-building and strategic problems are relateable. If I ask you to choose between PH A and PH B in a World Series game, and describe the strengths and weaknesses of each, we can second-guess along whether we're talking about Ty Cobb and Tris Speaker or Manny Ramirez and Jason Bay. (Steven Goldman)
2008-10-20 13:00:00 (link to chat)Ty Cobb and Tris Speaker vs. Manny Ramirez and Jason Bay? The Analogy Police have reported you to Joe
(jackalltogether from Boston)
That was totally random, of course. You really can't go wrong, can you? Bay is the one that doesn't belong, I guess. (Steven Goldman)
2008-08-01 14:00:00 (link to chat)Do you feel the Rays did the right thing by not doing a deal and sticking to their guns of not trading one of their top prospects?
(Tommy from OutPerSwing)
I'd have been inclined to move somebody, since not every solid prospect in their system is going to find a home in the Rays' big-league lineup or rotation, such is their embarrassment of riches. IANOPG (I Am Not Our Prospect Guy) but to me there was enough luster lost off of both Jeff Niemann and Reid Brignac to make that reported deal for a year and two months of Jason Bay to make sense. Now, I wouldn't have shelled out that for a Raul Ibaņez, but I'd have like to see them take a stronger shot at upgrading.

This certainly leaves them open to second-guessing if they wind up missing the playoffs, but I've got a pretty strong hunch this won't be their only opportunity. The window is just opening on their future of being a force. (Jay Jaffe)
2008-07-30 12:30:00 (link to chat)What are the odd that the Braves acquire Jason Bay from Pittsburgh? Do you know any of the names being tossed around that would go back to the Buccos in a deal like this?
(Jorge from Atlanta)
The Braves have been offering Brent Lillibridge and Brandon Jones but the Pirates want a third high-end propsect. (John Perrotto)
2008-07-30 12:30:00 (link to chat)What would the Rays give up in a Jason Bay trade?
(Peter from St. Petersburg)
They don't want to give up any of their high-end guys. They're offering a package centered around Perez and that ain't going to cut it. Bay is the PIrates' biggest chip and the one guy they feel they use to speed up a massive rebuilding process. (John Perrotto)
2008-07-23 13:00:00 (link to chat)Nate, Can the Pirates (with white flag flying) trade for decent pitching prospects without giving up what may be baseball's most productive outfield? or should they just wait for Nady and Bay to hit free agency and take the supplemental picks? Thanks, Frank
(Frank from Las Vegas)
To fail to trade Xavier Nady would be the mistake of the century. This is a career year being had by a C+ ballplayer, and to continue to get lumped in with Jason Bay in all these discussions is inflating his brand. (Nate Silver)
2008-06-23 12:00:00 (link to chat)John, do you see the Pirates dealing Jason Bay? If so, do you think they can get a package similar to what the Rangers received for Mark Teixeira last year?
(Peter from Beyond the Boxscore)
I think the Pirates will only deal Bay if they feel they can get two or three pieces who can help them now or in the future. If you look at the trade deadline the last few years, there haven't been many Teixeira-type trades. Furthermore, I just don't think a team is going to give up half its farm system for Jason Bay. He's well-regarded but not that coveted. (John Perrotto)
2008-06-02 12:00:00 (link to chat)John, will the Pirates trade Jason Bay? What is a reasonable return now that Bay is back to being one of the more productive outfielders in the NL?
(Joel from Washington, DC)
Yes, I think the Pirates will trade Bay closer to the non-waiver deadline on July 31 when his value is highest. I think a reasonable return would be a major-league ready player of good value along with a top prospect. They are not going to get a Teixeira-type haul for Bay but they should get something good back. (John Perrotto)
2008-01-15 14:30:00 (link to chat)Jason Bay was a budding star in 2005 and 2006, but took a huge step back in 2007. What is his outlook this season? Possible sleeper?
(Clay from St. Louis)
I'm not too confident about Bay, unless the reason for his decline was more related to his knee problems than I have credited in the past. He's a really late sleeper, in the sense that you wouldn't be overly embarassed drafting a former legitimate All-Star to see if he has one last go-around in the tank. I remember my profile being pretty pessimistic though, and I haven't shifted from that much. (Marc Normandin)


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