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Collateral Damage Daily for September 11



by Corey Dawkins

Collateral Damage for September 10 Collateral Damage for September 12

Jake Westbrook’s MRI showed a strained right oblique. He is expected to miss another start or two but is expected to return this season. … Xavier Nady did some light jogging yesterday and might be able to pinch-hit in a few days. … Jose Altuve is out of the lineup with a strained lower left abdominal muscle. He is day-to-day, but these injuries can linger. … Chris Parmelee is day-to-day with right groin soreness. … Jered Weaver is expected to start on Thursday after throwing a bullpen session yesterday. … Corey Hart’s soreness is more in the plantar fascia than the ankle. He is still day-to-day. … Sean Burnett threw a bullpen session and felt fine yesterday. He will likely need to wait until tomorrow to be cleared. … Jordan Schafer re-injured his separated left shoulder and is day-to-day. … Carlos Quentin left last night’s game early with right knee soreness. … Ramon Hernandez is day-to-day with a left hamstring strain. … Mark Teixeira will miss about 10 to 14 days for his aggravated left calf strain.

Additions

  • Lance Berkman gave it a valiant effort, but his knees just could not handle the rigors any more. He will undergo season-ending surgery (possibly career-ending) on his right knee. He’s scheduled to have surgery on the meniscus, but surgeons are going to check the articular cartilage, too. Joe Strauss noted that the Cardinals disputed the assessment of a compromised ACL. The ACL, if compromised, can be a significant contributing factor to meniscal troubles.

Subtractions

  • The Astros released Francisco Cordero after it was apparent he was not going to return in 2012. Originally placed on the DL with a sprained toe, he developed right shoulder soreness and was not able to recover quickly enough. He was disastrous while he was on the active roster. Cordero missed 39 days with the Astros after he was part of the 10-player deal this summer.
  • Clay Hensley is expected to return from the DL today after spending 15 days recovering from a strained right groin. The Giants hope physical therapy will help with Hensley’s pitch location.

Team            Player                  PosBody PartInjuryDLDescriptionDateAGL  ReturnATD
Henry Blanco

C

Thumb

Surgery

60-DL

UCL Ligament

  08/06

 85.0

  10/30

0.162  

Daniel Hudson

P

Elbow

Surgery

60-DL

Tommy John Surgery

  06/27

 105.0

  10/10

.016  

Brandon Beachy

P

Elbow

Surgery

15-DL

Tommy John Surgery

  06/17

 105.0

  09/30

.016  

Matt Diaz

LF

Thumb

Surgery

15-DL

Infection Foreign Bodies

  07/20

 85.0

  10/13

0.162  

Robert Fish

P

Elbow

Recovery From Inflammation

60-DL

  03/26

 22.0

  04/17

.000  

Jair Jurrjens

P

Groin

Strain

15-DL

  08/01

 28.0

  08/29

.029  

Ben Sheets

P

Shoulder

Inflammation

15-DL

  08/25

 37.0

  10/01

.035  

Nick Johnson

1B

Wrist

Inflammation

60-DL

  06/28

 25.0

  07/23

0.016  

Nick Markakis

RF

Thumb

Surgery

Fracture

  09/09

 85.0

  12/03

0.162  

Troy Patton

P

Ankle

Sprain

15-DL

  08/13

 21.0

  09/03

0.017  

Stu Pomeranz

P

Abdomen

Strain

60-DL

Oblique

  05/26

 29.0

  06/24

.000  

Nolan Reimold

LF

Neck

Surgery

60-DL

Bulging Disc Removal and Fusion

  05/01

 82.0

  07/22

.000  

Brian Roberts

2B

Hip

Surgery

60-DL

Labrum

  07/02

 90.0

  09/30

.086  

Jim Thome

1B

Neck

Cartilage Injury

15-DL

Herniated Disc

  07/28

 57.0

  09/23

.026  

Tsuyoshi Wada

P

Elbow

Surgery

60-DL

Tommy John Surgery

  03/28

 105.0

  07/11

.016  

Scott Atchison

P

Elbow

Sprain

60-DL

UCL Ligament

  07/14

 60.0

  09/12

0.019  

John Lackey

P

Elbow

Recovery From Surgery

60-DL

Tommy John Surgery

  02/21

 107.0

  06/07

.000  

Will Middlebrooks

3B

Wrist

Fracture

15-DL

Two Fractures From HBP

  08/11

 38.0

  09/18

0.066  

Franklin Morales

P

Shoulder

Fatigue

15-DL

  08/24

 37.0

  09/30

.049  

David Ortiz

DH

Lower Leg

Strain

15-DL

Achilles

  08/25

 23.0

  09/17

.039  

Ryan Sweeney

RF

Fingers

Surgery

60-DL

Fracture

  07/31

 71.0

  10/10

0.067  

Brian Bruney

P

Hip

Surgery

60-DL

Labrum

  06/25

 90.0

  09/23

.086  

John Danks

P

Shoulder

Surgery

60-DL

Repair Capsule Tear and Rotator Cuff and Biceps Tendon Debridement

  05/20

 111.0

  09/08

.020  

Gavin Floyd

P

Elbow

Strain

15-DL

Flexor Mass

  08/27

 49.0

  10/15

.008  

Matt Garza

P

Elbow

Stress Fracture

60-DL

  07/22

 103.0

  11/02

0.025  

Marcos Mateo

P

Elbow

Surgery

60-DL

Tommy John Surgery

  03/26

 105.0

  07/09

.016  

Blake Parker

P

Elbow

Contusion

60-DL

Bone From Batted Ball

  09/06

 24.0

  09/30

0.041  

Ian Stewart

3B

Wrist

Surgery

60-DL

Bone Fragment Causing Nerve Inflammation

  06/13

 82.0

  09/03

.000  

Arodys VizcaĂ­no

P

Elbow

Recovery From Surgery

Tommy John Surgery

  07/31

 107.0

  11/15

.000  

Bill Bray

P

Low Back

Strain

15-DL

  07/31

 28.0

  08/28

.040  

Ryan Madson

P

Elbow

Recovery From Surgery

60-DL

Tommy John Surgery

  03/26

 107.0

  07/11

.000  

Nick Masset

P

Shoulder

Surgery

60-DL

Capsule

  03/26

 111.0

  07/15

.020  

Kristopher NegrĂłn

2B

Knee

Recovery From Surgery

15-DL

ACL

  08/31

 48.0

  10/18

.000  

Carlos Carrasco

P

Elbow

Recovery From Surgery

60-DL

Tommy John Surgery

  03/15

 107.0

  06/30

.000  

Travis Hafner

DH

Low Back

Cartilage Injury

15-DL

Bulging Disc

  08/06

 42.0

  09/17

0.032  

Rafael Perez

P

Shoulder

Strain

60-DL

Latissimus Dorsi

  04/26

 46.0

  06/11

.021  

Grady Sizemore

CF

Low Back

Recovery From Surgery

60-DL

Microdiscectomy

  03/26

 33.0

  04/28

.000  

Josh Tomlin

P

Elbow

Surgery

60-DL

Tommy John Surgery

  08/13

 105.0

  11/26

.016  

Michael Cuddyer

RF

Abdomen

Strain

15-DL

Oblique

  08/19

 29.0

  09/17

.000  

Jorge De La Rosa

P

Elbow

Recovery From Surgery

60-DL

Tommy John Surgery

  03/26

 107.0

  07/11

.000  

Christian Friedrich

P

Low Back

Stress Fracture

15-DL

  07/31

 83.0

  10/22

0.042  

Todd Helton

1B

Hip

Surgery

60-DL

Labrum

  08/06

 90.0

  11/04

.086  

Juan Nicasio

P

Knee

Surgery

15-DL

Patella Microfracture and Loose Bodies

  06/03

 56.0

  07/29

.024  

Jonathan Sánchez

P

Upper Arm

Inflammation

15-DL

Biceps

  08/04

 41.0

  09/14

0.032  

Troy Tulowitzki

SS

Groin

Surgery

15-DL

Scar Tissue Near Nerve

  05/31

 85.0

  08/24

.000  

Eric Young Jr.

OF

Trunk

Strain

15-DL

Intercostal

  08/20

 31.0

  09/20

.011  

Victor Martinez

IF

Knee

Recovery From Surgery

60-DL

Microfracture

  03/13

 48.0

  04/30

.000  

Daniel Schlereth

P

Shoulder

Strain

60-DL

Rotator Cuff

  04/22

 46.0

  06/07

.021  

Francisco Cordero

P

Sprain

15-DL

Ligament

  08/02

 25.0

  08/27

.099  

Sergio Escalona

P

Elbow

Recovery From Surgery

60-DL

Tommy John Surgery

  03/26

 107.0

  07/11

.000  

J.A. Happ

P

Foot

Fracture

15-DL

  09/04

 22.0

  09/26

.038  

Jed Lowrie

2B

Ankle

Neurological Injury

15-DL

Peroneal Nerve After Spraining Ankle

  07/15

 21.0

  08/05

0.017  

Kyle Weiland

P

Shoulder

Surgery

60-DL

Bursitis and Infection

  04/22

 111.0

  08/11

.020  

Danny Duffy

P

Elbow

Surgery

60-DL

Tommy John Surgery

  05/14

 105.0

  08/27

.016  

Chris Getz

2B

Thumb

Surgery

15-DL

Fracture

  08/18

 85.0

  11/11

0.162  

Felipe Paulino

P

Elbow

Surgery

15-DL

Tommy John Surgery

  06/07

 105.0

  09/20

.016  

Joakim Soria

P

Elbow

Recovery From Surgery

60-DL

Tommy John Surgery

  04/04

 107.0

  07/20

.000  

Blake Wood

P

Elbow

Surgery

60-DL

Tommy John Surgery

  03/26

 105.0

  07/09

.016  

Michael Kohn

P

Elbow

Surgery

60-DL

Tommy John Surgery

  03/27

 105.0

  07/10

.016  

Jeremy Moore

RF

Hip

Recovery From Surgery

60-DL

  03/26

 26.0

  04/21

.000  

Chad Billingsley

P

Elbow

Inflammation

60-DL

Partial UCL Ligament Tear and Flexor Tendon

  08/25

 36.0

  09/30

.041  

Todd Coffey

P

Elbow

Surgery

60-DL

Tommy John Surgery

  07/03

 105.0

  10/16

.016  

Carl Crawford

LF

Elbow

Recovery From Surgery

Tommy John Surgery

  08/25

 107.0

  12/10

.000  

Scott Elbert

P

Elbow

Soreness

15-DL

  08/27

 41.0

  10/07

.064  

Javy Guerra

P

Abdomen

Strain

15-DL

Oblique

  09/03

 29.0

  10/02

.000  

Jerry Hairston

2B

Hip

Surgery

60-DL

  08/12

 90.0

  11/10

.086  

Blake Hawksworth

P

Elbow

Recovery From Surgery

60-DL

Scar Tissue + Bone Spur + Infection

  03/27

 107.0

  07/12

.000  

Adam Kennedy

2B

Groin

Strain

60-DL

  09/08

 28.0

  10/06

.029  

Ted Lilly

P

Shoulder

Inflammation

60-DL

  05/24

 37.0

  06/30

.035  

Justin Sellers

SS

Low Back

Surgery

60-DL

Bulging Disc

  05/23

 106.0

  09/06

.068  

Alfredo Silverio

LF

Elbow

Recovery From Surgery

60-DL

Tommy John Surgery

  09/01

 107.0

  12/17

.000  

Dee Strange-Gordon

2B

Thumb

Surgery

60-DL

Dislocation & Torn UCL From Sliding

  07/05

 85.0

  09/28

0.162  

Chris Withrow

P

Chest

Strain

60-DL

Pectoral

  09/02

 68.0

  11/09

0.002  

Emilio Bonifácio

OF

Knee

Sprain

15-DL

  08/22

 29.0

  09/20

.052  

Jose Ceda

P

Elbow

Surgery

60-DL

Tommy John Surgery

  03/28

 105.0

  07/11

.016  

Nick Green

2B

Thumb

Sprain

15-DL

  08/13

 31.0

  09/13

.034  

Logan Morrison

1B

Knee

Surgery

60-DL

Patellar Tendon

  07/29

 56.0

  09/23

.024  

Juan Carlos Oviedo

P

Elbow

Surgery

60-DL

Tommy John Surgery

  07/23

 105.0

  11/05

.016  

Mat Gamel

3B

Knee

Surgery

60-DL

ACL

  05/02

 56.0

  06/27

.024  

Alex Gonzalez

SS

Knee

Surgery

60-DL

ACL

  05/06

 56.0

  07/01

.024  

Chris Narveson

P

Shoulder

Surgery

60-DL

Rotator Cuff Tears

  04/16

 111.0

  08/05

.020  

Scott Baker

P

Elbow

Surgery

60-DL

Tommy John Surgery

  03/26

 105.0

  07/09

.016  

Matt Capps

P

Shoulder

Inflammation

15-DL

Rotator Cuff

  07/17

 37.0

  08/23

.035  

Carl Pavano

P

Shoulder

Sprain

60-DL

Capsule

  06/02

 51.0

  07/23

0.031  

Denard Span

CF

Shoulder

Sprain

15-DL

SC Joint

  08/28

 51.0

  10/18

0.031  

David Aardsma

P

Elbow

Recovery From Surgery

60-DL

Tommy John Surgery

  02/28

 107.0

  06/14

.000  

Cesar Cabral

P

Elbow

Stress Fracture

60-DL

Olecranon

  03/31

 103.0

  07/12

0.025  

Pedro Feliciano

P

Shoulder

Recovery From Surgery

60-DL

Rotator Cuff and Capsule

  02/22

 114.0

  06/15

.000  

Brett Gardner

LF

Elbow

Surgery

60-DL

Inflamed Tissue and Bone Spur

  04/18

 105.0

  08/01

.016  

Brad Meyers

P

Shoulder

Cartilage Injury

60-DL

Labrum

  03/26

 74.0

  06/08

.041  

Andy Pettitte

P

Lower Leg

Fracture

60-DL

Fibula Batted Ball

  06/28

 63.0

  08/30

.000  

Michael Pineda

P

Shoulder

Surgery

60-DL

Labrum

  03/31

 111.0

  07/20

.020  

Mariano Rivera

P

Knee

Surgery

60-DL

ACL and Meniscus

  05/04

 56.0

  06/29

.024  

Tim Byrdak

P

Shoulder

Surgery

60-DL

Anterior Capsule Tear

  08/02

 111.0

  11/21

.020  

Dillon Gee

P

Shoulder

Surgery

60-DL

Clot and Subsequent Artery Replacement

  07/08

 111.0

  10/27

.020  

Rob Johnson

C

Thumb

Sprain

60-DL

Ligament

  08/13

 31.0

  09/13

.034  

Mike Pelfrey

P

Elbow

Surgery

60-DL

Tommy John Surgery

  04/22

 105.0

  08/05

.016  

Johan Santana

P

Low Back

Inflammation

15-DL

  08/18

 77.0

  11/03

.000  

Dallas Braden

P

Shoulder

Surgery

60-DL

Partial Rotator Cuff Tear

  03/24

 111.0

  07/13

.020  

Andrew Carignan

P

Elbow

Surgery

60-DL

Tommy John Surgery

  06/06

 105.0

  09/19

.016  

Joey Devine

P

Elbow

Surgery

60-DL

Tommy John Surgery

  03/24

 105.0

  07/07

.016  

Brandon Inge

3B

Shoulder

Surgery

15-DL

Dislocation

  09/02

 111.0

  12/22

.020  

Brandon McCarthy

P

Head

Surgery

Skull Fracture and Epidural Hematoma

  09/06

 30.0

  07/20

.001  

Jordan Norberto

P

Shoulder

Inflammation

15-DL

  08/18

 37.0

  09/24

.035  

Scott Sizemore

3B

Knee

Surgery

60-DL

ACL

  03/07

 56.0

  05/02

.024  

Eric Sogard

2B

Back

Strain

15-DL

  08/07

 44.0

  09/20

.018  

Jose Contreras

P

Elbow

Sprain

60-DL

Flexor Pronator and UCL

  06/02

 60.0

  08/01

0.019  

Freddy Galvis

SS

Low Back

Fracture

15-DL

Pars Fracture

  06/07

 40.0

  07/17

.000  

David Herndon

P

Elbow

Surgery

60-DL

Tommy John Surgery

  04/30

 105.0

  08/13

.016  

Placido Polanco

2B

Low Back

Inflammation

15-DL

  09/05

 77.0

  11/21

.000  

Brian Schneider

C

Thigh

Strain

15-DL

Hamstring

  08/24

 28.0

  09/21

.018  

Michael Stutes

P

Shoulder

Surgery

60-DL

Rotator Cuff

  04/22

 111.0

  08/11

.020  

Raul Valdes

P

Knee

Surgery

15-DL

Meniscus

  08/31

 56.0

  10/26

.024  

Vance Worley

P

Elbow

Surgery

15-DL

Bone Spur and Bone Chips

  08/29

 105.0

  12/12

.016  

Charlie Morton

P

Elbow

Surgery

60-DL

Tommy John Surgery

  05/30

 105.0

  09/12

.016  

Gustavo Nunez

SS

Ankle

Surgery

60-DL

  02/19

 71.0

  04/30

.000  

Neil Walker

2B

Low Back

Tightness

  08/27

 42.0

  10/08

.048  

Kyle Blanks

LF

Shoulder

Surgery

60-DL

Labrum

  04/14

 111.0

  08/03

.020  

James Darnell

3B

Shoulder

Surgery

60-DL

Capsule From Dislocation

  05/18

 111.0

  09/06

.020  

Nick Hundley

C

Knee

Surgery

60-DL

Meniscus

  08/16

 56.0

  10/11

.024  

Cory Luebke

P

Elbow

Surgery

60-DL

Tommy John Surgery and Flexor Mass Tendon

  04/28

 105.0

  08/11

.016  

Jason Marquis

P

Wrist

Fracture

15-DL

Batted Ball

  08/22

 38.0

  09/29

0.066  

Dustin Moseley

P

Shoulder

Surgery

60-DL

Labrum and Rotator Cuff

  04/08

 111.0

  07/28

.020  

Micah Owings

P

Elbow

Surgery

60-DL

Loose Bodies

  04/26

 105.0

  08/09

.016  

Tim Stauffer

P

Elbow

Surgery

60-DL

Flexor Mass

  05/15

 105.0

  08/28

.016  

Huston Street

P

Lower Leg

Strain

15-DL

Calf

  08/11

 23.0

  09/03

.039  

Joe Wieland

P

Elbow

Surgery

60-DL

Tommy John Surgery

  05/07

 105.0

  08/20

.016  

George Sherrill

P

Elbow

Surgery

60-DL

Tommy John and Flexor Mass

  04/10

 105.0

  07/24

.016  

Clay Hensley

P

Groin

Strain

15-DL

  08/27

 28.0

  09/24

.029  

Freddy Sanchez

2B

Shoulder

Recovery From Surgery

60-DL

Labrum

  03/26

 114.0

  07/18

.000  

Eric Surkamp

P

Elbow

Surgery

60-DL

Tommy John Surgery

  03/26

 105.0

  07/09

.016  

Brian Wilson

P

Elbow

Surgery

60-DL

Tommy John Surgery

  04/13

 105.0

  07/27

.016  

Lance Berkman

1B

Knee

Surgery

Mensiscus and Arthritis

  09/08

 56.0

  11/03

.024  

Chris Carpenter

P

Shoulder

Surgery

60-DL

Thoracic Outlet Syndrome

  03/26

 111.0

  07/15

.020  

Rafael Furcal

SS

Elbow

Sprain

15-DL

UCL

  08/31

 60.0

  10/30

0.019  

Kyle McClellan

P

Elbow

Sprain

60-DL

Strain UCL and Partial Tear Flexor Tendon

  05/18

 60.0

  07/17

0.019  

Robinson Chirinos

C

Head

Recovery From Concussion

60-DL

  03/26

 60.0

  05/25

.000  

Brandon Guyer

OF

Shoulder

Surgery

60-DL

Labrum

  05/13

 111.0

  09/01

.020  

Sean RodrĂ­guez

3B

Hand

Recovery From Fracture

15-DL

Punching a Locker

  08/31

 51.0

  10/21

.000  

NeftalĂ­ Feliz

P

Elbow

Surgery

60-DL

Tommy John Surgery

  05/19

 105.0

  09/01

.016  

Colby Lewis

P

Elbow

Surgery

60-DL

Torn Flexor Tendon

  07/19

 105.0

  11/01

.016  

Mike Napoli

1B

Thigh

Strain

15-DL

Quad

  08/11

 28.0

  09/08

.018  

Robbie Ross Jr.

P

Forearm

Strain

15-DL

  08/30

 36.0

  10/05

.001  

Robert Coello

P

Elbow

Inflammation

60-DL

  06/25

 36.0

  07/31

.041  

David Cooper

1B

Neck

Soreness

15-DL

Diving Back

  08/23

 15.0

  09/07

.000  

Kyle Drabek

P

Elbow

Surgery

60-DL

Tommy John Surgery

  06/14

 105.0

  09/27

.016  

Drew Hutchison

P

Elbow

Surgery

60-DL

Tommy John Surgery

  06/16

 105.0

  09/29

.016  

Jesse Litsch

P

Shoulder

Surgery

60-DL

Recovery From Infection After PRP Injection for Inflammation with Subsequent Biceps Tendon Surgery

  03/26

 111.0

  07/15

.020  

Dustin McGowan

P

Shoulder

Surgery

60-DL

Debridement Multiple Areas

  03/26

 111.0

  07/15

.020  

Luis Perez

P

Elbow

Surgery

60-DL

Tommy John Surgery

  07/09

 105.0

  10/22

.016  

Sergio Santos

P

Shoulder

Surgery

60-DL

Fraying Labrum

  04/21

 111.0

  08/10

.020  

Cole Kimball

P

Shoulder

Recovery From Surgery

60-DL

Rotator Cuff

  03/26

 114.0

  07/18

.000  

Wilson Ramos

C

Knee

Surgery

60-DL

Meniscus Severe Damage

  05/13

 56.0

  07/08

.024  

Henry Rodriguez

P

Low Back

Strain

60-DL

  08/01

 28.0

  08/29

.040  

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