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Portrait of Ted Lilly

Ted Lilly PBlue Jays

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Career Summary
Years G IP W L SV ERA WARP
18 356 1982.7 130 113 0 4.14 30.4
Birth Date1-4-1976
Height6' 0"
Weight195 lbs
Age43 years, 9 months, 19 days
BatsL
ThrowsL
WARP Summary

MLB Statistics

Historical (past-seasons) WARP is now based on DRA..
cFIP and DRA are not available on a by-team basis and display as zeroes(0). See TOT line for season totals of these stats.
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YEAR Team Lg G GS IP W L SV H BB SO HR PPF H/9 BB/9 HR/9 K/9 GB% BABIP WHIP FIP ERA cFIP DRA DRA- WARP
1999 MON MLB 9 3 23.7 0 1 0 30 9 28 7 95 11.4 3.4 2.7 10.6 0% .365 1.65 6.07 7.61 94 3.80 73.9 0.6
2000 NYA MLB 7 0 8.0 0 0 0 8 5 11 1 82 9.0 5.6 1.1 12.4 0% .318 1.63 3.97 5.63 102 4.61 88.8 0.1
2001 NYA MLB 26 21 120.7 5 6 0 126 51 112 20 94 9.4 3.8 1.5 8.4 0% .305 1.47 4.83 5.37 99 4.35 90.2 1.9
2002 NYA 0 16 11 76.7 3 6 0 57 24 59 10 95 6.7 2.8 1.2 6.9 0% .218 1.06 4.34 3.40 99 3.95 84.8 1.4
2002 OAK 0 6 5 23.3 2 1 0 23 7 18 5 94 8.9 2.7 1.9 6.9 0% .265 1.29 5.32 4.63 106 4.38 94.0 0.3
2003 OAK MLB 32 31 178.3 12 10 0 179 58 147 24 94 9.0 2.9 1.2 7.4 0% .288 1.33 4.25 4.34 98 3.95 82.8 3.5
2004 TOR MLB 32 32 197.3 12 10 0 171 89 168 26 106 7.8 4.1 1.2 7.7 0% .261 1.32 4.61 4.06 108 5.53 114.0 0.6
2005 TOR MLB 25 25 126.3 10 11 0 135 58 96 23 104 9.6 4.1 1.6 6.8 0% .290 1.53 5.34 5.56 118 6.70 144.2 -1.7
2006 TOR MLB 32 32 181.7 15 13 0 179 81 160 28 107 8.9 4.0 1.4 7.9 0% .288 1.43 4.83 4.31 104 4.96 101.0 1.7
2007 CHN MLB 34 34 207.0 15 8 0 181 55 174 28 104 7.9 2.4 1.2 7.6 0% .261 1.14 4.08 3.83 94 3.53 73.0 5.0
2008 CHN MLB 34 34 204.7 17 9 0 187 64 184 32 102 8.2 2.8 1.4 8.1 0% .270 1.23 4.37 4.09 101 4.14 88.4 3.2
2009 CHN MLB 27 27 177.0 12 9 0 151 36 151 22 97 7.7 1.8 1.1 7.7 0% .261 1.06 3.60 3.10 83 2.93 62.9 5.2
2010 CHN 0 18 18 117.0 3 8 0 104 29 89 19 99 8.0 2.2 1.5 6.8 0% .249 1.14 4.48 3.69 107 3.98 89.9 1.8
2010 LAN 0 12 12 76.7 7 4 0 61 15 77 13 90 7.2 1.8 1.5 9.0 0% .244 0.99 4.00 3.52 84 2.66 60.0 2.3
2011 LAN MLB 33 33 192.7 12 14 0 172 51 158 28 92 8.0 2.4 1.3 7.4 0% .260 1.16 4.17 3.97 99 3.38 78.5 3.9
2012 LAN MLB 8 8 48.7 5 1 0 36 19 31 3 96 6.7 3.5 0.6 5.7 0% .224 1.13 3.95 3.14 103 4.12 94.4 0.6
2013 LAN MLB 5 5 23.0 0 2 0 27 10 18 4 93 10.6 3.9 1.6 7.0 0% .303 1.61 5.15 5.09 105 4.71 112.7 0.1
2002 TOT MLB 22 16 100.0 5 7 0 80 31 77 15 95 7.2 2.8 1.4 6.9 0% .000 1.11 4.57 3.69 101 4.05 87.0 1.7
2010 TOT MLB 30 30 193.7 10 12 0 165 44 166 32 95 7.7 2.0 1.5 7.7 0% .000 1.08 4.29 3.62 98 3.46 78.1 4.1
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Statistics for All Levels

'opp' stats - Quality of opponents faced - have been moved and are available only as OPP_QUAL in the Statistics reports now.
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YEAR Team Lg LG G GS IP W L SV H BB SO HR PPF H/9 BB/9 HR/9 K/9 GB% BABIP WHIP FIP ERA cFIP DRA DRA-
1996 YAK A- NWN 13 8 53.7 4 0 0 25 14 75 0 4.2 2.3 0.0 12.6 0% .000 0.73 1.58 0.84 0 0.00 0.0
1997 SBR A+ CLF 23 21 134.7 7 8 0 116 32 158 9 7.8 2.1 0.6 10.6 0% .318 1.10 2.83 2.81 0 0.00 0.0
1998 SAN AA TXS 17 17 111.7 8 4 0 114 37 96 8 9.2 3.0 0.6 7.7 0% -.752 1.35 3.73 3.30 0 0.00 0.0
1998 ABQ AAA PCL 5 5 31.0 1 3 0 39 9 25 3 11.3 2.6 0.9 7.3 0% -.973 1.55 4.07 4.94 0 0.00 0.0
1998 OTT AAA INT 7 7 39.0 2 2 0 45 19 49 8 10.4 4.4 1.8 11.3 0% -.487 1.64 4.89 4.85 0 0.00 0.0
1999 MON MLB NL 9 3 23.7 0 1 0 30 9 28 7 95 11.4 3.4 2.7 10.6 0% .365 1.65 6.07 7.61 94 3.80 73.9
1999 OTT AAA INT 16 16 89.0 8 5 0 81 23 78 12 8.2 2.3 1.2 7.9 0% -.611 1.17 4.20 3.84 0 0.00 0.0
2000 NYA MLB AL 7 0 8.0 0 0 0 8 5 11 1 82 9.0 5.6 1.1 12.4 0% .318 1.63 3.97 5.63 102 4.61 88.8
2000 TAM A+ FSL 1 1 6.7 0 0 0 5 1 6 0 6.7 1.3 0.0 8.1 0% -.714 0.90 2.04 1.34 0 0.00 0.0
2000 COH AAA INT 22 22 137.3 8 11 0 157 48 127 14 10.3 3.1 0.9 8.3 0% -.757 1.49 3.66 4.20 0 0.00 0.0
2001 NYA MLB AL 26 21 120.7 5 6 0 126 51 112 20 94 9.4 3.8 1.5 8.4 0% .305 1.47 4.83 5.37 99 4.35 90.2
2001 COH AAA INT 5 5 25.3 0 0 0 16 8 30 2 5.7 2.8 0.7 10.7 0% -.350 0.95 2.77 2.85 0 0.00 0.0
2002 NYA MLB AL 16 11 76.7 3 6 0 57 24 59 10 95 6.7 2.8 1.2 6.9 0% .218 1.06 4.34 3.40 99 3.95 84.8
2002 OAK MLB AL 6 5 23.3 2 1 0 23 7 18 5 94 8.9 2.7 1.9 6.9 0% .265 1.29 5.32 4.63 106 4.38 94.0
2003 OAK MLB AL 32 31 178.3 12 10 0 179 58 147 24 94 9.0 2.9 1.2 7.4 0% .288 1.33 4.25 4.34 98 3.95 82.8
2004 TOR MLB AL 32 32 197.3 12 10 0 171 89 168 26 106 7.8 4.1 1.2 7.7 0% .261 1.32 4.61 4.06 108 5.53 114.0
2005 TOR MLB AL 25 25 126.3 10 11 0 135 58 96 23 104 9.6 4.1 1.6 6.8 0% .290 1.53 5.34 5.56 118 6.70 144.2
2005 SYR AAA INT 2 2 8.7 0 1 0 5 5 9 1 112 5.2 5.2 1.0 9.3 0% -.222 1.15 5.38 3.10 101 3.64 71.7
2006 TOR MLB AL 32 32 181.7 15 13 0 179 81 160 28 107 8.9 4.0 1.4 7.9 0% .288 1.43 4.83 4.31 104 4.96 101.0
2007 CHN MLB NL 34 34 207.0 15 8 0 181 55 174 28 104 7.9 2.4 1.2 7.6 0% .261 1.14 4.08 3.83 94 3.53 73.0
2008 CHN MLB NL 34 34 204.7 17 9 0 187 64 184 32 102 8.2 2.8 1.4 8.1 0% .270 1.23 4.37 4.09 101 4.14 88.4
2009 CHN MLB NL 27 27 177.0 12 9 0 151 36 151 22 97 7.7 1.8 1.1 7.7 0% .261 1.06 3.60 3.10 83 2.93 62.9
2009 PEO A MDW 1 1 5.0 1 0 0 2 1 2 0 103 3.6 1.8 0.0 3.6 0% .143 0.60 3.42 0.00 106 3.40 71.4
2010 CHN MLB NL 18 18 117.0 3 8 0 104 29 89 19 99 8.0 2.2 1.5 6.8 0% .249 1.14 4.48 3.69 107 3.98 89.9
2010 LAN MLB NL 12 12 76.7 7 4 0 61 15 77 13 90 7.2 1.8 1.5 9.0 0% .244 0.99 4.00 3.52 84 2.66 60.0
2010 PEO A MDW 1 1 7.0 1 0 0 3 1 9 0 97 3.9 1.3 0.0 11.6 0% .200 0.57 1.46 1.29 0 0.00 0.0
2010 IOW AAA PCL 1 1 4.0 0 0 0 1 1 4 1 92 2.3 2.3 2.3 9.0 0% .000 0.50 5.58 2.25 0 0.00 0.0
2011 LAN MLB NL 33 33 192.7 12 14 0 172 51 158 28 92 8.0 2.4 1.3 7.4 0% .260 1.16 4.17 3.97 99 3.38 78.5
2012 LAN MLB NL 8 8 48.7 5 1 0 36 19 31 3 96 6.7 3.5 0.6 5.7 0% .224 1.13 3.95 3.14 103 4.12 94.4
2012 RCU A+ CAL 4 4 11.0 0 1 0 10 2 7 3 101 8.2 1.6 2.5 5.7 0% .219 1.09 6.62 5.73 117 4.08 85.0
2013 LAN MLB NL 5 5 23.0 0 2 0 27 10 18 4 93 10.6 3.9 1.6 7.0 0% .303 1.61 5.15 5.09 105 4.71 112.7
2013 RCU A+ CAL 5 5 24.3 1 4 0 35 7 24 5 97 12.9 2.6 1.8 8.9 0% .390 1.73 5.69 8.14 107 7.11 154.4
2013 ABQ AAA PCL 1 1 6.0 0 1 0 8 1 5 1 125 12.0 1.5 1.5 7.5 0% .350 1.50 4.56 7.50 84 3.59 78.0

Plate Discipline

YEAR Pits Zone% Swing% Contact% Z-Swing% O-Swing% Z-Contact% O-Contact% SwStr%
2008 3015 0.5420 0.4697 0.7790 0.6212 0.2904 0.8296 0.6509 0.2210
2009 2573 0.5698 0.4854 0.7894 0.6180 0.3098 0.8311 0.6793 0.2106
2010 2893 0.5634 0.4770 0.8000 0.6141 0.3001 0.8252 0.7335 0.2000
2011 2983 0.5528 0.4874 0.8047 0.6289 0.3126 0.8361 0.7266 0.1953
2012 703 0.5377 0.4552 0.7906 0.5952 0.2923 0.8756 0.5895 0.2094
2013 407 0.4889 0.4521 0.7989 0.5779 0.3317 0.8609 0.6957 0.2011
Career125740.55320.47740.79330.61790.30330.83400.69170.2067

Injury History  —  No longer being updated

Last Update: 12/31/2014 23:59 ET

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
2013-06-05 2013-07-24 15-DL 49 42 - Neck Cartilage Injury Disc Injury - -
2013-04-30 2013-05-20 15-DL 20 17 Right Trunk Strain Ribcage - -
2013-03-28 2013-04-24 15-DL 27 19 Left Shoulder Recovery From Surgery Labrum 2012-09-21 -
2012-05-24 2012-10-04 60-DL 133 118 Left Shoulder Surgery Labrum 2012-09-21 -
2012-03-26 2012-04-14 15-DL 19 8 - Neck Stiffness - -
2011-08-20 2011-08-20 DTD 0 0 - Neck Tightness - -
2011-06-29 2011-07-05 DTD 6 5 Left Elbow Soreness -
2011-03-02 2011-03-07 Camp 5 0 General Medical Respiratory Flu -
2010-03-26 2010-04-24 15-DL 29 17 Left Shoulder Recovery From Surgery Debridement 2009-11-02
2010-02-22 2010-02-28 Camp 6 0 General Medical Respiratory Flu -
2010-02-15 2010-03-26 Camp 39 0 Left Knee Soreness -
2009-11-02 2009-11-02 Off 0 0 Left Shoulder Surgery Debridement 2009-11-02
2009-09-19 2009-09-30 DTD 11 10 Left Shoulder Inflammation -
2009-07-27 2009-07-27 On-Alr 0 0 Left Shoulder Impingement -
2009-07-21 2009-08-17 15-DL 27 24 Left Knee Surgery Meniscus 2009-07-27
2009-07-17 2009-07-20 DTD 3 3 Left Knee Inflammation -
2006-08-07 2006-08-10 DTD 3 3 Neck Stiffness -
2006-06-29 2006-06-29 DTD 0 0 Left Shoulder Stiffness -
2006-04-03 2006-04-08 DTD 5 4 Left Shoulder Spasms -
2005-07-25 2005-09-06 15-DL 43 39 Left Shoulder Inflammation Biceps Tendinitis -
2005-07-14 2005-07-14 DTD 0 0 Left Hand Contusion Batted Ball -
2005-03-25 2005-04-10 15-DL 16 5 Left Shoulder Inflammation -
2005-02-21 2005-03-25 Camp 32 0 Left Shoulder Inflammation -
2004-05-23 2004-05-24 DTD 1 1 Right Lower Leg Contusion Batted Ball -
2004-03-14 2004-03-24 Camp 10 0 Left Wrist Soreness -
2002-07-23 2002-09-10 15-DL 49 44 Left Shoulder Inflammation -
2000-03-25 2000-05-23 15-DL 59 40 Left Shoulder Inflammation - -
1999-10-20 1999-10-20 Off 0 0 Left Shoulder Surgery Small Labrum Tear 1999-10-20 -
1999-06-20 1999-08-11 Minors 52 0 Left Shoulder Inflammation - -

Compensation

Year Team Salary
2013 LAN $13,166,667
2012 LAN $11,666,667
2011 LAN $8,166,667
2010 CHN $13,000,000
2009 CHN $13,000,000
2008 CHN $8,000,000
2007 CHN $6,000,000
2006 TOR $4,000,000
2005 TOR $3,100,000
2004 TOR $1,900,000
2003 OAK $335,000
2002 NYA $237,150
2000 NYA $201,000
YearsDescriptionSalary
13 yrPrevious$82,773,151
13 yrTotal$82,773,151

 

Service TimeAgentContract Status
13 y 55 dLarry O`Brien3 years/$33M (2011-13).

Details
  • 3 years/$33M (2011-13). Signed extension with LA Dodgers 10/20/10. $3M signing bonus ($0.5M 4/1/11 and $1.5M each 4/1/12 and 4/1/13). 11:$7M, 12:$10.5M, 13:$12M. Full no-trade protection in 2011-12. DFA by LA Dodgers 7/25/13. Released 8/2/13. Retired 11/13.
  • 4 years/$40M (2007-10). Signed by Chicago Cubs as a free agent 12/06. $4M signing bonus, paid 1/07. 07:$5M, 08:$7M, 09:$12M, 10:$12M. No-trade protection. Award bonuses: $75,000 each for Gold Glove, All-Star. $0.2M for LCS MVP. $0.3M each for MVP, WS MVP. $0.3M for Cy Young ($0.2M 2nd, $0.15M 3rd, $0.1M 4th or 5th).
  • 1 year/$4M (2006). Re-signed by Toronto 1/06 (avoided arbitration). Performance bonuses: $25,000 each for 190, 195, 200 innings pitched. $50,000 for 210 innings pitched. $75,000 for 215 innings pitched.
  • 2 years/$5M (2004-05). Acquired by Toronto in trade from Oakland 11/03. Signed by Toronto 1/04 (avoided arbitration). 04:$1.9M, 05:$3.1M. Award bonuses: $50,000 for All-Star.
  • 1 year/$0.335M (2003). Re-signed by Oakland.
  • 1 year/$237,150 (2002). Re-signed by NY Yankees. Acquired by Oakland in trade from NY Yankees 7/02.
  • 1 year (2001). Optioned to Triple-A 8/01. Recalled 9/01.
  • Drafted by LA Dodgers 1996 (23-688) (Yosemite HS, Oakhurst, Calif.)

2019 Preseason Forecast

Last Update: 1/27/2017 12:35 ET

PCT W L SV G GS IP H BB SO HR BABIP WHIP ERA DRA VORP WARP
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Comparable Players (Similarity Index )

Rank Score Name Year Run Average Trend

BP Annual Player Comments

YearComment
2014 Lilly's season was once again decimated by injury, an element which defines his Dodger tenure. He got a late start after labrum surgery, then his return was delayed by a strained rib cage. After five forgettable starts in Los Angeles, a neck injury put him on the shelf for 45 days. Lilly was released upon his return, finishing his three-year pact with a total of 264 innings of 3.91-ERA baseball to show for the Dodgers' $33 million. The diminutive lefty retired in November, bringing an end to his 15-year seminar on overcoming mundane velocity through sequencing, strike-throwing and the occasional jam-ball on the hands. We'll always have his epic 2007 NLDS glove-slam.
2013 If anyone needed a reminder of Lilly's advancing age, they got it in 2012 as injuries slowed him down and then wiped out his season. A stiff neck put him behind schedule in spring training and he opened the year on the disabled list. He was outstanding through his first five starts, pitching to a 1.41 ERA, but scuffled through his next three, then went on the DL with shoulder inflammation in late May. He wasn't initially expected to be out long, but his timetable kept getting pushed back until he finally had arthroscopic surgery to clean up his labrum in mid-September. As of November he had begun throwing again, and the hope is that he can reclaim his spot in the rotation for the final year of his three-year, $33 million deal.
2012 Always homer-prone—Lilly's 1.33 HR/9 from 2001-10 was outdone by only three others who threw at least 1,000 innings—he more or less hit that mark again last year, but he was ill-served by his bullpen, which allowed a team-high eight of 17 bequeathed runners to score. His Fair Run Average ranked 11th among NL ERA qualifiers, just ahead of Ian Kennedy and Tim Lincecum, his WARP 29th. If not exactly a bargain, he more than covered the first year of his three-year, $33 million deal, and has delivered roughly the same value for the past four years despite superficially fluctuating ERAs.
2011 Twelve years to the day after being traded to the Expos in a deal for Mark Grudzielanek and Carlos Perez—he'd been a 23rd-round draft pick two years earlier—Lilly returned to the Dodgers in a trade that cost Blake DeWitt and two pitching prospects. With Cliff Lee off the market, he was the best starter available at the deadline despite a 3-8 record borne of weak offensive support (2.7 runs per game). Lilly couldn't revive the Dodgers' playoff hopes on his own, but he made a game effort via 10 quality starts out of 12. Lilly's bad luck on home runs per fly ball after coming over was mitigated by his ability to keep runners off base via a lowered walk rate and an abnormally suppressed BABIP; nine of his 13 homers allowed in Dodger blue were solo shots. In all, he finished with the league's second-lowest walk rate and second-highest home run rate. Diminished velocity (87.4 average fastball speed) may be enough of a concern to make Lilly's backloaded three-year, $33 million deal a risk, but he's a substantial upgrade over Vicente Padilla as the fourth starter.
2010 Often overshadowed by his more famous or exuberant rotation mates, Lilly has quietly become the Cubs’ best starter. His 5.1 SNLVAR paced the 2009 club, as does his total of 15.2 through the first three years of his Cubs career. An extreme fly-ball pitcher prone to the home run, the diminutive lefty has found success in Wrigley by keeping his walks down and his strikeouts up—essentially the Fergie Jenkins plan. Lilly’s fastball never touches 90, but he throws it inside, and by mixing in a slider, a change, and a big looping curve, he can use it to break bats. Off-season shoulder surgery will delay the start of his upcoming walk year beyond Opening Day, but that shouldn’t affect his production, or the entertainment value watching him work provides.
2009 Theodore Roosevelt Lilly might not charge up the hill like his namesake or even Craig Lefferts, but he's an underrated craftsman in a rotation built around more dramatic talents. His tateriffic tendencies and bass-ackwardness makes him someone to handle with care, but halfway through his four-year contract he's given the Cubs 20 quality starts or more in each season. He's not a star, but he's also a lot better than the fourth horseman he rates here. Add in his ability to cut down the running game and help himself out a bit at the plate, and he's an eminently likeable little lefty.
2008 Lilly went from unintentionally walking 9.4 percent of the batters he faced in 2006 to 5.6 percent in 2007. That not only helped his ERA, it allowed his workload to exceed the 200-innings barrier for the first time, since that improved command translated to lower pitch counts. Then again, he did tire a bit down the stretch following a 127-pitch outing in Colorado on August 9 (his ERA for the last quarter of the season was 4.69), and you can expect his walk rate to bounce back a bit. Still, his should prove to be one of the best contracts of signed between the 2006 and 2007 seasons.
2007 People remember Ted Lilly`s run-in with manager John Gibbons, which came in the third inning of the Jays` August 21 home game against the A`s. Lilly was pulled over his objection after he`d given up five runs against one out and still had two men on base. What they might not remember is that the Blue Jays were actually ahead 8-5 at the time, having teed off on Dan Haren. We aren`t lip-readers, and we aren`t privy to the exact words that Lilly and Gibbons exchanged on the mound or in the dugout tunnel, but it doesn`t take a genius to figure that Lilly may have wanted to go five innings to get a win on his resume with his free agency pending at the end of the season. Lilly and Gibbons were able to patch things up to the point at which Lilly strongly considered returning to the Blue Jays this winter before departing for Chicago. At least this sort of thing won`t be a problem with the Cubs, who would never have gotten Lilly eight runs of support to begin with. All kidding aside, the Cubs got one of the better pitching deals of the winter, provided they remember Lilly is a high-pitch-count guy and often needs bullpen help by the sixth or seventh inning.
2006 Lilly`s walk rate increased for the fourth year in a row; throw in higher hit and home run rates, and perhaps most fundamentally, an extended bout of bicep tendinitis, and presto, his ERA ballooned by a run and a half. He should be able to bounce back and provide 160-180 innings of league-average pitching, not a bad output from a fourth or fifth starter. Lilly is going to have to perform well to hold off the crowd of young pitching in the system; if the Jays are out of it by the end of July, he`ll be in demand at the trading deadline.
2005 While he's had back-to-back years that are eerily similar, Lilly might have a bit more improvement in him as he gets older and becomes better at placing his breaking stuff. The mental picture doesn't work, but there are enough skill and statistical similarities to Sid Fernandez, who pitched in much better run environments, that you can get a little excited about Lilly's upside. Fernandez's body broke down right about when he was at his command peak; his last full season was at 29. Lilly is 29 this year, and with just a little improvement in his command, could lop a run off his ERA.
2004 Velocity improved late in the year, as did the movement on his curveball. Lilly's always had good peripheral numbers, all the way back to his time as a farmhand in the Los Angeles and Montreal systems. He's still got a chance to be a front-of-the-rotation guy, but more likely, he spends the balance of his career as a #3 starter. He's always going to have an issue with leaving a meaty hanging curve in the middle of the plate against right-handers; the challenge will be making sure that they're solo shots. Traded to Toronto in a deal that brings Bobby Kielty to Oakland, a good trade for both clubs.
2003 When he came over from the Yankees, Lilly had a sore shoulder (similar to Jason Arnold), and went on the A’s conditioning program. He fought through an inflamed shoulder and some later blister problems, and by and large, he looked pretty good. He’ll start the season as the #4 starter, and he is an excellent candidate to break out and become one of the better pitchers in the league. Good control, good infield defense behind him, major pitchers’ park, and a high, relatively stable K rate. The promise he showed in the Montreal system could manifest itself at any time.
2002 People seem to have completely forgotten about Lilly as a prospect. He's still young, with good strikeout rates and solid control, and his career could develop in a couple of ways. With most clubs, he'd be an effective back-of-the-rotation starter with the potential to improve. With this one, he'll have to wait for an injury.
2000 Lilly would have been up sooner if not for shoulder problems that knocked him out for a few weeks in June and July. He had offseason surgery to repair a slight tear in his shoulder, but they’re saying he’ll be 100% by spring training. While his curveball was named the International League’s best breaking pitch in Baseball America’s tools poll, he’s not just a soft-tosser; he regularly gets his heat up to 93 mph, complementing it with a good change-up. He’s ahead of Armas in the line for the last two rotation spots and should hold one of them for the year.
1999 Boasts a 93-mph fastball, a solid breaking ball, and a nice resume for a 22-year-old. The Perez/Grudzielanek deal could turn out to be grand theft Lasorda. One warning sign: his fastball dropped to around 89 after he arrived in Ottawa, and the Expos were considering sending him to winter ball. If his arm isn't damaged goods, he's a potential star.
1998 Pitched well in a very tough league against some very good hitters. He’ll probably blow through San Antonio this year and Albuquerque in 1999. One California League opponent called him “A young Tom Glavine.” I didn’t know Glavine ever pitched in the California League, but I’d take that as a compliment.

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DateQuestionAnswer
2013-03-15 13:00:00 (link to chat)Hi, thanks for the chat. Who have you seen that may not have the best "stuff" but finds success because of really good at sequencing?
(The Shoe from Marvin Gardens)
Ted Lilly pops to mind. You can even point to late career Greg Maddux. I suspect it's a common trait with veteran guys, and a good research idea. We'll touch on this point a couple more times based on the questions in the queue. (Harry Pavlidis)
2013-03-21 13:00:00 (link to chat)Daniel, thanks for the chat. As the rumor guru, what is the biggest deal you think might happen before opening day? Conversely, what is the deal you would most like to see happen?
(LoyalRoyal from Tourney town)
I don't think we'll get any blockbusters over the next 10 days, but I could see the Cubs finding a taker for Carlos Marmol or the Dodgers unloading Ted Lilly or Aaron Harang. I would like to see the Rangers find a way to trade for an established starter, given that they have the prospect depth to do it, but I'm not sure that either Harang or Lilly would offer a material upgrade over their internal options. (Daniel Rathman)
2012-07-03 14:00:00 (link to chat)Derek- which rookies currently in the minors do you see having the biggest impact this season? Any do you see any of them as upgrades from say Cameron Maybin or Ted Lilly (bottom of my roster)? Thanks
(DanDaMan from SeaCliff)
At this point, it's pretty much all about opportunity. The Trouts and Harpers of the world are already here, and now it becomes a waiting game for a lot of guys. With Tabata getting demoted, that time could be now for a guy like Starling Marte. Some other names to consider: Wil Myers, Ryan Lavarnway (if traded out of Boston), Danny Hultzen, Jake Odorizzi, Jedd Gyorko, Johnny Giavotella, Mike Olt, Travis Snider. It's a gamble dropping an established big leaguer for one of those guys, but in a shallower league where they're just bench players anyway, gambling on some upside isn't a bad idea. (Derek Carty)
2012-04-19 14:00:00 (link to chat)Jordan Zimmermann has pitched like an ace the last two seasons, but has a losing record over that time, because the Nationals simply don't hit when he pitches. It seems that some pitchers are doomed to poor run support. Do you know of any cases in which particular pitchers suffered eerily poor run support over significant stretches of their careers? I don't mean pitchers who labored for terrible teams, but ones that got poor support even if their colleagues did not.
(HalfStreet from Fairfax VA)
The first name that comes to mind is Matt Cain, who -- after being denied the win in last night's duel -- remains just 70-73 for his career.

Ted Lilly, in recent years, hasn't had a whole lot of support. He had the fourth-fewest runs scored behind him in 2009 and the third-fewest in 2010.

And, if we're talking about a single season, Ben Sheets in 2004 is in a league of his own. (Daniel Rathman)
2012-03-26 13:00:00 (link to chat)I am betting on Tim Hudson / Ted Lilly in my deep league (20*35) in CBS. Tell me something I can hope for in the 2nd half of season.
(Tango from Seattle)
Neither one will be on a team-imposed innings limit? Really, though, drafting Ted Lilly is a sign of a smart fantasy manager. Or an autodrafter, I guess. (Sam Miller)
2012-03-06 13:00:00 (link to chat)My pitchers include Madson, Putz, Moore, Scherzer and Beachy. At the auction are Halladay, Greinke, Hamels, Dan Hudson, Felix, CJ Wilson, CC, Lester, Gallardo and Strasburg. I have plenty of money - who do you think is the best complement to what I have on hand?
(Kyran from Albany, NY)
That's a solid core, so grabbing a guy like Hamels, Greinke, or Gallardo could be enough if you add one or two more guys in the Scherzer/Beachy area, a Ryan Dempster or Ted Lilly type. (Derek Carty)
2010-12-02 13:00:00 (link to chat)Ken, I agree with you about middling, FA SPs. For example, why is Hendry looking at mid-level starters when he has guys like Wells or Gorz, who are at least as good and much cheaper?
(Matt from Chicago)
Agree -- although with the caveat that a one-year deal for a guy is fine. It's the 3-year, $10+M-per deals for average starters that wind up killing you. In Hendry's defense, though, he did pick the macaroon out of the cookie jar when he signed Ted Lilly, so maybe that's something he's good at. (Ken Funck)
2010-08-12 13:00:00 (link to chat)which current baseball player is capable of wrestling a bear to a draw or better result?
(Taco Salad from Spaceball City)
Ted Lilly. (Colin Wyers)
2010-07-26 14:00:00 (link to chat)How do you think the AL Central race will shake out, now that the White Sox have come back to earth?
(Kevin from MSP)
I picked the Twins at the start of the season, and I'm sticking with it. Part of that is based on the belief that they'll break character and make some moves at the deadline, since any starting pitching will help them. I thought it might be Haren, but that ship has sailed. Ted Lilly, a flyball pitcher in a big park, might be a good fit. They have the new park, they've signed Mauer long-term-now's the time to go all in. Be bold, Bill Smith, and mighty forces will come to your aid. (Ken Funck)
2010-07-09 13:00:00 (link to chat)What should a team expect if they trade for Ted Lilly? I've always liked him, but I noticed his strikeout rate is down this year, and his BABIP seems unusually (unsustainably?) low. Should I expect him to regress in the second half?
(The Flying Bernard from Narragansett, RI)
For most of Lilly's career--2009 being the exception--he's been a guy who should have had (or had) ERAs in the low-to-mid four range. Now that he's missing the strikeouts, I don't expect that to improve. In the right park I would like him, but given his tendency to give up homers, the falling strikeout rate and his need to be perfect with his control, I wouldn't want him being acquired in exchange for much of value. (Marc Normandin)
2010-07-09 13:00:00 (link to chat)So now that the Cubs are in a position of strength with Ted Lilly, how will Jim Hendry screw this up? Maybe offering him a late no trade clause like half the team already has? Why are the Cubs letting a lame duck GM control the July trades?
(Goose from Chicago)
You know, you guys should use Cleveland to make yourself feel better. I'd like to see a depressed fan-off between you two. (Marc Normandin)
2010-02-02 13:00:00 (link to chat)Do you buy the Cubs' version of Ted Lilly's shoulder surgery as basically a "cleanup"? If that is indeed the case, I would think he comes back stronger this year after gradually losing a bit of velocity over the past couple of years.
(Matt from Chicago)
Buy it? Eh, that's what it was. Clean up some fraying, wash out the bits floating around. There was nothing structural and he's throwing. Pick up velocity? No, maybe a bit, but since he's likely not 100% by Opening Day, I think it won't look like it. He's aging, but lefty, so it all evens out. (Will Carroll)
2009-10-11 13:00:00 (link to chat)Do the Cubs need to "sell" for tweaking purposes or a complete overhaul?
(Matt from Chicago)
I dont think a complete overhaul is possible. First, we don't know what direction this team will have from Ricketts. Will anything change or will Hendry still have a free hand? How much payroll room will they have? Will he mind sunk costs? How will the debt service affect things? Will he need to save some cash to build/renovate Wrigley? There's a lot of questions that have to be answered that the Cubs just aren't answering yet. I'm not even sure they know yet.

They're at $120m already and lets assume Harden's not coming back. If they can save anything on Bradley, they're a bit ahead of the game. The guy I'd consider trading is Ted Lilly - last yr of his deal, could have some solid return for the right team. (Will Carroll)
2008-08-27 13:00:00 (link to chat)Rich Harden, Ryan Dempster, and Ted Lilly all disagree that the Cubs are in trouble if Zambrano isn't pitching Game 1.
(jklein from TP)
That Harden trade just looks brilliant right now, doesn't it? But does that rotation really scare opposing hitters? Harden can be lights out, Dempster's going to get Cy votes, and Lilly's a good lefty, but it's not Webb-Haren-Johnson. It's not Shields-Garza-Kazmir, at least for dominance. It's not Beckett-Lester-Matsuzaka. It's not Sabathia-Sheets-whoever. (Will Carroll)
2008-08-27 13:00:00 (link to chat)Why would I gauge the effectiveness of playoff teams' Top-3 pitchers by the amount of fear they cast in the opposing teams locker room? harden, dempster, lilly are more than able to win the WS for the Cubs. how's that for anti-pessimism?
(jklein from TP)
"Scare" is a colloquialism. No one in the bigs thinks there's a pitcher he can't hit off of, but I'm saying there are guys that they would rather not face. Seriously, if I'm asking YOU to try and get a hit off a MLB pitcher, do you want CC Sabathia or Ted Lilly? (Will Carroll)
2008-04-29 14:00:00 (link to chat)other pitchers availible are, Dontrelle Willis,Ted Lilly,Francisco Liriano, Tom Gorzelanny, Ubaldo Jiménez, Jarrod Washburn, Jeff Suppan, Jamie Moyer, Shawn Chacón, Shawn Hill, Kevin Millwood, Andy Sonnanstine, See anything in there you like better the Hughes?
(dogtothedog from Toronto)
Sonnanstine's intriguing. Lilly's using the wrong pitches, from what I can tell. I like Gorzelanny, but I'd like him more if he'd stop hurting my own team's numbers. I'd take Sonnanstine for now, honestly. Phil Hughes is all kinds of messed up at the moment.

Sonnanstine's using a cutter more this year, probably to offset the number of fastballs in the zone hitters knew were coming in '07. It hasn't helped his strikeout rate, but he's lowered the number of base hits he's allowing. That's a tough crowd of FA, I'll give you that... (Marc Normandin)
2008-03-05 13:00:00 (link to chat)Pick one out of the three for next year. Ted Lilly, Oliver Perez, or Phil Hughes?
(Steve from St. Louis)
Ooh, that's such a tough question. I expect Perez to have the best starts, but probably also the worst ones. Ted Lilly should pick up a bunch of wins and strike out a lot of hitters, and Phil Hughes could be the most average or the most productive.

I'll get back to you. (Marc Normandin)
2008-01-28 13:00:00 (link to chat)How good is Christian Friedrich? I have seen some video and he does have a nasty curveball. Are the comparisons to Barry Zito fair, and how big of a concern are his walks?
(Tom from Atlanta)
I think Zito is sort of the natural comparison for a guy of Chris' caliber, with that nasty curveball and a solid-average fastball behind. Ted Lilly and Sean Marshall are the others I usually here in that category. But you're right, the key for Chris this year is going to be commanding his fastball and proving that it can be a weapon in the way that Lance Broadway's fastball has never been a weapon behind his curve. I hope to talk to Friedrich on the phone relatively soon, and when I do, you can bet I'll Unfilter it immediately. (Bryan Smith)


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