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Birth Date10-9-1986
Height6' 2"
Weight213 lbs
Age31 years, 11 months, 12 days
BatsB
ThrowsL
0.82014
-1.42015
-1.22016
-4.72017
3.02018
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WARP Summary

MLB Statistics

Historical (past-seasons) WARP is now based on DRA..
cFIP and DRA are not available on a by-team basis and display as zeroes(0). See TOT line for season totals of these stats.
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YEAR Team Lg G GS IP W L SV H BB SO HR oppTAv PPF H/9 BB/9 HR/9 K/9 GB% BABIP TAv WHIP FIP ERA cFIP DRA DRA- WARP
2009 TEX MLB 33 21 138.3 8 13 0 160 47 107 26 .263 107 10.4 3.1 1.7 7.0 42% .314 .278 1.50 5.13 6.12 110 5.75 123.3 -0.4
2010 TEX MLB 14 10 57.3 3 4 0 55 24 54 6 .254 114 8.6 3.8 0.9 8.5 42% .297 .265 1.38 3.99 4.08 103 4.64 104.8 0.4
2011 TEX MLB 32 32 198.0 16 5 0 201 67 162 22 .259 111 9.1 3.0 1.0 7.4 48% .305 .250 1.35 3.97 3.95 101 4.63 107.6 1.0
2012 TEX MLB 29 27 175.3 12 7 0 162 52 145 32 .261 104 8.3 2.7 1.6 7.4 44% .261 .264 1.22 4.70 4.67 105 4.71 107.9 0.9
2013 TEX MLB 33 33 213.0 10 9 0 210 64 189 20 .267 101 8.9 2.7 0.8 8.0 43% .307 .264 1.29 3.46 3.42 95 3.78 90.5 3.0
2014 TEX MLB 6 5 37.0 2 0 0 34 5 25 0 .260 101 8.3 1.2 0.0 6.1 42% .296 .222 1.05 2.21 1.46 95 3.11 76.3 0.8
2015 TEX MLB 10 10 58.7 4 3 0 59 17 41 11 .273 105 9.1 2.6 1.7 6.3 43% .281 .279 1.30 5.26 4.91 133 7.13 166.6 -1.4
2016 TEX MLB 22 20 107.3 7 9 0 116 35 67 15 .260 106 9.7 2.9 1.3 5.6 38% .295 .263 1.41 4.70 4.95 121 6.31 139.6 -1.2
2017 CHA MLB 29 26 135.0 7 14 0 156 75 104 31 .258 107 10.4 5.0 2.1 6.9 39% .307 .309 1.71 6.42 6.20 138 8.73 185.8 -4.7
2018 SFN MLB 33 29 163.7 7 8 0 144 63 165 18 .255 95 7.9 3.5 1.0 9.1 42% .287 .262 1.26 3.76 3.57 94 3.69 82.6 3.0
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Statistics for All Levels

'opp' stats - Quality of opponents faced - have been moved and are available only as OPP_QUAL in the Statistics reports now.
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YEAR Team Lg G GS IP W L SV H BB SO HR oppTAv PPF H/9 BB/9 HR/9 K/9 GB% BABIP TAv WHIP FIP ERA cFIP DRA DRA-
2007 SPO A- 16 14 67.0 4 5 0 57 21 83 7 .263 106 7.7 2.8 0.9 11.1 41% .299 .236 1.16 3.75 3.22 102 4.22 101.0
2008 CLN A 17 17 93.7 7 0 0 77 29 91 2 .264 100 7.4 2.8 0.2 8.7 52% .298 .229 1.13 2.58 2.40 83 2.32 52.7
2008 BAK A+ 5 5 31.0 3 1 0 20 5 37 1 .264 101 5.8 1.5 0.3 10.7 42% .271 .175 0.81 2.38 3.19 72 2.69 52.3
2008 FRI AA 4 4 26.0 3 0 0 14 6 29 0 .279 83 4.8 2.1 0.0 10.0 50% .205 .175 0.77 1.79 0.69 70 1.54 31.3
2009 TEX MLB 33 21 138.3 8 13 0 160 47 107 26 .263 107 10.4 3.1 1.7 7.0 42% .314 .278 1.50 5.13 6.12 110 5.75 123.3
2009 OKL AAA 1 1 4.0 0 1 0 5 3 5 1 .284 84 11.2 6.8 2.2 11.2 44% .500 .417 2.00 6.45 9.00 96 5.18 104.0
2010 TEX MLB 14 10 57.3 3 4 0 55 24 54 6 .254 114 8.6 3.8 0.9 8.5 42% .297 .265 1.38 3.99 4.08 103 4.64 104.8
2010 OKL AAA 11 11 62.7 6 2 0 50 18 51 5 .256 101 7.2 2.6 0.7 7.3 48% .253 .209 1.08 3.94 1.87 83 2.65 49.5
2010 RNG Rk 1 1 3.0 0 0 0 0 0 6 0 .260 100 0.0 0.0 0.0 18.0 75% .000 -.019 0.00 0.25 0.00 0 0.00 0.0
2011 TEX MLB 32 32 198.0 16 5 0 201 67 162 22 .259 111 9.1 3.0 1.0 7.4 48% .305 .250 1.35 3.97 3.95 101 4.63 107.6
2012 TEX MLB 29 27 175.3 12 7 0 162 52 145 32 .261 104 8.3 2.7 1.6 7.4 44% .261 .264 1.22 4.70 4.67 105 4.71 107.9
2012 ROU AAA 2 2 9.0 0 2 0 11 2 5 4 .290 88 11.0 2.0 4.0 5.0 50% .269 .348 1.44 8.99 6.00 101 5.18 99.2
2013 TEX MLB 33 33 213.0 10 9 0 210 64 189 20 .267 101 8.9 2.7 0.8 8.0 43% .307 .264 1.29 3.46 3.42 95 3.78 90.5
2013 USA int 1 1 5.0 0 0 0 4 1 4 1 .000 7.2 1.8 1.8 7.2 0% .214 .000 1.00 5.23 3.60 0 0.00 0.0
2014 TEX MLB 6 5 37.0 2 0 0 34 5 25 0 .260 101 8.3 1.2 0.0 6.1 42% .296 .222 1.05 2.21 1.46 95 3.11 76.3
2014 FRI AA 2 2 5.0 0 0 0 3 2 8 0 .260 102 5.4 3.6 0.0 14.4 67% .333 .175 1.00 1.12 0.00 81 2.98 70.2
2014 ROU AAA 4 4 15.3 2 1 0 20 8 19 5 .287 98 11.7 4.7 2.9 11.2 52% .349 .351 1.83 7.02 5.87 89 4.01 77.9
2015 TEX MLB 10 10 58.7 4 3 0 59 17 41 11 .273 105 9.1 2.6 1.7 6.3 43% .281 .279 1.30 5.26 4.91 133 7.13 166.6
2015 FRI AA 1 1 3.3 0 0 0 7 1 5 1 .236 119 18.9 2.7 2.7 13.5 67% .545 .338 2.40 5.09 8.10 89 2.73 60.8
2015 ROU AAA 3 3 8.7 0 1 0 9 5 14 0 .275 96 9.3 5.2 0.0 14.5 71% .429 .265 1.62 2.09 5.19 72 1.72 35.3
2016 TEX MLB 22 20 107.3 7 9 0 116 35 67 15 .260 106 9.7 2.9 1.3 5.6 38% .295 .263 1.41 4.70 4.95 121 6.31 139.6
2016 ROU AAA 3 3 10.0 0 0 0 11 4 8 1 .268 98 9.9 3.6 0.9 7.2 58% .312 .292 1.50 4.92 4.50 98 4.76 96.7
2017 CHA MLB 29 26 135.0 7 14 0 156 75 104 31 .258 107 10.4 5.0 2.1 6.9 39% .307 .309 1.71 6.42 6.20 138 8.73 185.8
2018 SFN MLB 33 29 163.7 7 8 0 144 63 165 18 .255 95 7.9 3.5 1.0 9.1 42% .287 .262 1.26 3.76 3.57 94 3.69 82.6

Plate Discipline

YEAR PITCHES ZONE_RT SWING_RT CONTACT_RT Z_SWING_RT O_SWING_RT Z_CONTACT_RT O_CONTACT_RT SW_STRK_RT
2009 2223 0.5335 0.4458 0.8042 0.5868 0.2845 0.8721 0.6441 0.1958
2010 1054 0.4810 0.4383 0.7944 0.6272 0.2633 0.8553 0.6597 0.2056
2011 3197 0.5099 0.4426 0.8035 0.5975 0.2814 0.8778 0.6395 0.1965
2012 2752 0.5302 0.4473 0.8042 0.6011 0.2738 0.8632 0.6582 0.1958
2013 3279 0.4974 0.4828 0.7732 0.6487 0.3186 0.8733 0.5714 0.2268
2014 570 0.4807 0.4965 0.7880 0.6460 0.3581 0.9379 0.5377 0.2120
2015 904 0.4425 0.4436 0.8229 0.6575 0.2738 0.8859 0.7029 0.1771
2016 1819 0.4876 0.4783 0.8276 0.6573 0.3079 0.8765 0.7282 0.1724
2017 2458 0.4825 0.4089 0.8109 0.5801 0.2492 0.8881 0.6435 0.1891
2018 2774 0.5011 0.4456 0.7516 0.5863 0.3042 0.8294 0.6010 0.2484
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Injury History  —  No longer being updated

Last Update: 12/31/2014 23:59 ET

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
2014-09-23 2014-09-28 DTD 5 5 - Migraine Headache -
2014-03-04 2014-08-30 60-DL 179 134 Left Knee Recovery From Surgery Microfracture - Patella Cartilage 2014-01-10 -
2014-01-10 2014-01-10 Off 0 0 Left Knee Surgery Microfracture - Patella Cartilage 2014-01-10 -
2012-06-06 2012-07-07 15-DL 31 28 Left Shoulder Fatigue - -
2012-06-05 2012-06-05 DTD 0 0 - General Medical Illness GI - -
2010-06-18 2010-06-18 On-Alr 0 0 Right Knee Soreness -
2010-05-31 2010-07-31 15-DL 61 53 Left Shoulder Inflammation Rotator Cuff -
2010-02-20 2010-02-28 Camp 8 0 Right Knee Sprain -

Compensation

Year Team Salary
2018 SFN $1,750,000
2017 CHA $6,000,000
2016 TEX $10,000,000
2015 TEX $7,400,000
2014 TEX $5,400,000
2013 TEX $3,200,000
2012 TEX $1,000,000
2011 TEX $431,810
2010 TEX $414,430
YearsDescriptionSalary
9 yrPrevious$33,846,240
2018Current$1,750,000
10 yrPvs + Cur$35,596,240
10 yrTotal$35,596,240

 

Service TimeAgentContract Status
7 y 120 dMartini Sports1 year/$1.75M (2018)

Details
  • 1 year (2018). Signed by San Francisco as a free agent 2/9/18 (minor-league contract). Salary of $1.75M in majors. Contract selected by San Francisco 3/28/18.
  • 1 year/$6M (2017). Signed by Chicago White Sox as a free agent 12/14/16. Performance bonuses: $1M each for 150, 200 innings. Released by Chicago White Sox 9/5/17.
  • 5 years/$28.5M (2012-16), plus 2017-18 club options. Signed extension with Texas 3/20/12, replacing 1 year/$0.5047M deal signed 2/27/12. 12:$1M, 13:$3.2M, 14:$5.4M, 15:$7.4M, 16:$10M, 17:$11M club option or $1.5M buyout. 18:$11.5M club option or $1M buyout. Prices of options may increase based on performance. Texas declined 2017 option 11/3/16.
  • 1 year/$431,810M (2011). Re-signed by Texas 2/17/11.
  • 1 year/$414,430 (2010). Re-signed by Texas 2/24/10.
  • 1 year (2009). Contract purchased by Texas 4/18/09.
  • Drafted 2006 (25-748) (Wallace State CC, Ala.) (draft & follow).

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Platoon

SORT_FIELD PLATOON AVG OBP SLG TAv
10 vs L (Multi) .256 .302 .322 .225
11 vs R (Multi) .272 .331 .462 .273
18 Split (Multi) -.016 -.029 -.140 -.048
19 LgAvg (Multi) -.020 -.022 -.064 -.025
30 vs L (2016) .247 .293 .286 .209
31 vs R (2016) .282 .341 .471 .275
38 Split (2016) -.035 -.049 -.185 -.065
39 LgAvg (2016) -.022 -.023 -.071 -.028

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BP Chats

DateQuestionAnswer
2017-09-21 13:00:00 (link to chat)It seems like the young contributors have clicked in the last month. Am I crazy for thinking that, even if the White Sox make no changes other than promoting Kopech and Jimenez next year, they could be legitimate second wild card contenders?
(Bob G. from Chicago)
I am generally more optimistic than the consensus about how soon this team could contend, and it is worth pointing out that the Angels and Twins hardly inspire a ton of confidence and here they are duking it out for a playoff spot.

That said, this is still a ~100 loss team that is being buoyed by having had a really, really good bullpen coming into the season. I think they'd need to add in free agency and continue to see super precocious growth from their elite prospects like Moncada and Eloy and Kopech. But if you take the hundreds of innings that are being covered by the Mike Pelfrey / Derek Holland types and replace them with anything resembling major league quality pitching you're looking at a big improvement already. I think 2019 is the year where you can start thinking about contention. (Nick Schaefer)
2017-09-06 13:00:00 (link to chat)In the wake of Derek Holland getting released, who is a guy you really thought would work out this year but hasn't. Or vice versa.
(jfegan from Chicago, IL)
The White Sox had a glut of fringe major leaguers on their roster this year and if you had asked me before the season which one I was most confident would play solid baseball in 2017 I would've said Tyler Saladino. The back injury was an obvious setback, and the bar wasn't particularly high in the first place, but Saladino has been wholly unremarkable for the entirety of the season. And with the emergence of other players, has gone from someone I was fairly confident would have a long career as a utility player to someone I have a lot of questions about. (Collin Whitchurch)
2017-05-02 13:00:00 (link to chat)George, I am in a unique 13-team 5X5 ROTO league. We use all of the AL teams and 2 of the NL teams (Cubs & Nationals this year). I have 2 offers I'd love your thoughts on: 1) Derek Holland for Michael Taylor; 2) Ervin Santana for Avisail Garcia. My pitching is strong, but bats are lagging behind. Thanks so much in advance.
(wbaker0621 from Connecticut)
I'm probably taking the deal for Taylor (power/speed with huge batting average risk) but keeping Ervin. (George Bissell)
2017-04-28 13:30:00 (link to chat)Ok, so sorry about the quality of the players in this Q, but 15-team, 30 man roster... Thoughts on Nate Karns so far? Would you drop him for JC Ramirez, Miguel Gonzalez, Derek Holland, Matt Cain, Erasmo, Shields, Brett Anderson or Nolasco? What type of FAAB bid?
(Craij's brother from another mother from Sandwich, UK)
Yeah I'd dump Karns pretty easily. I'd probably opt for either Gonzalez or Nolasco, as tepid as those waters are. (Craig Goldstein)
2015-09-09 13:00:00 (link to chat)20-team keep forever dynasty (no farm, prospects eat bench space): This is my 1st-2ndish go-for-it year which should start a 3-4 year window for a title-worthy team. To get me over the hump I dealt Longoria, Gomez, Ryu, Glasnow, and the 1-1 for Donaldson, Storen, and Wisler. On paper... that's a lot to give up, but I have Machado at 3B, Trout in CF (use LF,CF,RF), and only one Util spot. With a bullpen that already had 4 closers, I needed a RP to pair with Keon Kela for saves. it also allowed me roster space to activate Derek Holland. If I get even one flag in the next 4 seasons, trade will have been worth it, right?
(AJ from Phoenix)
Flags Fly Forever. (Christopher Crawford)
2015-02-13 19:00:00 (link to chat)Just to clarify - drop Greg Holland and keep Wade Davis? Or you thought about Derek Holland? I'm fighting for championship this year. Thanks for answer!
(navarra from Ukraine)
I thought you meant Derek. Keep Greg, yes. I'd probably drop McCann. (Mike Gianella)
2014-09-25 13:00:00 (link to chat)Derek Holland has been pretty awesome since returning. Is this just SSS or will he be a nice value in 2015?
(Leo from NYC)
This is real. I really like him as an undervalued asset in 2015. (Craig Goldstein)
2014-07-24 19:00:00 (link to chat)Is Justin Upton, Lance Lynn, and Derek Holland a reasonable price for Chris Sale, Joey Gallo, Kenley Jansen, and a top 5-10 prospect pick (assume 2014 draftees)?
(AJ from Phoenix)
I value Sale over Upton by enough to want more in this deal if I'm the Sale side. (Mauricio Rubio)
2014-07-15 13:00:00 (link to chat)Thoughts on Derek Holland? Chance to contribute this year and down the line?
(Max from NYC)
I like that it's not an arm injury. I could definitely see him contributing. I'd scoop him in just about any format where I had a DL spot available (Paul Sporer)
2014-06-13 13:00:00 (link to chat)Paul, I would think Derek Holland would be a fantastic add considering he will be fresh. What say you?
(Rup from Lorton, VA)
Really depends on league. You can flip it and say he'll be rusty, too. Definitely a viable add in a lot of formats because there is some nice potential, but he's far from a sure thing to be a big second half contributor (Paul Sporer)
2014-04-22 20:00:00 (link to chat)Gentlemen, if my team is short on relievers, but probably has enough innings in total - thanks to drafting enough starters, even if two of them are Doug Fister and Derek Holland, would you prioritize drafting relievers in the first supplemental over more starters?
(R.A. Wagman from GTA)
Having elite relievers is great for a contending team at the front of their bullpen, so if you can afford using your picks and there are strong relievers available, we feel good about that strategy. (Scoresheet Chat with Ben, Jared, and Ian)
2014-04-21 13:00:00 (link to chat)Henry Ownens' volatility -- sounds a lot like Derek Holland.
(natedogg34 from Fort Worth)
For different reasons - Owens is tied to his height which makes it hard to repeat his delivery while Holland struggles because...actually I don't know why Holland struggles sometimes. He should be better than he is. Anyway, the frustration level among fans could be similar. I see where you're going with this NateDogg. Way to regulate. (Jeff Moore)
2014-03-19 20:00:00 (link to chat)Hey Bret, are you still optimistic about Ike Davis? I may have the chance to get him and Derek Holland for Marlon Byrd and Alex Guerrero. Not sure how much hope to have for Ike. Thoughts?
(Chris from Dallas)
Yes I am. And that's definitely a deal I would make. (Bret Sayre)
2014-01-21 18:00:00 (link to chat)Would you stash Holland in a dynasty league or cut bait as he might not be useful at all in 2014
(Shawnykid23 from Snowy CT)
He is most certainly rosterable. It's not an injury that should have a long term impact and Derek Holland could put up 60-80 really useful innings in 2014. (Mike Gianella)
2014-01-14 13:00:00 (link to chat)Is it worth stashing Derek Holland for what he may provide when he returns?
(ChoppertoChipper from St. Albert)
Yeah. He's looking at half a season and a lower-body injury, so I could definitely see him doing some good things in the summer and down the stretch. Don't overpay for injured guys, though. (Paul Sporer)
2014-01-02 13:00:00 (link to chat)I was needling a friend of mine about Matt Moore that at this point he is essentially Derek Holland only a little younger. I am sure most everyone will say that Moore is better now and long term but can you see any basis in truth to my comparison?
(chris from Phoenix)
Holland has actually shown considerably more control over the last few years. I'm not sure the comparison works, but that doesn't mean Holland isn't better. It's all about whether you believe that Moore can put it together, because the pure stuff is better. (Craig Goldstein)
2013-12-10 18:00:00 (link to chat)Which lefty would you rather have for this year, and the future: Derek Holland or Matt Moore?
(kevin from oakland)
Hi Kevin:

Definitely Matt Moore. He has some control issues, but if he can harness those to even some degree he is an ace starter in the making. Derek Holland is very good, but I see him more as a solid #2 going forward, not an ace. If you're talking fantasy, Moore is an even better option because all of those strikeouts can win you a category. (Mike Gianella)
2013-02-27 20:00:00 (link to chat)In my AL-only Dynasty Lg, I acquired Mike Moustakas, Addison Reed, Byron Buxton and the 6th overall pick for Justin Verlander & my 10th, 11th and 12th round picks. Was this a good pick-up, considering that I have Matt Moore, Yu Darvish, Derek Holland and Tommy Milone as my top starters
(jlarsen from Chicago)
Hard to say considering I don't know what those picks would typically fetch in your league. That seems like a lot to give up since it's an AL-only. Your staff looks deep, but this isn't a mixed. I do like Buxton a lot, but I don't like the idea of giving up Verlander without getting a top hitter back. I have been burned in the past dealing an ace pitcher for a package of players rather than one big hitter in return. (Mike Gianella)
2013-02-14 13:00:00 (link to chat)Give us a little preview of the SP Guide...How about 1 breakout SP in each league??
(Shawnykid23 from CT)
Some might see Samardzija's 2012 as a breakout, but I think that was merely a taster. I've been on the Derek Holland train for a while, but I still believe. Lefties take a bit longer and the talent remains plentiful. (Paul Sporer)
2012-01-26 13:00:00 (link to chat)Did Derek Holland finally figure it all out? Does he have any room to improve from last year's performance? If he does, along what kind of stats he would offer in his prime?
(Jay from Vancouver)
Obviously, Holland figured out a few things in 2011. The good news is that he still has more to figure out, as the changeup can certainly improve. I don't like projecting stats because I'm not very good at it, but I think Holland can be the type of #3 starter that can throw one-hitters when he is on and give up five runs in five innings when he is not. Consistency could make him a #2. (Jason Parks)
2012-01-26 13:00:00 (link to chat)Who grades out better for the combined hair & mustache package: Tim Lincecum or Derek Holland?
(Bryant from San Diego)
Lincecum grades out higher. Holland looks like a NAMBLA alert come to life. (Jason Parks)
2011-10-04 13:00:00 (link to chat)Going forward, pick one: Matt Harrison or Derek Holland?
(Or from DENTON!!)
Tough call. I'll go with Harrison. He's reading books now. The future is his. (Jason Parks)
2011-06-14 13:00:00 (link to chat)I have a very strong pitching staff in a long term keeper Strat-O-Matic 16 team league and I only need five starters. Which five of these would you keep? Josh Beckett, Matt Cain, Tim Lincecum, Zack Greinke, CJ Wilson, Jordan Zimmermann, Clayton Kershaw, Derek Holland, Alexi Ogando, and Chris Narveson. Keep in mind I can keep them forever.
(jhardman from Apex, NC)
Lincecum, Kershaw, Greinke, and Cain seem like obvious choices. I'd probably go with Beckett for the last spot, though Wilson might be safer, given Beckett's age and injury history. (Ben Lindbergh)
2011-03-02 13:00:00 (link to chat)Who closes if Feliz starts?
(johnklein from northeast)
I'm convinced they'd make a trade of some sort to add a right-handed veteran, because I guess I'm more than a little doubtful they'd go old (Arthur Rhodes or Darren Oliver) or young (Derek Holland) from what's effectively a list made up of lefties, at least as far as their best internal options. (Christina Kahrl)
2010-10-25 13:00:00 (link to chat)Derek Holland looked great in the LCS. Has he secured a starting spot in 2011, and if so, does he have David Price upside?
(maxfawcett from Edmonton, AB)
You'd think so, and while that's a very high standard to set, Holland has tremendous upside. And if they ever tire of using Feliz as a reliever, you could see a Ranger rotation every bit as easily associated with youth and greatness as Price and his compadres. (Christina Kahrl)
2010-06-10 13:00:00 (link to chat)12 team 5x5 single season, I have two DL slots, currently occupied by Derek Holland and Michael Gonzalez. Should I replace either with Orlando Hudson, cut Hudson, or cut Nate McLouth or Chipper Jones from my bench. Also, have you played God of War III, and if so were you put off at all by how violent some of the game was?
(Bill N from Buffalo)
God of War's combat bores me. I don't mind the violence, but that's really the selling point for it IMO. I'm also someone whose favorite part of Gears of War is sneaking up on a baddie with a chainsaw bayonet, so I might not be the best person to ask about that.

It might be time to cut Nate McLouth--it's not like anyone is going to snag him off of waivers if he starts to hit, because his current line is so awful that he won't show up on anyone's radar unless they are beyond desperate. (Marc Normandin)
2010-04-27 13:00:00 (link to chat)When will the Rangers begin to admit their mistake and promote Derek Holland to replace Rich Harden in the rotation? Harden is a bullpen killer with his 4.1 inning outings.
(Kevin from Dallas)
Both Holland and Brandon McCarthy are carving up the PCL, giving Texas some options to change up the rotation. Harden (17 ip in 4 starts) and Feldman (7.50ish r/g) are the subpar candidates to date. Harden's history and stuff make him a strong candidate for the Kerry Wood treatment and a permanent shift to the bullpen. I doubt they would make such a move without a DL trip for Harden, , which would be the excuse for the transition. Shouldn't have to wait too long for that. (Clay Davenport)
2010-03-26 13:00:00 (link to chat)Follow up, Wilson - "he's a lefty who can miss bats." Sounds a lot like Derek Holland, another rotation candidate they passed on...
(Jake from Chicago)
Yes, but Wilson's 29 and has had success at the major league level. Holland is 23 and was beaten like a rented mule last year (6.12 ERA). The Rangers are contenders, and it may make more sense for Holland to hone his skills at Triple-A (where he has just four innings of experience) or in the bullpen. (Jay Jaffe)
2010-01-26 14:00:00 (link to chat)Which young dynamic duo would you choose for your team long term? Neftali Feliz and Derek Holland or Chris Tillman and Brian Matusz?
(Chad from Arlington)
Feliz/Holland, I think. The combined upside is higher. (Tommy Bennett)
2009-10-13 14:00:00 (link to chat)What were your impressions of Derek Holland's rookie year?
(Trevor from Fort Worth, TX)
Uneven and very promising, but I guess I'm the sort of optimist who believes that if you hand Mike Maddux great raw material, you're going to get results. (Christina Kahrl)
2009-10-05 16:00:00 (link to chat)Eric, where do you see Derek Holland in six months - bullpen or back of the rotation?
(CJ from SF)
Rotation. The Rangers wanted to bring their young guns like Holland and Feliz up and start them out in the bullpen. Make no mistake, both are going to be starting pitchers. (Eric Seidman)
2009-09-21 14:00:00 (link to chat)If the Rangers bring back their current team, with minimal to no free agent additions, do you see them likely performing worse, the same or better next season?
(ScotMartin from TX)
Well, I certainly think Derek Holland will improve given the tantalizing glimpses we've seen of him, and the addition of Neftali Feliz to the rotation will be a big deal, too. I'm less optimistic about the low strikeout rate guys repeating their success - Millwood, Hunter and Feldman - because if anything should go wrong (such as losing a tick of velocity to fatigue) they won't be nearly so effective.

I also think that the limitations of their low-OBP offense are glaringly apparent. They desperately need to find guys who can get on base to take advantage of the power bats they have in that lineup. They've got one regular above .340. (Jay Jaffe)
2009-09-17 14:00:00 (link to chat)How has Derek Holland's MLB debut changed your opinion on him? What should Rangers fans expect from him next season?
(ScotMartin from TX)
I don't think my opinion on him has changed very much. I don't think he was completely ready, but the Rangers certainly needed him. I've certainly seen him dominate at times, and that's the thing -- he at least shows you he CAN do it, which puts him way ahead of most -- he just needs to do it consistently. (Kevin Goldstein)
2009-09-08 13:00:00 (link to chat)Where would you rank Derek Holland, in terms of breakout potential, heading into next year?
(Kevin from Fort Worth, TX)
He needs to keep the ball in the park more, which will be tough in Texas, but that's his main flaw. He's a sleeper pick I think, because if he does rein it in, he's going to put up good numbers. (Marc Normandin)
2009-08-17 14:00:00 (link to chat)Standard keeper league, who do you like better long-term, Derek Holland or Joba Chamberlain? Congrats on the new gig!
(Paul from Fort Worth, TX)
Me personally, I'd go with Joba. But full disclosure: I have a much, much better track record picking hitters than pitchers. (Ken Funck)
2009-08-19 14:00:00 (link to chat)Jay, assuming you think that the AL East crown is probably settled, how do you see the wild card battle playing out? Will it be just between Boston and Texas? What are the keys to watch for, outside of Wakefield's return?
(Nick Stone from New York City)
Hello, Nick! At this point in the season I'm having a hard time taking the Rays seriously as Wild Card contenders given their inconsistency on both sides of the ball, so I do think it will come down to the Rangers and Red Sox. Earlier this year I'd have said it would be difficult to imagine the Sox struggling this much for this long given their roster, and that it would be even tougher to envision the Rangers maintaining their hot start given their pitch-to-contact ways. The Sox have had a lot of injuries, not only among the players they knew were health risks to begin but also to the players representing the first line of defense against them, and while I like the deadline moves they've made, particularly Victor Martinez, right now they're a mess. The Rangers have had injury problems as well, and done a very nice job augmenting their team in-season by calling up Derek Holland and Neftali Feliz, and as minor as it is, I like their acquisition of Pudge for the stretch.

I can envision this race coming down to whose young pitching holds up best under pressure -- Buccholz or Holland/Feliz. It's bigger than that, of course, but that's what I'll be watching most closely. (Jay Jaffe)
2009-07-31 14:00:00 (link to chat)I know this is premature...but who cares? Derek Holland or Jon lester longterm because Holland looked downright nasty last night. If that is a sign of things to come, watch out.
(Jack from LA)
Holland, but it's close. And boy, was that a good start. The Mariners, yeah, but still. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-08-05 13:00:00 (link to chat)But Cardinals fans are stupid. Why else would they live in that boring sweatbox they call St. Louis? Derek Holland seems to have the stuff to be a solid starter in 2010...just typical rookie struggles?
(Gray from Chicago)
Oh man St. Louis, are you going to take that from Chicago? Homers are his problem. His walk rates aren't very high, but they are too high for those homer rates and maybe that park. It's a shame he doesn't keep it in the park more, because the Rangers can actually catch it this year. (Marc Normandin)
2009-06-05 15:30:00 (link to chat)Areyou concerned with the performance of Derek Holland?
(Jay from Dallas)
He's 22, has a K/BB of 2.40 and has been victimized by a .337 BABIP and 65% strand rate. So.. no, not concerned. Just because players are top prospects doesn't automatically mean they will come up and dominate right away. Give it some time. (Eric Seidman)
2009-05-28 14:00:00 (link to chat)I know he got knocked around a bit, but I really like what I saw out of Derek Holland. He thre strikes, missed some bats and never had one major implosion. Yankees kill lefties as it is. Your impressions?
(Ryan from NJ)
I share your impressions. (Kevin Goldstein)
2009-05-14 13:00:00 (link to chat)Any word on when Derek Holland may be moving into the Rangers' rotation?
(goiter6 from MN)
No, but I wouldn't count on it being soon. I'm also not sure how you stretch him out -- longer relief stints? Send him back to Oklahoma? (Will Carroll)
2009-04-28 13:00:00 (link to chat)When do you foresee Derek Holland being put into the rotation?
(Gray from Chicago)
I would say after the All-Star break. The Rangers are taking the old-fashinoned approach to breaking Holland in to the major leagues, starting him off in low-leverage relief situations. It's a good idea that has worked well in the past. (John Perrotto)
2009-04-06 13:00:00 (link to chat)The A's have taken Trevor Cahill and Brett Anderson, highly regarded pitching prospects with little experience over A-ball, and put them in the Opening Day rotation. The Rangers have taken Neftali Feliz and Derek Holland, highly regarded pitching prospects with little experience over A-ball, and put them in AAA, with Nolan Ryan saying they will likely initially pitch out of the bullpen when they do get to the majors. Which path do you think is preferable?
(X from Y)
I lean towards the latter, although the pitchers in question are so different that the divergent approaches probably work best for each pairing. It's worth noting that breaking in pitchers in Oakland is much different than doing so in Arlington, so you can push the envelope more. (Joe Sheehan)


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