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2019 Projections (Preseason PECOTA - seasonal age 33)
IP ERA WHIP SO W L SV WARP
35.7 4.80 1.39 31 2 2 0 -0.1
Birth Date1-29-1986
Height6' 1"
Weight200 lbs
Age33 years, 0 months, 22 days
BatsR
ThrowsR
2015
2016
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2018
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WARP Summary

MLB Statistics

Historical (past-seasons) WARP is now based on DRA..
cFIP and DRA are not available on a by-team basis and display as zeroes(0). See TOT line for season totals of these stats.
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YEAR Team Lg G GS IP W L SV H BB SO HR PPF H/9 BB/9 HR/9 K/9 GB% BABIP WHIP FIP ERA cFIP DRA DRA- WARP
2007 DET MLB 7 7 30.7 3 1 0 24 11 13 4 102 7.0 3.2 1.2 3.8 37% .215 1.14 5.32 4.70 123 6.87 142.1 -0.4
2008 ATL MLB 31 31 188.3 13 10 0 188 70 139 11 98 9.0 3.3 0.5 6.6 52% .301 1.37 3.56 3.68 96 4.27 91.1 2.7
2009 ATL MLB 34 34 215.0 14 10 0 186 75 152 15 96 7.8 3.1 0.6 6.4 45% .268 1.21 3.63 2.60 93 3.84 82.3 4.2
2010 ATL MLB 20 20 116.3 7 6 0 120 42 86 13 94 9.3 3.2 1.0 6.7 43% .300 1.39 4.20 4.64 107 4.98 112.5 0.4
2011 ATL MLB 23 23 152.0 13 6 0 142 44 90 14 95 8.4 2.6 0.8 5.3 44% .269 1.22 3.95 2.96 105 4.23 98.3 1.5
2012 ATL MLB 11 10 48.3 3 4 0 72 18 19 8 99 13.4 3.4 1.5 3.5 40% .354 1.86 5.67 6.89 117 6.03 138.3 -0.5
2013 BAL MLB 2 1 7.3 0 0 0 9 1 6 1 100 11.0 1.2 1.2 7.4 25% .348 1.36 3.62 4.91 136 6.59 157.7 -0.2
2014 COL MLB 2 2 9.3 0 1 0 20 3 9 4 140 19.3 2.9 3.9 8.7 38% .485 2.46 8.03 10.61 125 8.06 197.8 -0.4
CareerMLB130128767.35338076126451470978.93.10.86.045%.2891.344.013.721024.53100.37.4

Statistics for All Levels

'opp' stats - Quality of opponents faced - have been moved and are available only as OPP_QUAL in the Statistics reports now.
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YEAR Team Lg G GS IP W L SV H BB SO HR PPF H/9 BB/9 HR/9 K/9 GB% BABIP WHIP FIP ERA cFIP DRA DRA-
2004 ONE A- 7 7 39.0 1 5 0 50 10 31 0 11.5 2.3 0.0 7.2 0% .382 1.54 2.87 5.31 0 0.00 0.0
2005 WMI A 26 26 142.7 12 6 0 132 36 108 5 60 8.3 2.3 0.3 6.8 57% .295 1.18 3.28 3.41 0 0.00 0.0
2006 LAK A+ 12 12 73.2 5 0 0 53 10 59 4 67 6.5 1.2 0.5 7.3 57% .226 0.86 2.83 2.09 0 0.00 0.0
2006 ERI AA 12 12 67.1 4 3 0 71 21 53 7 9.5 2.8 0.9 7.1 0% .323 1.37 3.97 3.35 0 0.00 0.0
2006 NED wor 1 0 1.0 0 1 0 3 0 1 1 27.0 0.0 9.0 9.0 0% .500 3.00 14.76 27.00 0 0.00 0.0
2007 DET MLB 7 7 30.7 3 1 0 24 11 13 4 102 7.0 3.2 1.2 3.8 37% .215 1.14 5.32 4.70 123 6.87 142.1
2007 ERI AA 19 19 112.7 7 5 0 112 31 94 7 114 8.9 2.5 0.6 7.5 49% .313 1.27 3.24 3.19 0 0.00 0.0
2008 ATL MLB 31 31 188.3 13 10 0 188 70 139 11 98 9.0 3.3 0.5 6.6 52% .301 1.37 3.56 3.68 96 4.27 91.1
2009 ATL MLB 34 34 215.0 14 10 0 186 75 152 15 96 7.8 3.1 0.6 6.4 45% .268 1.21 3.63 2.60 93 3.84 82.3
2010 ATL MLB 20 20 116.3 7 6 0 120 42 86 13 94 9.3 3.2 1.0 6.7 43% .300 1.39 4.20 4.64 107 4.98 112.5
2010 GWN AAA 3 3 13.0 1 1 0 20 6 9 2 103 13.8 4.2 1.4 6.2 58% .391 2.00 5.29 5.54 0 0.00 0.0
2011 ATL MLB 23 23 152.0 13 6 0 142 44 90 14 95 8.4 2.6 0.8 5.3 44% .269 1.22 3.95 2.96 105 4.23 98.3
2011 GWN AAA 1 1 6.0 1 0 0 4 2 3 1 95 6.0 3.0 1.5 4.5 56% .176 1.00 5.40 3.00 0 0.00 0.0
2012 ATL MLB 11 10 48.3 3 4 0 72 18 19 8 99 13.4 3.4 1.5 3.5 40% .354 1.86 5.67 6.89 117 6.03 138.3
2012 GWN AAA 14 14 72.3 4 6 0 79 16 39 10 100 9.8 2.0 1.2 4.9 42% .284 1.31 4.58 4.98 0 0.00 0.0
2013 BAL MLB 2 1 7.3 0 0 0 9 1 6 1 100 11.0 1.2 1.2 7.4 25% .348 1.36 3.62 4.91 136 6.59 157.7
2013 NOR AAA 16 16 94.7 6 6 0 102 24 52 5 102 9.7 2.3 0.5 4.9 39% .304 1.33 3.64 4.18 0 0.00 0.0
2013 TOL AAA 7 7 39.3 1 4 0 45 14 24 3 95 10.3 3.2 0.7 5.5 44% .326 1.50 4.11 5.49 0 0.00 0.0
2014 COL MLB 2 2 9.3 0 1 0 20 3 9 4 140 19.3 2.9 3.9 8.7 38% .485 2.46 8.03 10.61 125 8.06 197.8
2014 CSP AAA 8 8 47.0 0 5 0 52 16 24 6 107 10.0 3.1 1.1 4.6 49% .288 1.45 5.48 4.60 113 4.98 101.0
2014 LOU AAA 6 6 34.3 2 3 0 42 13 27 1 108 11.0 3.4 0.3 7.1 46% .363 1.60 3.29 4.46 96 5.23 111.9
2015 ABQ AAA 17 14 70.7 2 5 0 105 23 39 9 121 13.4 2.9 1.1 5.0 41% .368 1.81 5.16 6.88 123 5.23 112.7
2017 OKL AAA 11 10 54.3 4 3 0 63 18 44 6 102 10.4 3.0 1.0 7.3 44% .335 1.49 4.53 4.64 96 3.85 81.1

Plate Discipline

YEAR Pits Zone% Swing% Contact% Z-Swing% O-Swing% Z-Contact% O-Contact% SwStr%
2008 2996 0.4766 0.4459 0.7919 0.6218 0.2857 0.8525 0.6719 0.2081
2009 3281 0.4886 0.4483 0.8069 0.6213 0.2831 0.8635 0.6884 0.1931
2010 1796 0.5078 0.4655 0.7847 0.6447 0.2805 0.8401 0.6532 0.2153
2011 2262 0.4469 0.4536 0.8148 0.6489 0.2958 0.8689 0.7189 0.1852
2012 828 0.4553 0.4444 0.8533 0.6313 0.2882 0.8824 0.8000 0.1467
2013 109 0.5872 0.4771 0.8654 0.6563 0.2222 0.8810 0.8000 0.1346
2014 195 0.4769 0.4359 0.8471 0.6237 0.2647 0.9138 0.7037 0.1529
Career114670.47860.45120.80570.63160.28540.86040.69400.1943

Injury History  —  No longer being updated

Last Update: 12/31/2014 23:59 ET

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
2013-03-28 2013-03-30 Camp 2 0 - Trunk Contusion Rib - -
2012-08-01 2012-09-03 15-DL 33 31 Right Groin Strain - -
2011-09-01 2011-09-29 15-DL 28 27 Right Knee Inflammation -
2011-08-23 2011-08-30 DTD 7 4 Right Knee Soreness -
2011-08-02 2011-08-17 15-DL 15 13 Right Knee Inflammation with Bone Bruising - -
2011-03-25 2011-04-16 15-DL 22 13 Right Abdomen Strain Oblique -
2010-10-19 2010-10-19 Off 0 0 Right Knee Surgery Meniscus 2010-10-19
2010-09-15 2010-10-12 DTD 27 16 Right Knee Cartilage Injury Meniscus -
2010-04-30 2010-06-30 15-DL 61 56 Left Thigh Strain Hamstring -
2010-02-15 2010-03-12 Camp 25 0 Right Shoulder Inflammation and Tightness -
2008-06-11 2008-06-16 DTD 5 5 Right Ankle Sprain -
2008-05-31 2008-05-31 DTD 0 0 Right Thumb Blister Thumb -
2007-08-26 2007-09-11 15-DL 16 15 Right Shoulder Inflammation Rotator Cuff -
2007-06-01 2007-06-16 Minors 15 0 Not Disclosed -

Compensation

Year Team Salary
2017 LAN $
2015 COL $
2014 CIN $
2013 BAL $
2012 ATL $5,500,000
2011 ATL $3,250,000
2010 ATL $480,000
2009 ATL $450,000
2008 ATL $390,000
YearsDescriptionSalary
5 yrPrevious$10,070,000
5 yrTotal$10,070,000

 

Service TimeAgentContract Status
4 y 149 dBoras Corp.1 year (2017)

Details
  • 1 year (2017). Signed by LA Dodgers as a free agent 3/30/17 (minor-league contract).
  • 1 year (2015). Re-signed by Colorado as a free agent 11/10/14 (minor-league contract).
  • 1 year (2014). Signed by Cincinnati as a free agent 5/18/14 (minor-league contract). Acquired by Colorado in trade from Cincinnati 7/2/14. Contract selected by Colorado 7/4/14. DFA by Colorado 7/21/14. Sent outright to Triple-A 7/23/14. Refused assignment by Colorado 10/4/14.
  • 1 year (2013). Signed by Baltimore as a free agent 2/15/13 (minor-league contract). Contract selected by Baltimore 5/18/13. Designated for optional assignment by Baltimore 6/30/13. DFA by Baltimore 7/12/13. Elected free agency 7/18/13. Signed by Detroit as a free agent 7/24/13 (minor-league contract).
  • 1 year/$5.5M (2012). Re-signed by Atlanta 1/17/12 (avoided arbitration). Performance bonuses: $25,000 each for 175, 180, 190, 200, 210, 215 innings. Non-tendered by Atlanta 11/30/12.
  • 1 year/$3.25M (2011). Re-signed by Atlanta 1/18/11 (avoided arbitration).
  • 1 year/$0.48M (2010). Re-signed by Atlanta 3/3/10.
  • 1 year/$0.45M (2009). Re-signed by Atlanta 2/09.
  • 1 year/$0.39M (2008). Signed by Atlanta 2/29/08.
  • 1 year (2007). Contract purchased by Detroit 8/15/07. Acquired by Atlanta in trade from Detroit 10/29/07.
  • Signed by Detroit 2003 as an amateur free agent from Curacao.

2019 Preseason Forecast

Last Update: 1/27/2017 12:35 ET

PCT W L SV G GS IP H BB SO HR BABIP WHIP ERA DRA VORP WARP
90o 3.4 2.5 0.1 11 10 51.3 45 16 42 7 .257 1.17 3.72 4.06 5.3 0.6
80o 2.9 2.4 0.1 10 9 45.1 42 15 37 7 .272 1.26 4.12 4.5 2.6 0.3
70o 2.5 2.3 0.1 9 8 40.8 40 14 34 7 .282 1.33 4.42 4.82 1.0 0.1
60o 2.3 2.2 0 8 7 37.3 39 13 31 6 .291 1.39 4.68 5.1 -0.1 0.0
50o 2 2 0 8 6 34.0 37 13 28 6 .300 1.45 4.92 5.36 -1.0 -0.1
40o 1.8 1.9 0 7 6 30.8 35 12 26 6 .308 1.51 5.17 5.63 -1.7 -0.2
30o 1.5 1.8 0 6 5 27.5 32 11 23 5 .317 1.58 5.44 5.92 -2.4 -0.3
20o 1.3 1.6 0 5 4 23.7 29 10 20 5 .328 1.66 5.77 6.27 -2.9 -0.3
10o 0.9 1.4 0 4 4 18.7 25 9 15 4 .343 1.77 6.23 6.77 -3.2 -0.3
Weighted Mean2207633.23512286.2981.444.895.32-0.8-0.1

Comparable Players (Similarity Index )

Rank Score Name Year Run Average Trend

BP Annual Player Comments

YearComment
2018 Yes, you're reading this right, he was still kicking around the high minors last season. "Was" is the operative word in that sentence; Jurrjens hasn't toed a big-league rubber since 2014, and after struggling through an injury-riddled campaign in the Chinese Professional Baseball League in 2016, it appeared he might just be done with the whole professional baseball player thing. But he looked marginally less done while pitching for Team Netherlands in the World Baseball Classic last spring, and the effort was enough to net him a minor-league reclamation contract. Fifty-some-odd mediocre innings at Triple-A and a PED suspension later, however, and a return test of international waters seems the likeliest next landing spot for the greatest starting pitcher in Curacao's history.
2014 There was a time when the Jair Jurrjens trade was seriously lamented by Tigers fans, and yet his return to the team’s minor-league system likely went unnoticed by most of those folks.
2013 My, my, my, what a mess. A season removed from an All-Star appearance, Jurrjens fell to pieces. Four disastrous starts were enough to merit a trip down to the minors. Jurrjens pitched poorly against Triple-A batters yet still had the nerve to complain that he didn’t feel wanted. When he returned to the majors, he made seven appearances and allowed 23 runs in 32 innings. The Braves shut him down in early August due to a strained groin, ending his season two months early. Atlanta had two choices with Jurrjens: Trade him for a song or non-tender him. Given Jurrjens’ arbitration eligibility and price tag ($5.5 million), cutting him loose was an easy call.
2012 Jurrjens's 2011 presents a conundrum for the Braves. He posted a sub-3 earned run average for the second time in three seasons, but still provided reason for worry. A decline in velocity has left Jurrjens sitting in the upper-80s and topping out in the 93-94 mph range, as opposed to when he used to sit around 91 and touch 95-96. It would be unfair to implicate the velocity drop as the only party responsible for a career-low strikeout rate; however, it would be irresponsible to ignore it as a contributing factor. To Jurrjens’s credit, he did shave a little off his walk rate, although his strikeout-to-walk ratio remained between 2.03 and 2.05 for the third consecutive season. Jurrjens is not as good as he showed last season, and the Braves would be smart to move him before he gets expensive or his elbow pops.
2011 Following Jurrjens' season was like playing a game of "Operation." First his shoulder acted up in spring training, then his knee flared up, followed by a hamstring problem, and a foot injury was offered as the dessert course. None of the injuries was serious, and none of them is expected to be chronic, but insofar as 2010 was concerned, he had trouble staying on the mound. There's no reason he can't return to his 2008-2009 form once he gives up the Chipper Jones impression.
2010 It's easy to forget that when the Braves traded Edgar Renteria to the Tigers at the end of the 2007 season, outfielder Gorkys Hernandez (now with the Pirates) was the guy they really wanted. Jurrjens was the secondary player they received in the deal, and now he's a 24-year-old who just finished third in the National League in ERA. Jurrjens always had a slightly above-average fastball and a very good changeup, but he started throwing his solid slider more in 2009, and the mere existence of the pitch was the key to his step forward. He rarely dominates, but he was among the most consistent pitchers in the game, giving up three or fewer runs in 26 of 34 starts, and never more than five. Enjoy him for now, Braves fans, because in three years he'll be a 27-year-old free agent with Scott Boras as his agent.
2009 A command and control pitcher with a good changeup and a solid ground-ball rate but unexceptional stuff overall, Jurrjens is unlikely to improve on his breakout 2008 season, but with talent like Hanson on the way, he won’t have to. Jurrjens is young enough and good enough to be a mid-rotation rock on the next contending Braves team. He faded a bit down the stretch last year as his workload piled up, but having been stretched out, he shouldn’t have that problem again. Still, the Braves should be mindful that he’s just 23 years old and not out of the injury nexus just yet.
2008 The Tigers sent Jair Jurrjens to Atlanta with Gorkys Hernandez for Edgar Renteria in a trade as notable for the names involved as for the players. For such a young pitcher, Jurrjens has very good control of his three pitches, among them a low-90s fastball. The sore shoulder that interrupted his time in Detroit isn't expected to affect him this year. Look for him to be up by midseason and establish himself as a mid-rotation starter.
2007 A Curacao product who represented the Dutch in the World Baseball Classic, Jurrjens has moved through the system quickly by attacking the strike zone, relying on a low-90s fastball that moves well and generates its share of ground balls. He`s not really a stuff guy, and his PECOTA comps consist mostly of guys who got caught up to by the time they reached the majors, but his youth should give him time to work on his secondary pitches and perhaps emerge as a number-four starter.
2006 Jurrjens` assets are that he can throw three pitches with excellent command, a quality not frequently encountered in the Midwest League. His liabilities are that none of his pitches are considered to be very good on their own, although there is some hope for him to fill out and gain velocity. Most pitchers with this kind of command at this age don`t progress too well. Progress, for most pitchers, comes from learning to harness their talents; Jurrjens` talents are already hitched up.

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BP Chats

DateQuestionAnswer
2016-09-21 13:00:00 (link to chat)This is an odd question that bothers me, about whether or not a MLB team should make certain trades. Back in 2014 the Rockies traded Harold Riggins to the Reds for Jair Jurrjens. Riggins played a year in the minors before being taken by the Marlins in the rule V draft. Jurrjens pitched in 2 games for the Rockies, had an ERA of 10.61, a WHIP of 2.46, and a WAR of -0.3. So who won the trade? The Reds got nothing really out of Riggins, but would the Rockies have been better off with nothing rather than trading for a guy with a negative WAR? That’s my ultimate question: is it better to get nothing than to get a MLBer who stinks?
(Truganini from CO)
Really fun question. I don't think anyone wins or loses the 'flier prospect for marginal veteran' deals. They generally work out for what both parties want/need. (Brendan Gawlowski)
2012-11-09 14:00:00 (link to chat)Which pitcher is more likely to get back on track: Tommy Hanson or Jair Jurrjens?
(Lil' Sebastian from The Barn)
Hanson has the more promising baseline, but I fear that there is some underlying structural damage that will create an uphill battle (he has lost 3 mph from his FB in two years). I was on board with the mechanical changes that he was going to make out of spring training, but he seemed to scrap the idea early in the season and reverted back to his old delivery. I prefer Hanson in a vacuum, but Jurrjens' approach is less dependent on the heat, and his injuries are lower-body in nature, so I would give him the better odds of regaining his previous level of effectiveness (with the caveat that he was never as good as his 2011 ERA suggested).

On the jukebox: Testament, "Electric Crown" (Doug Thorburn)
2012-10-30 13:00:00 (link to chat)Any non-superstar/star-level players who could be non-tendered that teams should kick the tires on?
(jlarsen from chicago)
With the caveat that I did less than two seconds of research, some interesting names to me are Kyle Blanks, George Kottaras, Nyjer Morgan, Mark Reynolds, Brendan Ryan, Gaby Sanchez, Geovany Soto, Ian Stewart, Drew Stubbs, Dallas Braden, Philip Humber, Tommy Hunter, Jair Jurrjens, Mike Pelfrey, and Jerome Williams. (Geoff Young)
2012-07-20 13:00:00 (link to chat)Ive recently acquired joey votto in a ss league and been offered jj and zimmermann. what are your thoughts for jj in the second half.
(j from some yankee town)
Depends on who J.J. is. If it's Putz, I think he'll improve a little but not enough to be interesting. If it's Hardy, he also is capable of better things. If it's Josh Johnson, same thing, but with perpetual injury risk. Who else is there? J.J. Hoover. Jon Jay. Jair Jurrjens. John Jaso. Jim Johnson. I'm not getting warm and fuzzy about any of these guys. So I guess it doesn't depend on who J.J. is. Good chance of small improvement, but nothing exciting. I wouldn't trade Votto for Zimmermann and anyone with the initials J.J. (Geoff Young)
2012-05-07 13:00:00 (link to chat)How long do you expect Jair Jurrjens to stay in Triple-A Gwinnett? What kind of trade value does he have right now?
(Meathead from Chicago)
He's lost velocity, makes more than $5 million, and just got demoted to the minors. I wouldn't count on him having much value right now. (R.J. Anderson)
2012-03-15 12:00:00 (link to chat)When will the Braves tweak their organizational philosophy. They are always overflowing with young arms, but they refuse to trade any of them for bats, which they usually lack. Today comes word that Arodys Vizcaino might need Tommy John. They missed the boat again.
(Kyran from Malone, NY)
To be fair, it appears Atlanta did try to trade Jair Jurrjens this offseason. (R.J. Anderson)
2012-02-20 13:00:00 (link to chat)Braves starting rotation on opening day looks like....
(Trey from Texas)
Good question. Tim Hudson just said he's going to miss the first month, so my best guess is that Jair Jurrjens, Tommy Hanson, Brandon Beachy and Mike Minor are all in there, with Randall Delgado, Julio Teheran, and perhaps Kris Medlen competing for the five spot. Wouldn't surprise me at all if the kids were to start the season in the minors because of the way that April off days limit fifth starters anyway. (Jay Jaffe)
2011-08-26 16:00:00 (link to chat)Ideally, how does your rotation look in 2013? Hanson, Teheran, Vizcaino, Minor, Beachy/Delgado?
(anello52 from Chicago)
It's so hard to predict what young pitchers will do from start-to-start let alone year-to-year. All six of those pitchers you mentioned are exciting young options and we are glad they are in our organization. You didn't mention Jair Jurrjens, who some people feel was the best pitcher in the first half of the 2011 season. (John Coppolella)
2009-10-13 14:00:00 (link to chat)Your thoughts on Jair Jurrjens' future please.
(Frug from UIUC)
There were some who thought his 2008 season would be his best; obviously, he chose to disagree. He suffers from some of the biases against "short" right-handers, and he isn't throwing any harder. Still, he outperformed Lowe (and Kawakami). It seems crazy that even before this season, two of his top comps were Greg Maddux and Dave Stieb, two of the best "short" right-handers of the past generation. It also suggests how extraordinary Jurrjens already is, which is where all the doubt comes from. Could he really be that good? I don't think we can say yes or no with anything like the same sort of authority as we can with more typical players. I'd take my chances with him, certainly. (Christina Kahrl)
2009-10-02 14:00:00 (link to chat)Hi Joe. Joba's poor command and diminished velocity: a) poor mechanics, b) exhaustion, c) last year's shoulder problems have changed him forever, d) something else?
(Joe V. from Washington, DC)
First of all, he should have diminished velocity. You don't throw as hard making 3x starts as you do throwing 80 IP out of the pen. Secondly, I hate how they handled him this year, and while I can respect the effort to try something different, it failed, and it really seemed to mess with him. I give him something of a pass for the last two months.

There's such an expectations issue, and we saw that with Buchholz as well. Young pitchers don't always have the Jair Jurrjens launch. Long answer short, if the Yankees take the training wheels off Chamberlain, he'll give them 190-200 IP and an ERA around 3.50. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-09-21 14:00:00 (link to chat)What do the Braves do with their rotation in the off season? If the Braves pick up Hudson's $12 million option the Braves have 6 quality starting pitchers and pending free agents at closer #1, closer #1a, first base and possibly 3rd base.
(Frug from UIUC)
Well, the Braves are a very cost-conscious team during this era of corporate ownership, so I wouldn't put it past them to NOT pick up Hudson's options given their other needs. That said, I think it's quite possible they would pick it up and explore the trade market for Javy Vazquez or Jair Jurrjens, both of whom might be at their all-time peaks in value. It's a nice problem to have. (Jay Jaffe)
2009-09-10 13:00:00 (link to chat)For overall career value, this point on, who would you rather have Edinson Volquez or a pitching prospect ranked around 80th on Goldstein's top 100 list next year? Neither will likely pitch next year, both have some risk of development, both have some upside. I guess the question boils down to how much you believe that Edinson can regain his status from the injury. I am in a strat league, I could either keep Volquez or cut him and draft someone in the 80th range on Goldstein's next list.
(LindInMoskva from DC)
Volquez will miss 2010, but most pitchers come back from TJ to previous level. That's a major league pitcher with some upside. He'll be 28. Looking back to Goldstein's 2008 list (not 2009), guys at that level are Deolis Guerra, Radhames Liz, Max Scherzer, Jair Jurrjens, Aaron Poreda, and Greg Reynolds. Even with a year of development, we're looking at two guys who have established themselves at the MLB level, plus Poreda who's an upside guy. I'd probably take Poreda and Jurrjens over Volquez right now, Scherzer's a toss up, but then you have to figure out the "bust risk." Which of those guys would I have picked LAST year and am I confident that I can pick correctly? Kevin's an expert and had Poreda under Liz ... I think that bust risk is huge, so I'd almost always go with the guy I know can pitch. (Will Carroll)
2009-09-02 13:00:00 (link to chat)Did you just forgot about Jair Jurrjens when you talked about the Braves rotation for 2010 or you anticipating a trade? Related, do you think the Braves will pick up Hudson's option? They already have to deal with fact that their two closers, set up man and first baseman are all eligible for free agency.
(Frug from UIUC)
I love Jurrjens, but in that rotation, he's the #5 even though he'd be a #3 in most other rotations. I just don't see him repeating the performance this season, and I own him in a strat league. (Eric Seidman)
2009-09-02 13:00:00 (link to chat)I have trouble when people talk about #3 or #4 starters. What exactly does that mean, practically speaking? Not the rotation spot, exactly, but the abstract label as applied to an average guy with ups and downs like everybody else? Is there really that much difference between slots 1 and 2, 2 and 3, 3 and 4, and so on?
(Christopher from Nashville)
When I use the terms it's more to describe a guy who isn't going to be a perennial Cy Young Award contender or all star, but who does more than provide below average production in a lot of innings (see: Suppan, Garland). So someone like Jair Jurrjens I would say I can see him being a #3, or middle of the rotation starter. I'm not saying his numbers fit predetermined criteria for being slotted in a certain spot, but rather that he'll be middle of the pack, not an ace, not filler. (Eric Seidman)
2009-07-13 14:00:00 (link to chat)True or False: Jair Jurrjens is the most underrated young pitcher in the MLB.
(sunpar from New York)
I'd take Yovani Gallardo before him. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-06-18 13:00:00 (link to chat)Jair Jurrjens has been so-so recently. Should I be unloading him?
(qbroda from Regina)
Nope. About the only thing he's done wrong his last few starts is lose, which isn't entirely on him. I like his component stats a lot still, and he's still doing better than in April. You kept him then, so why not now? (Marc Normandin)
2008-11-12 14:00:00 (link to chat)Jair Jurrjens had a pretty nice rookie season but doesn't have overpowering stuff. What do you see from him in '09 and beyond? Fall back to earth or can he be even better?
(Dave from Toronto)
Honestly, my bet is neither of those things happening. I think he'll be consistently around that level. (Kevin Goldstein)
2008-06-25 14:00:00 (link to chat)What were your feelings at the time of the Renteria trade to DET? Since it was a foregone conclusion that ATL wanted to move him should Dombrowski have had to invest two of his top 5 prospects? Thank you.
(lemppi from Ankeny, IA)
At the time, I liked it for both parties, but I also didn't think that Jair Jurrjens was going to be much better than a 6th starter. There's still probably a rule that the other 29 clubs shouldn't trade with Atlanta. (Nate Silver)
2008-04-29 14:00:00 (link to chat)re: "sad panda" .... is that a South Park reference? :-) OK ... I need to dump Gil Meche, do I pick up John Danks or Jair Jurrjens? Kyle Lohse isn't for real is he?
(dianagramr from NYC)
Pick up Danks and Jurrjens. Extended exposure to Lohse can severely damage your judgment, even if I was forced to grab him during the playoffs last year. That's a dark time in my life I'd rather not discuss. (Marc Normandin)
2008-05-01 13:00:00 (link to chat)Jair Jurrjens has been a savior for Bobby Cox this year. Do you think Jurrjens is playing over his head right now?
(Jenny from Macon)
He is over his head. Jurrjens is, right now, a #4 with a #2 upside. He certainly helps the Braves, who had real problems at the back end last season. If Smoltz goes to the bullpen, Jurrjens becomes their second-best starter. (Joe Sheehan)
2008-03-17 12:00:00 (link to chat)Up until his last ST start, Jair Jurrjens was lights out. Although his K rate isn't great, it seems he has a knack for getting guys out. Could he be a valuable fantasy contributor this year or better for keeper leagues?
(Thomas from Myerstown, Penn)
Braves like him but right now he is 5th starter as best. I like him as a potential keeper. (Mike Siano)


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