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Birth Date11-22-1974
Height6' 4"
Weight230 lbs
Age43 years, 4 months, 30 days
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WARP Summary

MLB Statistics

Historical (past-seasons) WARP is now based on DRA..
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YEAR Team Lg G GS IP W L SV H BB SO HR oppTAv PPF H/9 BB/9 HR/9 K/9 GB% BABIP TAv WHIP FIP ERA cFIP DRA DRA- WARP
1999 SFN MLB 19 14 90.3 7 4 1 84 46 54 17 .256 98 8.4 4.6 1.7 5.4 43% .242 .263 1.44 5.88 4.18 116 6.55 127.4 -0.3
2000 SFN MLB 20 15 93.3 5 2 0 89 63 61 12 .258 101 8.6 6.1 1.2 5.9 45% .269 .264 1.63 5.57 5.21 121 8.62 165.8 -2.3
2002 SFN MLB 4 0 3.7 0 0 0 1 0 2 0 .262 89 2.5 0.0 0.0 4.9 22% .100 .071 0.27 1.78 0.00 100 4.87 104.5 0.0
2003 SFN MLB 78 0 79.0 12 4 0 51 33 83 7 .256 96 5.8 3.8 0.8 9.5 32% .232 .209 1.06 3.39 2.96 78 3.47 72.6 1.7
2004 MIN MLB 73 0 72.3 1 2 44 48 23 89 3 .261 101 6.0 2.9 0.4 11.1 34% .269 .185 0.98 2.27 1.62 60 2.82 58.1 2.2
2005 MIN MLB 69 0 70.0 7 4 43 46 22 94 5 .261 97 5.9 2.8 0.6 12.1 38% .265 .196 0.97 2.23 2.70 53 2.53 54.4 2.3
2006 MIN MLB 64 0 68.3 7 0 36 38 16 95 3 .258 103 5.0 2.1 0.4 12.5 38% .238 .166 0.79 1.72 1.58 47 2.08 42.4 2.7
2007 MIN MLB 68 0 71.7 4 2 37 54 19 77 4 .265 94 6.8 2.4 0.5 9.7 43% .276 .201 1.02 2.71 1.88 72 3.05 63.1 1.9
2008 MIN MLB 68 0 67.7 1 2 39 43 18 74 5 .262 96 5.7 2.4 0.7 9.8 49% .235 .181 0.90 2.81 1.33 68 2.58 55.1 2.1
2009 MIN MLB 70 0 68.7 2 2 47 42 22 89 7 .259 104 5.5 2.9 0.9 11.7 42% .232 .192 0.93 2.91 2.10 61 2.19 47.0 2.3
2011 MIN MLB 48 0 44.7 2 1 14 38 14 43 7 .262 104 7.7 2.8 1.4 8.7 37% .250 .259 1.16 4.31 4.84 87 3.23 75.2 0.8
2012 TEX MLB 66 0 64.3 3 5 37 55 13 78 7 .264 105 7.7 1.8 1.0 10.9 46% .306 .228 1.06 2.73 2.80 61 2.18 49.9 2.0
2013 TEX MLB 67 0 64.7 6 2 43 36 22 73 2 .267 100 5.0 3.1 0.3 10.2 34% .224 .183 0.90 2.28 1.39 70 2.57 61.6 1.6
2014 DET MLB 62 0 58.0 5 4 35 60 29 54 5 .261 108 9.3 4.5 0.8 8.4 44% .324 .266 1.53 3.97 4.81 95 4.40 108.0 0.1
2015 DET MLB 1 0 0.3 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 .246 104 0.0 0.0 0.0 27.0 0% .000 .004 0.00 -2.90 0.00 0 0.00 0.0 0.0
2016 CHN 0 3 0 2.0 1 0 0 2 2 4 0 .282 96 9.0 9.0 0.0 18.0 0% .500 .347 2.00 2.18 0.00 99 6.14 135.9 -0.0
2016 SFN 0 7 0 4.3 1 0 0 3 2 5 0 .273 99 6.2 4.2 0.0 10.4 27% .273 .180 1.15 2.26 0.00 87 3.90 86.3 0.1
2016 TOT MLB 10 0 6.3 2 0 0 5 4 9 0 .276 98 7.1 5.7 0.0 12.8 20% .333 .240 1.42 2.23 0.00 91 4.61 101.9 0.0
CareerMLB78729923.3643437769034497684.2611006.73.40.89.540%.259.2171.123.362.87793.7879.017.1

Statistics for All Levels

'opp' stats - Quality of opponents faced - have been moved and are available only as OPP_QUAL in the Statistics reports now.
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YEAR Team Lg G GS IP W L SV H BB SO HR oppTAv PPF H/9 BB/9 HR/9 K/9 GB% BABIP TAv WHIP FIP ERA cFIP DRA DRA-
1997 SLO A- 18 5 62.0 2 1 2 53 26 44 7 .000 7.7 3.8 1.0 6.4 0% .266 .000 1.27 5.49 2.47 0 0.00 0.0
1998 SJO A+ 22 22 122.0 8 6 0 100 48 118 13 .000 7.4 3.5 1.0 8.7 0% -.486 .000 1.21 4.39 3.32 0 0.00 0.0
1998 SHV AA 4 4 15.3 1 3 0 20 9 10 4 .000 11.8 5.3 2.4 5.9 0% -.696 .000 1.90 7.38 8.82 0 0.00 0.0
1999 SFN MLB 19 14 90.3 7 4 1 84 46 54 17 .256 98 8.4 4.6 1.7 5.4 43% .242 .263 1.44 5.88 4.18 116 6.55 127.4
1999 SHV AA 2 2 8.7 0 1 0 5 7 7 0 .000 5.2 7.2 0.0 7.2 0% -.357 .000 1.38 4.20 3.10 0 0.00 0.0
1999 FRE AAA 13 13 74.7 6 4 0 68 36 82 11 .000 8.2 4.3 1.3 9.9 0% -.442 .000 1.39 4.79 4.46 0 0.00 0.0
2000 SFN MLB 20 15 93.3 5 2 0 89 63 61 12 .258 101 8.6 6.1 1.2 5.9 45% .269 .264 1.63 5.57 5.21 121 8.62 165.8
2000 BAK A+ 1 1 5.3 1 0 0 2 7 6 0 .000 3.4 11.9 0.0 10.2 0% -.154 .000 1.70 5.38 5.09 0 0.00 0.0
2000 SJO A+ 1 1 5.0 0 1 0 4 1 2 1 .000 7.2 1.8 1.8 3.6 0% -.750 .000 1.00 6.08 3.60 0 0.00 0.0
2000 FRE AAA 3 3 14.3 0 2 0 15 7 9 4 .000 9.4 4.4 2.5 5.7 0% -.550 .000 1.54 7.42 4.41 0 0.00 0.0
2001 SHV AA 21 7 62.3 3 6 0 73 37 33 11 .000 10.5 5.3 1.6 4.8 0% -.721 .000 1.77 6.77 6.93 0 0.00 0.0
2001 FRE AAA 10 10 46.3 0 5 0 63 33 21 13 .000 12.2 6.4 2.5 4.1 0% -.746 .000 2.07 8.43 7.78 0 0.00 0.0
2002 SFN MLB 4 0 3.7 0 0 0 1 0 2 0 .262 89 2.5 0.0 0.0 4.9 22% .100 .071 0.27 1.78 0.00 100 4.87 104.5
2002 FRE AAA 31 25 146.3 6 12 0 167 74 117 20 .000 10.3 4.6 1.2 7.2 0% .320 .000 1.65 5.21 5.60 0 0.00 0.0
2003 SFN MLB 78 0 79.0 12 4 0 51 33 83 7 .256 96 5.8 3.8 0.8 9.5 32% .232 .209 1.06 3.39 2.96 78 3.47 72.6
2004 MIN MLB 73 0 72.3 1 2 44 48 23 89 3 .261 101 6.0 2.9 0.4 11.1 34% .269 .185 0.98 2.27 1.62 60 2.82 58.1
2005 MIN MLB 69 0 70.0 7 4 43 46 22 94 5 .261 97 5.9 2.8 0.6 12.1 38% .265 .196 0.97 2.23 2.70 53 2.53 54.4
2006 MIN MLB 64 0 68.3 7 0 36 38 16 95 3 .258 103 5.0 2.1 0.4 12.5 38% .238 .166 0.79 1.72 1.58 47 2.08 42.4
2006 USA wor 3 0 3.0 0 0 0 2 1 5 0 .000 6.0 3.0 0.0 15.0 0% .400 .000 1.00 2.42 0.00 0 0.00 0.0
2007 MIN MLB 68 0 71.7 4 2 37 54 19 77 4 .265 94 6.8 2.4 0.5 9.7 43% .276 .201 1.02 2.71 1.88 72 3.05 63.1
2008 MIN MLB 68 0 67.7 1 2 39 43 18 74 5 .262 96 5.7 2.4 0.7 9.8 49% .235 .181 0.90 2.81 1.33 68 2.58 55.1
2009 MIN MLB 70 0 68.7 2 2 47 42 22 89 7 .259 104 5.5 2.9 0.9 11.7 42% .232 .192 0.93 2.91 2.10 61 2.19 47.0
2011 MIN MLB 48 0 44.7 2 1 14 38 14 43 7 .262 104 7.7 2.8 1.4 8.7 37% .250 .259 1.16 4.31 4.84 87 3.23 75.2
2011 ROC AAA 3 1 3.0 0 0 0 2 1 5 0 .267 105 6.0 3.0 0.0 15.0 33% .333 .168 1.00 0.90 0.00 92 3.41 93.8
2012 TEX MLB 66 0 64.3 3 5 37 55 13 78 7 .264 105 7.7 1.8 1.0 10.9 46% .306 .228 1.06 2.73 2.80 61 2.18 49.9
2013 TEX MLB 67 0 64.7 6 2 43 36 22 73 2 .267 100 5.0 3.1 0.3 10.2 34% .224 .183 0.90 2.28 1.39 70 2.57 61.6
2014 DET MLB 62 0 58.0 5 4 35 60 29 54 5 .261 108 9.3 4.5 0.8 8.4 44% .324 .266 1.53 3.97 4.81 95 4.40 108.0
2015 DET MLB 1 0 0.3 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 .246 104 0.0 0.0 0.0 27.0 0% .000 .004 0.00 -2.90 0.00 0 0.00 0.0
2015 TOL AAA 1 0 0.7 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 .257 108 0.0 0.0 0.0 13.5 100% .000 .011 0.00 0.15 0.00 96 4.06 102.2
2016 CHN MLB 3 0 2.0 1 0 0 2 2 4 0 .282 96 9.0 9.0 0.0 18.0 0% .500 .347 2.00 2.18 0.00 99 6.14 135.9
2016 SFN MLB 7 0 4.3 1 0 0 3 2 5 0 .273 99 6.2 4.2 0.0 10.4 27% .273 .180 1.15 2.26 0.00 87 3.90 86.3
2016 RIC AA 6 0 6.0 1 0 2 3 1 7 0 .253 4.5 1.5 0.0 10.5 43% .214 .124 0.67 1.52 0.00 91 3.20 93.7
2016 TEN AA 7 0 6.7 0 1 0 3 0 6 2 .273 4.0 0.0 2.7 8.1 18% .067 .174 0.45 5.41 2.70 89 2.89 90.5
2016 IOW AAA 4 0 2.7 0 0 0 0 5 3 0 .275 0.0 16.9 0.0 10.1 20% .000 .258 1.88 8.22 6.75 113 6.09 114.6
2017 SYR AAA 17 0 16.0 0 2 4 19 8 15 3 .255 10.7 4.5 1.7 8.4 35% .333 .297 1.69 5.58 6.19 115 6.09 138.9

Plate Discipline

YEAR PITCHES ZONE_RT SWING_RT CONTACT_RT Z_SWING_RT O_SWING_RT Z_CONTACT_RT O_CONTACT_RT SW_STRK_RT
2008 1036 0.4942 0.4855 0.6958 0.6387 0.3359 0.7920 0.5170 0.3042
2009 1122 0.4216 0.4652 0.6590 0.5962 0.3698 0.7872 0.5083 0.3410
2011 808 0.4901 0.4505 0.7885 0.6237 0.2840 0.8623 0.6325 0.2115
2012 1068 0.5028 0.4785 0.7182 0.6350 0.3202 0.7889 0.5765 0.2818
2013 1009 0.4767 0.4767 0.7277 0.6528 0.3163 0.7707 0.6467 0.2723
2014 1051 0.4643 0.4358 0.7707 0.6045 0.2895 0.8678 0.5951 0.2293
2015 4 0.0000 0.7500 0.3333 0.7500 0.3333 0.6667
2016 125 0.4320 0.4560 0.6842 0.7222 0.2535 0.7949 0.4444 0.3158
Career62230.47260.46590.72240.62620.32020.80860.57330.2776

Injury History  —  No longer being updated

Last Update: 12/31/2014 23:59 ET

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
2014-09-03 2014-09-08 DTD 5 5 Right Elbow Inflammation -
2012-09-14 2012-09-19 DTD 5 4 Right Arm Fatigue - -
2011-05-24 2011-06-23 15-DL 30 26 Right Forearm Inflammation -
2010-03-26 2010-10-10 60-DL 198 162 Right Elbow Recovery From Surgery Tommy John Surgery 2010-03-26
2010-03-07 2010-03-26 Camp 19 0 Right Elbow Surgery Tommy John Surgery 2010-03-26
2009-10-20 2009-10-20 Off 0 0 Right Elbow Surgery Bone Chips 2009-10-20
2009-02-26 2009-03-08 Camp 10 0 Right Shoulder Soreness AC Joint -
2007-05-23 2007-05-23 DTD 0 0 Right Lower Leg Contusion Broken Bat -
2004-08-31 2004-08-31 DTD 0 0 Right Fingers Laceration Ring Finger -
2000-10-02 2000-10-02 Off 0 0 Right Shoulder Surgery 2000-10-02 -
2000-07-14 2000-08-18 15-DL 35 33 Right Shoulder Inflammation - -
2000-05-13 2000-06-06 15-DL 24 21 Right Shoulder Inflammation Tendonitis - -

Compensation

Year Team Salary
2016 CHN $
2015 DET $10,000,000
2014 DET $9,000,000
2013 TEX $7,000,000
2012 TEX $7,000,000
2011 MIN $11,250,000
2010 MIN $11,250,000
2009 MIN $11,250,000
2008 MIN $11,250,000
2007 MIN $5,250,000
2006 MIN $3,750,000
2005 MIN $2,100,000
2004 MIN $440,000
2003 SFN $300,000
2000 SFN $225,000
YearsDescriptionSalary
14 yrPrevious$90,065,000
14 yrTotal$90,065,000

 

Service TimeAgentContract Status
15 y 60 dDave Pepe1 year (2017)

Details
  • 1 year (2017). Signed by Washington as a free agent 1/31/17 (minor-league contract with salary of $1.25M in majors). Released by Washington 3/27/17 (exercised right to opt out). Re-signed by Washington 4/9/17 (minor-league contract). Released by Washington 5/31/17.
  • 1 year/$0.5075M (2016), plus 2017 club option. Signed by Chicago Cubs as a free agent 5/17/16. 16:$0.5075M (pro-rated), 17:$1.5M club option. 2017 option increases to $1.75M with a $0.125M buyout if Nathan appears in 30 games in 2016, spends 75 days on the active roster and finishes the 2016 season uninjured. 2017 becomes a mutual option for $2M with a $0.25M buyout if Nathan has 30 games finished in 2016, spends 75 days on the active roster and finishes the 2016 season uninjured. 2016 bonuses: $25,000 each for 15, 20, 25, 30 games. $0.1M each for 10, 15, 20 GF. $0.25M each for 25, 30 GF. $0.25M each for 15, 30 days on roster. $333,333 each for 45, 60, 75 days on roster. 2017 bonuses: $25,000 each for 30, 40, 50, 60 games. $0.25M each for 30, 35, 40, 45 GF. $50,000 each for 50, 55, 60 GF. $0.15M each for 30, 45, 60, 75 days on active roster. $0.225M each for 90, 120, 150, 180 days on active roster. Award bonus: $50,000 for Comeback Player of Year. DFA by Chicago Cubs 8/5/16 (refused assignment). Signed by San Francisco as a free agent 8/16/16 (minor-league contract). Contract selected by San Francisco 9/3/16.
  • 2 years/$20M (2014-15), plus 2016 club option. Signed by Detroit as a free agent 12/4/13. 14:$9M, 15:$10M, 16:$10M club option, $1M buyout. Limited no-trade protection (may block deals to five clubs). Detroit declined 2016 option 11/3/15.
  • 2 years/$14.75M (2012-13), plus 2014 club option. Signed by Texas as a free agent 11/22/11. 12:$7M, 13:$7M, 14:$9M club option, $0.75M buyout. Nathan may void option and forfeit buyout with 55 games finished in 2013 and 100 GF in 2012-13. Performance bonuses: $0.1M for 45 GF. $0.3M each for 50, 55, 60 GF. Award bonuses, including $50,000 for All-Star selection. Texas declined 2014 option 11/1/13.
  • 4 years/$47M (2008-11), plus 2012 club option. Signed extension with Minnesota 3/24/08, replacing option year in previous contract. 08-11: $11.25M annually. 12:$12.5M club option, $2M buyout. 2012 option may increase $0.5M each for 55 GF in 2010, 55 GF in 2011, 110 GF in 2010-11. Limited no-trade protection. Minnesota exercised 2008 option 10/29/07.
  • 2 years/$10M (2006-07), plus 2008 club option. Signed extension with Minnesota 3/05. 06:$3.75M, 07:$5.25M, 08:$6M club option, $1M buyout.
  • 2 years/$2.54M (2004-05). Signed extension with Minnesota 3/04. 04:$0.44M, 05:$2.1M. Performance bonuses based on games finished. Award bonuses: $25,000 for All-Star.
  • 1 year/$0.3M (2003). Acquired by Minnesota in trade from San Francisco 11/03.
  • 1 year (2002). Re-signed by San Francisco 2/02.
  • 1 year (2001). Re-signed by San Francisco 2/01.
  • 1 year/$0.225M (2000). Re-signed by San Francisco 2/00.
  • 1 year/$0.2M (1999). Re-signed by San Francisco 2/99.
  • 1 year (1998). Contract purchased by San Francisco 11/97.
  • Drafted by San Francisco as a shortstop 1995 (6-159) (Stony Brook).

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Platoon

SORT_FIELD PLATOON AVG OBP SLG TAv
10 vs L (Multi) .238 .316 .375 .251
11 vs R (Multi) .209 .296 .297 .221
18 Split (Multi) .029 .019 .078 .030
19 LgAvg (Multi) .006 .020 .015 .013
30 vs L (2016) .222 .300 .556 .266
31 vs R (2016) .200 .333 .267 .225
38 Split (2016) .022 -.033 .289 .040
39 LgAvg (2016) .003 .018 .013 .012

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DateQuestionAnswer
2016-05-24 13:00:00 (link to chat)What are the chances Joe Nathan becomes a contributor to the Cubs? Do you think he has a chance to become their closer after the All-Star break?
(fightingmoose from Manitoba)
Theo loves reclamation projects. Always has. Do I think Nathan can throw 15-20 quality innings out of the bullpen? Yes. Can you count on him being a closer? No. (Jim Walsh)
2015-04-16 17:00:00 (link to chat)Mike, Who wins the closers job in Detroit or do they trade for Papelbon?
(John from CT)
They'll probably stick with Joakim Soria unless the Phillies eat a ton of money or if Jon Papelbon negotiates away the vesting option. Bruce Rondon is the sleeper there. I suspect Joe Nathan is toast. (Mike Gianella)
2014-11-12 13:00:00 (link to chat)Hey, Gabe. Every once in a while a broadcaster will say something along the lines of, "Joe Nathan has just two career pickoffs, one of them against Dyson, and you can bet Dyson will want to swipe a bag here to pay him back". Are past events such as this anywhere close to present in a player's mind during an actual game?
(RetroKryptonite from Oklahoma)
That last one was for me. This one is for me, too.

I think the players are very aware of these past events, just like I'm aware of whether I've ever had coffee with Bob from accounting and whether he sort of spittles when he talks. I don't think an example like that one matters to their strategy or approach, though. Not an example like that one.

It's Sam, by the way. Gabe is a different guy. I'm Sam. (Sam Miller)
2013-12-03 13:00:00 (link to chat)Dave Dombrowski knows something we don't, right? He seemed to sell low on Fister, then turns around and signs Joe Nathan. He's still smarter than us, we just can't see why yet, right?
(EdTheRevelator from Cleveland)
Dombrowski is smarter than me, I know that much. The return on Fister feels a little light, but I'm not ready to throw Dombrowski down the well over the Nathan signing. We all know teams don't address their needs in chronological order or anything of that sort. I'd bet on them signing someone like Choo or Ellsbury in the coming weeks. Whether that makes their offseason as a whole a success or not is up for debate. I'm just willing to give him more than 24 hours to put his vision together. (R.J. Anderson)
2013-11-05 13:00:00 (link to chat)Seems like there are a number of older "proven closers" on the free agent market with only a handful of opportunities out there- Joaquin Benoit, Grant Balfour, Joe Nathan, Fernando Rodney, Edward Mujica not to mention the injury reclamation projects like Brian Wilson, Ryan Madson and Joel Hanrahan. With the success that the Cardinals had moving Edward Mujica back two innings and then doing the same with Trevor Rosenthal and Carlos Martinez in the playoffs, are the days of spending big on closers finally over? Does a team like the Cubs with no great in house solution and a smart front office take advantage of the oversaturated market or pass on all those guys?
(Scott from LA)
We'll continue to see a wide variety of approaches to how teams handle the late innings. On the one hand there is certainly something to the idea that there are people who can close and people who can't. But you'd be hard pressed to get a closer enough innings in a season to justify paying big for them (unless, like the Yankees, Phillies, Red Sox, etc. you simply have the money to spend). St. Louis has such a glut of arms they have no reason to go outside the org, but for many teams there simply aren't good reasons to limit a young, high ceiling arm to a closer role. I imagine the Cubs will look for a reasonably priced arm that they think can handle the job, rather than committing more money over multiple years. (Nick J. Faleris)
2013-02-27 20:00:00 (link to chat)Does Joakim Soria have much keeper value left? When do you see him being fantasy viable again?
(zissou from naples)
Soria is a 2014 play for when after Joe Nathan leaves, and even that is obviously iffy. So, no, I don't see a lot of keeper value unless you're in a "keep forever" format. (Mike Gianella)
2012-01-10 13:00:00 (link to chat)Do you think Joe Nathan holds the job
(Matt S. from NYC)
Yes. Research I did at CardRunners Fantasy last year shows that the guy who starts with the job is almost always the favorite to finish with the most saves on his team. Even a pitcher with bad skills who starts with the job should be expected to finish with at least 25 or 30. http://www.crfantasybaseball.com/2011/08/12/how-well-can-we-predict-saves/

Plus, Nathan is still a pretty good pitcher. (Derek Carty)
2011-07-21 16:00:00 (link to chat)15 team league. Got offered Joe Nathan for Adam Dunn. I'm down in the standing and was hoping Dunn could turn it around. But i gotta take this deal right?
(Donny from Chantilly)
If you are really hurting for saves, sure. But I mean, really hurting. (Jason Collette)
2011-06-09 13:00:00 (link to chat)If Capps keeps dropping the ball, so to speak, who's next in line for saves there?
(Sully from Los Angeles, CA)
I guess it's still not time to go back to Joe Nathan, ay? I don't know, and I'm not sure that it matters in real-world terms. Even with as much life as they've shown lately, the Twins are 11.5 games out and don't have the ammo to make a real push. Closers will come--just look at the Astros and Mark Melancon... Who the Yankees threw away. (Steven Goldman)
2011-04-25 13:00:00 (link to chat)Hi Marc, thanks for the chat. I'm wondering if I should trade Prince + Dexter Fowler for Mariano Rivera + Mike Stanton? My current closers are Joe Nathan (yikes) and Brian Wilson. Along with Prince, I have Votto + A-Roid at the corners...in a H2H points league...Thanks
(cbelford from Chicago)
So, you're not using Prince at all? (Marc Normandin)
2011-01-18 13:00:00 (link to chat)Is there anyone out there the Twins can add to help the bullpen? I haven't been upset about losing any of the guys they lost (Crain, Guerrier, Rauch, Fuentes) but I was hoping they would add someone, and a lot of the guys I liked have now signed. I'm probably more optimistic than most Twins fans that they can build a solid bullpen out of what they already have in the organization, but it would be nice to add something.
(russadams from St. Paul)
If they don't add anything, at least Joe Nathan is back. And as they showed you in 2010, you can find useful relievers during the season if you have to. The market is starting to get pretty thin--maybe the Twins will have to make a deal with the A's if they end up adding Fuentes and have an arm to move. (Marc Normandin)
2010-03-15 16:00:00 (link to chat)Very happy to hear the pick up on the Star Trek reference. What are your thoughts on the idea of Francisco Liriano taking over the closer's role for the Twins if Joe Nathan can't come back?
(Tim from Tampa)
My wife and I have gone through the entirety of Voyager and DS9 together. We're on season 5 of TNG. Nerd pride!

Liriano was a reliever for a while (and a good one), then they moved him to the rotation. But he also had a big ouchie. I'd like to see what he can do before I install him as a closer/high leverage guy. You can't just assume that he'll revert to his old form in the pen. (Russell A. Carleton)
2010-03-08 13:00:00 (link to chat)If I recall, Joe Nathan had some chips removed from his elbow in the fall. That's generally not a big deal, right?
(Peter from Mankato)
Usually no. All indications are that this is just adhesions (scar tissue), which is uncomfortable, but nothing to be overly concerned about. Nathan's chips were embedded in the UCL, I'm told, so it was a bit more involved than someone like Santana. (Will Carroll)
2009-12-17 13:00:00 (link to chat)What about the Twins trading garbage for Joe Nathan, Liriano and AJ Pierzynski? That was a pretty bad trade if memory serves.
(bctowns from Tradesville, USA)
I think you mean trading Pierzynski for Nathan, Liriano and Boof Bonser. Also in the picture, but tempered by Liriano's crash and burn and Bonser's injuries and subsequent suckitude. Nathan is statistically the equal of Mariano over the past six years, minus the postseason success. (Jay Jaffe)
2009-06-03 15:00:00 (link to chat)The Minnesota Twins have a good team, but they have some production issues up the middle (Nick Punto especially). Will this be enough to sink the Twins this year?
(twinkies25 from MN)
While that's a problem, the facts that that Liriano and Baker are carrying ERAs above 6.00 and that the bullpen in front of Joe Nathan is no longer a plus are much bigger ones. They'll do the sinking. (Jay Jaffe)
2008-08-18 13:00:00 (link to chat)What needs more help: The Twins Bullpen or the White Sox Rotation?
(Brock D from Shakopee, MN)
The White Sox have enough depth to patch rotation issues--free Charlie Haeger! I'm not sure if the Twins can say the same about their bullpen, although persistent rumors that Pat Neshek might come back provide hope. It's interesting in that the Twins, for a few years, had these great no-name pens; now, they have Joe Nathan and dreams of Neshek. (Joe Sheehan)
2008-03-25 14:00:00 (link to chat)Any opinions on the Joe Nathan extension which you'd care to share?
(mattymatty from phillly)
It seems about right for what a contender TBNL might be willing to slot for an investment in a closer; if the Twins want to spend that money themselves, instead of converting Nathan into other people's prospects, they'll have made a poor exchange. (Christina Kahrl)
2008-03-18 17:00:00 (link to chat)Im not sure if a fantasy question is up your alley, but im in a 5x5 head to head 12 team mixed league and am lacking in pitching, i have offered Joe Nathan J.J. Hardy, and Joey Votto(1b and OF eligiable), along with either Khalil Greene or Mike Napoli (Soto is my starter) for Chris Young, Derek Jeter, and Kosuke Fukudome; would this deal be beneficial to me?
(Keith from Naugatuck, CT)
It's been a long time since I played in a 5x5 league, but I guess I would have to see who you have at the positions you're giving up in order to be able to fully answer your question. It sounds OK, but I would have to know more.

Having said that, making deals in fantasy is part of the fun. All ofyou: Roll the dice! Get on the phone! Play Trader Lane in the privacy of your tool shed. You're there to have fun. (Jim Baker)
2008-03-07 13:00:00 (link to chat)What are the chances that Joe Nathan finishes the season in Minn.?
(Joe from Boston)
About 4-to-1 against, IMO. Closer is one of those positions where teams almost seem to get more if they wait to trade their guy until July. But he has no business being on (what will likely be) a non-competitive club with his contract expiring at the end of the season. (Nate Silver)
2008-03-05 13:00:00 (link to chat)Do you play in any AL-only or NL-only leagues? How does the possible trade of, say, Joe Nathan between leagues effect your pre-season valuation of him?
(ChuckR from Addison, IL)
I've wanted to play in an AL or NL only league for awhile, but I haven't done it yet. Something about scraping the bottom of the talent barrel is appealing to me though. It would really depend on which team he goes to, since Saves are such a team dependent thing. Edit: It seems I misunderstood the question, so to clear up any confusion, I've been putting together the rankings with standard rules, and I haven't considered AL/NL only options. That's where you want PFM to come in, as you can tweak that to your heart's content to figure out the specifics for your league. (Marc Normandin)


BP Roundtables

DateRoundtable NameComment
2009-10-28 17:00:002009 WS Game OneHe's well enough to pitch. Lots of guys head for surgery the day after the season. If the Yankees were playing golf rather than baseball, Robertson would have likely had the surgery by now (I think - conflicting sources.) Think Joe Nathan ... oh what's that, no one noticed that Nathan had chips taken out of his elbow last week? (Will Carroll)
2008-09-30 16:30:00Twins/White Sox Play-In Game"cdoyle31 (Phoenix, AZ): Is it my imagination, or did Harold Reynolds really just suggest that Joe Nathan is the best American-born closing option?"

No, and he's correct. (Joe Sheehan)
 

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