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Birth Date9-10-1983
Height6' 2"
Weight220 lbs
Age35 years, 1 months, 7 days
BatsL
ThrowsR
1.72014
7.62015
5.92016
8.02017
4.22018
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WARP Summary

MLB Statistics

YEAR TEAM AGE G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR TB BB SO HBP SF SH RBI SB CS AVG OBP SLG TAv VORP FRAA WARP
2007 CIN 23 24 89 84 11 27 7 0 4 46 5 15 0 0 0 17 1 0 .321 .360 .548 .301 3.0 -0.7 0.2
2008 CIN 24 151 589 526 69 156 32 3 24 266 59 102 2 2 0 84 7 5 .297 .368 .506 .296 22.3 13.5 3.6
2009 CIN 25 131 544 469 82 151 38 1 25 266 70 106 4 1 0 84 4 1 .322 .414 .567 .334 46.4 2.4 4.9
2010 CIN 26 150 648 547 106 177 36 2 37 328 91 125 7 3 0 113 16 5 .324 .424 .600 .362 72.6 1.8 7.8
2011 CIN 27 161 719 599 101 185 40 3 29 318 110 129 4 6 0 103 8 6 .309 .416 .531 .328 51.4 18.7 7.5
2012 CIN 28 111 475 374 59 126 44 0 14 212 94 85 5 2 0 56 5 3 .337 .474 .567 .360 48.2 9.9 6.1
2013 CIN 29 162 726 581 101 177 30 3 24 285 135 138 4 6 0 73 6 3 .305 .435 .491 .329 55.2 6.0 6.6
2014 CIN 30 62 272 220 32 56 16 0 6 90 47 49 3 2 23 1 1 .255 .390 .409 .303 12.8 2.5 1.7
2015 CIN 31 158 695 545 95 171 33 2 29 295 143 135 5 2 0 80 11 3 .314 .459 .541 .360 69.2 1.3 7.6
2016 CIN 32 158 677 556 101 181 34 2 29 306 108 120 5 8 0 97 8 1 .326 .434 .550 .341 58.6 -1.1 5.9
2017 CIN 33 162 707 559 106 179 34 1 36 323 134 83 8 6 0 100 5 1 .320 .454 .578 .354 69.9 9.5 8.0
2018 CIN 34 145 623 503 67 143 28 2 12 211 108 101 9 3 0 67 2 0 .284 .417 .419 .301 29.2 11.7 4.2
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Statistics for All Levels

'opp' stats - Quality of opponents faced - have been moved and are available only as OPP_QUAL in the Statistics reports now.
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YEAR Team Lg G PA TAv oppAVG oppOBP oppSLG oppTAv BABIP BPF BRAA repLVL POS_ADJ FRAA BRR BVORP BWARP VORP WARP
2003 DYT A 60 233 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .338 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2003 BIL Rk 70 301 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .455 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2004 DYT A 111 473 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .390 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2004 POT A+ 24 96 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .345 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2005 SAR A+ 124 529 .186 .246 .299 .364 .221 .313 93 -4.6 1.7 -1.1 1.4 0.3 -3.8 -0.2 -3.8 -0.2
2006 CHT AA 136 590 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .371 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2007 CIN MLB 24 89 .301 .256 .325 .411 .253 .354 102 4.1 2.6 -1.3 -0.7 -2.4 3.0 0.2 3.0 0.2
2007 LOU AAA 133 580 .303 .260 .332 .395 .258 .341 98 26.6 16.8 -8.9 17.9 -6.6 27.9 4.4 27.9 4.4
2008 CIN MLB 151 589 .296 .259 .326 .410 .259 .328 100 23.1 17.0 -10.8 13.5 -7.1 22.3 3.6 22.3 3.6
2009 CIN MLB 131 544 .334 .262 .331 .419 .264 .372 97 43.2 15.6 -10 2.4 -2.5 46.4 4.9 46.4 4.9
2009 DYT A 2 9 .452 .252 .309 .354 .240 .667 108 1.8 0.3 -0.2 0.6 -0.3 1.6 0.2 1.6 0.2
2009 SAR A+ 1 3 .191 .246 .286 .384 .244 .000 95 -0.2 0.1 -0.1 0.0 0.0 -0.2 -0.0 -0.2 -0.0
2010 CIN MLB 150 648 .362 .256 .321 .396 .265 .361 96 67.3 17.9 -11.4 1.8 -1.2 72.6 7.8 72.6 7.8
2011 CIN MLB 161 719 .328 .255 .319 .400 .262 .349 102 48.3 19.4 -12.4 18.7 -3.9 51.4 7.5 51.4 7.5
2012 CIN MLB 111 475 .360 .256 .316 .401 .260 .404 99 46.8 13.0 -8.3 9.9 -3.2 48.2 6.1 48.2 6.1
2012 DYT A 3 9 .314 .241 .343 .496 .314 .200 99 0.5 0.3 -0.2 0.8 -0.3 0.3 0.1 0.3 0.1
2012 LOU AAA 2 6 .236 .243 .296 .390 .226 .000 116 -0.2 0.2 -0.1 -0.1 0.0 -0.1 -0.0 -0.1 -0.0
2013 CIN MLB 162 726 .329 .252 .315 .389 .257 .360 103 47.8 19.1 -12.2 6.0 0.5 55.2 6.6 55.2 6.6
2013 CAN int 3 14 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .400 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2014 CIN MLB 62 272 .303 .249 .312 .386 .263 .299 98 11 7.0 -4.5 2.5 -0.7 12.8 1.7 12.8 1.7
2014 LOU AAA 2 6 .193 .250 .329 .371 .253 .500 86 -0.5 0.2 -0.1 -0.0 0.0 -0.4 -0.0 -0.4 -0.0
2015 CIN MLB 158 695 .360 .253 .313 .401 .261 .371 96 68.2 18.8 -12 1.3 -5.7 69.2 7.6 69.2 7.6
2016 CIN MLB 158 677 .341 .255 .320 .414 .266 .366 97 55.8 19.1 -12.2 -1.1 -4.1 58.6 5.9 58.6 5.9
2017 CIN MLB 162 707 .354 .255 .322 .422 .264 .321 96 69.4 20.7 -13.3 9.5 -6.9 69.9 8.0 69.9 8.0
2018 CIN MLB 145 623 .301 .250 .321 .405 .266 .333 101 25.5 17.5 -11.1 11.7 -2.6 29.2 4.2 29.2 4.2

Statistics For All Levels

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Year Team Lg PA R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG ISO TAv VORP FRAA WARP
2003 BIL Rk 301 47 76 17 3 6 38 56 80 4 0 .317 .453 .487 .171 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
2003 DYT A 233 19 45 8 0 1 20 34 64 2 5 .231 .351 .287 .056 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
2004 DYT A 473 60 118 26 2 14 73 79 110 9 2 .302 .420 .486 .184 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
2004 POT A+ 96 11 25 7 0 5 20 11 21 1 1 .298 .385 .560 .262 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
2005 SAR A+ 529 64 119 23 2 17 83 52 122 4 5 .256 .335 .425 .168 .186 -3.8 1.4 -0.2
2006 CHT AA 590 85 162 46 2 22 77 78 109 24 7 .319 .411 .547 .228 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
2007 LOU AAA 580 74 146 21 2 22 92 70 110 17 10 .294 .387 .478 .183 .303 27.9 17.9 4.4
2007 CIN MLB 89 11 27 7 0 4 17 5 15 1 0 .321 .360 .548 .226 .301 3.0 -0.7 0.2
2008 CIN MLB 589 69 156 32 3 24 84 59 102 7 5 .297 .368 .506 .209 .296 22.3 13.5 3.6
2009 DYT A 9 3 3 0 0 1 3 2 3 1 0 .429 .556 .857 .429 .452 1.6 0.6 0.2
2009 SAR A+ 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 .000 .333 .000 .000 .191 -0.2 0.0 -0.0
2009 CIN MLB 544 82 151 38 1 25 84 70 106 4 1 .322 .414 .567 .245 .334 46.4 2.4 4.9
2010 CIN MLB 648 106 177 36 2 37 113 91 125 16 5 .324 .424 .600 .276 .362 72.6 1.8 7.8
2011 CIN MLB 719 101 185 40 3 29 103 110 129 8 6 .309 .416 .531 .222 .328 51.4 18.7 7.5
2012 LOU AAA 6 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 4 0 0 .167 .167 .667 .500 .236 -0.1 -0.1 -0.0
2012 CIN MLB 475 59 126 44 0 14 56 94 85 5 3 .337 .474 .567 .230 .360 48.2 9.9 6.1
2012 DYT A 9 1 1 0 0 0 1 3 1 0 0 .200 .444 .200 .000 .314 0.3 0.8 0.1
2013 CIN MLB 726 101 177 30 3 24 73 135 138 6 3 .305 .435 .491 .186 .329 55.2 6.0 6.6
2013 CAN int 14 5 2 0 0 0 0 5 4 0 0 .222 .500 .222 .000 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
2014 CIN MLB 272 32 56 16 0 6 23 47 49 1 1 .255 .390 .409 .155 .303 12.8 2.5 1.7
2014 LOU AAA 6 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 .333 .333 .333 .000 .193 -0.4 -0.0 -0.0
2015 CIN MLB 695 95 171 33 2 29 80 143 135 11 3 .314 .459 .541 .228 .360 69.2 1.3 7.6
2016 CIN MLB 677 101 181 34 2 29 97 108 120 8 1 .326 .434 .550 .225 .341 58.6 -1.1 5.9
2017 CIN MLB 707 106 179 34 1 36 100 134 83 5 1 .320 .454 .578 .258 .354 69.9 9.5 8.0
2018 CIN MLB 623 67 143 28 2 12 67 108 101 2 0 .284 .417 .419 .135 .301 29.2 11.7 4.2

Plate Discipline

YEAR PITCHES ZONE_RT SWING_RT CONTACT_RT Z_SWING_RT O_SWING_RT Z_CONTACT_RT O_CONTACT_RT SW_STRK_RT CSAA_CHANCES CSAA_RT
2008 2068 0.4971 0.4831 0.7678 0.6829 0.2856 0.8390 0.5993 0.2322 807 -0.003209
2009 2140 0.4626 0.4701 0.7475 0.7182 0.2565 0.8045 0.6102 0.2525 848 -0.004178
2010 2513 0.4548 0.4739 0.7607 0.6763 0.3051 0.8060 0.6770 0.2393 1017 -0.002518
2011 2832 0.4679 0.4262 0.7730 0.6189 0.2568 0.8317 0.6486 0.2270 1293 0.004313
2012 1972 0.4746 0.3778 0.7879 0.5566 0.2162 0.8253 0.7009 0.2121 986 0.001436
2013 2964 0.4578 0.3981 0.7924 0.6124 0.2172 0.8339 0.6934 0.2076 1435 -0.002974
2014 1163 0.4703 0.3955 0.7935 0.6051 0.2094 0.8550 0.6357 0.2065 574 -0.004073
2015 2946 0.4695 0.3720 0.7600 0.5835 0.1849 0.7931 0.6678 0.2400 1585 -0.005960
2016 2832 0.4799 0.4213 0.8156 0.6306 0.2281 0.8296 0.7798 0.1844 0 0.000000
2017 2789 0.4919 0.4080 0.8462 0.6582 0.1658 0.8726 0.7447 0.1538 0 0.000000
2018 2497 0.5054 0.3961 0.8220 0.6181 0.1692 0.8397 0.7560 0.1780 0 0.000000
Career267160.47540.41940.78880.63270.22540.8290.68870.2112794.8719-0.0014

Injury History  —  No longer being updated

Last Update: 12/31/2014 23:59 ET

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
2014-07-06 2014-09-29 60-DL 85 76 Right Thigh Strain Distal Quadriceps -
2014-05-16 2014-06-10 15-DL 25 23 Left Thigh Strain Quadriceps - -
2012-08-10 2012-08-10 On-Alr 0 0 Left Knee Surgery Loose Bodies 2012-08-10 -
2012-07-16 2012-09-04 15-DL 50 48 Left Knee Surgery Meniscus 2012-07-17 -
2012-07-01 2012-07-03 DTD 2 2 Right Knee Inflammation - -
2012-06-12 2012-06-12 DTD 0 0 - General Medical Illness - -
2010-09-21 2010-09-24 DTD 3 2 General Medical Illness Sinus Infection -
2010-08-18 2010-08-19 DTD 1 1 Back Tightness -
2010-05-26 2010-06-01 DTD 6 6 Neck Stiffness -
2010-04-16 2010-04-16 DTD 0 0 General Medical Illness -
2009-08-19 2009-08-19 DTD 0 0 General Medical Illness Retinal Migraine -
2009-05-30 2009-06-23 15-DL 24 21 General Medical Mood Disorder Clinical Depression -
2009-05-17 2009-05-23 DTD 6 5 General Medical Infection Inner Ear -
2009-05-13 2009-05-15 DTD 2 1 General Medical Infection Inner Ear -
2009-05-07 2009-05-10 DTD 3 3 General Medical Respiratory Flu -

Compensation

Year Team Salary
2024 CIN $7,000,000
2023 CIN $25,000,000
2022 CIN $25,000,000
2021 CIN $25,000,000
2020 CIN $25,000,000
2019 CIN $25,000,000
2018 CIN $25,000,000
2017 CIN $22,000,000
2016 CIN $20,000,000
2015 CIN $14,000,000
2014 CIN $12,000,000
2013 CIN $19,000,000
2012 CIN $11,500,000
2011 CIN $7,500,000
2010 CIN $525,000
2009 CIN $437,500
2008 CIN $390,000
YearsDescriptionSalary
10 yrPrevious$107,352,500
2018Current$25,000,000
11 yrPvs + Cur$132,352,500
6 yrFuture$132,000,000
17 yrTotal$264,352,500

 

Service TimeAgentContract Status
10 y 27 dDan Lozano10 years/$225M (2014-23)

Details
  • 10 years/$225M (2014-23). Signed extension with Cincinnati 4/3/12. 14:$12M, 15:$14M, 16:$20M, 17:$22M, 18:$25M, 19:$25M, 20:$25M, 21:$25M, 22:$25M, 23:$25M, 24:$20M club option, $7M buyout. Award bonuses, including $75,000 for All-Star selection. Full no-trade clause.
  • 3 years/$38M (2011-13). Signed extension with Cincinnati 1/17/11. $6M signing bonus ($2.5M at signing, $1.5M in 2012, $2.5M in 2014). 11:$5.5M, 12:$9.5M, 13:$17M. Award bonuses, including $50,000 for Gold Glove.
  • 1 year/$0.525M (2010). Re-signed by Cincinnati 3/10.
  • 1 year/$0.4375M (2009). Re-signed by Cincinnati 2/28/09 (split contract, $0.234M in minors).
  • 1 year/$0.39M (2008). Re-signed by Cincinnati 1/29/08 (split contract, $64,400 in minors).
  • 1 year/$0.38M (2007). Re-signed by Cincinnati 1/25/07 (split contract, $60,000 in minors). Optioned to Triple-A 3/07. Recalled 9/4/07.
  • 1 year/$0.327M (2006). Contract purchased by Cincinnati 11/05. Re-signed by Cincinnati 2/06 (split contract). Optioned to Double-A 3/06.
  • Drafted by Cincinnati 2002 (2-44) (Richview Collegiate Institute, Toronto). $0.6M signing bonus.

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Platoon

SORT_FIELD PLATOON AVG OBP SLG TAv
10 vs L (Multi) .312 .414 .495 .323
11 vs R (Multi) .319 .449 .554 .352
18 Split (Multi) .007 .036 .058 .029
19 LgAvg (Multi) .020 .029 .071 .031
30 vs L (2016) .314 .396 .465 .298
31 vs R (2016) .330 .448 .584 .357
38 Split (2016) .016 .053 .119 .059
39 LgAvg (2016) .020 .028 .073 .031

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BP Chats

DateQuestionAnswer
2018-09-10 14:00:00 (link to chat)How concerned are you about Joey Votto's power decline this year? Obviously his on-base skills make him a hugely valuable real-life player but his fantasy production has been disappointing. Any reason to think that changes next year?
(Ben from London)
It's not great from a 34 - wait - now 35-year-old, Happy Birthday Joey! I think the injuries have really bothered him this year. Until we see him get an offseason of rest to address that and then get a look at him next spring, I'm not ready to say the power is going away. The approach is still elite so I'm hopeful that he can get back to the low-20s at least with improved health. (Darius Austin)
2018-07-26 12:00:00 (link to chat)Should the Reds trade Joey Votto? How many teams do you think he'd accept a trade to?
(Greg from Ohio)
This might be an unpopular opinion, but I vote that the Reds keep Joey Votto until retirement. There's a psychic benefit to keeping a guy for his entire career, especially when it's a Hall-of-Fame caliber career. I'm not sure any return would be worth the lost opportunity of Votto being "Mr. Reds" for the first half of the 21st century.

I'd bet he'd take a trade to the Jays, but I'm not in his head, so I can't be sure. Other than that, he'd probably like to play for teams that are solid contenders, and I'd *love* to see him in pinstripes as a full heel. (Bryan Grosnick)
2018-04-05 20:00:00 (link to chat)Hey Mike - has Joey Votto historically got off to slow starts like this?
(Dave N from NY)
His worst month last year was April (although it was a solid month). But he was very bad in 2016 and didn't pick it up until June. So yes. (Mike Gianella)
2017-05-25 13:00:00 (link to chat)Joey Votto has been absolutely worthless for me in my clutch-hitting only fantasy league. Who does this guy think he is and what sort of return can I expect if I attempt to trade this dead weight?
(alcrisafulli from San Diego)
How dare you. (Eric Roseberry)
2017-02-06 23:00:00 (link to chat)Which hit-first, near ready prospect has the better shot at developing average power? Winker or Sisco
(Wilson from somewhere in the Atlantic)
I'll take Winker, I think Joey Votto will teach that kid how to do some things with a baseball bat. (Wilson Karaman)
2015-10-22 14:00:00 (link to chat)Should the Reds trade Joey Votto? Do you think anyone would agree to take on the entire contract?
(Reds Fanboy from Ohio)
No, Cincy would have to eat major money. Which is why I think you just keep him and build around him. He's a robot; he'll age fine if he stays healthy. He can still contribute to a good Reds team in 2017 or so. (Matthew Trueblood)
2015-03-29 14:00:00 (link to chat)*Insert gushing about Mazara, ChiChi, Gallo, and Alfaro below*
(MonkeyEpoxy from Texas)
Mazara dominated games like Bo Jackson dominated Tecmo Bowl

ChiChi made Joey Votto look bad.

We all know what Alfaro can be. (Ryan Parker)
2014-12-18 15:00:00 (link to chat)What do you expect out of Joey Votto next year and long-term? More/less value than Jose Abreu in a keeper league that uses OBP?
(Gotribe31 from VA)
I think Votto bounces back. The injuries are an obvious concern, but I like Votto a healthy amount, especially in OBP leagues. Long-term I'm less optimistic because power was never a strongsuit and I don't see that changing anytime soon. He was able to supplement his value through stolen bases, but if the injuries sap his speed or willingness to run, he loses substantial value. I'll be rolling with Abreu. Votto might outperform him here or there over the years, but Abreu is the more consistent presence, I'd guess. (Craig Goldstein)
2014-09-25 13:00:00 (link to chat)It's been established that Joey Votto should be valued at a top-20ish player going forward. I'm a little concerned about the power. If I wanted to deal him, with a 5-year dynasty outlook, which 1B should I look to maybe swap him with?
(Dr. Mike from Milwaukee)
I'm not sure I'm in on him as a top-20 guy going forward to be honest. I think he and Freeman are going to be fairly comparable going forward. I am concerned the injury affects his ability to run which gave him an added dimension that he could lack going forward. (Craig Goldstein)
2014-09-08 13:00:00 (link to chat)Surprised you didn't mention Mat Latos as the comeback player of 2015,watch that cowboy go,and Dallas will be comeback tweeter of the year too :)
(boatman44 from Liverpool)
Half a season's worth of innings at a better-than-average ERA simply not bad enough to merit comeback discussion. Somebody mentioned Joey Votto as a candidate. I think that's more reasonable, especially if he comes back with a big power season. (Sam Miller)
2014-07-29 14:00:00 (link to chat)I'm contending in a Keeper league and I just traded Joey Votto (who's on the shelf for at least another month and may not be 100% for the rest of the season at least) for Anthony Rizzo, who can help me win now and possibly be a keeper. How do you like Rizzo for ROS and next year? Is Votto entering a decline phase?
(mattstupp from NYC)
I've always liked Rizzo because Epstein/Hoyer like Rizzo, but I haven't followed him closely until last season. It's hard to find something that's not to like about Rizzo. He has this down-and-in hole and he doesn't really use the whole field as much as Votto does, but you've gotta like the plate discipline and power. Votto is such a smart hitter that I would hate to say that he's heading for a decline. He could become a different hitter (as far as the counting stats go), but I think he'll still be productive. (Noah Woodward)
2014-07-24 19:00:00 (link to chat)Dynasty: With Joey Votto on the DL, I'm looking to fill some holes. My current DH is Hunter Pence. Is Pence + Boxberger + A. Torres a good deal for V-Mart + Betances + K. Giles? Neil Walker would move into my DH spot in such a move.
(Sara from Tacoma)
Yeah I love this deal for you. You gain V Mart, potential saves in Giles and great rate stats with a SP4 worth of strikeouts in Betances. (Mauricio Rubio)
2014-07-24 19:00:00 (link to chat)dynasty, 12 team, h2h, 25 MLB, 20 MiLB. What should I be willing to pay for Joc Pederson? The current owner is in contention, while I am not. He inquires on Joey Votto although I am hesitant to move him with his stock so low. He's also offered Pederson in a package for Carlos Gonzalez. What type of impact do you see for Joc when he finally comes up? Is his 20/20 upside real? Should I make a play to get him with my current assets? Thanks!
(Greg from Cleveland)
I gave up Andrew Heaney for Joc in a prospect swap. I've heard that Joc is a hard worker with the tools to succeed. In my mind that gives him a good chance of hitting his upside.

All that said there's no way I'm giving Votto or CarGo for Joc (Mauricio Rubio)
2014-07-03 19:00:00 (link to chat)Have Joey Votto in a 12-team 5x5 roto league with six keepers each year. This season I'm leading the pack in R, HR, RBI, K but struggling in ERA and WHIP. What kind of player should I look to try and get for Votto? My six keepers now are Rizzo, Trout, Tulo, Scherzer, Price and Strasburg.
(Kendal from DC)
Fortune favors the bold

Offer Votto for Felix. (Mauricio Rubio)
2014-07-15 13:00:00 (link to chat)I have some concerns over the Joey Votto injury/trends. His power has been trending down, and the injuries are a concern. I'm in a deep dynasty where he's part of my loaded offense which is playoff bound. What's the prognosis/expected return date? Buy/Sell/Hold?
(AJ from Phoenix)
If you're contending, you might want to sell, even at a low point. He's working without a lower half and I'm just not sure he gets healthy again in '14. (Paul Sporer)
2014-07-15 13:00:00 (link to chat)I have Joey Votto as a 6th round keeper (for perpetuity) in a 5 keeper points format. Enviable position but not this year. I am a fringe playoff team this season and don't want to give away the future but I'm wondering if Altuve (potential 5th rd keeper) and Adrian Gonzalez (not keepable) is a decent return for Votto and W Rosario? Keeping Altuve not ideal since Cano (2nd rd) is one of my other keepers so one would always be used at utility. Thanks Paul.
(Joe Sparma from Tomball)
That's a pretty strong return given Votto's current state. I trust that all of Altuve's excellence translates nicely in your format. Tough to deal Votto at a low point, but if you're contending, this is a strong move to ensure you continue to contend. (Paul Sporer)
2014-06-26 14:00:00 (link to chat)Is trading Joey Votto for Dee Gordon straight up giving too much? I need 2B help (have Zobrist) and I need stolen bases. My 1B is Rizzo and my 1B/3B is filled by VMart
(hamsterjockey from DC)
Yeah, that's too much. (J.P. Breen)
2014-06-26 14:00:00 (link to chat)Who are few guys you'd be buying/selling right now?
(Shawnykid23 from CT)
I guess I don't necessarily keep a list like this lying around, but off the top of my head...

I'm selling: Jesse Chavez, Chase Whitley, Lonnie Chisenhall, Gordon Beckham

I'm buying: Kole Calhoun, Ian Kennedy, Joey Votto, Michael Brantley, Will Smith (J.P. Breen)
2014-01-21 18:00:00 (link to chat)In a 10 team Roto league(6x6-walks for hitters,QS for pitchers) if you had the 10th pick in a snake draft who would you consider taking there?
(Bob from New Hampshire)
A lot depends on the league, but if he's available (and he will be based off of the NFBC ratings http://stats.nesn.com/mlb/adp.asp?pos=all take Joey Votto. In a walks league, the dude's a monster. (Mike Gianella)
2013-12-10 18:00:00 (link to chat)Joey Votto's paucity of RBI was a topic of big discussion last year. What should we expect on the RBI front in 2014 and how would you rank him among 1B in a standard 5x5?
(RMR from Cincinnati)
Hey RMR.

All of this depends on whether or not the Reds put someone decent in front of him in the lineup. Votto was virtually the same as he ever was but suffered through Todd Frazier's miserable OPS and a wounded Brandon Phillips most of the year. If Billy Hamilton can get on base at a semi-decent clip/stick, then Votto's RBI opportunities instantly go up. I'm an unashamed, unapologetic Votto lover. In my mixed valuations last year, only Paul Goldschmidt, Chris Davis, and Michael Cuddyer ranked higher at 1B (not including any non-OF who were 1B eligible). If Miguel Cabrera isn't 1B eligible in your league on Opening Day, Votto's 3rd behind Goldy and Davis. Some of this is just the weakness of the position, some of it is that runs count - and Votto's walks lead to runs - but some of it is that I like valuing skills over stats, particularly since even in a "down" year Votto was still a Top 25 mixed league hitter. I might even put Votto ahead of Davis when I actually sit down and rank these guys in February. (Mike Gianella)
2013-11-07 13:00:00 (link to chat)Kevin, What do you think of the Moneyball way of scouting and Billy Beane's comment of "adapt or die" vs. Grady Fuson's comment of "You're discounting what scouts have doing to 50 years".
(Pete from SF)
A decade after Lewis's book, I see a lot of intelligent blending of information in scouting offices. The point is that you don;t have to retrain any of the old guys to start doing quantitative stuff. You just have to supplement what they give you. The one stat I hear scouts cite most often is the ratio of strikeouts to walks--for hitters as well as pitchers. As for me, I've become much more interested in contact percentage. I think the ability to put the bat on the ball is as much of a "tool" as running speed. Like Tony Gwynn or Joey Votto. (Kevin Kerrane)
2013-02-27 20:00:00 (link to chat)Assuming Cabrera, Trout, and Braun are off the board, who would you take fourth in a OPS league with 4 outfielders and a extra IF slot? Votto? Cano? Pujols? or even reach on Stanton?
(Dylan from Portland,ME)
Hi Dylan. PFM says Albert Pujols, but I'm really high on Joey Votto this year and in an OPS league while I wouldn't go as far to say he's a no brainer he's a strong choice for me. Unlike some of my fantasy colleagues at BP, I think Giancarlo Stanton is a reach here. The BB last year weren't high, and while he may get a few more free passes, the eye doesn't speak to a significant increase in walks. (Mike Gianella)
2012-10-04 14:00:00 (link to chat)The Reds managed a measly 2.9 R/G since September 1st (29 games). As a Reds fan, how worried should I be?
(RMR from Chicago)
As a Giants fan, I certainly hope it continues, but I wouldn't be exceedingly worried. I don't expect Joey Votto's home run drought to last much longer, and Ryan Ludwick should do better than the one he hit in September. This seems like sort of an ebb-and-flow of an offense that (in part because of its ballpark) relies on home runs, and as soon as those start to come again, there won't be any more reason to worry. (Daniel Rathman)
2012-07-25 13:30:00 (link to chat)What's your sense of Dusty Baker's performance in Cincinnati this year. The eam is in first place, has won 13 of 15 despite Joey Votto's absence, and yet there's a vocal contingent calling for his head. Are the Reds winning despite him or has he helped the team overcome some obvious holes in their roster? And in a broader sense, why do we have a much harder time quantifying a manager's performance than we do for individual players?
(seanlahman from NY)
When I look up a player on Baseball-Reference, I find out how he did. When I look up a manager on Baseball-Reference, I find out how his team did. It's harder to quantify a manager's contribution because we don't know how to measure his leadership skills, and leadership skills make up a bigger percentage of a manager's job than a player's. We track some manager stats at BP, but it's not as easy to translate them into wins and losses as it is with the other stats we provide.

I'm sympathetic to the fan perspective that every questionable tactical move is a fireable offense (In fact, I've even sort of supported it), but the players like Dusty and appear to play hard for him, and that matters too. (Ben Lindbergh)
2012-01-30 13:00:00 (link to chat)With Pujols and Fielder now in the AL, how many NL players are the type of guy that casual fans will know and want to buy a ticket to see? Lincecum? Strasburg? I'm struggling to find a few.
(Stay Gold, Man from Outsiders)
You mean besides Will Venable? It does seem like the NL is in a bit of a down cycle when it comes to minting sluggers. There is still Joey Votto and Matt Kemp, maybe Ryan Braun doesn't get suspended, and someone like Justin Upton steps into a greater light, or Mike Stanton captures the world's attention... I would buy a ticket to watch Troy Tulowitzki play. (Steven Goldman)
2011-04-13 13:00:00 (link to chat)Is Joey Votto really this good?
(In Love from (Cincinnati))
Yes. Is this chat really still going on? (Jason Parks)
2010-09-29 13:00:00 (link to chat)We may not need to care about what the BBWAA votes on in terms of the MVP, but doesn't it bother you that many of those outside of the BBWAA, who claim to be enlightened due to stats, just misuse advanced statistics in the same way that the more mainstream, old-school camp misuses older, less complicated metrics? Colin Wyers brought up a very good point in a recent article about how people adhered too strictly to the decimal point on something like WARP or WAR, given that the data contained within them was not perfect. So why is it that so many people sneer when someone says Adrian Gonzalez, Joey Votto and Albert Pujols have all basically been the same player in 2010?
(Marc from I'm In Your Internets)
It kind of bothers me, but it doesn't keep me up at night (at least, not to the extent that old movies do). It's a little frustrating that a primitive wrong has been replaced by a more advanced wrong, in some circles, but I'd still consider it progress. Things are moving in the right direction, don't you think?

As for your second question--well, people like definitive answers, and WAR(P) seems to offer them, if one doesn't bother to look too hard. Maybe it's a lack of sabermetric education. (Ben Lindbergh)
2010-09-29 13:00:00 (link to chat)Next 5 years, Jay Bruce or Joey Votto?
(Rick from Chicago)
Votto. He does have a few years on Bruce, so 5 years from now Votto will have reached the wrong side of 30, while Bruce will still be squarely in his prime, but I'm going to go with the guy who's already a presumptive MVP. For the 5 years after that, I might change my answer. (Ben Lindbergh)
2010-09-21 13:00:00 (link to chat)Joey Votto, Albert Pujols, Carlos Gonzalez and Troy Tulowitzki has made the NL MVP race the most compelling in quite some time. Who do you give the edge to and why?
(SprungOnSports from Long Island)
It's still Votto for me, though if Tulowitzki continues to make up for the month he missed in a single month he's an intriguing candidate for me. I think of it this way--they have very similar lines, and while Tulowitzki is a shortstop and maybe should get some extra credit for that, Votto has played all season. If Tulowitzki hadn't missed a month I would think more of him, but again, it's really close for me even with that, and I'm giving Votto the edge based solely on playing time. (Marc Normandin)
2010-08-24 14:30:00 (link to chat)Joey Votto: Will he be the greatest "Joey" ever? (Joes and Josephs don't count.)
(Olinkapo from SoCal)
He doesn't have a whole lot of competition in baseball. Pretty slim pickings in the Joey department: http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl/player_search.cgi?search=joey. I guess it comes down to whether he's greater than Joey Ramone. I'll say yes, when it's all said and done. (Ben Lindbergh)
2010-08-24 14:30:00 (link to chat)Albert Belle was called "Joey" when he made his major league debut and was a greater hitter during his career than Joey Votto is so far.
(Michael from Detroit, MI)
True, but if you relinquish the name mid-career, are you still entitled to be the best Joey? (Ben Lindbergh)
2010-07-06 14:00:00 (link to chat)NL All-Stars: Omar Infante vs. Joey Votto - discuss.
(GBSimons from Boise, ID)
The internet has already expressed its displeasure at the pick, so I don't have much to add. However, if we're going to blame someone, we should blame Bud Selig instead of Charlie Manuel, since MLB apparently decreed that a utility player must be present for each side.

Chinese food is here--I'll tip well. It's hot out there. (Ben Lindbergh)
2010-07-06 14:00:00 (link to chat)As I am voting for Joey Votto in true chicago fashion, I find it odd to call a grown man Joey. am I the only one?
(Mike (Not Mikey) from Chicago)
I'm with you there. Pal Joey, maybe. (Ben Lindbergh)
2010-06-10 13:00:00 (link to chat)The reputation that permitted him to steal the 2006 MVP from the clearly correct choice, Joe Mauer?
(Minneapolitan from Nashville)
That's the one! I think he got tired of people saying Justin Smoak was the switch-hitting Justin Morneau, or that Joey Votto was the hitter people thought Justin Morneau was. He's taken it up a notch or six. (Marc Normandin)
2010-03-26 13:00:00 (link to chat)Who do you think has the better chance of making the leap from "very good" to "elite" level first baseman this year: Joey Votto or Billy Butler?
(Bill from LA)
Votto's pretty much already there except for the durability. He's got a career .314 True Average in about 1200 PA. Butler's at .274 through 1500 PA and he's a disasterpiece with the glove. That said, he's also two and a half years youngers, so there's still hope, but if I had to pick one, the choice is easy. (Jay Jaffe)
2010-02-23 13:00:00 (link to chat)Over under on Joey Votto's Homers this year: 29.5
(steve from NJ)
Wait a sec... I'M Steve in NJ. There are two of us? I'm taking the over, not by a ton, and hopeful that he's completely past his problems of last season. (Steven Goldman)
2010-02-05 13:00:00 (link to chat)thoughts on Joey Votto this year? he seems to be all over the place in everyone's rankings.
(sawred14 from Forked River, NJ)
Vottosaurus Rex is great, I just have to figure out how great when compared to other first basemen. 1B is seriously stacked--Kendry Morales was just a little above-average last year despite the great line he put up. I like Votto more than most though--dude is what people thought/think Justin Morneau is. (Marc Normandin)
2010-02-02 13:00:00 (link to chat)What are your thoughts on the 2010 Reds? Any chance they contend in 2010?
(Brandon from Charleston, WV)
No. I think PECOTA is dead wrong on that team. The division isn't great, so it could be like a couple years ago where they "stay in it" but they'll need Stubbs to establish himself, for Jay Bruce to be a real star rather than pretty good, and Joey Votto to take the next step. They're counting on Scott Rolen and a Dusty Baker pitching staff to stay healthy so ... (Will Carroll)
2010-01-21 13:00:00 (link to chat)Joey Votto=Albert Pujols? Am I crazy?
(lyndon from Columbus)
Yes. Joey Votto is more like the player people think Justin Morneau is. (Marc Normandin)
2009-11-02 15:00:00 (link to chat)Joe-thanks for the chat. Reds question-do the Reds move Joey Votto to LF when Yonder Alonso is ready, or trade Alonso?
(raygu1 from burlington, NJ)
Neither guy can play left field well enough. I think they'll trade Votto just because he'll have a lot more perceived value by the time a deal has to happen. I'm not completely sold on the idea that Alonso will force this issue. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-05-14 13:00:00 (link to chat)What's up with Joey Votto, his dizziness just sounds scarier than it is?
(Aaron from YYZ)
Dehydration. A bad combo of flu and the desert. (Will Carroll)
2009-04-28 13:00:00 (link to chat)Any word out of Cincinnati if they're thinking of actually picking up some offense? Joey Votto is the only real hitter on the team it seems.
(Scott from Detroit)
You don't see many trades go down this early in the season so I'd say they are standing pat. I was of the belief all winter that they were one big bat away from making a serious run at the NL Central. I still feel that way. (John Perrotto)
2009-04-16 13:00:00 (link to chat)Joey Votto. I'm stacked at the position and could use some help on the mound. What's his value on the trade market? Anybody in particular I should be buying low?
(Chad from NYC)
Well, I think Joey Votto = Justin Morneau, but you're going to have to convince whoever you're trading with that it's true. (Marc Normandin)
2009-03-03 13:00:00 (link to chat)Marc, what do you think about Joey Votto taking a step forward this year? I find his utter lack of platoon or home/road splits last year extremely intriguing for a young lefty power hitter..
(Aaron from YYZ)
Joey Votto is a safe pick, one of the safest you can make at first base. I'm positive he's going to hit at least .275/.355/.490, and because of his home park, quality first full year and the lack of splits, I think he may even top that. I like him a lot, more than some others, but I think there are plenty of people who share my thoughts there. (Marc Normandin)
2009-01-29 13:00:00 (link to chat)Jay Bruce or Joey Votto? Who will have the most fantasy production for the 2009 season?
(bianchiveloce from Anderson, SC)
Ooh, good question. You've got the high-upside potential star who struggled and produced at random times in Bruce, and you've got Votto, who is definitely the safe pick for production out of the two. I think there's a good chance that Votto outproduces Bruce over the long run in 2009, but only because it takes Bruce some time to dig in and turn a corner. Once he turns, he's The Man. (Marc Normandin)
2009-01-07 13:00:00 (link to chat)What do you know about Joey Votto's ability to play the OF? Supposedly Alonso was drafted with that thought in mind.
(John from Cincy)
He can't be worse than Dunn was, can he? Its worth the experiment at the point Alonso forces the Reds to figure it out. (Will Carroll)
2008-12-05 14:00:00 (link to chat)Do you Reds fans finally have reason for optimism with a solid young core of Jay Bruce, Joey Votto, Edwin Encarnacion, Brandon Phillips, Chris Dickerson, Johnny Cueto, and Edinson Volquez?
(Brandon from Charleston)
Absolutely, there's reason for optimism so long as Dusty Baker doesn't mangle those arms.

I had the Reds as my sleeper team last year and while they didn't get there, most of the guys you mentioned are fascinating, with a ton of upside. The series I watched most closely all year long was when the Reds came to Yankee Stadium in late June.

I don't see the Reds with a shot at the 2009 NL Central but I think third place is a possibility with the right moves this winter. One of which might be taking out a restraining order against Baker from coming to the ballpark. (Jay Jaffe)
2008-10-15 13:00:00 (link to chat)With quality young talent like Jay Bruce, Johnny Cueto, Edinson Volquez, Joey Votto, and others, do you think the Reds are close to contending?
(smitty25039 from Charleston)
If you haven't already, check out Kevin Goldstein's article on which teams might be the "next Rays" in the NL. http://baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=8203
The Reds are close, but as Goldstein says, the outlook is "semi-bright, but not perfect." One big problem is the outfield corners; they've got nobody now without Dunn, and it doesn't look like minor league center fielder Drew Stubbs is quite ready to make enough impact with the bat to move Jay Bruce to a corner. According to Goldstein, Cincinnati is also pretty weak in pitching prospects beyond the group that already hit the majors this season, and the 2008 results from Homer Bailey were discouraging. Still, Cueto and Volquez are a fantastic young duo, and I'm pretty high on Ramon Ramirez, too, who pitched well in September and has a nasty changeup. Not in 2009, but by 2010 they could be fighting for a division title if that starting trio continues to develop. (Caleb Peiffer)
2008-05-27 13:00:00 (link to chat)Why aren't the Reds a little better? I like their top 4 a lot and even with Bruce and Bailey in the minors the core of Philips/Votto/Dunn/Encarnacion seems like it should put up some runs... Now with Bruce up can they make a push?
(justin from Michigan)
That's the weird thing about the Reds. If I were a Reds fan, I'd actually be pretty excited about several of my performances this year: Volquez, obviously, but also Joey Votto, Keppinger; Johnny Cueto has had longball issues, but his strikeout rate is very good. I think they very well could be a second-half sleeper, particularly as Bruce is a huge upgrade over Patterson. I'd certainly rather have $100 bucks riding on them than, say, the Astros. (Nate Silver)
2008-03-18 17:00:00 (link to chat)Im not sure if a fantasy question is up your alley, but im in a 5x5 head to head 12 team mixed league and am lacking in pitching, i have offered Joe Nathan J.J. Hardy, and Joey Votto(1b and OF eligiable), along with either Khalil Greene or Mike Napoli (Soto is my starter) for Chris Young, Derek Jeter, and Kosuke Fukudome; would this deal be beneficial to me?
(Keith from Naugatuck, CT)
It's been a long time since I played in a 5x5 league, but I guess I would have to see who you have at the positions you're giving up in order to be able to fully answer your question. It sounds OK, but I would have to know more.

Having said that, making deals in fantasy is part of the fun. All ofyou: Roll the dice! Get on the phone! Play Trader Lane in the privacy of your tool shed. You're there to have fun. (Jim Baker)
2008-03-05 13:00:00 (link to chat)Where would Joey Votto rank on your first basemen list if he were given the starting job over Hatteberg? I assume that the uncertainty over his playing time has affected his fantasy projection pretty heavily.
(Steve from Detroit, MI)
Before I cursed about seeing Scott Hatteberg ahead of him on the depth chart, I was about to rank him either #9 or #10. The playing time was the problem, yes; keep an eye out for him this year, as Hatteberg may eventually lose the job. (Marc Normandin)
2008-03-05 13:00:00 (link to chat)Jay Bruce or Joey Votto?
(Steve-o from Fort Myers)
Jay Bruce. (Marc Normandin)
2008-02-27 13:00:00 (link to chat)Do you think Joey Votto has any shot at winning the starting job in Cincinatti this year?
(Billy from Iowa City, IA)
There are a lot of questions here about the Reds and how their roster will shake out, all of which, I think, stems from insecurity over Dusty Baker making the right decision. We were talking about Tris Speaker before -- if he were available, Dusty would be trying to sign him. Look, I don't think any of us can say what Dusty and the Reds will do, because we don't know to what degree rationality really holds sway there. If it were up to us we would go with the high upside of guys like Votto and Bruce, but that's now how Dusty thinks about things. One thing that will give us a clue is, obviously, spring training performance, not because 50 PAs in March will prove more to US about a player than all of last year's minor league numbers did, but because if the youngsters don't play well, Dusty won't give them the benefit of the doubt. He'll have an excuse to go Hatteberg and Lofton and Dead Ted Kluzewski. (Steven Goldman)


BP Roundtables

DateRoundtable NameComment
2010-10-06 10:00:002010 Playoffs Day OneMy season-opening prediction that Jay Bruce would be the NL MVP this year was admittedly insane, but I do think the kid is going to be a magastar soon.

On a related note, kudos to the reader who responded to that prediction by saying he felt Joey Votto had a legitimate shot at the MVP. (David Laurila)
2010-07-13 16:30:00All-Star GameOne hopes Joey Votto's much-belabored, too-belated All-Star appearance wasn't about getting him the privilege of a one-pitch plate appearance. (Christina Kahrl (ASG))
 

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