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|2015-06-10 14:00:00 (link to chat)||Who are your favorite buy/sell targets right now? Maybe 1 hitter and 1 pitcher to each buy/sell on?|
(Shawn from Cubicle)
|Ian Desmond is my favorite "buy" target for hitters. Carlos Carrasco for pitchers. In terms of selling, I'd be cashing out on someone like Dustin Pedroia and Ubaldo Jimenez. I'd also sell hard on Nick Martinez, but I'm not sure you'll get much value for him. (J.P. Breen)|
|2015-04-16 17:00:00 (link to chat)||Mike,
Thanks for the chat!! You guys are the best!! What are your thoughts about Dellin Betances? Is his reduced velocity/control issue simply a mechanics thing or is it likely that there's some underlying injury issue?? Thanks for sharing your thoughts!|
(Horace from NYC)
|I suspect it's mechanical, though if he's hiding an injury I'd have no way of knowing. He has shown some signs of throwing faster, so maybe it is mechanical and he's about to turn a corner. Then again, I remember telling myself that years ago with Ubaldo Jimenez and it didn't happen. (Mike Gianella)|
|2014-11-18 13:00:00 (link to chat)||Could you see a scenario where the Indians find a way to rid themselves of Bourn's contract this offseason?|
(username49 from Ohio)
|It won't be easy, but I could envision some in which they swallow a similar contract; what I can't see Antonetti doing is throwing away prospects to clear Bourn. He's owed about $40 million over the next three years, if I'm remembering correctly, so that's about $13 million or, say, a little over 2 wins per year. Let me toss a question back at you if you're still hanging around: Given the success that he had in Cleveland in 2013 (and supposing the Orioles would do it, which they might not), would you take back Ubaldo Jimenez for Bourn? (Daniel Rathman)|
|2014-02-28 14:00:00 (link to chat)||I keep hearing that there is risk in Ubaldo Jimenez arising from inconsistent mechanics. Do you agree? Did his mechanics improve at the end of last season when he was very effective?
(TGisriel from Baltimore)
|Ubaldo has terribly inconsistent mechanics, both in terms of timing and positioning. His saloon-door stride lands in a very different spot on nearly every pitch, and sometimes he is setup to throw at the on-deck circle behind the left-hand batter's box. His posture wavers from bad to horrific, and his rotational timing is all over the map. He ironed out the last bit for a portion of last season, which helped to rediscover some of his lost velocity and created some more repetition for his release point, but keep in mind that his crazy-good streak boiled down to 6 weeks of pitching versus weak opponents. I am very bearish on his future.
On the jukebox: Misfits, "Come Back" (Doug Thorburn)
|2014-02-13 13:00:00 (link to chat)||Where do you think Ubaldo Jimenez ends up and what might the deal look like? |
(Andrew from Canada)
|Toronto for a fatter version of the Garza deal would be my guess. It's just hard for me to picture the Blue Jays ending this winter without acquiring a starter. (R.J. Anderson)|
|2014-02-10 13:00:00 (link to chat)||Who will have a better year in AL H-H league? Ervin Santana, Ubaldo Jimenez, or Chris Archer. (both FA would be eligible in our league even if they're in NL). Also, salaries are equal, who would you rather have Greinke or Joe Mauer?|
(redsoxin2004 from Columbia, CT)
|Archer, Greinke. (Jeff Moore)|
|2014-01-23 12:00:00 (link to chat)||Will Toronto sign Ervin Santana?|
(Alex from Anaheim)
|They need to sign someone who can start. I'd rather have Ubaldo Jimenez myself, but Santana would be an upgrade for them as well. The Jays have a good roster (if healthy) and a shot at contention if they can find the starting pitching. Maybe Stroman steps up, but I wouldn't bet on it this season. Will Brandon Morrow be healthy? Yeah, they need to sign someone. (Matthew Kory)|
|2014-01-02 13:00:00 (link to chat)||Thank you for the chat, Craig. Who do you like better over the next few years, Matt Garza or Ubaldo Jimenez? Do you think Ubaldo is worth giving up a first round pick (say around pick #15) to sign if you need a mid-rotation starter like the Angels?|
(Dennis from LA)
|Give me Garza. I'm not at all confident he changes in Ubaldo's mechanics are here to stay. (Craig Goldstein)|
|2013-12-10 18:00:00 (link to chat)||Thoughts on the Angels/Dbacks/White Sox trade? How do you like Santiago and Skaggs in Anaheim?|
(Dennis from LA)
I'm glad somebody asked this.
Let's start with the White Sox. A lot of the smart baseball folks on my Twitter timeline were enthused by Adam Eaton, but I'm not all that excited. Even if you see him as a starter and not a fourth outfielder, Eaton's upside seems limited to me. His batting averages in the minor leagues were PCL driven and I see more of a .260 hitter here with not enough power to make a huge splash. From a needs perspective, I can see why the Sox gave up Hector Santiago, but I think the Sox could have done a little better.
The Diamondbacks made the play for a big power hitter, but while Mark Trumbo might hit 35-40 home runs for Arizona he has a number of flaws. He isn't a good on base option, and his defense in the outfield is going to be a big downgrade for the D-backs. Moving an outfielder made sense for Arizona but moving Eaton for another outfielder isn't necessarily the right play. Trumbo is an overall upgrade on Eaton, though, so even though the Diamondbacks are paying a lot for the right to this upgrade, it is an improvement overall.
However, the Diamondbacks didn't just give up Eaton. They also gave up on Tyler Skaggs. A number of scouts/scouting types are down on Skaggs now, but he's still very young and could develop into more than just a #3 or #4 starter. The Angels give up Trumbo and lose out on a power hitter but gain some considerable upside in both Skaggs and Santiago...and avoid paying a pitcher like Ubaldo Jimenez $15-16 million per year in this crazy free agent market. Maybe Skaggs and Santiago work out and maybe they don't, but I like the play that the Angels made here. From a fantasy perspective, the park is going to help both of those pitchers out a lot, but from a baseball perspective the Angels suddenly look a lot stronger than they did yesterday. (Mike Gianella)
|2013-10-28 18:00:00 (link to chat)||CC Sabathia worth targeting/stashing for cheap next year? seems his year was horrid yet had 14W, 175K. Big bounce back candidate if he controls the long ball, even though hes lost a few ticks on the FB?|
(George from Bronx)
|If he's cheap enough, sure. As you point out the whiffs were high and he could be one of those pitchers who figure out how to live with diminished velocity. Felix Hernandez's fastball speed keeps dropping and he had one of his best seasons in 2013, while Ubaldo Jimenez finally managed to figure it out in the second half. My concern about CC is that the drop in velo is the sign of an injury lurking and that if you take him you might only get 75-100 innings next year. So if the price is right grab him, but don't simply think that second tier is "cheap" (Mike Gianella)|
|2013-10-24 13:00:00 (link to chat)||Thanks for the chat Matt! Now that the Giants have resigned Big Time Timmy Jim, who else will the Giants pursue in the pitching department? They still have possibly two more rotation spots to fill. Any possibilities with Masahiro Tanaka, Ubaldo Jimenez, Ervin Santana?|
(Jim from STL)
|They could go after any of those guys, but considering they already have a tremendous amount of cash going to Timmy, Bumgarner, and Cain, I'd expect they won't be dropping a ton of cash on the last two rotation spots. That money is probably better spent elsewhere. Like on a personal trainer for Panda. (Matthew Kory)|
|2013-10-11 14:00:00 (link to chat)||what is the chain of events that happens when a pitchers head trails his center of mass and can you guide me to a pitcher as an example?-Thanks!|
(lewish from WA)
|A trailing head is an indicator of poor balance, and the most common scenario is a "rock n' roll" pitcher who collapses the back side (legs and/or torso) before the rotational elements kick into gear. Ubaldo Jimenez is a blatant example of a pitcher with a trailing head. This is one of the issues inherent with the coaching method that says "stay over the rubber," because the end result is a pitcher who is imbalanced with a trailing head. (Doug Thorburn)|
|2013-08-12 14:00:00 (link to chat)||Of the games you have watched with Paul for the podcast, which ones have you enjoyed watching the most? Also, which ones have left you pulling your hair out?|
(Lucas Punkari from Airdrie, Alberta)
|Such an awesome question, Lucas! My favorite game of TINSTAAPP so far was actually one of the games from last episode (Ep 12): Jose Fernandez vs Ubaldo Jimenez. These guys offered one of the greatest contrasts that I can imagine: a rookie with the mechanics of a veteran vs the veteran with the mechanics of an uncoached amateur. Paul and I gush about Fernandez, and then just marvel at the ridiculous saloon-door stride of Ubaldo, which swings open and lands in a different spot on every pitch. That game was simultaneously the most enjoyable and the most frustrating to watch.
On the jukebox: Pink Floyd, "Comfortably Numb" (Doug Thorburn)
|2013-03-15 13:00:00 (link to chat)||Do you think Ubaldo Jimenez has a chance to rebound in '13?|
(Dave from Boston)
|not really. His velocity has been downward since 2007. PECOTA likes his chances a heckuva lot more than I do FWIW. He's one of those guys who will need to learn how to pitch with command and finesse. (Harry Pavlidis)|
|2013-02-27 20:00:00 (link to chat)||Is Lincecum a good bounce back candidate?|
(stewbies from Rochester, NY)
|It depends on what you want him to bounce back to. I can see him putting up a 4.00 ERA or something in that neighborhood but it's hard to expect him to be the Timmah who won back-to-back Cy Young awards. It wasn't talked about to the same degree, but Lincecum's velo drop in 2012 reminded me of Ubaldo Jimenez's in 2011. This isn't a bet I'm going to be making this year. (Mike Gianella)|
|2013-03-01 13:00:00 (link to chat)||Hi Doug, Thanks for doing the chat.
Any pointers you would give Ubaldo Jimenez on fixing his mechanics?|
(SaberTJ from Cleveland, OH)
|Oh boy, where to begin? His mechanics of devolved from his 2010 peak, with worse balance, posture, and torque. His timing is an absolute mess, and his saloon-door stride pattern is completely erratic. His signature might demand an open stride, but his inability to repeat his lower-body movements just unravels the rest of his kinetic chain. When fixing a pitcher, we always start at the beginning, so first I would address his balance, then his stride, followed by torque, and finally posture. He was never the model of mechanical efficiency, but Ubaldo is a long way from being what he once was.
On the jukebox: Beatles, "Eleanor Rigby" (Doug Thorburn)
|2012-07-11 12:00:00 (link to chat)||Im looking to buy Lincecum in any format. What should I be offering (if you were his owner)?|
(Ryan from Chino, CA)
|If you offered me Ubaldo Jimenez right now, I'd take it. (Jason Collette)|
|2012-05-09 13:00:00 (link to chat)||How hard is it for a pitching coach when you have a prospect like Trevor Bauer ? The guy has 9 pitches and his own philosophy on pitching.|
(19braves77 from Pensacola, FL)
|It probably depends on the pitching coach. A coach who's very hands on and likes to mold pitchers according to his own ideas of what mechanics should look like might hate having Bauer. A coach who's content to let pitchers who've had success keep doing their own thing as long as it's working would probably handle Bauer just fine. The question with Bauer is whether to mess with his success in an attempt to make him even better. As good as he is, he's had control problems, and he could stand to be much more efficient. Maybe a pitching coach could help him with that, but maybe tinkering with his approach to make him more efficient would make him less effective in other areas. I don't know what the right thing to do in his case is, which is why no one pays me to be a pitching coach.
By the way, speaking of pitching (I'm the best at segues), I asked resident mechanics expert Doug Thorburn last week to take a look at what's happened to Ubaldo Jimenez, and he's working on the article now. It sounds like he's found some interesting stuff, so I'm looking forward to reading it. Should be up on the site on Friday. (Ben Lindbergh)
|2012-03-29 13:00:00 (link to chat)||Peter Gammons reported that Ubaldo Jimenez was up to 96-97 mph in his last start. Do you think he can/will rebound and be an effective starter again?|
(Armin from Austria)
|I don't think we'll see the utter dominance of early 2010 again, but effective starter? Absolutely. (Kevin Goldstein)|
|2011-03-24 13:00:00 (link to chat)||Who's your pick for "first all-star Yankees fan demand a small-market team trade to them for a pile of sweatsocks and an Orange Julius"?|
(Ratcatcher from Narnia)
|Are we not counting Francisco Liriano? Because that already happened. Beyond that, "Dave Robertson for Ubaldo Jimenez. Who says no?!?!" (Emma Span)|
|2010-08-17 14:45:00 (link to chat)||Hey Eric, love the work you do. I noticed recently that part of Ubaldo Jimenez's success comes from consistently having a very low HR/FB rate (2010 will be the third straight such year). Do you believe this is a fluke, and that this will eventually catch up to Ubaldo, or do you believe there's some skill there that we just can't measure yet? Do you know of other similar pitchers that challenge SIERA's assumption that HR/FB is (mostly) random? Thanks!|
(Jeff P from NYC)
|Thanks Jeff. This is something Matt and I actively discuss, and right now I'm leaning toward the idea that there is something there. For instance, Cliff Lee over the last three seasons has played for Cleveland, Philadelphia, Seattle and Texas, four very different stadiums. His HR/FB numbers have been as follows: 08-Cle: 5.1, 09-Cle: 5.8, 09-Phi: 8.0, 10-Sea: 4.0, 10-Tex:4.9. Even when on the Phillies the rate was less than the league averages, and they have been drastically less than the averages for three years running now. There is clearly something he is doing that is preventing home runs. What that is, I'm not positive, but he is a very good example due to playing for so many different teams the last few years. Now, that doesn't invalidate SIERA at all, but rather it's the sort of thing that Matt and I will be looking to somehow incorporate moving forward. (Eric Seidman)|
|2010-07-22 13:00:00 (link to chat)||For years, people have discredited hitters who hit at Coors field when it comes for MVP races. So, why doesn't Ubaldo Jimenez get extra credit for the Cy Young race for pitching half his games at Coors?|
(Hansford from Fort Worth)
|I don't think Ubaldo Jimenez needs any extra help in the Cy Young race this year. His Davenport Translated ERA this season is 2.61, which is mighty good. Of course, his SIERA is a much more pedestrian 3.55, but that doesn't apply park factors to the peripherals. (Tommy Bennett)|
|2010-05-05 13:00:00 (link to chat)||Marc, do you have any concerns about Ubaldo Jimenez holding up over the course of the season given the high pitch counts that Jim Tracy has been letting him run up? Is he someone to consider shipping out if you can get back a Verlander-type return?|
(Aaron from YYZ)
|Wasn't there a study a few years ago that said that 180 innings at Coors felt like 200 innings elsewhere because of the way the air was? I'm not *concerned* I guess, but if you can get someone of equal value or better for Ubaldo, it may be worth exploring. I'm much more of a softy when it comes to pitch counts (as long as their mechanics aren't changing at 110 or 120 pitches, I'm not that broken up about it) but the consistent chase of 120-130 or so for Ubaldo this early is a bit disconcerting.
Could it be possible that Jim Tracy didn't ride down from the heavens on a unicorn to manage the Rockies, and that he actually just took control of a really great collection of talent that started playing well like it should have? (Marc Normandin)
|2010-04-27 13:00:00 (link to chat)||How well does Ubaldo Jimenez match up with Mr. Strasburg?|
(andrew from Toronto)
|The first thing to note is that jimenez is five years older, and was nowhere near as good (when he was 21) as Strasburg is now. Strasburg looks to throw 2-3mph harder (reaching, say, 100 rather than 98, whi9ch is still plenty fast) and already has control that Ubaldo did not develop until the last year or so. Jimenez was a highly regarded prospect and has done the right things since, hitting the most optimistic points on his curve. His advantage over Strasburg is that we know he can throw 200 innings and come back for more - we don't know that about Stephen yet. (Clay Davenport)|
|2009-10-13 14:00:00 (link to chat)||This question got kicked 'round a bit in the recent playoff round table, but I'd love to hear your answer. How much do you trust Ubaldo Jimenez's breakout year? How would he rank as a long-term commodity compared to younger, higher profile arms like B. Anderson, Hanson, Porcello, and the like? |
(Jim Clancy from Exhibition Stadium)
|I'm optimistic abou Jimenez, even with the environment counting against his chances. (The club gets it as far as fielding a quality defense, so he'll have that going for him.) While I think everyone prefers Hanson over everybody at this point, I think Jimenez deserves consideration. As impressive as Porcello's late performance was, I guess I want to see the strikeout rate come up a bit before I go wild for him. (Christina Kahrl)|
|2009-10-08 14:00:00 (link to chat)||In your analysis of the Phillies/Rockies series, you mentioned how the Phils Offense was not well suited to hit against the Rockies D. But how about the opposite match-up? The Rockies only played .500 ball against lefties this year and the Phils can throw three lefties at them (four games, maybe five depending on the schedule). Isn't this an advantage for Philly?
Also, can you do anything about the annoying Outback commercial that keeps covering up the screen?|
(jschmeagol from college park, md)
|No, I can't, but I've complained about it myself. It's absurd.
I felt the two teams' rotations were fairly even, which may have been overrating Ubaldo Jimenez against this particular lineup. I also didn't think Jim Tracy would play Brad Hawpe over Ryan Spilborghs. Not that that was the only factor, but man, can you leave Spilborghs and Chris Iannetta on your bench if you're serious about beating a lefty?
Anyway, with the Rockies having lost the Jimenez start and not having de la Rosa, their situation isn't that great. (Joe Sheehan)
|2009-09-24 14:00:00 (link to chat)||Buchholz or Ubaldo Jimenez over their careers?|
(Ethan from Berkshire County)
|Buchholz. The fact that we even have to ask is a testament to Jimenez and what he's done. (Joe Sheehan)|
|2009-08-25 13:00:00 (link to chat)||If Ubaldo Jimenez can get to 17 wins would you give him a chance at the Cy Young?|
(Spilly from Denver, CO)
|If in doing so he went Hershiser on the league, maybe. (Joe Sheehan)|
|2009-04-10 16:30:00 (link to chat)||Hey Christina, any thoughts on Ubaldo Jimenez and Franklin Morales so far this year? They've thrown a combined 13IP 8H 1ER 4BB 1HR 14K.
Sample size + control problems. But those K numbers look pretty good. |
(Jason from Devner)
|You don't need me or even Kevin to tell you those guys are talented; it's just a good bit of news for the Rox that in the year Jeff Francis is out, those two might be squared away to join Aaron Cook and give the team a trio they can project playing key roles years into the future. (Christina Kahrl)|
|2009-02-03 13:00:00 (link to chat)||Are you as annoyed as I am by the annual flurry of articles that go something like this, "So and so really hit the weights in the offseason and is poised for a big year" nonsense? In any case, who are your breakout picks in the N.L.?|
(jromero from Seattle)
|I wouldn't say "annoyed," but I do tend to ignore them as a group. Everyone has a story in March.
NL breakouts: Lastings Milledge, James Loney, maybe Ubaldo Jimenez. (Joe Sheehan)
|2008-01-28 13:00:00 (link to chat)||how good can Ubaldo Jimenez be in 08?|
(tycobb from ga)
|Really good, because the arm strength is there and a good second half is going to leave him with the requisite amount of confidence. But for Ubaldo, everything is going to be about fastball command. In analyzing Franklin Morales, Kevin Goldstein talked about Morales realizing he's better 93-95 than 96-98, a lesson I'm not sure Ubaldo has yet grasped. (Bryan Smith)|
|2009-10-12 15:00:00||Phillies/Rockies Playoffs Roundtable||Ryan (Denver): Where do you guys think Ubaldo Jimenez ranks among NL starting pitchers?|
Maybe I'll answer this time . . . On pure STUFF ALONE he really does rank with anyone out there. More consistent command and some refinements with his off-speed pitches will have him firmly in the discussion on pure performance as well.
My biggest question is the arm holding up. The Rockies have done wonders with cleaning up his mechanics without taking away his velo or tilt, but it's still not exactly easy for him. (Kevin Goldstein)
|2009-10-12 15:00:00||Phillies/Rockies Playoffs Roundtable||Ryan (Denver): Where do you guys think Ubaldo Jimenez ranks among NL starting pitchers? (Kevin Goldstein)|
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