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Career Summary
Years PA AVG OBP SLG DRC+ WARP
17 6928 .277 .321 .434 101 27.6
Birth Date2-18-1981
Height6' 5"
Weight210 lbs
Age43 years, 2 months, 7 days
BatsR
ThrowsR
WARP Summary

MLB Statistics

YEAR TEAM AGE G PA H 2B 3B HR BB SO HBP SB CS AVG OBP SLG DRC+ DRAA BRR FRAA BWARP
2004 TOR 23 111 460 122 24 7 1 31 84 2 15 3 .286 .338 .383 81 -10.3 1.8 13.9 1.4
2005 TOR 24 146 519 126 23 6 10 28 101 5 14 9 .262 .306 .397 84 -9.9 2.1 6.3 0.8
2006 TOR 25 128 498 136 33 6 17 35 89 3 15 6 .302 .349 .516 111 9.7 0.0 8.2 2.7
2007 TOR 26 161 711 191 43 7 24 55 103 6 17 4 .297 .354 .498 125 25.7 0.1 3.3 4.3
2008 TOR 27 155 686 185 47 8 15 44 112 2 32 8 .291 .337 .461 106 6.9 2.6 15.7 4.1
2009 CHA 28 41 154 29 6 0 3 6 29 0 5 2 .199 .229 .301 88 -1.8 -0.8 -1.9 0.0
2009 TOR 28 108 479 115 25 2 14 31 78 6 19 3 .264 .317 .427 89 -5.0 -1.3 8.2 1.1
2010 CHA 29 147 617 161 29 3 21 38 93 7 34 14 .284 .334 .457 107 6.0 0.0 7.9 3.4
2011 CHA 30 145 570 122 22 2 13 27 68 2 11 6 .227 .265 .348 78 -13.7 2.1 0.3 0.6
2012 CHA 31 157 640 184 37 8 25 26 92 4 23 6 .304 .334 .516 124 17.9 5.8 13.9 5.1
2013 CHA 32 109 465 119 22 2 12 32 78 1 26 6 .277 .328 .421 109 5.3 3.0 5.9 2.4
2013 TEX 32 47 197 52 11 2 6 9 30 1 16 1 .280 .315 .457 111 2.6 2.1 1.2 1.0
2014 TEX 33 131 521 138 30 8 4 23 93 1 17 9 .280 .311 .398 96 -2.3 -2.5 1.3 0.5
2015 KCA 34 105 411 98 22 2 4 15 67 5 9 0 .255 .287 .353 82 -7.1 0.9 1.1 0.2
Career1691692817783746316940011174525377.277.321.43410124.115.985.127.6

Statistics for All Levels

'opp' stats - Quality of opponents faced - have been moved and are available only as OPP_QUAL in the Statistics reports now.
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YEAR Team Lg LG G PA oppAVG oppOBP oppSLG BABIP BPF BRAA repLVL POS_ADJ DRC+ DRC+ SD FRAA BRR DRAA BWARP
1999 MED Rk PIO 0 252 .000 .000 .000 .310 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2000 HAG A SAL 0 77 .000 .000 .000 .283 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2000 QUE A- NYP 0 221 .000 .000 .000 .295 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2001 CWV A SAL 130 526 .000 .000 .000 .294 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2002 DUN A+ FSL 111 492 .000 .000 .000 .341 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2003 NHV AA EAS 127 563 .000 .000 .000 .406 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2004 TOR MLB AL 111 460 .263 .330 .423 .355 106 -12.7 13.7 -4.9 81 7 13.9 1.8 -10.3 1.4
2004 SYR AAA INT 46 195 .000 .000 .000 .296 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2005 TOR MLB AL 146 519 .267 .332 .423 .309 104 -9.3 14.9 -5.2 84 8 6.3 2.1 -9.9 0.8
2006 TOR MLB AL 128 498 .272 .337 .430 .336 107 11.6 15.0 -5.2 111 9 8.2 0.0 9.7 2.7
2006 SYR AAA INT 3 11 .259 .334 .414 .429 114 0.1 0.3 -0.2 90 0 -0.1 0.0 -0.1 0.0
2007 TOR MLB AL 161 711 .271 .337 .426 .319 95 33.6 21.1 -6.7 125 8 3.3 0.1 25.7 4.3
2008 TOR MLB AL 155 686 .265 .331 .419 .331 98 15.1 19.8 -3.9 106 10 15.7 2.6 6.9 4.1
2009 CHA MLB AL 41 154 .262 .332 .410 .226 105 -12.6 4.4 0 88 9 -1.9 -0.8 -1.8 0.0
2009 TOR MLB AL 108 479 .263 .330 .419 .289 104 -1.2 13.8 -4.7 89 9 8.2 -1.3 -5.0 1.1
2010 CHA MLB AL 147 617 .261 .325 .407 .306 112 0.7 17.0 1.3 107 8 7.9 0.0 6.0 3.4
2011 CHA MLB AL 145 570 .259 .320 .405 .237 104 -25 15.4 1.4 78 10 0.3 2.1 -13.7 0.6
2012 CHA MLB AL 157 640 .260 .321 .417 .323 105 21 17.5 -6.5 124 10 13.9 5.8 17.9 5.1
2013 CHA MLB AL 109 465 .256 .317 .401 .314 99 3.5 12.2 -4.5 109 8 5.9 3.0 5.3 2.4
2013 TEX MLB AL 47 197 .253 .313 .392 .305 99 3.2 5.2 -1.9 111 8 1.2 2.1 2.6 1.0
2013 PUR int WBC 7 27 .000 .000 .000 .158 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2014 TEX MLB AL 131 521 .251 .311 .384 .335 100 -1.5 13.4 -5.4 96 8 1.3 -2.5 -2.3 0.5
2015 KCA MLB AL 105 411 .253 .311 .405 .294 103 -12.5 11.1 -4.1 82 8 1.1 0.9 -7.1 0.2
2015 OMA AAA PCL 4 17 .267 .327 .416 .167 102 -1 0.5 -0.2 50 0 0.0 -0.2 -1.1 -0.1

Statistics For All Levels

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Year Team lvl LG PA AB R H 2B 3B HR TB RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG ISO SF SH
1999 MED Rk PIO 252 234 35 63 7 3 0 76 13 17 31 8 4 .269 .321 .325 .056 0 0
2000 HAG A SAL 77 74 5 17 3 1 0 22 5 2 14 2 3 .230 .260 .297 .068 0 0
2000 QUE A- NYP 221 206 22 55 9 2 1 71 25 11 22 5 5 .267 .317 .345 .078 0 0
2001 CWV A SAL 526 480 40 126 20 9 2 170 58 25 59 22 14 .263 .303 .354 .092 3 3
2002 DUN A+ FSL 492 456 60 139 22 8 3 186 61 27 55 14 8 .305 .347 .408 .103 1 1
2003 NHV AA EAS 563 514 86 181 32 11 11 268 82 39 85 11 3 .352 .404 .521 .169 1 1
2004 SYR AAA INT 195 185 14 48 10 1 3 69 23 9 30 2 1 .259 .294 .373 .114 0 0
2004 TOR MLB AL 460 426 55 122 24 7 1 163 28 31 84 15 3 .286 .338 .383 .096 0 1
2005 TOR MLB AL 519 481 71 126 23 6 10 191 59 28 101 14 9 .262 .306 .397 .135 5 0
2006 SYR AAA INT 11 10 0 3 1 0 0 4 1 1 3 0 0 .300 .364 .400 .100 0 0
2006 TOR MLB AL 498 450 68 136 33 6 17 232 82 35 89 15 6 .302 .349 .516 .213 10 0
2007 TOR MLB AL 711 643 114 191 43 7 24 320 85 55 103 17 4 .297 .354 .498 .201 7 0
2008 TOR MLB AL 686 635 91 185 47 8 15 293 79 44 112 32 8 .291 .337 .461 .170 5 0
2009 TOR MLB AL 479 436 52 115 25 2 14 186 62 31 78 19 3 .264 .317 .427 .163 6 0
2009 CHA MLB AL 154 146 11 29 6 0 3 44 9 6 29 5 2 .199 .229 .301 .103 1 1
2010 CHA MLB AL 617 567 89 161 29 3 21 259 88 38 93 34 14 .284 .334 .457 .173 5 0
2011 CHA MLB AL 570 537 64 122 22 2 13 187 44 27 68 11 6 .227 .265 .348 .121 4 0
2012 CHA MLB AL 640 605 93 184 37 8 25 312 91 26 92 23 6 .304 .334 .516 .212 5 0
2013 CHA MLB AL 465 430 57 119 22 2 12 181 55 32 78 26 6 .277 .328 .421 .144 1 0
2013 TEX MLB AL 197 186 26 52 11 2 6 85 26 9 30 16 1 .280 .315 .457 .177 1 0
2013 PUR int WBC 27 22 6 3 0 0 0 3 0 2 3 1 1 .136 .296 .136 .000 0 0
2014 TEX MLB AL 521 492 54 138 30 8 4 196 54 23 93 17 9 .280 .311 .398 .118 5
2015 KCA MLB AL 411 385 40 98 22 2 4 136 32 15 67 9 0 .255 .287 .353 .099 6 0
2015 OMA AAA PCL 17 17 2 3 1 0 1 7 2 0 4 0 0 .176 .176 .412 .235 0 0

Plate Discipline

YEAR Pits Zone% Swing% Contact% Z-Swing% O-Swing% Z-Contact% O-Contact% SwStr% CSAA
2008 2428 0.5136 0.4621 0.8200 0.6279 0.2870 0.9004 0.6342 0.1800 0.0062
2009 2360 0.4941 0.4483 0.8110 0.6115 0.2889 0.8962 0.6348 0.1890 0.0145
2010 2208 0.4905 0.4407 0.8314 0.5937 0.2933 0.9082 0.6818 0.1686 0.0084
2011 1973 0.5317 0.4567 0.8502 0.5796 0.3171 0.9243 0.6962 0.1498 0.0051
2012 2254 0.5253 0.4650 0.8540 0.6115 0.3028 0.9213 0.7037 0.1460 0.0120
2013 2484 0.5246 0.4320 0.8388 0.5787 0.2701 0.9204 0.6458 0.1612 -0.0046
2014 2030 0.5123 0.4498 0.8193 0.6096 0.2818 0.9085 0.6165 0.1807 -0.0014
2015 1528 0.5085 0.4719 0.8197 0.6409 0.2969 0.9116 0.6143 0.1803 -0.0058
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Injury History  —  No longer being updated

Last Update: 12/31/2014 23:59 ET

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
2014-09-05 2014-09-29 DTD 24 22 Right Thumb Infection and Contusion -
2014-08-19 2014-08-20 DTD 1 1 Right Thumb Contusion -
2014-08-11 2014-08-12 DTD 1 1 Right Ankle Soreness -
2014-07-31 2014-08-01 DTD 1 0 Left Thigh Contusion HBP -
2014-07-20 2014-07-23 DTD 3 3 Right Ankle Sprain -
2014-03-05 2014-03-13 Camp 8 0 Right Abdomen Strain Oblique - -
2014-02-22 2014-02-28 Camp 6 0 Left Soreness Big Toe - -
2013-07-31 2013-07-31 DTD 0 0 Left Foot Contusion - -
2013-03-23 2013-03-29 Camp 6 0 - Low Back Tightness - -
2012-08-08 2012-08-10 DTD 2 1 - Low Back Stiffness - -
2012-03-29 2012-03-30 Camp 1 0 - Lower Leg Strain Achilles Tendon - -
2011-08-26 2011-08-26 DTD 0 0 Right Hand Contusion - -
2011-04-20 2011-04-20 DTD 0 0 Arthritis Big Toe -
2010-09-28 2010-10-04 DTD 6 6 Left Knee Contusion HBP -
2010-03-17 2010-03-21 Camp 4 0 Left Thigh Strain Quadriceps -
2010-03-03 2010-03-05 Camp 2 0 Right Shoulder Soreness -
2008-06-11 2008-06-13 DTD 2 1 Low Back Soreness -
2006-09-12 2006-09-13 DTD 1 1 Right Hand Recovery From Contusion Bone From Last Week -
2006-09-10 2006-09-11 DTD 1 1 Right Hand Contusion Bone From Last Week -
2006-06-28 2006-07-28 15-DL 30 26 Left Lower Leg Infection Staph -
2005-03-03 2005-03-23 Camp 20 0 Right Shoulder Inflammation -

Compensation

Year Team Salary
2015 KCA $9,500,000
2014 TEX $13,500,000
2013 CHA $13,000,000
2012 CHA $12,500,000
2011 CHA $12,500,000
2010 CHA $10,200,000
2009 TOR $6,400,000
2008 TOR $4,835,000
2007 TOR $2,535,000
2006 TOR $354,000
2005 TOR $331,000
YearsDescriptionSalary
11 yrPrevious$85,655,000
11 yrTotal$85,655,000

 

Service TimeAgentContract Status
11 y 130 dScott Boras1 year/$11M (2015), 2016 option

Details
  • 1 year/$11M (2015), plus 2016 mutual option. Signed by Kansas City as a free agent 12/15/14. 15:$9.5M, 16:$12.5M mutual option, $1.5M buyout. Kansas City declined 2016 option 11/4/15.
  • 7 years/$69.835M (2008-14), plus 2015 club option. Signed extension with Toronto 4/4/08, replacing 1-year contract signed 2/5/08 while retaining $3.5M signing bonus. 08:$0.735M, 09:$5.9M, 10:$9.7M, 11:$12M, 12:$12M, 13:$12.5M, 14:$12.5M, 15:$13.5M club option, $1M buyout. Full no-trade clause 2009-10. Limited no-trade protection from 2011 through end of contract (may block trades to 6 clubs: Arizona, Colorado, Houston, Kansas City, NY Yankees, Oakland). If traded between beginning of 2011 season and Spring Training 2014, future salaries increase by $0.5M each (met for 2014). If traded during 2014 season, 2015 option increases to $14M ($2M buyout). Claimed by Chicago White Sox off waivers from Toronto 8/10/09. Acquired by Texas in trade from Chicago White Sox 8/9/13. (White Sox pay Rangers $1M in the deal.) Texas declined 2015 option 10/31/14.
  • Extension replaced 1 year/$4.835M deal for 2008. Signed by Toronto 2/5/08 (avoided arbitration, $5.65M-$4.535M). $3.5M signing bonus. 08:$1.335M.
  • 1 year/$2.535M (2007). Re-signed by Toronto 2/07 ($3.1M-$2M).
  • 1 year/$0.354M (2006). Re-signed by Toronto 2/06.
  • 1 year/$0.331M (2005). Re-signed by Toronto 3/05.
  • 1 year (2004). Re-signed by Toronto 2/04. Optioned to Triple-A 3/04. Recalled 5/04.
  • 1 year (2003). Contract purchased by Toronto 11/02. Re-signed by Toronto 3/03.
  • Drafted by Toronto 1999 (1-19) (Guaynabo HS, Puerto Rico). $0.845M signing bonus.

2019 Preseason Forecast

Last Update: 1/27/2017 12:35 ET

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BP Chats

DateQuestionAnswer
2016-03-28 13:00:00 (link to chat)Will Bubba Starling ever figure it out or will he be tantalizing and frustrating to watch?
(Kevin from KC)
Eh...honestly, I'm going to lean towards the ladder, with a best-case ceiling of Alex Rios.

I think he's an example of what happens in this neo-prospect age. Amateurs are oftentimes given billings that aren't fair for them to try and live up to. Starling was great, yes, but Starling also was a home-state kid who had the football/baseball intrigue. He also goes by Bubba, so, that's probably a big thing in Kansas.

Inn actuality, though, a scout would tell you that despite the hype, Bubbsy Starling was really just a 'type' of player. The same 'type' of player that say, Monte Harrison is, another guy that I'm asked about frequently. These 'types' of players are freak athletes that have all the raw power and supplementary tools in the world, but ultimately it falls down to how much they're able to bring out of the hit tool. Even if they figure it out (more or less), they often remain very slump-prone and streaky (again, Alex Rios). One factor is Starling's size. He's 6'5--a big dude. How many batting champs have that type of size? And if they do, how many hit for power? It can be hard to consistently generate hard game contact and control longer levers to bring about consistent batting average.

I'm not going to say he's a Bret Eibner in KC's system. But I don't think he's going to be the super-athlete face of the franchise, either. I'll hold to my Alex Rios best case.

That said, it's risky to fully bet against this type of athlete and raw toolset. These guys can really prove you wrong, and make unforeseen adjustments right when you're starting to pat yourself on the back as a scout. Whoops. (Adam McInturff)
2015-04-06 20:15:00 (link to chat)How bout this...Could you see Zimmer ending up with a fantasy profile similar to Alex Rios? I know their swings don't match, but it seems like a really good strong hitter with a line drive stroke could just be really difficult to project as far as power goes. It seems like a lot of it could end up luck, but he could have his year where he drops 20-25, and then his years when he sits around 12-15.
(username49 from Ohio)
Sure, but that's power profile, more than fantasy profile. I'd be shocked if Zimmer has a 40 steal season on his resume. (Craig Goldstein)
2014-03-14 09:00:00 (link to chat)Hi Mike, How much extra value do you give to Jose Abreu and Tanaka in a league where there get four years of keepability as opposed to two for all other players in the draft? Would you draft them ahead of players like Alex Rios or Hunter Pence? Thanks!
(Aaron from Long Beach)
I'd add a slight amount of value, but given that you'll probably be getting both at price without a lot of upside, this doesn't seem like a huge tactical advantage to me. I'd stick with Rios/Pence over Abreu/Tanaka. (Mike Gianella)
2014-02-26 19:00:00 (link to chat)Power & speed combination: who are your top five AL picks this season?
(John from CT)
Mike Trout
Jason Kipnis
Alex Rios
Coco Crisp
Shanf Victorian (Mauricio Rubio)
2013-12-10 18:00:00 (link to chat)Dynasty 10 keeper in both MLB level and MILB level. I can keep Wong for free as one of my 10 MILB but can also probably trade Wong straight up for Profar (no longer MILB eligible) but would have to use a MLB keeper spot on him. Would probably cost me Rios or Ryu. I have no 2nd baseman (not keeping Utley) going into the year. Is the keeper spot worth the trade for 2014? Who do you foresee having a quicker/bigger impact Wong or Profar?
(Rich from St. Louis)
Hi Rich.

With Ian Kinsler out of the way, Jurickson Profar should have a much bigger fantasy impact than Kolten Wong in 2014. I could be wrong about Wong ( the way I was off base about Matt Carpenter) but I see Wong as more of a steady performer and not as a player with significant upside like Profar. Your decision is kind of tough, though, because you would have to give up either Alex Rios or Ryu. In this case, I might simply keep Wong since you're not surrendering the MLB slot and can keep both Wong and Rios or Wong and Ryu. It's a close call for me. I think I'd make the deal but I can see why you wouldn't either. (Mike Gianella)
2013-07-16 13:00:00 (link to chat)Hey Sam. Love the podcast. Got a trade offer in my league (no keeper) Ryan Braun and Jarrod Parker for Matt Moore and Alex Rios. Oh, Gucci shades up on my braids when I Escalade. With the recent reports of biogenesis cases not being heard until later should I pull the trigger?
(Frank from Philly)
Oh, please. Catch me lane switching with the paint dripping? Turn your neck and your dame missing. But you already knew I was going to say that.

Slightly serious answer: I would almost turn down every trade offer without even looking at it. These managers hate you and want to hurt you. Don't play their stupid game. Don't even look at the offer. Just punch back with a counteroffer on your own terms. (Sam Miller)
2013-05-24 14:00:00 (link to chat)In a 14-team mixed 6x6 with OPS and 4 keepers I have been offered Pujols straight up for Alex Rios. I want to accept but every look at the numbers and trends seems to indicate Rios emerging and Pujols declining. Am I over thinking it by not accepting?
(docg16 from Latham, NY)
You are overthinking it. It might not work out, but you are overthinking. (Sam Miller)
2013-02-14 13:00:00 (link to chat)We keep $75/7 players max. I already have $10 kept with Morneau and dead weight. I'm going to keep Kipnis (12) and Castro (21), so that's 43. With the remaining, I have options - Dunn (18), Adam Jones (17), Cespedes (15), Scherzer (15) and someone's offering Trumbo for $1. I can also try to trade for VMart who would be 4, but I'm sure I'd have to give up a decent player. One option is Dunn & Cespedes and sell off an Alex Rios for $1, which I've been offered. That the best way to go, or would a combo of the other players work out better?
(frankbama from Westminster, MD)
Cespedes & AJones is the way to go for me. Not too hot on Trumbo even at a buck. Love the across-the-board production for Ces & Jones. (Paul Sporer)
2013-01-14 14:00:00 (link to chat)Alex Rios - good or bad in 2013?
(Justin from Chicago, IL)
I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that Rios will break the cycle of alternating awful and excellent seasons. Maybe he'll just be kind of okay! PECOTA projects him to be worth about two WARP, which would essentially make him an average player. Let's go with that. (Ben Lindbergh)
2012-02-20 13:00:00 (link to chat)If Thornton comes up with the yips again this spring, does CHW go straight to Addison Reed or will Jesse Crain get a shot?
(PepeShady from StPaul)
I thought it was reasonably well established that what Thornton went through last year wasn't "the yips" but an unsuccessful attempt to establish his changeup.

If I'm a team in rebuilding mode, as the Sox should be (but can't truly be given the $82 million owed to Alex Rios and Adam Dunn), I'd probably churn closers if possible, as the Sox did by flipping Sergio Santos. Get the increasingly expensive Thornton to about 20 saves and flip him, then turn to Crain and do the same. By then, Reed will have more than gotten his feet wet in the majors and will be well-prepared to do the job. (Jay Jaffe)
2012-02-14 13:00:00 (link to chat)Alex Rios have a 20-20 season in him?
(Long Tim from Alaska)
In him, sure. The most likely scenario? No. He's been losing power recently, not hitting the ball nearly as far as he used to, and his HR power was strictly pull this past year. (Derek Carty)
2011-03-08 14:00:00 (link to chat)Brent Morel or Mark Teahan? Also who do you think ends up as fourth OF for White Sox? I am thinking Lastings Milledge might be a choice.
(bfitzge3 from Upstate NY)
Teahen will likely share time between 3B, RF (whenever Quentin is hurt) and DH, but he's a pretty ordinary player, so Morel should get a fair shot to win the 3B job outright. As far as Milledge goes, I've been a big fan for a long time, and I'm not convinced he can't do a reasonable Alex Rios impression one of these days, at least offensively. I mean that as a compliment... in other words, he'd be an excellent fourth OF. (Cory Schwartz)
2009-12-15 14:00:00 (link to chat)Alex Rios and now Juan Pierre? Who's advising the White Sox, Neel Kashkari?
(matuszek from Baltimore)
Chuck Tanner? Steve Boros? It's kooky, but then we're in a situation where we're debating the merits of Juan Pierre at $5 million plus versus a non-answer like Podzilla for under $2 million. Picking the former's the better answer if you start with the assumption neither's an offensive asset, since Podsednik's not a CF any more, but for that much? Why not check out Coco Crisp or Endy Chavez? (Christina Kahrl)
2009-11-19 13:00:00 (link to chat)What are your thoughts on Alex Rios for 2010?
(MickeyRivers from Philadelphia)
Plus defensive center fielder who'll hit .275 with some power and not enough walks. He's more or less comparable to Aaron Rowand, I think.

And if it were my team, I'd STILL move Ramirez to CF. Grrr. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-09-21 14:00:00 (link to chat)Do you think the Cubs will release Bradley, or find a trade partner? [As a Giants fan, may I present Aaron Rowand?]
(Rob from Oakland)
I think they'll try to trade him for somebody else's big contract headache, but that the likelihood isn't terribly high that they'll be able to find a match. Hendry has to know that his move to suspend Bradley opens up at least better-than-even probability that he'll be sinking the cost of some large fraction of the remaining $21 million on his deal.

Maybe they can swap him for Alex Rios, who's none too popular on the South Side. (Jay Jaffe)
2009-08-13 13:00:00 (link to chat)Which Hitchcock? Alex Rios's contract was the largest to ever go through a waiver claim, but I wonder how much it could compare to the selling off of players (most famously Ruth, but also the Connie Mack tear-downs) during periods of economic instability between the wars? Are those precedents in some way for what we saw this week?
(Asinwreck from Chicago, IL)
All of the Hitchcock, actually. I have most of his catalog ripped to my computer and just clicked "play all." The current tune is "The Man With the Light Bulb Head," so I guess we're on "Fegmania!" Your parallels to the Rios sale are correct in part, but slightly different in that Frazee and Mack were saying, "These are really good players, worth the money, and I regret parting with them, but I just can't afford to pay them right now." The Rios sale was Ricciardi saying, "This guy ISN'T worth the money, I just thought he was at one point, so please take him away from me." (Steven Goldman)
2009-07-13 14:00:00 (link to chat)You're JP Ricciardi. Chris Davis, Neftali Feliz, Max Ramirez/Salatamalacchia, throw-in B prospect, and Marlon Byrd for Alex Rios and Halladay.
(Craig from Michigan)
Not enough. That's Feliz and a bunch of guys who've failed. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-02-11 14:00:00 (link to chat)Do you think Carlos Gomez becomes that Alex Rios or Carlos Beltran type of player this year. You talked about Gomez in 2007 on a chat?
(mwashuc06 from Utica,NY)
Yeah, I think Gomez is very talented. He's a wild stallion at this point but he'll learn under a guy like Ron Gardenhire and that Twins' coaching staff. Gomez is going to be very very good. (John Perrotto)
2008-06-20 13:30:00 (link to chat)Better lifetime keeper for next year and beyond (points based league)...Alex Rios, Matt kemp or Mad Max Scherzer Thanks
(Mike from Westbury, N.Y.)
Matt Kemp, then Scherzer, then Rios. I really like Matt Kemp. He's got a 15% shot of being Vladimir Guerrero. (Joe Sheehan)
2008-04-25 15:00:00 (link to chat)What are the odds that it turns out that Frank Thomas is really cooked, and JP is given a bit of credit for rectifying an error of yesteryear, as opposed to pulling a Colleti and making damn-well sure that last year's mistake remains on this year's books AND in this year's starting lineup? In a related question, what are the odds that I am just a mildly delusional, less mildly paranoic, Canadian Jays hoper?
(rawagman from Work, TO)
Because of his past history and his failure to build the Jays, I'm rarely inclined to give J.P. Ricciardi the benefit of the doubt. He's had seven years to try to put the Jays in a position to overtake the Yankees and/or Red Sox, and while he's developed a pretty decent pitching staff, he's placed some pretty big long-term bets on a pair of outfielders who really aren't very special in Vernon Wells and Alex Rios.

As for Thomas, yes, it's possible he really is done, but 60 PA is in no way an adequate sample to judge that given Thomas' track record of hitting his way out of recent slow starts. Look, the real motivating factor wasn't his slump, it was the vesting option. Ricciardi realized he didn't want to pay it, and that's not entirely stupid, but he'd have done better to play this one down the middle and not try to disguise his motives. As it is, he's just given those of us who enjoy watching him do his Mark Penn act more ammunition. (Jay Jaffe)
2008-05-01 13:00:00 (link to chat)Doesn't Alex Rios have to figure into the conversation as the heir apparent to Vlad? Seems to be more patient this year and has improved his power every year as a regular and plays a pretty good RF with an above average arm.
(Taylor from Toronto)
I'll take Markakis for the extra OBP. Both are plus right fielders, so Rios' defensive edge is smaller than it is on the field. It's a good debate, but when in doubt, I'll lean towards the OBP guy. (Joe Sheehan)
2008-03-05 13:00:00 (link to chat)Who will have a better year, Mauer or Martin? How good will Alex Rios be? (a 6'6 OF who can steal 20 can't have too many comparables...)
(Jimmy Ballgame from San Diego)
Russell Martin; you've got a solid line, you know the Dodgers will push him to play a ton of games, and he steals bases. Mauer's power is going to dip according to PECOTA, and that Twins lineup is awful.

I'm still not on speaking terms with PECOTA after seeing the projection it spit out for him this year. Let's revise RF right now and slot him in behind Hermida and ahead of the Kemp/Milledge pair where playing time might be an issue. What do you guys think, should we bump Abreu or Francouer to #11? (Marc Normandin)


BP Roundtables

DateRoundtable NameComment
2010-04-05 09:30:00Season Opener RoundtableI was just musing to myself about how Alex Rios' stance reminds me of Von Hayes--spread low, slightly knock-kneed, and will he, like Hayes, always just be that slightly less than expected but still-good player--and before I complete the thought, he's jacked a 407-foot shot over the center-field fence. (Christina Kahrl)
2010-04-05 09:30:00Season Opener RoundtableNext is from Matt from Chicago: "One question each about the Chicago teams... What are your thoughts on Alex Rios? Is he ever going to return to his form of a few years ago or are his best days already behind him? Given the Cubs weak bullpen as currently constituted, what are a few names you believe they should target and that might be available via trade over the coming few months? Happy Opening Day to all!!"

PECOTA sees Rios as a useful player this season, with a weighted mean WARP of 2.4. That doesn't mean his best days aren't behind him (it also doesn't mean they are), but you can be a very productive ballplayer while still not being as good as Rios was '06-'08.

As for the Cubs - there really are very few pitchers who are tremendous difference makers as relievers, and they are typically unavailable. Most of the time you're trying to catch lightning in a bottle, and the Cubs don't have a shortage of bottles. They have plenty of live arms around, so they're not lacking for depth. (Colin Wyers)
 

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