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|2013-11-22 14:00:00 (link to chat)||Hi Doug. Thanks for the chat. My favorite pitcher growing up was Luis Tiant - all 50 different versions of his delivery (at least it seemed that way to me). Have you ever looked at his mechanics? Was his delivery really all that different all the time, or just a lot of deceptive fluff thrown up around a basic set of mechanics? If they were all rwally different, how could he possibly that effective with that much inconsistency? Thanks.|
(jimbeau from left coast)
|I wish that I could say that I had seen every manipulation of the Tiant twist, but I have only seen a handful of clips. But I dig it. Funny thing is, that despite all the crazy funk, his delivery was actually really efficient. He flared the glove all crazy prior to starting his delivery, then looked at the plate before turning/twisting the complete opposite direction - but his momentum was movin on a straight line toward the plate during his twist and goofy leg kick. Then he would finish with friggin' awesome posture and a low/sidearm slot, occasionally tossing that butterfly curveball that invoked some hilarious swings. The key was that Tiant maintained the essential elements of athleticism - balance and momentum - with consistency, even as he added layers of funk to his delivery.
Thanks for invoking memories of El Tiante!
On the jukebox: AC/DC, "For Those About to Rock (We Salute You)" (Doug Thorburn)
|2013-03-26 13:00:00 (link to chat)||Will this year be the rookie season of the greatest Cuban born player of all time? Is that too high of a mountain to climb? Or only a mountain too high to accurately see over?|
(Paul from DC)
|Out of curiosity, I used the Baseball-Reference Play Index to find the top 5 Cuban-born players by WAR.
1. Rafael Palmeiro 66.1
2. Luis Tiant 61.8
3. Tony Perez 50.1
4. Bert Campaneris 49.2
5. Minnie Minoso 47.5
That seems really ambitious for Gerardo Concepcion.
Unless you meant Puig. Then it's still really ambitious. (Zachary Levine)
|2011-02-08 14:00:00 (link to chat)||Did you feel cheated when they said I had a funky delivery?
Or was that a compliment?|
(Dontrelle Willis from My Next Phase)
|Of course it's a compliment! Has anyone ever said that a player has a "funky delivery" with the implication that it made him LESS effective than his stuff would indicate?
I miss you, Dontrelle. I also miss Luis Tiant. (Ken Funck)
|2009-08-11 13:00:00 (link to chat)||Are you concerned about my workload or am I just a freak of nature?|
(Tim Lincecum from SF)
|I am concerned, but willing to consider that Lincecum might be a freak in absence of other evidence. I think flexibility and avoidance of even minor injuries is key. I'm not sure if he's Luis Tiant, but I like the comp. (What happened to Tiant in 1970, btw?) (Will Carroll)|
|2008-07-09 13:00:00 (link to chat)||How did Luis Tiant survive to have the career he did with his motion? I know he said something along the lines of "Delivery don't hurt my arm. No runs hurts my arm."|
(Henry from Lincoln Park)
|Here's the problem ... we remember the exceptions. He actually isn't that much of an exception ... I'd be curious to see some sort of era-adjustment on his innings and he never went over 200 until he was well past the nexus. Still, you remember Tiant but not Roger Moret or Dick Drago or Reggie Cleveland, guys that had much more typical patterns. I mean, I had to look those guys up. Did they have injury problems? How many pitchers had one good year, Mark Prior-style, during the time that Bob Feller calls the good ol' days? (Will Carroll)|
|2008-01-29 16:00:00 (link to chat)||What kind of production can we expect out of Pedro this year? Should I succumb to my man crush on Pedro or should I go with a safer guy like a Jeff Francis?|
(Shipoopi from Quohog, RI)
|Pedro is the new Luis Tiant - who hurt his arm, looked washed up, then resurrected his career with the Red Sox in the early 1970s. Pedro is older than Tiant, but like Tiant, while he may have lost his best stuff, he still knows how to pitch.
Like Tiant, he still has the ability to reach back and put something extra on the ball when he needs to, and he still has the urge to shove the bat up the hitters' ass - he's not giving in to nobody. The Amazing Pedro Experience is over, but Twilight Pedro is still going to be fun to watch. It's just going to be at 170 innings a year, not 210. Three hundred wins is not out of the question.
Inning for inning, Pedro will be better than Francis in 2008. Francis may have more overall value because he'll pitch more. (Rany Jazayerli)
|2009-10-16 13:00:00||NLCS Game Two/ALCS Game One||I keep thinking about Luis Tiant in the '75 World Series. He made three starts that October. Did well against the Reds the first time through, but the third time they had his number. I wonder if that's possible with Sabathia. (Steven Goldman)|