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2019 Preseason Forecast
Last Update: 1/27/2017 12:35 ET
|2013-01-09 13:00:00 (link to chat)||Thanks for doing these chats; I always appreciate insights from someone with front-office experience. Here's a Q pertaining to that experience. One of the arguments against Jack Morris as a Hall of Famer is that pitchers like him in his generation -- Dave Stieb, Frank Tanana, etc. -- got rejected by HoF voters very quickly. My question is: if guys like Stieb and Tanana were so good, why weren't the high rollers of the time bidding for their services when they hit free agency? Was there an unspoken rule (collusion?) against poaching other GMs' free agents? Or did they not understand talent evaluation very well? Something else?|
(Bill from New Mexico)
|I enjoy these chats, Bill from New Mexico. Thanks for your question. I saw Morris a ton during his career, as I worked in the AL my first 19 years in the game and was in the same league. Jack Morris was damn good, a winner, and a guy who grinned out wins and threw tons of innings. It is hard to evaluate each player's career in regards to roster decisions unles you're his agent, because that's the only person who really knows what was really out there. I certainly did not reject him as a HOF candidate, just felt he was REALLY good, not HOF. (Dan Evans)|
|2013-01-09 13:00:00 (link to chat)||Piggy-backing on Bill (New Mexico)'s question. Do you think Morris' late-career overlap with Clemens affect his balloting? Which if any of the following contemporary pitchers would you rank as "better" or "about equal to" Morris' career or peak performance? David Cone, Dennis Martinez, Saberhagen, Steib, Tanana, Bob Welch. Any others who stick out in your mind as "about equal?"
(BR from NYC)
|I feel that Dennis Martinez and Dave Stieb were better pitchers than Morris. Saberhagen would have been the best of the group were it not for injuries. (Dan Evans)|
|2011-01-05 13:00:00 (link to chat)||I always hated the argument that because Morris was the best starting pitcher of the '80's, he should go in. Using that logic, Freehan or McCarver would be in the Hall. Some eras are just weak at one position or another. No question; just wanted to make that observation.|
(GrinnellSteve from Grinnell)
|Good point, except I think that it's an incorrect premise to suggest that Morris was the best of the '80s. Dave Stieb had much higher WARP totals and I believe rates as the best pitcher of his era, yet he had less exposure in terms of the postseason. (Jay Jaffe)|
|2010-08-02 13:30:00 (link to chat)||Must admit that I was rooting hard for the Jays to trade Downs at the deadline, so that I no longer was confronted with the abomination of somebody else wearing Dave Stieb's uniform number (37). It's well past time for the Jays to retire the uniform number of their all-time leading pitcher. (Roy Halladay, you say? Never heard of him.) |
(rowenbell from IL)
|Ah, Rowen, you know how to hit a person smack in their nostalgia lobe, don't you. I do miss Dave Stieb, but there again, you're talking to somebody whose favorite pitcher of all time was Dave Stewart, and the A's can't retire his number, because they subsequently retired it for Rollie Fingers. (Christina Kahrl)|
|2009-10-13 14:00:00 (link to chat)||Your thoughts on Jair Jurrjens' future please.|
(Frug from UIUC)
|There were some who thought his 2008 season would be his best; obviously, he chose to disagree. He suffers from some of the biases against "short" right-handers, and he isn't throwing any harder. Still, he outperformed Lowe (and Kawakami). It seems crazy that even before this season, two of his top comps were Greg Maddux and Dave Stieb, two of the best "short" right-handers of the past generation. It also suggests how extraordinary Jurrjens already is, which is where all the doubt comes from. Could he really be that good? I don't think we can say yes or no with anything like the same sort of authority as we can with more typical players. I'd take my chances with him, certainly. (Christina Kahrl)|
|2008-12-23 14:00:00 (link to chat)||Merry Christmas Christina! What should the Blue Jays wish for under the Christmas tree?|
(jerjapan from Toronto)
|Three starting pitchers? Dave Stieb circa 1981 to step out of the wayback machine? Global warming to swallow up Boston and New York and St. Petersburg? Realignment? (Christina Kahrl)|
|2008-09-10 13:00:00 (link to chat)||With the Jays on the noggin, who's going to be the first player into the HoF with a Blue Jays cap?|
(Aaron from YYZ)
|Rickey Henderson? Fred McGriff? Lyle Overbay? Maybe a successful VC campaign for Dave Stieb?
That's a stumper. I honestly don't know the answer. (Jay Jaffe)
|2008-07-24 13:00:00 (link to chat)||Ms. Kahrl, my favourite baseball writer.
A few years ago we had slow-footed sluggers undervalued (and that was probably a long period, no?). Then, the As and others focused on the fragile and the defensively-gifted.
Care to guess what type of talent teams might be passing over too quickly now? Or has that window closed more or less?|
(Jim Clancy from Exhibition Stadium)
|Ah, Mr. Clancy... is it wrong that I liked Dave Stieb better? (Hey, it isn't like I'm picking Luis Leal.) Anyway, I'd suggest that it's still "bad apples," because look what citizenship grades have done to the market value of Milton Bradley or Barry Bonds. Or Shawn Chacon. (Christina Kahrl)|
No BP Roundtables have mentioned this guy.