Bobby Grich 2B |
Years | PA | AVG | OBP | SLG | DRC+ | WARP |
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17 | 8220 | .266 | .371 | .424 | 124 | 53.1 |
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YEAR | TEAM | AGE | G | PA | H | 2B | 3B | HR | BB | SO | HBP | SB | CS | AVG | OBP | SLG | DRC+ | DRAA | BRR | FRAA | BWARP |
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1970 | BAL | 21 | 30 | 104 | 20 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 9 | 21 | 0 | 1 | 1 | .211 | .279 | .284 | 67 | -3.3 | -0.2 | 2.3 | 0.3 |
1971 | BAL | 22 | 7 | 35 | 9 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 5 | 8 | 0 | 1 | 0 | .300 | .400 | .400 | 112 | 0.7 | 0.5 | 0.3 | 0.3 |
1972 | BAL | 23 | 133 | 528 | 128 | 21 | 3 | 12 | 53 | 96 | 7 | 13 | 6 | .278 | .358 | .415 | 126 | 16.9 | 1.3 | 0.8 | 4.0 |
1973 | BAL | 24 | 162 | 700 | 146 | 29 | 7 | 12 | 107 | 91 | 7 | 17 | 9 | .251 | .373 | .387 | 116 | 16.5 | 0.6 | 13.5 | 5.2 |
1974 | BAL | 25 | 160 | 707 | 153 | 29 | 6 | 19 | 90 | 117 | 20 | 17 | 11 | .263 | .376 | .431 | 134 | 30.7 | 4.2 | -0.8 | 5.6 |
1975 | BAL | 26 | 150 | 655 | 136 | 26 | 4 | 13 | 107 | 88 | 8 | 14 | 10 | .260 | .389 | .399 | 135 | 29.6 | 2.9 | -2.3 | 5.0 |
1976 | BAL | 27 | 144 | 615 | 138 | 31 | 4 | 13 | 86 | 99 | 3 | 14 | 6 | .266 | .373 | .417 | 133 | 24.7 | 2.9 | -7.1 | 3.9 |
1977 | CAL | 28 | 52 | 225 | 44 | 6 | 0 | 7 | 37 | 40 | 1 | 6 | 6 | .243 | .369 | .392 | 115 | 4.8 | -0.3 | -0.5 | 1.4 |
1978 | CAL | 29 | 144 | 591 | 122 | 16 | 2 | 6 | 75 | 83 | 7 | 4 | 3 | .251 | .357 | .329 | 98 | 0.7 | -1.1 | 5.8 | 2.2 |
1979 | CAL | 30 | 153 | 609 | 157 | 30 | 5 | 30 | 59 | 84 | 2 | 1 | 0 | .294 | .365 | .537 | 139 | 30.8 | 1.0 | -2.8 | 4.7 |
1980 | CAL | 31 | 150 | 596 | 135 | 22 | 2 | 14 | 84 | 108 | 4 | 3 | 7 | .271 | .377 | .408 | 121 | 16.0 | -3.6 | 4.1 | 3.4 |
1981 | CAL | 32 | 100 | 404 | 107 | 14 | 2 | 22 | 40 | 71 | 4 | 2 | 4 | .304 | .378 | .543 | 154 | 21.9 | 0.0 | 7.3 | 4.4 |
1982 | CAL | 33 | 145 | 605 | 132 | 28 | 5 | 19 | 82 | 109 | 8 | 3 | 3 | .261 | .371 | .449 | 121 | 15.7 | -3.0 | -7.3 | 2.2 |
1983 | CAL | 34 | 120 | 477 | 113 | 17 | 0 | 16 | 76 | 62 | 7 | 2 | 4 | .292 | .414 | .460 | 141 | 22.4 | 2.6 | 5.1 | 4.5 |
1984 | CAL | 35 | 116 | 432 | 93 | 15 | 1 | 18 | 57 | 70 | 2 | 2 | 5 | .256 | .357 | .452 | 127 | 14.5 | 2.4 | -8.8 | 2.0 |
1985 | CAL | 36 | 144 | 571 | 116 | 17 | 3 | 13 | 81 | 77 | 3 | 3 | 5 | .242 | .355 | .372 | 108 | 7.0 | 0.6 | 5.6 | 2.9 |
1986 | CAL | 37 | 98 | 366 | 84 | 18 | 0 | 9 | 39 | 54 | 3 | 1 | 3 | .268 | .354 | .412 | 106 | 3.3 | -0.7 | -0.7 | 1.1 |
Career | 2008 | 8220 | 1833 | 320 | 47 | 224 | 1087 | 1278 | 86 | 104 | 83 | .266 | .371 | .424 | 124 | 252.9 | 10.2 | 14.3 | 53.1 |
YEAR | Team | Lg | LG | G | PA | oppAVG | oppOBP | oppSLG | BABIP | BPF | BRAA | repLVL | POS_ADJ | DRC+ | DRC+ SD | FRAA | BRR | DRAA | BWARP |
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1970 | BAL | MLB | AL | 30 | 104 | .247 | .321 | .369 | .270 | 99 | -5.9 | 2.8 | 0.8 | 67 | 12 | 2.3 | -0.2 | -3.3 | 0.3 |
1971 | BAL | MLB | AL | 7 | 35 | .257 | .321 | .382 | .381 | 101 | 2.3 | 0.9 | 0.3 | 112 | 21 | 0.3 | 0.5 | 0.7 | 0.3 |
1972 | BAL | MLB | AL | 133 | 528 | .239 | .303 | .344 | .325 | 94 | 21 | 12.4 | 2.4 | 126 | 11 | 0.8 | 1.3 | 16.9 | 4.0 |
1973 | BAL | MLB | AL | 162 | 700 | .262 | .328 | .385 | .279 | 96 | 21.6 | 18.5 | -0.9 | 116 | 8 | 13.5 | 0.6 | 16.5 | 5.2 |
1974 | BAL | MLB | AL | 160 | 707 | .258 | .319 | .371 | .295 | 95 | 31.8 | 18.3 | -0.8 | 134 | 11 | -0.8 | 4.2 | 30.7 | 5.6 |
1975 | BAL | MLB | AL | 150 | 655 | .257 | .323 | .381 | .286 | 94 | 29.5 | 17.2 | -0.8 | 135 | 11 | -2.3 | 2.9 | 29.6 | 5.0 |
1976 | BAL | MLB | AL | 144 | 615 | .254 | .313 | .358 | .307 | 91 | 25.8 | 15.5 | -0.8 | 133 | 9 | -7.1 | 2.9 | 24.7 | 3.9 |
1977 | CAL | MLB | AL | 52 | 225 | .269 | .331 | .411 | .270 | 93 | 7.3 | 6.3 | 2.9 | 115 | 12 | -0.5 | -0.3 | 4.8 | 1.4 |
1978 | CAL | MLB | AL | 144 | 591 | .260 | .324 | .382 | .289 | 97 | 2.1 | 15.4 | -0.7 | 98 | 8 | 5.8 | -1.1 | 0.7 | 2.2 |
1979 | CAL | MLB | AL | 153 | 609 | .271 | .331 | .412 | .301 | 96 | 36.2 | 17.1 | -0.8 | 139 | 12 | -2.8 | 1.0 | 30.8 | 4.7 |
1980 | CAL | MLB | AL | 150 | 596 | .266 | .324 | .392 | .318 | 99 | 12 | 16.0 | -0.9 | 121 | 10 | 4.1 | -3.6 | 16.0 | 3.4 |
1981 | CAL | MLB | AL | 100 | 404 | .254 | .317 | .368 | .324 | 98 | 33.3 | 10.2 | -0.5 | 154 | 10 | 7.3 | 0.0 | 21.9 | 4.4 |
1982 | CAL | MLB | AL | 145 | 605 | .263 | .325 | .403 | .297 | 99 | 16.1 | 16.3 | -0.8 | 121 | 10 | -7.3 | -3.0 | 15.7 | 2.2 |
1983 | CAL | MLB | AL | 120 | 477 | .265 | .326 | .401 | .311 | 100 | 25.4 | 13.0 | -0.6 | 141 | 10 | 5.1 | 2.6 | 22.4 | 4.5 |
1984 | CAL | MLB | AL | 116 | 432 | .262 | .326 | .393 | .269 | 94 | 15.9 | 11.6 | -1.1 | 127 | 12 | -8.8 | 2.4 | 14.5 | 2.0 |
1985 | CAL | MLB | AL | 144 | 571 | .261 | .326 | .406 | .265 | 95 | 2 | 15.6 | -1.6 | 108 | 10 | 5.6 | 0.6 | 7.0 | 2.9 |
1986 | CAL | MLB | AL | 98 | 366 | .266 | .331 | .411 | .299 | 96 | 8.6 | 10.1 | -1 | 106 | 9 | -0.7 | -0.7 | 3.3 | 1.1 |
Year | Team | lvl | LG | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | TB | RBI | BB | SO | SB | CS | AVG | OBP | SLG | ISO | SF | SH |
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1970 | BAL | MLB | AL | 104 | 95 | 11 | 20 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 27 | 8 | 9 | 21 | 1 | 1 | .211 | .279 | .284 | .074 | 0 | 0 |
1971 | BAL | MLB | AL | 35 | 30 | 7 | 9 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 12 | 6 | 5 | 8 | 1 | 0 | .300 | .400 | .400 | .100 | 0 | 0 |
1972 | BAL | MLB | AL | 528 | 460 | 66 | 128 | 21 | 3 | 12 | 191 | 50 | 53 | 96 | 13 | 6 | .278 | .358 | .415 | .137 | 5 | 3 |
1973 | BAL | MLB | AL | 700 | 581 | 82 | 146 | 29 | 7 | 12 | 225 | 50 | 107 | 91 | 17 | 9 | .251 | .373 | .387 | .136 | 2 | 3 |
1974 | BAL | MLB | AL | 707 | 582 | 92 | 153 | 29 | 6 | 19 | 251 | 82 | 90 | 117 | 17 | 11 | .263 | .376 | .431 | .168 | 8 | 7 |
1975 | BAL | MLB | AL | 655 | 524 | 81 | 136 | 26 | 4 | 13 | 209 | 57 | 107 | 88 | 14 | 10 | .260 | .389 | .399 | .139 | 7 | 9 |
1976 | BAL | MLB | AL | 615 | 518 | 93 | 138 | 31 | 4 | 13 | 216 | 54 | 86 | 99 | 14 | 6 | .266 | .373 | .417 | .151 | 1 | 7 |
1977 | CAL | MLB | AL | 225 | 181 | 24 | 44 | 6 | 0 | 7 | 71 | 23 | 37 | 40 | 6 | 6 | .243 | .369 | .392 | .149 | 3 | 3 |
1978 | CAL | MLB | AL | 591 | 487 | 68 | 122 | 16 | 2 | 6 | 160 | 42 | 75 | 83 | 4 | 3 | .251 | .357 | .329 | .078 | 3 | 19 |
1979 | CAL | MLB | AL | 609 | 534 | 78 | 157 | 30 | 5 | 30 | 287 | 101 | 59 | 84 | 1 | 0 | .294 | .365 | .537 | .243 | 2 | 12 |
1980 | CAL | MLB | AL | 596 | 498 | 60 | 135 | 22 | 2 | 14 | 203 | 62 | 84 | 108 | 3 | 7 | .271 | .377 | .408 | .137 | 5 | 5 |
1981 | CAL | MLB | AL | 404 | 352 | 56 | 107 | 14 | 2 | 22 | 191 | 61 | 40 | 71 | 2 | 4 | .304 | .378 | .543 | .239 | 3 | 5 |
1982 | CAL | MLB | AL | 605 | 506 | 74 | 132 | 28 | 5 | 19 | 227 | 65 | 82 | 109 | 3 | 3 | .261 | .371 | .449 | .188 | 3 | 6 |
1983 | CAL | MLB | AL | 477 | 387 | 65 | 113 | 17 | 0 | 16 | 178 | 62 | 76 | 62 | 2 | 4 | .292 | .414 | .460 | .168 | 3 | 4 |
1984 | CAL | MLB | AL | 432 | 363 | 60 | 93 | 15 | 1 | 18 | 164 | 58 | 57 | 70 | 2 | 5 | .256 | .357 | .452 | .196 | 4 | 6 |
1985 | CAL | MLB | AL | 571 | 479 | 74 | 116 | 17 | 3 | 13 | 178 | 53 | 81 | 77 | 3 | 5 | .242 | .355 | .372 | .129 | 0 | 8 |
1986 | CAL | MLB | AL | 366 | 313 | 42 | 84 | 18 | 0 | 9 | 129 | 30 | 39 | 54 | 1 | 3 | .268 | .354 | .412 | .144 | 1 | 10 |
YEAR | Pits | Zone% | Swing% | Contact% | Z-Swing% | O-Swing% | Z-Contact% | O-Contact% | SwStr% | CSAA |
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Injury History — No longer being updated | Last Update: 12/31/2014 23:59 ET |
Date On | Date Off | Transaction | Days | Games | Side | Body Part | Injury | Severity | Surgery Date | Reaggravation |
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1983-08-29 | 1983-10-03 | 35 | 32 | Left | Hand | Fracture | - | - | ||
1981-06-07 | 1981-08-10 | 15-DL | 64 | 5 | - | Hand | Fracture | - | - | |
1977-06-09 | 1977-10-03 | 116 | 110 | - | Low Back | Surgery | Herniated Disk | 1977-07-04 | - |
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2019 Preseason Forecast | Last Update: 1/27/2017 12:35 ET |
PCT | PA | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SO | SB | CS | AVG | OBP | SLG | DRC+ | VORP | FRAA | WARP |
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Weighted Mean | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | 0 | 0 | ? | ? | .000 | .000 | .000 | 0 | 0.0 | ? | 0.0 |
Date | Question | Answer |
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2013-11-08 14:00:00 (link to chat) | How in the hell is Bobby Grich not in the HOF? (John from LA) | Voters thought walks were for sissies. (Ben Lindbergh) |
2013-05-24 14:00:00 (link to chat) | How in the world is Bobby Grich not in the HOF? (Bob from LA) | Combination of voters not doing a good job adjusting for ballpark/era, and his skill set being exactly the type of skill set that gets overlooked: Excellent defense at second base with loads of walks and ballpark-suppressing power. It's not just that he didn't get into the Hall of Fame; when I was at the OCR, the writers there thought I was absolutely out of my mind for suggesting he should. Seriously, they looked at it as though I were making a case for Jose Vidro. Really. (Sam Miller) |
2013-01-22 13:00:00 (link to chat) | How in the world is Bobby Grich not in the HOF? (John from LA) | John, I'm not much of a HOF guy so I don't feel qualified to answer this one. (R.J. Anderson) |
2013-01-11 14:00:00 (link to chat) | To me, the most overlooked thing regarding the results of the voting is Kenny Lofton's not receiving the requisite 5% of the vote to remain on the ballot.
1. Do you think in a regular year without a polarizing issue like steroids, would he have received the vote?
2. Now that he can only be inducted by the veterans committee, what do you think his chances are?
3. Do you think his bouncing around from team to team later in his career hurts the voter's perception of him?
I think it's very unfortunate that he won't stay on the ballot. I'm one who, after reading your analysis and through my own observation of him when he was active, certainly would get my vote if I had one. (Mike Shumka from Milton, Ontario) | I think Lofton suffers less because of the steroid protest than the size of the crowd on the ballot and the fact that a certain segment of the electorate dramatically undervalues walks and defense. Nearly all of the Hall's recent injustices fit into that pattern - think of Ron Santo, Bobby Grich and Tim Raines, for example.
Lofton will have a long wait ahead of him if his cause is taken up by the Veterans Committee. Among center field contemporaries, Jim Edmonds, Andruw Jones and Carlos Beltran will all have their cases taken up by the BBWAA, and they've got reasonable merits and similar JAWS scores too. (Jay Jaffe on the Hall of Fame) |
2013-01-11 14:00:00 (link to chat) | When the dust clears, do you see Lou Whitaker getting in to the Hall? (Yefrem from Canada) | Eventually, I think there's a good chance Trammell, Whitaker and Morris are all enshrined via the Veterans Committee process. I have Whitaker a bit below the JAWS standard and below Bobby Grich (http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/jaws_2B.shtml), but he's above on career and we're talking numbers to the right of the decimal overall - a false precision, basically.
It's probably too late given the current crowd of candidates, but I'd like to have seen Whitaker get back onto the BBWAA ballot via a similar amnesty to what put Ron Santo on the ballot in 1985 after he went 1-and-done in 1980. (Jay Jaffe on the Hall of Fame) |
2012-02-20 13:00:00 (link to chat) | How does Bobby Grich not get more notice regarding the HOF? Is he a candidate for reconsideration down the line, like by a Veterans Committee or something? And finally, is there a GM who would take Bill Mazeroski over Grich, given that hypothetical choice? (Jape from Portland) | I'm not sure why he hasn't even gotten on the Veterans Committee ballot - his career ended more than 21 years ago, so he shouldn't have any logistical obstacles.
As much as I love Grich, I'm sure there exist GMs who would have chosen Maz over Grich. For as good as the latter was, the former was a better defender according to both reputation and sabermetric consensus, and somebody wouldn't have bothered to consider that the offensive gap was greater. (Jay Jaffe) |
2010-08-26 13:00:00 (link to chat) | Good point about Braun vs. LHP. Bobby Grich had one year (1980 or thereabouts) where he hit .162 against lefties. Every other year of his career he had a normal platoon split for a righthanded regular.
(Rex Little from Big Bear CA) | Exactly! These things happen, and given he's still crushing righties, it's tough to get too upset about his future based on just over 100 PA against pitchers he normally destroys. (Marc Normandin) |
2010-01-06 13:00:00 (link to chat) | As an older Mets fan who fondly remembers Ventura for his grand slam single, and a young baseball fan who fondly remembers Ventura for charging Nolan Ryan. He deserved better than being one and done, right? (J.P. from Hartford) | Absolutely. I'm not convinced yet that he belongs, but as with Will Clark, Lou Whitaker, Dwight Evans, Bobby Grich and several others, I certainly feel the debate should have gone on a whole lot longer before anyone made up their minds. (Jay Jaffe) |
2010-01-06 13:00:00 (link to chat) | Off the top of your head, who are two or three very credible options for the Hall that few casual fans or even BP readers would see as such? Will Clark? Trammell? In other words, in your extensive research on the topic, who's really surprised you with good candidancies? (Grant from Chicago) | Bobby Grich is one. Will Clark another. Bill Dahlen and Rick Reuschel are two guys whose JAWS scores are near the line that nobody ever thinks of. Dahlen I can see, Reuschel I'm not even convinced of. (Jay Jaffe) |
2009-10-28 14:00:00 (link to chat) | I know it's early, but how do Utley's HoF chances look so far? (dtwhite from Toronto) | On the one hand, he's got five years towards a very solid peak score, he's got a ring and some All-Star appearances, and he's just finishing his Age 30 season.
On the other hand, the bar for second basemen in the Hall is unusually high - Bobby Grich and Lou Whitaker can't even get in - and there's a Nate Silver study that showed that second basemen tend to peak earlier and have shorter careers than other position players. Utley's had injury concerns over the past few years, and I worry if that will take its toll down the road. Which would be a damn shame, because he's one of my favorite players to watch. (Jay Jaffe) |
2008-09-10 13:00:00 (link to chat) | Jay,
Do you think of the players on the new Veteran's Committee ballot belong in the HOF? Thanks for chatting. (collins from greenville nc) | I think Bill Dahlen does, and I'd be willing to consider Joe Gordon given the impact of World War II service on his career, but I'm far more interested in seeing cases like Bobby Grich, Lou Whitaker and Dwight Evans come up for a vote than some of these oldtimers. (Jay Jaffe) |
2008-07-24 13:00:00 (link to chat) | Does the recent hot streak make you think differently about Dustin Pedroia going forward? Theres not much time in the majors to look at so I wonder if he's taking a step forward or if this is just one of those blips that happens over the course of 162. Thanks, Ms. Kahrl. (mattymatty from Philly) | It would be somewhat ironic if we had the new Bobby Grich on our hands, yet we in the analysis community shrank from identifying him until he already made it imminent. (Christina Kahrl) |
Date | Roundtable Name | Comment |
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2009-10-16 13:00:00 | NLCS Game Two/ALCS Game One | Popup city for the Dodgers. adambennett (MD Backgammon Tourney): Abreu for the HoF? A couple more good seasons should do it, right? Assuming we're talking about Bobby Abreu and not Tony or Winston, he's further away from the Hall of Fame. I looked at this back in August (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=9416). By those numbers, which don't account for 2009, he was about 17 WARP short on career and a couple WARP shy on peak, but the real problem is that he's just past 2,100 hits at age 35, isn't close to 300 homers (256), has just two All-Star appearances and has never finished higher than 14th in the MVP voting. Plus there's the fact that guys who walk 80 or 100 times a year are exactly the ones who get kicked in the head by the voters, who prefer hackers like Jim Rice and Ryne Sandberg to plate disciples like Ron Santo, Tim Raines and Bobby Grich. (Jay Jaffe) |
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