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|2014-09-17 14:00:00 (link to chat)||What do you think about the minor league wage suits? Do you think minor leaguers will ever organize / obtain better terms?|
(James from Bethesda)
|I think minor leaguers should be compensated more than they are. They are paid below minimum wage and only 5 months a year. Something is broken and should be fixed. They need a Curt Flood and a Marvin Miller but time will tell. (Joshua Kusnick)|
|2012-06-26 13:00:00 (link to chat)||What baseball team lends itself most poetically to the myth of Icarus? Prometheus? What baseball coach is the most like Willy Loman? Is baseball tragedy or comedy? |
(BIG CHUD from miracletown)
|The Rangers are Icarus. They've flown really close to the sun the last 2 seasons and they've gotten burned.
Curt Flood was Prometheus.
Ozzie Guillen is a loud-mouthed Willy Loman with a funny accent. (Ian Miller)
|2011-07-07 13:00:00 (link to chat)||Hard to compare owners from different eras. So what are the ownership eras of baseball? A) Abner Doubleday to the demise of the Federal League, B) The BlackSox to Jackie, C) Integration to Curt Flood, and D) Free Agency|
(Paul from DC)
|No, it's not that simple. You'd have to pinpoint the moment that ownership became a class of rich guys as opposed to some random grubby entrepreneurs shuffling guys in dirty uniforms around the country. You'd find key changes with the submission of owners to the National Commission and then to Judge Landis. There is the demise of "syndicate" baseball in the early part of the 20th century, where an owner could own more than one team and shuffle players between them for the best mix. And Jackie didn't change anything as far as ownership. For most of them, they just kept right on being primitivist bastards. (Steven Goldman)|
|2010-07-23 13:00:00 (link to chat)||Jay, did you see the piece William Rhoden wrote in the Times this week about Steinbrenner and Curt Flood and the Hall? He said if George makes it, Flood should make it first. I have to admit to having reservations about Flood being in there even though I wrote a book about him, admire his off-the-field actions, and would be more than happy to see him honored. What are your feelings about Flood and then George being in the Hall?|
(Alex Belth from Bronx)
|Yo, Alex! If Flood makes it, it won't be because of his merits as a player, it will be some kind of unique honor. He was a legitimate whiz in center field but not a tremendous hitter even after adjusting for the times; at best I see him coming up with a case somewhere between Lou Brock and Johnny Damon - a run at 3000 sprinkled with some postseason chops - if his career had continued and his challenge had never happened.
As for Steinbrenner, I'm for it. The man was probably the game's most influential owner after O'Malley, who's finally in and should have been a long time ago. (Jay Jaffe)
|2010-01-28 14:00:00 (link to chat)||Books you're currently reading, and plan to read, baseball and non-baseball divisions?|
(BL from Bozeman)
|In the baseball division, I finally picked up a copy of D'Antonio's Forever Blue, and I keep meaning to crack Brad Snyder's A Well-Paid Slave (about Curt Flood). I'm currently finishing up Sebestyen's 1989 (a light run through the fall of the Wall) and Howe's What Hath God Wrought (heavy slog through 1815-1848 US history), and debating whether to turn to Herwig's new history of First Marne or Blom's The Vertigo Years. Also, Kerr's A Quiet Flame needs attention, since I like the Bernie Gunther series quite a bit. (Christina Kahrl)|
|2009-09-14 16:30:00 (link to chat)||As an economist, how about a quick explanation of baseball's anti-trust exemption--why it was established to begin with, and how it's relevant today? I may be asking a bit much for a chat format, but seems worth a try. Thanks!|
(jromero from seattle)
|I actually was discussing this with my wife who just graduated law school last week. Apparently, it started in the '20s because the Supreme Court said baseball was a "state issue" and therefore shouldn't be covered under federal law (which can regulates only interstate commerce). Challenges were unsuccessful because of precedent, but other sports never got the same treatment. Curt Flood challenged it back in the '70s when he didn't want to be traded under the reserve clause, but that didn't work. It did open the door to free agency, though. That's the legal stuff, at least as far as I can remember. As an economist, I don't really see other baseball markets popping up if it were removed, and I'm actually pretty confident that removing the reserve clause itself might have disastrous consequences for players given baseball's playoff structure. Some kind of market restriction does help, though the current one is quite rough on players with short peaks. (Matt Swartz)|
|2008-09-24 14:00:00 (link to chat)||Does Travis Snider stay in the outfield long-term or does his body type necessitate a move to first at some point? How athletic is he? |
(Tim from Lansing MI)
|He's hardly Curt Flood out there, but he's actually a pretty solid outfielder. He's not a pig there and he has pretty good instincts and an average arm. I think he could stay there for a while. (Kevin Goldstein)|
|2008-01-10 13:00:00 (link to chat)||How about Curt Flood as the fifth?|
(Gump from ny)
|Curt Flood was a tremendous baseball player and a good human being. He gets FAR too much credit in the timeline of history, however. His case went nowhere. Put everyone else--McNally, Messersmith, Hunter, Seitz, Miller--in front of him as far as influence.
My #5 would be Marvin Miller. He was the perfect man for the job.
For those who think baseball was made worse by him, consider that the need to compete for players and pay them market salaries woke up an industry that was a generation behind the times in terms of marketing itself. I dare say that if not for Marvin Miller, we would not enjoy baseball in the many ways we can today. (Joe Sheehan)
No BP Roundtables have mentioned this guy.