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20 | 9375 | .285 | .352 | .415 | 112 | 50.9 |
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YEAR | TEAM | AGE | G | PA | H | 2B | 3B | HR | BB | SO | HBP | SB | CS | AVG | OBP | SLG | DRC+ | DRAA | BRR | FRAA | BWARP |
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1977 | DET | 19 | 19 | 48 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 12 | 0 | 0 | 0 | .186 | .255 | .186 | 64 | -1.9 | 0.4 | -2.2 | -0.2 |
1978 | DET | 20 | 139 | 504 | 120 | 14 | 6 | 2 | 45 | 56 | 2 | 3 | 1 | .268 | .335 | .339 | 92 | -3.1 | -2.5 | -1.4 | 1.3 |
1979 | DET | 21 | 142 | 520 | 127 | 11 | 4 | 6 | 43 | 55 | 0 | 17 | 14 | .276 | .335 | .357 | 94 | -2.2 | -1.6 | -18.4 | -0.1 |
1980 | DET | 22 | 146 | 652 | 168 | 21 | 5 | 9 | 69 | 63 | 3 | 12 | 12 | .300 | .376 | .404 | 116 | 13.6 | 5.0 | -12.6 | 3.4 |
1981 | DET | 23 | 105 | 463 | 101 | 15 | 3 | 2 | 49 | 31 | 3 | 10 | 3 | .258 | .342 | .327 | 95 | -3.3 | 1.7 | 5.1 | 2.3 |
1982 | DET | 24 | 157 | 556 | 126 | 34 | 3 | 9 | 52 | 47 | 0 | 19 | 8 | .258 | .325 | .395 | 97 | -1.0 | 1.8 | -7.8 | 1.6 |
1983 | DET | 25 | 142 | 581 | 161 | 31 | 2 | 14 | 57 | 64 | 0 | 30 | 10 | .319 | .385 | .471 | 130 | 20.1 | 2.5 | -13.3 | 3.4 |
1984 | DET | 26 | 139 | 626 | 174 | 34 | 5 | 14 | 60 | 63 | 3 | 19 | 13 | .314 | .382 | .468 | 129 | 23.1 | -4.3 | 1.6 | 4.5 |
1985 | DET | 27 | 149 | 677 | 156 | 21 | 7 | 13 | 50 | 71 | 2 | 14 | 5 | .258 | .312 | .380 | 90 | -5.5 | 0.5 | -1.6 | 2.2 |
1986 | DET | 28 | 151 | 653 | 159 | 33 | 7 | 21 | 59 | 57 | 5 | 25 | 12 | .277 | .347 | .469 | 128 | 22.4 | 3.7 | 4.6 | 5.9 |
1987 | DET | 29 | 151 | 668 | 205 | 34 | 3 | 28 | 60 | 47 | 3 | 21 | 2 | .343 | .402 | .551 | 151 | 42.3 | -0.3 | -1.9 | 6.8 |
1988 | DET | 30 | 128 | 523 | 145 | 24 | 1 | 15 | 46 | 46 | 4 | 7 | 4 | .311 | .373 | .464 | 141 | 23.9 | -1.1 | 5.8 | 5.3 |
1989 | DET | 31 | 121 | 506 | 109 | 20 | 3 | 5 | 45 | 45 | 4 | 10 | 2 | .243 | .314 | .334 | 95 | -2.1 | -2.8 | 15.6 | 3.3 |
1990 | DET | 32 | 146 | 637 | 170 | 37 | 1 | 14 | 68 | 55 | 1 | 12 | 10 | .304 | .377 | .449 | 127 | 19.3 | -0.9 | -5.9 | 4.0 |
1991 | DET | 33 | 101 | 421 | 93 | 20 | 0 | 9 | 37 | 39 | 3 | 11 | 2 | .248 | .320 | .373 | 98 | 0.0 | 1.4 | 5.8 | 2.4 |
1992 | DET | 34 | 29 | 120 | 28 | 7 | 1 | 1 | 15 | 4 | 1 | 2 | 2 | .275 | .370 | .392 | 105 | 1.1 | -0.8 | -1.9 | 0.3 |
1993 | DET | 35 | 112 | 447 | 132 | 25 | 3 | 12 | 38 | 38 | 2 | 12 | 8 | .329 | .388 | .496 | 130 | 18.1 | 2.9 | 1.6 | 3.9 |
1994 | DET | 36 | 76 | 311 | 78 | 17 | 1 | 8 | 16 | 35 | 1 | 3 | 0 | .267 | .307 | .414 | 92 | -2.2 | 0.0 | -3.9 | 0.6 |
1995 | DET | 37 | 74 | 255 | 60 | 12 | 0 | 2 | 27 | 19 | 0 | 3 | 1 | .269 | .345 | .350 | 91 | -2.2 | 0.8 | -0.1 | 0.8 |
1996 | DET | 38 | 66 | 207 | 45 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 10 | 27 | 0 | 6 | 0 | .233 | .267 | .259 | 52 | -12.2 | -0.5 | -5.0 | -0.9 |
Career | 2293 | 9375 | 2365 | 412 | 55 | 185 | 850 | 874 | 37 | 236 | 109 | .285 | .352 | .415 | 112 | 148.2 | 6.0 | -36.0 | 50.9 |
YEAR | Team | Lg | LG | G | PA | oppAVG | oppOBP | oppSLG | BABIP | BPF | BRAA | repLVL | POS_ADJ | DRC+ | DRC+ SD | FRAA | BRR | DRAA | BWARP |
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1977 | DET | MLB | AL | 19 | 48 | .272 | .323 | .406 | .258 | 102 | -5.1 | 1.3 | 0.6 | 64 | 14 | -2.2 | 0.4 | -1.9 | -0.2 |
1978 | DET | MLB | AL | 139 | 504 | .263 | .323 | .386 | .300 | 103 | -5.2 | 13.1 | 6 | 92 | 10 | -1.4 | -2.5 | -3.1 | 1.3 |
1979 | DET | MLB | AL | 142 | 520 | .268 | .331 | .405 | .300 | 102 | -5 | 14.6 | 6.7 | 94 | 10 | -18.4 | -1.6 | -2.2 | -0.1 |
1980 | DET | MLB | AL | 146 | 652 | .270 | .329 | .401 | .321 | 103 | 14.5 | 17.5 | 8 | 116 | 9 | -12.6 | 5.0 | 13.6 | 3.4 |
1981 | DET | MLB | AL | 105 | 463 | .259 | .319 | .375 | .273 | 101 | -5.3 | 11.7 | 5.4 | 95 | 10 | 5.1 | 1.7 | -3.3 | 2.3 |
1982 | DET | MLB | AL | 157 | 556 | .263 | .323 | .400 | .267 | 99 | 4.2 | 15.0 | 6.9 | 97 | 9 | -7.8 | 1.8 | -1.0 | 1.6 |
1983 | DET | MLB | AL | 142 | 581 | .265 | .324 | .398 | .341 | 100 | 26.6 | 15.8 | 7.2 | 130 | 11 | -13.3 | 2.5 | 20.1 | 3.4 |
1984 | DET | MLB | AL | 139 | 626 | .266 | .327 | .402 | .333 | 96 | 30.2 | 16.8 | 4.6 | 129 | 10 | 1.6 | -4.3 | 23.1 | 4.5 |
1985 | DET | MLB | AL | 149 | 677 | .262 | .325 | .408 | .270 | 95 | -1.2 | 18.5 | 8.5 | 90 | 10 | -1.6 | 0.5 | -5.5 | 2.2 |
1986 | DET | MLB | AL | 151 | 653 | .263 | .328 | .411 | .276 | 99 | 23.7 | 18.1 | 8.1 | 128 | 10 | 4.6 | 3.7 | 22.4 | 5.9 |
1987 | DET | MLB | AL | 151 | 668 | .268 | .334 | .432 | .335 | 99 | 51 | 19.7 | 9 | 151 | 10 | -1.9 | -0.3 | 42.3 | 6.8 |
1988 | DET | MLB | AL | 128 | 523 | .257 | .320 | .387 | .316 | 99 | 28.1 | 13.7 | 6.2 | 141 | 12 | 5.8 | -1.1 | 23.9 | 5.3 |
1989 | DET | MLB | AL | 121 | 506 | .259 | .320 | .379 | .257 | 101 | -2.7 | 13.2 | 5.9 | 95 | 10 | 15.6 | -2.8 | -2.1 | 3.3 |
1990 | DET | MLB | AL | 146 | 637 | .259 | .323 | .389 | .315 | 102 | 22.5 | 17.1 | 7.4 | 127 | 11 | -5.9 | -0.9 | 19.3 | 4.0 |
1991 | DET | MLB | AL | 101 | 421 | .260 | .327 | .395 | .256 | 103 | 0.2 | 11.4 | 4.5 | 98 | 10 | 5.8 | 1.4 | 0.0 | 2.4 |
1992 | DET | MLB | AL | 29 | 120 | .267 | .334 | .402 | .276 | 103 | 1.6 | 3.1 | 1.4 | 105 | 15 | -1.9 | -0.8 | 1.1 | 0.3 |
1993 | DET | MLB | AL | 112 | 447 | .266 | .335 | .406 | .340 | 103 | 21.2 | 12.8 | 3.3 | 130 | 11 | 1.6 | 2.9 | 18.1 | 3.9 |
1994 | DET | MLB | AL | 76 | 311 | .270 | .341 | .431 | .281 | 104 | -7.6 | 9.4 | 2.8 | 92 | 12 | -3.9 | 0.0 | -2.2 | 0.6 |
1995 | DET | MLB | AL | 74 | 255 | .265 | .338 | .414 | .284 | 102 | -2.7 | 7.6 | 2.7 | 91 | 11 | -0.1 | 0.8 | -2.2 | 0.8 |
1996 | DET | MLB | AL | 66 | 207 | .274 | .347 | .441 | .262 | 99 | -17.5 | 6.4 | 2 | 52 | 7 | -5.0 | -0.5 | -12.2 | -0.9 |
Year | Team | lvl | LG | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | TB | RBI | BB | SO | SB | CS | AVG | OBP | SLG | ISO | SF | SH |
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1977 | DET | MLB | AL | 48 | 43 | 6 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 8 | 0 | 4 | 12 | 0 | 0 | .186 | .255 | .186 | .000 | 0 | 1 |
1978 | DET | MLB | AL | 504 | 448 | 49 | 120 | 14 | 6 | 2 | 152 | 34 | 45 | 56 | 3 | 1 | .268 | .335 | .339 | .071 | 3 | 6 |
1979 | DET | MLB | AL | 520 | 460 | 68 | 127 | 11 | 4 | 6 | 164 | 50 | 43 | 55 | 17 | 14 | .276 | .335 | .357 | .080 | 5 | 12 |
1980 | DET | MLB | AL | 652 | 560 | 107 | 168 | 21 | 5 | 9 | 226 | 65 | 69 | 63 | 12 | 12 | .300 | .376 | .404 | .104 | 7 | 13 |
1981 | DET | MLB | AL | 463 | 392 | 52 | 101 | 15 | 3 | 2 | 128 | 31 | 49 | 31 | 10 | 3 | .258 | .342 | .327 | .069 | 3 | 16 |
1982 | DET | MLB | AL | 556 | 489 | 66 | 126 | 34 | 3 | 9 | 193 | 57 | 52 | 47 | 19 | 8 | .258 | .325 | .395 | .137 | 6 | 9 |
1983 | DET | MLB | AL | 581 | 505 | 83 | 161 | 31 | 2 | 14 | 238 | 66 | 57 | 64 | 30 | 10 | .319 | .385 | .471 | .152 | 4 | 15 |
1984 | DET | MLB | AL | 626 | 555 | 85 | 174 | 34 | 5 | 14 | 260 | 69 | 60 | 63 | 19 | 13 | .314 | .382 | .468 | .155 | 2 | 6 |
1985 | DET | MLB | AL | 677 | 605 | 79 | 156 | 21 | 7 | 13 | 230 | 57 | 50 | 71 | 14 | 5 | .258 | .312 | .380 | .122 | 9 | 11 |
1986 | DET | MLB | AL | 653 | 574 | 107 | 159 | 33 | 7 | 21 | 269 | 75 | 59 | 57 | 25 | 12 | .277 | .347 | .469 | .192 | 4 | 11 |
1987 | DET | MLB | AL | 668 | 597 | 109 | 205 | 34 | 3 | 28 | 329 | 105 | 60 | 47 | 21 | 2 | .343 | .402 | .551 | .208 | 6 | 2 |
1988 | DET | MLB | AL | 523 | 466 | 73 | 145 | 24 | 1 | 15 | 216 | 69 | 46 | 46 | 7 | 4 | .311 | .373 | .464 | .152 | 7 | 0 |
1989 | DET | MLB | AL | 506 | 449 | 54 | 109 | 20 | 3 | 5 | 150 | 43 | 45 | 45 | 10 | 2 | .243 | .314 | .334 | .091 | 5 | 3 |
1990 | DET | MLB | AL | 637 | 559 | 71 | 170 | 37 | 1 | 14 | 251 | 89 | 68 | 55 | 12 | 10 | .304 | .377 | .449 | .145 | 6 | 3 |
1991 | DET | MLB | AL | 421 | 375 | 57 | 93 | 20 | 0 | 9 | 140 | 55 | 37 | 39 | 11 | 2 | .248 | .320 | .373 | .125 | 1 | 5 |
1992 | DET | MLB | AL | 120 | 102 | 11 | 28 | 7 | 1 | 1 | 40 | 11 | 15 | 4 | 2 | 2 | .275 | .370 | .392 | .118 | 1 | 1 |
1993 | DET | MLB | AL | 447 | 401 | 72 | 132 | 25 | 3 | 12 | 199 | 60 | 38 | 38 | 12 | 8 | .329 | .388 | .496 | .167 | 2 | 4 |
1994 | DET | MLB | AL | 311 | 292 | 38 | 78 | 17 | 1 | 8 | 121 | 28 | 16 | 35 | 3 | 0 | .267 | .307 | .414 | .147 | 0 | 2 |
1995 | DET | MLB | AL | 255 | 223 | 28 | 60 | 12 | 0 | 2 | 78 | 23 | 27 | 19 | 3 | 1 | .269 | .345 | .350 | .081 | 2 | 3 |
1996 | DET | MLB | AL | 207 | 193 | 16 | 45 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 50 | 16 | 10 | 27 | 6 | 0 | .233 | .267 | .259 | .026 | 3 | 1 |
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Date | Question | Answer |
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2017-05-03 20:00:00 (link to chat) | Do you have any favourite teams? Players? (Ryan from Ottawa) | I grew up in Chicago, a White Sox fan, but I also happened to love the Expos. Tim Raines getting in the Hall of Fame was overdue. About as overdue as Lou Whitaker and Alan Trammell getting in the Hall. Travesties, particularly Trammell. (David Brown) |
2012-01-09 13:00:00 (link to chat) | It is nice here. (Envious Mustache from Elysian Fields) | And the winner is... Barry Larkin with 86.4 percent of the vote, the only player elected this year as expected. Some big surprises, good and bad, among the next wave. Jack Morris at 66.7 percent has put himself in good position to get over the top despite the crowd, Jeff Bagwell at 56.0 percent made a solid advance in the face of an odious whisper campaign, Lee Smith got to 50.6 percent, Tim Raines is very close to that mark at 48.7 percent, and even Alan Trammell posted a solid gain at 36.8 percent. Hell, Bernie Williams got 9.6 percent and stays on the ballot after all. (Jay Jaffe's Hall of Fame Special) |
2011-05-05 13:00:00 (link to chat) | Nice start for A.J. - HBP on an 0-2 count and a wild pickoff throw to 1st to get Sizemore to 3rd. April is over ... (goodwine10 from New York, NY) | These things happen. What's more interesting to me is that for all the supposed wonderfulness of Burnett's April, his ERA was only about league average... YES just flashed the names Kirk Gibson, Jack Morris, Alan Trammell, and Lou Whitaker. At least one of those guys should be in the Hall of Fame, and it's not Morris. (Steven Goldman) |
2011-01-05 13:00:00 (link to chat) | I always thought Alan Trammell and Lou Whitaker are given a poor shake. If they had played together in New York all those years, They'd be In! Your thoughts?
(Avenger Dad from Jenny Lind, Ca) | There's no doubt that east coast media exposure would have helped that duo - you could put them in Philadelphia or Boston and probably still see a significant bump.
What kills me is that there are voters who will eagerly check the box next to Jack Morris' name without recognizing that he had outstanding run support and defensive support, and that Trammell and Whitaker were a big part of that for his entire career as a Tiger. Yet those voters let Whitaker slip off the ballot after a single vote, and still won't give Trammell the time of day. (Jay Jaffe) |
2010-10-20 13:00:00 (link to chat) | Do you think Ian Desmond has the potential that the organization seems to think he has? (Charlie from Bethesda, MD) | The errors trouble me, the lack of selectivity troubles me, but as Christina pointed out in her aforementioned GM for a Day piece, putting Desmond and Danny Espinosa together up the middle seems like a no-brainer, a chance to have some above-average pop at those positions. As she said, they're not going to be Lou Whitaker and Alan Trammell (Trammell for the Hall of Fame NOW!) but they don't need to be. (Steven Goldman) |
2010-07-01 14:00:00 (link to chat) | looks like Daniel Fields is holding his own as a 19 year old in the FSL, any word on how he looks? is he still at SS? Detroit hasn't had a decent homegrown SS since Alan Trammell. (don from lansing) | He's playing center field, and looking good there. Holding his own is all he's doing. Good approach, but a lot of strikeouts. Bit of a project, but like the upside. (Kevin Goldstein) |
2010-01-06 13:00:00 (link to chat) | Surprised at the vote? (Tim from Tampa) | Surprised but not terribly so. My conclusion to today's piece:
So with the business of the pitchers concluded, we add Bert Blyleven to the ranks of Roberto Alomar, Barry Larkin, Edgar Martinez, Mark McGwire, Tim Raines, and Alan Trammell on the JAWS 2010 ballot. With the voting results scheduled be announced later today (Wednesday), I wouldn't be at all surprised if that slate draws a blank while Andre Dawson gets in, though I do think Alomar has a decent shot (early returns suggest reasons for optimism) and Blyleven may be nearing the tipping point. (Jay Jaffe) |
2010-01-06 13:00:00 (link to chat) | I'd call this good news for Bert. I was worried he'd stagnate around 62%. do you have the % of the vote for Edgar, Raines and Barry? They don't have it on espn.com. Thanks. (collins from greenville nc) | 539 ballots, five blanks, Andre Dawson 420 (77.9%), Bert Blyleven 400 (74.2%), Roberto Alomar 397 (73.7%), Jack Morris 282 (52.3%), Barry Larkin 278 (51.6%), Lee Smith 255 (47.3%), Edgar Martinez 195 (36.2%), Tim Raines 164 (30.4%), Mark McGwire 128 (23.7%), Alan Trammell 121 (22.4%), Fred McGriff 116 (21.5%), Don Mattingly 87 (16.1%), Dave Parker 82 (15.2%), Dale Murphy 63 (11.7%), Harold Baines 33 (6.1%), Andres Galarraga 22 (4.1%), Robin Ventura 7 (1.3%), Ellis Burks 2 (0.4%), Eric Karros 2 (0.4%), Kevin Appier 1 (0.2%), Pat Hentgen 1 (0.2%), David Segui 1 (0.2%), Mike Jackson 0, Ray Lankford 0, Shane Reynolds 0, Todd Zeile 0.
Segui gets his vote. Baines remains on life support thanks to the persistence of a stubborn few. Karros receives more votes than he had All-Star appearances. (Jay Jaffe) |
2010-01-06 13:00:00 (link to chat) | Seeing how there's very little chance the writers ever induct him, is it likely that Alan Trammell and Lou Whitaker eventually make it in to the Hall on a veteran's committee twin killing? (Mike from Chicago) | Given their resistance to electing ANYBODY, you're going to have to kill more than just the Twins who are on the Veterans Committee to get Trammell and Whitaker in. (Jay Jaffe) |
2009-07-07 13:00:00 (link to chat) | I can't believe that Alan Trammell doesn't get more publicity as a HOF snub. His numbers are almost identical to Ozzie Smith who got 90 percent of the vote? I guess it's because he couldn't do a backflip or have a flashy nickname. (dangor from New York) | Outstanding candidate who's gotten an extremely raw deal. I think he's about 10 JAWS points above the Hall standard for shortstops, and he's well ahead in terms of both batting and fielding runs. It's a crime, I tellz ya! (Jay Jaffe) |
2009-06-24 13:00:00 (link to chat) | Well, just in case my question disappeared last time, I was wondering what you thought of Barry Larkin's HOF chances. The guy doesn't seem to get enough credit for his fantastic career. (Mike from Queens) | I think it was Bill James who said that the only thing Larkin couldn't do was stay healthy. Even with that caveat, he was still a tremendous player and easily one of the best all-around shortstops of all time. If anything makes me nervous about his chances, it's that his numbers are broadly similar to Alan Trammell's, and the voters have missed badly on him. That said, his numbers are a little better and a little flashier due to playing a bit later. He'll also gain in luster as long as he's not connected with PEDs and all the A-1 candidates are (fairly or not). In short, he'll be going. Maybe he'll wait a bit, but he should be in there. That is, he should be and he will be. (Steven Goldman) |
2008-06-03 13:00:00 (link to chat) | What team did you grow up rooting for? (Rob from Bloomington, IL) | I grew up in mid-Michigan rooting for the Tigers. One of the thrills of my life has been getting to hang around one of my childhood heroes, Cubs bench coach Alan Trammell, who happens to be one of the nicest human beings on the planet and a terrific baseball man. (Len Kasper) |
2008-05-29 13:00:00 (link to chat) | Does Omar Vizquel make the Hall of Fame? If so, is he the worst BBWAA inductee? Assuming he gets in via the writers, of course. (Eric J from Tulsa OK) | Hard to say. I don't think we have any idea what the BBWAA is thinking, collectively, and we could see some silliness as regards narrative in the next 20 years. Maybe Vizquel benefits. Since he's 102% of Dave Concepcion, and 95% of Alan Trammell, I'd say he wouldn't be worse than Sutter. (Joe Sheehan) |
2008-03-06 13:00:00 (link to chat) | With Miguel Tejada's decline the last year or so, is it safe to say now that while he's had a really good career, he won't be a HOFer? Starting with the Larkin era , who of the recent and present shortstops do you now think makes the HOF? (Dusty from Not Chicago!!!) | Right now I'd say Tejada's biggest problem isn't the decline of his skills but his presence in the Mitchell Report and his possible role in the Rafael Palmeiro situation, including the subsequent perjury investigation. Until we see the BBWAA voters give even one steroid-connected player a pass, all bets are off for the lot of 'em.
As for recent and present shortstops who are Hallworthy, the line starts with Alan Trammell. I don't have my JAWS spreadsheet open (I'm working the laptop for the moment to surmount my tech difficulties) but I do believe Larkin has a decent case. More recently, A-Rod is an obvious choice, as is Derek Jeter. Beyond that, and then Tejada, I think there's a pretty big gap until you get to the younger playes like Reyes and Rollins who are only starting to assemble their credentials. (Jay Jaffe) |
2008-02-07 14:00:00 (link to chat) | Bill James HOF book showed that about 10% of at bats have gone to hall of famers over the years other than the '20s and '30s, which were higher. This seems like a good barometer. It also seems the '80s & '90s will be lower than this. I think the bar has been raised too high, c.f. Alan Trammell and Tim Raines. Your thoughts? (WillMeier from Muskegon, MI) | It does seem that the BBWAA has become more picky over the years--but then again, they've elected Tony Perez, Bruce Sutter and, next year, Jim Rice. Hard to say they're upholding a standard.
Remember that we're not dealing with complete information yet. Only players who ended their careers by 1988 have gone through a full ballot cycle. No one has been elected by the VC yet, and that system will change four more times before lunch. (Joe Sheehan) |
2008-01-08 14:00:00 (link to chat) | my prediction:
Goose in.
Rice misses by an extremely small margin.
Much, much bleating commences over the voters who submitted blanks to protest roids users, thus depriving the "deserving" pre-roids slugger.
(TomH from Lexington Park MD) | The Goose is Loose! He gets 85.8 percent, and he's the only one who gets in on this ballot.
Rice falls just shy at 72.2 percent, setting him up for a 15th-year push. Raines 24.3 percent. Oh is that ugly. Player Total Votes Percentage Rich Gossage 466 85.8% Jim Rice 392 72.2% Andre Dawson 358 65.9% Bert Blyleven 336 61.9% Lee Smith 235 43.3% Jack Morris 233 42.9% Tommy John 158 29.1% Tim Raines 132 24.3% Mark McGwire 128 23.6% Alan Trammell 99 18.2% Dave Concepcion 88 16.2% Don Mattingly 86 15.8% Dave Parker 82 15.1% Dale Murphy 75 13.8% Harold Baines 28 5.2% Rod Beck 2 0.4% Travis Fryman 2 0.4% Robb Nen 2 0.4% Shawon Dunston 1 0.2% Chuck Finley 1 0.2% David Justice 1 0.2% Chuck Knoblauch 1 0.2% Todd Stottlemyre 1 0.2% Jose Rijo 0 0% Brady Anderson 0 0% (Jay Jaffe) |
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2008-10-22 16:30:00 | World Series Game One | "Jon (DC): Just curious Steven, who would you have voted for in the NL in 1987: either Clark, Raines?" Neither. Ozzie Smith. Alan Trammell in the AL. And those are first guesses -- said so at the time. Nearly lost some teeth to a fellow high school student who was a big Andre Dawson fan... ...That guy is now an ardent Republican. (Steven Goldman) |
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