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Career Summary
Years PA AVG OBP SLG DRC+ WARP
22 7980 .284 .376 .527 128 67.1
Birth Date6-27-1970
Height6' 1"
Weight210 lbs
Age53 years, 9 months, 23 days
BatsL
ThrowsL
WARP Summary

MLB Statistics

YEAR TEAM AGE G PA H 2B 3B HR BB SO HBP SB CS AVG OBP SLG DRC+ DRAA BRR FRAA BWARP
1993 CAL 23 18 63 15 4 1 0 2 16 0 0 2 .246 .270 .344 57 -3.1 -0.6 7.0 0.5
1994 CAL 24 94 322 79 13 1 5 30 72 1 4 2 .273 .343 .377 80 -7.0 1.2 10.2 1.0
1995 CAL 25 141 620 162 30 4 33 51 130 5 1 4 .290 .352 .536 121 18.8 4.6 13.1 5.5
1996 CAL 26 114 483 131 28 3 27 46 101 4 4 0 .304 .375 .571 126 18.8 4.3 7.1 4.4
1997 ANA 27 133 571 146 27 0 26 60 80 4 5 7 .291 .368 .500 124 20.2 -0.6 15.0 4.9
1998 ANA 28 154 659 184 42 1 25 57 114 1 7 5 .307 .368 .506 129 25.7 2.9 5.8 5.3
1999 ANA 29 55 233 51 17 2 5 28 45 0 5 4 .250 .339 .426 92 -1.5 0.4 3.6 0.8
2000 SLN 30 152 643 155 25 0 42 103 167 6 10 3 .295 .411 .583 145 43.7 1.7 4.1 6.6
2001 SLN 31 150 608 152 38 1 30 93 136 4 5 5 .304 .410 .564 136 30.9 0.8 -2.3 4.8
2002 SLN 32 144 576 148 31 2 28 86 134 8 4 3 .311 .420 .561 149 37.5 -2.7 7.0 6.0
2003 SLN 33 137 531 123 32 2 39 77 127 4 1 3 .275 .385 .617 157 39.8 -0.2 15.6 7.0
2004 SLN 34 153 612 150 38 3 42 101 150 5 8 3 .301 .418 .643 162 48.9 -0.5 5.9 7.2
2005 SLN 35 142 567 123 37 1 29 91 139 4 5 5 .263 .385 .533 133 22.7 -1.7 14.9 5.4
2006 SLN 36 110 408 90 18 0 19 53 101 0 4 0 .257 .350 .471 105 4.6 -0.8 0.3 1.7
2007 SLN 37 117 411 92 15 2 12 41 75 0 0 2 .252 .325 .403 101 2.4 -1.1 6.8 2.1
2008 CHN 38 85 298 64 17 2 19 45 58 1 0 1 .256 .369 .568 115 6.4 -3.0 -1.3 1.2
2008 SDN 38 26 103 16 2 0 1 10 24 1 2 1 .178 .265 .233 113 1.8 -0.9 0.7 0.5
2010 CIN 40 13 32 6 2 0 3 3 7 0 0 0 .207 .281 .586 118 0.7 0.2 -0.6 0.1
2010 MIL 40 73 240 62 21 0 8 21 53 1 2 0 .286 .350 .493 115 4.7 -1.4 8.6 1.9
Career201179801949437253939981729496750.284.376.527128315.92.7121.567.1

Statistics for All Levels

'opp' stats - Quality of opponents faced - have been moved and are available only as OPP_QUAL in the Statistics reports now.
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YEAR Team Lg LG G PA oppAVG oppOBP oppSLG BABIP BPF BRAA repLVL POS_ADJ DRC+ DRC+ SD FRAA BRR DRAA BWARP
1988 BND A- NWN 35 143 .000 .000 .000 .346 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1989 QUD A MDW 31 99 .000 .000 .000 .404 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1990 PSP A+ CLF 91 346 .000 .000 .000 .376 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1991 PSP A+ CLF 60 231 .000 .000 .000 .405 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1992 MID AA TXS 70 289 .000 .000 .000 .442 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1992 EDM AAA PCL 50 212 .000 .000 .000 .385 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1993 CAL MLB AL 18 63 .260 .331 .395 .333 96 -2.6 1.8 -0.6 57 17 7.0 -0.6 -3.1 0.5
1993 VAN AAA PCL 95 403 .000 .000 .000 .384 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1994 CAL MLB AL 94 322 .265 .337 .417 .347 98 -3.4 9.8 -3.4 80 14 10.2 1.2 -7.0 1.0
1995 CAL MLB AL 141 620 .270 .342 .431 .323 100 24.1 18.6 1.7 121 9 13.1 4.6 18.8 5.5
1996 CAL MLB AL 114 483 .278 .348 .444 .341 98 26.7 14.9 1.2 126 11 7.1 4.3 18.8 4.4
1996 LEL A+ CLF 5 17 .000 .000 .000 .385 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1997 ANA MLB AL 133 571 .272 .339 .429 .299 97 20.5 15.7 -0.2 124 9 15.0 -0.6 20.2 4.9
1998 ANA MLB AL 154 659 .271 .336 .432 .345 95 30.2 17.9 1.8 129 7 5.8 2.9 25.7 5.3
1999 ANA MLB AL 55 233 .269 .339 .432 .297 94 2.9 6.5 -0.4 92 12 3.6 0.4 -1.5 0.8
1999 LEL A+ CLF 0 23 .000 .000 .000 .471 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2000 SLN MLB NL 152 643 .269 .344 .435 .349 114 34.4 20.3 1.3 145 7 4.1 1.7 43.7 6.6
2001 SLN MLB NL 150 608 .264 .328 .431 .355 102 41.4 18.1 1.5 136 6 -2.3 0.8 30.9 4.8
2002 SLN MLB NL 144 576 .260 .328 .417 .375 100 42.8 16.6 1.5 149 8 7.0 -2.7 37.5 6.0
2003 SLN MLB NL 137 531 .262 .330 .416 .297 101 34.9 14.0 1.2 157 15 15.6 -0.2 39.8 7.0
2004 SLN MLB NL 153 612 .266 .332 .430 .344 94 68.2 18.2 1.5 162 5 5.9 -0.5 48.9 7.2
2005 SLN MLB NL 142 567 .264 .329 .424 .310 101 28.8 16.3 1.5 133 6 14.9 -1.7 22.7 5.4
2006 SLN MLB NL 110 408 .269 .334 .431 .302 94 8.5 12.3 0.7 105 11 0.3 -0.8 4.6 1.7
2007 SLN MLB NL 117 411 .267 .329 .426 .285 101 -7.5 12.2 1.1 101 7 6.8 -1.1 2.4 2.1
2008 CHN MLB NL 85 298 .265 .329 .421 .257 103 13.9 8.6 0.8 115 9 -1.3 -3.0 6.4 1.2
2008 SDN MLB NL 26 103 .260 .328 .398 .227 90 -7.8 3.0 0.3 113 8 0.7 -0.9 1.8 0.5
2008 LEL A+ CLF 2 6 .284 .332 .422 .400 90 0.1 0.2 0 86 0 -0.5 -0.1 -0.2 -0.1
2010 CIN MLB NL 13 32 .254 .316 .409 .158 96 1.5 0.9 -0.2 118 12 -0.6 0.2 0.7 0.1
2010 MIL MLB NL 73 240 .261 .326 .409 .344 95 10.9 6.6 0 115 12 8.6 -1.4 4.7 1.9

Statistics For All Levels

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Year Team lvl LG PA AB R H 2B 3B HR TB RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG ISO SF SH
1988 BND A- NWN 143 122 23 27 4 0 0 31 13 20 44 4 0 .221 .331 .254 .033 0 0
1989 QUD A MDW 99 92 11 24 4 0 1 31 4 7 34 1 0 .261 .313 .337 .076 0 0
1990 PSP A+ CLF 346 314 36 92 18 6 3 131 56 27 75 5 2 .293 .352 .417 .124 1 1
1991 PSP A+ CLF 231 187 28 55 15 1 2 78 27 40 57 2 2 .294 .413 .417 .123 3 3
1992 MID AA TXS 289 246 42 77 15 2 8 120 32 41 83 3 4 .313 .412 .488 .175 1 1
1992 EDM AAA PCL 212 194 37 58 15 2 6 95 36 14 55 3 1 .299 .343 .490 .191 2 2
1993 CAL MLB AL 63 61 5 15 4 1 0 21 4 2 16 0 2 .246 .270 .344 .098 0 0
1993 VAN AAA PCL 403 356 59 112 28 4 9 175 74 41 81 6 8 .315 .383 .492 .177 2 2
1994 CAL MLB AL 322 289 35 79 13 1 5 109 37 30 72 4 2 .273 .343 .377 .104 1 1
1995 CAL MLB AL 620 558 120 162 30 4 33 299 107 51 130 1 4 .290 .352 .536 .246 5 1
1996 LEL A+ CLF 17 15 4 6 2 0 1 11 4 1 1 0 0 .400 .471 .733 .333 0 0
1996 CAL MLB AL 483 431 73 131 28 3 27 246 66 46 101 4 0 .304 .375 .571 .267 2 0
1997 ANA MLB AL 571 502 82 146 27 0 26 251 80 60 80 5 7 .291 .368 .500 .209 5 0
1998 ANA MLB AL 659 599 115 184 42 1 25 303 91 57 114 7 5 .307 .368 .506 .199 1 1
1999 LEL A+ CLF 23 19 4 8 2 0 0 10 3 4 2 2 0 .421 .522 .526 .105 0 0
1999 ANA MLB AL 233 204 34 51 17 2 5 87 23 28 45 5 4 .250 .339 .426 .176 1 0
2000 SLN MLB NL 643 525 129 155 25 0 42 306 108 103 167 10 3 .295 .411 .583 .288 8 1
2001 SLN MLB NL 608 500 95 152 38 1 30 282 110 93 136 5 5 .304 .410 .564 .260 10 1
2002 SLN MLB NL 576 476 96 148 31 2 28 267 83 86 134 4 3 .311 .420 .561 .250 6 0
2003 SLN MLB NL 531 447 89 123 32 2 39 276 89 77 127 1 3 .275 .385 .617 .342 2 1
2004 SLN MLB NL 612 498 102 150 38 3 42 320 111 101 150 8 3 .301 .418 .643 .341 8 0
2005 SLN MLB NL 567 467 88 123 37 1 29 249 89 91 139 5 5 .263 .385 .533 .270 4 1
2006 SLN MLB NL 408 350 52 90 18 0 19 165 70 53 101 4 0 .257 .350 .471 .214 5 0
2007 SLN MLB NL 411 365 39 92 15 2 12 147 53 41 75 0 2 .252 .325 .403 .151 3 2
2008 CHN MLB NL 298 250 47 64 17 2 19 142 49 45 58 0 1 .256 .369 .568 .312 2 0
2008 SDN MLB NL 103 90 6 16 2 0 1 21 6 10 24 2 1 .178 .265 .233 .056 1 1
2008 LEL A+ CLF 6 6 0 2 0 0 0 2 0 0 1 0 0 .333 .333 .333 .000 0 0
2010 CIN MLB NL 32 29 6 6 2 0 3 17 3 3 7 0 0 .207 .281 .586 .379 0 0
2010 MIL MLB NL 240 217 38 62 21 0 8 107 20 21 53 2 0 .286 .350 .493 .207 1 0

Plate Discipline

YEAR Pits Zone% Swing% Contact% Z-Swing% O-Swing% Z-Contact% O-Contact% SwStr% CSAA
2008 1574 0.4765 0.4072 0.7551 0.6027 0.2294 0.7965 0.6561 0.2449 -0.0055
2010 1043 0.4966 0.4698 0.7837 0.6718 0.2705 0.8477 0.6268 0.2163 -0.0067
Career26170.48450.43210.76650.63020.24580.81690.64440.2335-0.0059

Injury History  —  No longer being updated

Last Update: 12/31/2014 23:59 ET

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
2011-01-30 2011-01-30 FA 0 0 Left Lower Leg Surgery Achilles Tendon -
2010-09-22 2010-10-11 DTD 19 10 Left Lower Leg Strain Achilles Tendon -
2010-08-24 2010-09-16 15-DL 23 21 Abdomen Strain Oblique -
2010-07-27 2010-07-30 DTD 3 2 Right Lower Leg Strain Achilles Tendon - -
2010-07-25 2010-07-25 DTD 0 0 Right Lower Leg Tightness Achilles Tendon -
2010-07-07 2010-07-07 DTD 0 0 Right Lower Leg Soreness Achilled Tendon - -
2010-05-16 2010-06-01 15-DL 16 15 Left Abdomen Strain Oblique -
2010-04-29 2010-05-05 DTD 6 5 Low Back Soreness -
2010-03-30 2010-04-03 Camp 4 0 Thigh Soreness Hamstring -
2008-07-28 2008-07-31 DTD 3 3 Left Knee Inflammation -
2008-07-23 2008-07-25 DTD 2 2 Left Knee Inflammation - -
2008-07-06 2008-07-08 DTD 2 1 Left Thumb Sprain Sliding - -
2008-06-28 2008-06-28 DTD 0 0 Left Foot Inflammation Plantar Fasciitis -
2008-06-19 2008-06-21 DTD 2 2 Left Foot Inflammation Plantar Fasciitis - -
2008-03-21 2008-04-05 15-DL 15 5 Right Lower Leg Strain Calf -
2007-09-24 2007-09-25 DTD 1 1 - Groin Soreness - -
2007-09-18 2007-09-21 DTD 3 3 - Groin Strain - -
2007-08-16 2007-08-16 DTD 0 0 - Lower Leg Soreness Calf - -
2007-06-16 2007-07-19 15-DL 33 27 Low Back Nerve Injury Pinched Nerve -
2007-01-09 2007-01-09 Off 0 0 Left Surgery Hammertoe 2nd Toe 2007-01-09 -
2006-11-15 2006-11-15 Off 0 0 Right Shoulder Surgery Bone Spurs 2006-11-15 -
2006-08-27 2006-09-25 DTD 29 26 - Head Recovery From Previous Injury Concussion - -
2006-08-24 2006-08-25 DTD 1 1 - Head Recovery From Previous Injury Concussion - -
2006-08-21 2006-08-23 DTD 2 1 - Head Recovery From Previous Injury Concussion - -
2006-08-16 2006-08-19 DTD 3 3 - Head Recovery From Previous Injury Concussion - -
2006-06-22 2006-06-25 DTD 3 3 - Head Concussion Running Into Fence - -
2006-05-29 2006-06-04 DTD 6 5 - Abdomen Strain - -
2006-04-15 2006-04-18 DTD 3 3 Right Shoulder Inflammation - -
2006-03-29 2006-03-31 Camp 2 0 Right Foot Contusion Heel - -
2006-03-24 2006-03-24 Camp 0 0 Right Elbow Inflammation - -
2005-10-01 2005-10-02 DTD 1 1 Right Shoulder Sprain - -
2005-08-29 2005-08-29 DTD 0 0 Right Lower Leg Contusion Sliding Into Player - -
2005-06-13 2005-06-22 DTD 9 8 - Trunk Fracture Rib Fracture Diving for Ball - -
2005-06-02 2005-06-02 DTD 0 0 Left Ankle Sprain - -
2005-05-16 2005-05-17 DTD 1 0 Left Ankle Sprain -
2005-04-14 2005-04-16 DTD 2 1 - General Medical Illness Virus - -
2005-03-01 2005-03-05 Camp 4 0 Right Lower Leg Contusion Shin Foul Ball - -
2004-10-12 2004-10-12 DTD 0 0 Right Lower Leg Contusion Shin Foul Ball - -
2004-07-28 2004-07-28 DTD 0 0 - Low Back Soreness - -
2004-07-01 2004-07-03 DTD 2 1 Left Groin Strain -
2004-06-27 2004-06-29 DTD 2 2 Left Groin Strain - -
2004-06-11 2004-06-11 DTD 0 0 Right Thumb Sprain - -
2004-06-06 2004-06-06 DTD 0 0 - Trunk Soreness Ribcage - -
2003-12-04 2003-12-04 Off 0 0 Left Shoulder Surgery Distal Clavicule Resection 2003-12-04 -
2003-09-21 2003-09-26 DTD 5 3 - Abdomen Strain Oblique - -
2003-09-07 2003-09-09 DTD 2 1 - Knee Soreness - -
2003-09-03 2003-09-03 DTD 0 0 Right Knee Contusion - -
2003-07-26 2003-08-05 DTD 10 9 Right Shoulder Inflammation - -
2003-07-23 2003-07-25 DTD 2 1 Right Shoulder Inflammation - -
2003-06-18 2003-06-20 DTD 2 2 Left Hip Contusion Running Into Fence - -
2003-06-15 2003-06-15 DTD 0 0 - General Medical Illness Virus - -
2003-06-11 2003-06-11 DTD 0 0 - Thigh Strain Hamstring - -
2003-05-29 2003-05-31 DTD 2 2 - Trunk Contusion Ribcage - -
2003-04-17 2003-04-18 DTD 1 0 Right Lower Leg Soreness Calf - -
2003-04-10 2003-04-10 DTD 0 0 Left Lower Leg Soreness Calf - -
2003-04-03 2003-04-04 DTD 1 1 Left Lower Leg Strain Calf - -
2003-03-09 2003-03-28 Camp 19 0 Left Lower Leg Strain Calf Severe - -
2002-08-13 2002-08-13 DTD 0 0 Right Wrist Sprain -
2002-07-20 2002-07-20 DTD 0 0 Right Wrist Sprain -
2002-06-27 2002-06-27 DTD 0 0 Right Wrist Sprain -
2002-06-01 2002-06-16 15-DL 15 12 Right Wrist Sprain -
2002-05-02 2002-05-02 DTD 0 0 Right Groin Soreness - -
2002-04-19 2002-04-23 DTD 4 3 - General Medical Other Intestinal Abscess - -
2002-03-28 2002-03-28 Camp 0 0 - Low Back Soreness - -
2001-08-14 2001-08-15 DTD 1 1 Right Shoulder Inflammation Rotator Cuff - -
2001-07-22 2001-07-22 DTD 0 0 Right Shoulder Inflammation - -
2001-07-15 2001-07-15 DTD 0 0 - Lower Leg Contusion Shin Player Collision - -
2001-06-13 2001-06-16 DTD 3 3 Right Shoulder Inflammation Rotator Cuff - -
2001-06-10 2001-06-12 DTD 2 1 Right Shoulder Soreness - -
2001-05-21 2001-05-22 DTD 1 0 Right Knee Soreness - -
2001-05-05 2001-05-05 DTD 0 0 Right Knee Soreness - -
2001-04-10 2001-04-12 DTD 2 1 Right Groin Tightness - -
2001-04-05 2001-04-07 DTD 2 2 Left Sprain Great Toe - -
2001-03-25 2001-03-29 Camp 4 0 Right Groin Strain - -
2000-10-03 2000-10-03 DTD 0 0 Right Knee Soreness - -
2000-09-23 2000-09-23 DTD 0 0 Right Knee Soreness - -
2000-09-11 2000-09-11 DTD 0 0 - Fingers Contusion - -
2000-07-31 2000-08-02 DTD 2 2 - Hip Strain Hip Flexor - -
2000-07-05 2000-07-07 DTD 2 2 - General Medical Illness Virus - -
2000-06-29 2000-06-30 DTD 1 1 - Thigh Soreness Hamstring - -
2000-06-22 2000-06-22 DTD 0 0 - Thigh Strain Hamstring - -
1999-04-06 1999-08-02 60-DL 118 103 Right Shoulder Surgery Labrum 1999-04-19 -
1998-08-22 1998-08-25 DTD 3 3 - Low Back Spasms - -
1998-04-19 1998-04-20 DTD 1 1 Right Wrist Sprain - -
1997-10-16 1997-10-16 Off 0 0 Bilateral Knee Surgery Cartilage 1998-10-16 -
1997-08-01 1997-08-16 15-DL 15 13 - Low Back Strain - -
1997-07-01 1997-07-01 DTD 0 0 Right Knee Soreness -
1997-06-25 1997-06-26 DTD 1 1 Right Knee Swelling - -
1997-05-31 1997-06-01 DTD 1 1 Left Knee Tear Cartilage - -
1997-03-02 1997-03-05 Camp 3 0 Left Foot Strain - -
1996-06-12 1996-07-18 15-DL 36 0 Right Thumb Sprain - -
1996-05-26 1996-06-10 15-DL 15 0 - Groin Strain and Abdomen - -

Compensation

Year Team Salary
2010 MIL $850,000
2008 SDN $8,000,000
2007 SLN $11,000,000
2006 SLN $12,000,000
2005 SLN $10,000,000
2004 SLN $9,000,000
2003 SLN $8,000,000
2002 SLN $7,333,333
2001 SLN $6,333,333
2000 SLN $4,500,000
YearsDescriptionSalary
10 yrPrevious$77,016,666
10 yrTotal$77,016,666

 

Service TimeAgentContract Status
15 y 27 dPaul Cohen

Details
  • 1 year (2011). Signed by St. Louis as a free agent 2/4/11 (minor-league contract). Retired 2/11.
  • 1 year/$0.85M (2010). Signed by Milwaukee as a free agent 1/28/10 (minor-league contract). $1.75M in performance bonuses based on PAs. Award bonuses, including $0.1M for Comeback Player of Year. May request release if not on Major League roster by 3/25/10. Contract purchased by Milwaukee 3/25/10. Acquired by Cincinnati in trade from Milwaukee 8/9/10.
  • 2009: did not play
  • 2 years/$19M (2007-08). Signed extension with St. Louis 11/06. 07:$11M, 08:$8M. $3M of 2007 deferred with no interest until 2010-19. Award bonuses. No-trade protection. Acquired by San Diego in trade from St. Louis 12/15/07 (Cardinals paid Padres $2M in deal). Released by San Diego 5/9/08. Signed by Chicago Cubs as a free agent 5/14/08 (Cubs pay pro-rated portion of $0.39M minimum - about $0.29M - with San Diego paying about $5.71M and St. Louis paying $2M).
  • 6 years/$57M (2001-06), plus 2007 club option. Signed extension with St. Louis 5/00. $2M signing bonus. 01:$6M, 02:$7M, 03:$8M, 04:$9M, 05:$10M, 06:$12M, 07:$10M club option ($3M buyout). About $1M annually deferred with no interest. Limited no-trade clause (23-team no-trade list each year). Award bonuses based on MVP vote, Silver Slugger and $25,000 for All-Star.
  • 4 years/$9.5M (1996-99), plus 2000 club option. Signed extension with Anaheim. $0.1M signing bonus. 96:$0.6M, 97:$2M, 98:$3.15M, 99:$3.525M, 00:$4.5M club option. Anaheim exercised 2000 option 10/99. Acquired by St. Louis in trade with Anaheim 3/00.
  • 1 year/$167,500 (1995)
  • 1 year/$117,500 (1994)
  • Drafted by Anaheim 1988 (7-169) (Diamond Bar HS, Calif.).

2019 Preseason Forecast

Last Update: 1/27/2017 12:35 ET

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DateQuestionAnswer
2013-01-11 14:00:00 (link to chat)To me, the most overlooked thing regarding the results of the voting is Kenny Lofton's not receiving the requisite 5% of the vote to remain on the ballot. 1. Do you think in a regular year without a polarizing issue like steroids, would he have received the vote? 2. Now that he can only be inducted by the veterans committee, what do you think his chances are? 3. Do you think his bouncing around from team to team later in his career hurts the voter's perception of him? I think it's very unfortunate that he won't stay on the ballot. I'm one who, after reading your analysis and through my own observation of him when he was active, certainly would get my vote if I had one.
(Mike Shumka from Milton, Ontario)		I think Lofton suffers less because of the steroid protest than the size of the crowd on the ballot and the fact that a certain segment of the electorate dramatically undervalues walks and defense. Nearly all of the Hall's recent injustices fit into that pattern - think of Ron Santo, Bobby Grich and Tim Raines, for example.

Lofton will have a long wait ahead of him if his cause is taken up by the Veterans Committee. Among center field contemporaries, Jim Edmonds, Andruw Jones and Carlos Beltran will all have their cases taken up by the BBWAA, and they've got reasonable merits and similar JAWS scores too. (Jay Jaffe on the Hall of Fame)
2010-12-20 13:00:00 (link to chat)Better fantasy season in '11: Andrew McCutchen or Colby Rasmus? I'm concerned about the Cards re-working Colby's swing so he "hits more singles." WTF?
(Sanders from CT)		McCutchen in 2009: .286/.365/.471, 22 SB. McCutchen in 2010: .286/.365/.449, 33 SB. Both years are very valuable and I actually think his true level of power is in between both of those slugs. He could even step forward this year and be a 20-20 guy. With Rasmus you have a player with a higher ceiling -- I don't see McCutchen being more than a .290/.365/.465 hitter, while Rasmus could be very similar to Jim Edmonds. For next season, however, it really depends on your desire to withstand risk. McCutchen is more of a sure thing, but Rasmus has the higher ceiling. (Eric Seidman)
2010-10-14 13:00:00 (link to chat)I felt old when I compiled this list in April. Tweleve 2010 MLB players were older than me. How many will be back next year? 1 Jamie Moyer -- Phillies --18-Nov-62 2 Tim Wakefield -- Red Sox --2-Aug-66 3 Omar Vizquel -- White Sox --24-Apr-67 4 Trevor Hoffman -- Brewers -- 13-Oct-67 5 Matt Stairs -- Padres -- 27-Feb-68 6 Brad Ausmus -- Dodgers -- 14-Apr-69 7 Arthur Rhodes -- Reds -- 24-Oct-69 8 Ken Griffey Jr. -- Mariners -- 21-Nov-69 9 Mariano Rivera-- Yankees -- 29-Nov-69 10 Takashi Saito -- Braves -- 14-Feb-70 11 Jim Edmonds -- Brewers -- 27-Jun-70 12 Mark Grudzielanek -- Indians -- 30-Jun-70
(ted from the cubicle)		Most of them, I think. Next year is Wakefield's last season though. Matt Stairs wants to come back for one more year, at least. Arthur Rhodes is a reliever, so he'll pitch until he can't. (Marc Normandin)
2010-08-09 13:00:00 (link to chat)Follow up question: Did the Ludwick/Westbrook trade alter your thoughts at all re: the race with the Reds?
(Robert from Springfield)		I thought it closed the gap between the two teams. The Cardinals got worse.

Reds traded Chris Dickerson for Jim Edmonds today. Makes them a bit better, since they'll play Edmonds and they wouldn't have played Dickerson once he got healthy. Don't hate it for Brewers, who get some LH OBP and OF defense for, basically, free. He's a nice match with Gomez in CF. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-01-22 13:00:00 (link to chat)Who should be the Yankees opening day CF in 2009?
(Snakedoctor18 from New York)		Has the ship sailed on Zombie Mickey Mantle yet?

I'm certainly not wowed by the Yankees' in-house options, a pool that nominally includes Melky Cabrera, Brett Gardner, Johnny Damon and Nick Swisher. I don't think the latter two can carry the position defensively anymore, and I'm less than wowed by the offense offered by either of the former two, unless Cabrera has spent the entire winter being beaten over the head with a fungo bat in an effort to impart the slightest modicum of common sense into his thick skull.

Which means that a better solution must lie outside the organization. I'd be willing to see if Jim Edmonds has anything left given his rebound with the Cubs. (Jay Jaffe)
2008-11-24 15:00:00 (link to chat)I seem to remember several years ago reports that Billy Beane was on the verge of trading for Jim Edmonds, but he went to St. Louis instead. I would LOVE to know which side nixed the deal and why. Can I find that anywhere? You could probably write a whole book about stuff like this...
(Jed from San Francisco)		Not sure. You'd probably have to find an insider willing to talk. (Caleb Peiffer)
2008-11-19 13:00:00 (link to chat)If the Yankees don't end up with Teixeira, and Swisher ends up at first, doesn't signing Jim Edmonds make sense as a placeholder until Austin Jackson can come up?
(Charlie from Bethesda, MD)		Is it Edmonds in San Diego or Chicago? And would someone please tell me what changed when he switched teams?
To answer the question, no, I don't think so. (Will Carroll)
2008-10-06 14:00:00 (link to chat)Did the Padres do anything "wrong" en route to this 99-loss season or is this actually an Oakland-like case of a pretty savvy organization just running out of chips and the timing not being right to compete. That said do you like the Padres going into the next 5 years, can they recover?
(Red from Mobile, AL)		They wasted time with Jim Edmonds, but really, nothing is fundamentally wrong with the organization right now. They are going to feel the effects of some bad drafts for a while--they had a three - or four-year stretch of nothing, so they can't really reload at the moment. 2009 won't be a success, but they should be better after that. Great, great front office. (Joe Sheehan)
2008-06-17 15:00:00 (link to chat)Jay: It seems to me that the statistical 'cliff' that potential HOFers can fall off of is much higher than for normal players. Maybe the evidence is more anecdotal than actual, but I seem to remember many of those players (guys like Knoblauch and Rice leap to mind instantly) when I think of players of my era that were 'destined' for the HOF. Does the wide gulf between normal and HOF-levels of performance play any part in calculating future HOF worthiness of active players?
(sodbuster from Wagner)		Well, it's certainly a longer way down from being very good to so craptastic that you have to hang up your spikes in your mid-30s as both Rice and Chuckie Knobs did, and it tends to generate more coverage as to "what went wrong" though in fact these players were at least exceptional for some period of their careers.

But you're onto something with your question. Predicting Hallworthiness among active players is a tricky business. Even a great and useful predictive tool like PECOTA isn't all that helpful, because HOF caliber players tend to continue outstripping their projections late into their careers. Guys in their mid-30s who might have a shot may still need to hit their 75 percentile projections or above year after year in order to make a great case for themselves. Here I'm thinking of perennial All-Stars like Chipper Jones (who I think will make it) and Jorge Posada (I hope but don't think he will) as well as the fall-off-the-table cases like Carlos Delgado and Jim Edmonds. (Jay Jaffe)
2008-05-27 13:00:00 (link to chat)Rumor has it the Cubs are thinking about moving Fukudome to CF and playing Micah Hoffpaiur in RF against right handers, then shifting Fukudome back over and playing Reed Johnson in CF against southpaws. Don't get me wrong, I like Hoffpaiur, but is this really a better decision than just cutting Jim Edmonds and putting Pie back into the platoon role in CF?
(Rob from Bloomington, IL)		Of course not, although I'd note that Pie is sucking wind down at Iowa. (Nate Silver)
2008-03-28 14:00:00 (link to chat)Joe, love your analysis. You have mentioned in a couple articles that you're worried about Jim Edmonds in Petco's outfield. Do you have any evidence that Petco's outfield (or center field, specifically) is that much larger than the average outfield and/or that it's that much more difficult to play defense out there (again, than the average park)?
(MB from Boston)		Well I don't have square footage, but it's 404 to the gaps, deeper than anywhere else. When you go there, it really is disconcerting how big it is. We also know that Petco kills runs and homers, in part because of its dimensions.

So I'm comfortable describing it as one of the toughest CFs to play. (Joe Sheehan)
2008-03-11 12:00:00 (link to chat)I can't help but think that the Padres still have half a dozen better options for their outfield then the guys they have slated now. The Red Sox and Angels have extra outfielders to trade. Kenny Lofton or Corey Patterson seem like reasonable fits when you consider the salary they'll be paying out to Jim Edmonds. When did KT get all Pat Gillick-y?
(Wilson from Cambridge)		I would have liked to see them snag Patterson so that Edmonds could play left field. The man cannot cover the ground in that park. He'd be an upgrade in left for one year, though. Lofton isn't the answer to play next to him...honestly, it might be worth seeing how much of Gary Matthews' Jr.'s contract the Angels are willing to eat.

If the outfield is Hairston/Headley, Edmonds and Giles, I weep for that flyball pitching staff. (Joe Sheehan)
2008-02-28 14:00:00 (link to chat)Do you think Brian Giles and Jim Edmonds fall off the cliff this year in San Diego?
(theguag from Louisville)		Aren't they already in the act of falling, if still short of hitting the bottom? I think the answer is generally yes.

Time to start winding down, so let's do a couple of quickies to wrap up. (Christina Kahrl)
2008-02-27 13:00:00 (link to chat)There was some interesting centerfielder talk on the Max Kellerman radio show today. They argued for Jim Edmonds' HOF case and were also discussing Ichiro, at one point even comparing him to Tris Speaker and Ty Cobb. Is Ichiro really at their level?
(Peter from Staten Island)		No, I don't think he is. He's got the speed and batting averages of their games, but he doesn't have the power. If you look at Clay's translated stats on the DT pages for these players, you'll see that Cobb works out to .355/.423/.617, and Speaker to .324/.410/.580, but Ichiro to "only" .348/.398/.462. If Speaker and Cobb had had the heart of their career in the lively ball era, they likely would have been huge power hitters, with some of those doubles and triples heading over the fences... As for Edmonds, I think he compares very well with the great CFs. How many of them were both great gloves and slugged .500? Very few. I think Edmonds is deserving, but he's going to have problems because he's short in the counting stats department due to not becoming a regular until 25 and subsequent injuries. (Steven Goldman)
2008-01-23 13:00:00 (link to chat)Does Pecota have any profound thoughts on Jim Edmonds in Petco? Do you?
(Sterling Hitchcock from San Diego)		This is what the phrase 'last throes' was invented for. (Nate Silver)


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