Dwight Gooden PMets |
Years | G | IP | W | L | SV | ERA | WARP |
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18 | 430 | 2800.7 | 194 | 112 | 3 | 3.51 | 65.6 |
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YEAR | Team | Lg | G | GS | IP | W | L | SV | H | BB | SO | HR | PPF | H/9 | BB/9 | HR/9 | K/9 | GB% | BABIP | WHIP | FIP | ERA | cFIP | DRA | DRA- | WARP |
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1984 | NYN | MLB | 31 | 31 | 218.0 | 17 | 9 | 0 | 161 | 73 | 276 | 7 | 95 | 6.6 | 3.0 | 0.3 | 11.4 | 0% | .296 | 1.07 | 1.71 | 2.60 | 38 | 1.81 | 42.2 | 8.5 |
1985 | NYN | MLB | 35 | 35 | 276.7 | 24 | 4 | 0 | 198 | 69 | 268 | 13 | 92 | 6.4 | 2.2 | 0.4 | 8.7 | 0% | .259 | 0.97 | 2.05 | 1.53 | 56 | 1.91 | 43.8 | 10.8 |
1986 | NYN | MLB | 33 | 33 | 250.0 | 17 | 6 | 0 | 197 | 80 | 200 | 17 | 97 | 7.1 | 2.9 | 0.6 | 7.2 | 0% | .250 | 1.11 | 3.03 | 2.84 | 75 | 2.64 | 59.5 | 7.9 |
1987 | NYN | MLB | 25 | 25 | 179.7 | 15 | 7 | 0 | 162 | 53 | 148 | 11 | 97 | 8.1 | 2.7 | 0.6 | 7.4 | 0% | .293 | 1.20 | 2.93 | 3.21 | 72 | 3.12 | 65.6 | 5.3 |
1988 | NYN | MLB | 34 | 34 | 248.3 | 18 | 9 | 0 | 242 | 57 | 175 | 8 | 94 | 8.8 | 2.1 | 0.3 | 6.3 | 0% | .301 | 1.20 | 2.47 | 3.19 | 70 | 2.51 | 60.3 | 7.5 |
1989 | NYN | MLB | 19 | 17 | 118.3 | 9 | 4 | 1 | 93 | 47 | 101 | 9 | 97 | 7.1 | 3.6 | 0.7 | 7.7 | 0% | .249 | 1.18 | 3.18 | 2.89 | 81 | 2.30 | 55.3 | 3.9 |
1990 | NYN | MLB | 34 | 34 | 232.7 | 19 | 7 | 0 | 229 | 70 | 223 | 10 | 97 | 8.9 | 2.7 | 0.4 | 8.6 | 0% | .325 | 1.29 | 2.44 | 3.83 | 64 | 2.44 | 56.7 | 7.6 |
1991 | NYN | MLB | 27 | 27 | 190.0 | 13 | 7 | 0 | 185 | 56 | 150 | 12 | 98 | 8.8 | 2.7 | 0.6 | 7.1 | 0% | .305 | 1.27 | 2.96 | 3.60 | 72 | 2.66 | 61.6 | 5.8 |
1992 | NYN | MLB | 31 | 31 | 206.0 | 10 | 13 | 0 | 197 | 70 | 145 | 11 | 97 | 8.6 | 3.1 | 0.5 | 6.3 | 0% | .293 | 1.30 | 3.12 | 3.67 | 87 | 3.15 | 76.4 | 4.6 |
1993 | NYN | MLB | 29 | 29 | 208.7 | 12 | 15 | 0 | 188 | 61 | 149 | 16 | 94 | 8.1 | 2.6 | 0.7 | 6.4 | 0% | .273 | 1.19 | 3.54 | 3.45 | 85 | 3.31 | 71.4 | 5.4 |
1994 | NYN | MLB | 7 | 7 | 41.3 | 3 | 4 | 0 | 46 | 15 | 40 | 9 | 96 | 10.0 | 3.3 | 2.0 | 8.7 | 0% | .316 | 1.48 | 5.11 | 6.31 | 78 | 2.74 | 55.3 | 1.4 |
1996 | NYA | MLB | 29 | 29 | 170.7 | 11 | 7 | 0 | 169 | 88 | 126 | 19 | 101 | 8.9 | 4.6 | 1.0 | 6.6 | 0% | .292 | 1.51 | 4.92 | 5.01 | 110 | 5.96 | 117.7 | 0.3 |
1997 | NYA | MLB | 20 | 19 | 106.3 | 9 | 5 | 0 | 116 | 53 | 66 | 14 | 95 | 9.8 | 4.5 | 1.2 | 5.6 | 0% | .307 | 1.59 | 5.30 | 4.91 | 111 | 6.08 | 126.4 | -0.3 |
1998 | CLE | MLB | 23 | 23 | 134.0 | 8 | 6 | 0 | 135 | 51 | 83 | 13 | 102 | 9.1 | 3.4 | 0.9 | 5.6 | 0% | .288 | 1.39 | 4.58 | 3.76 | 110 | 5.90 | 122.1 | 0.0 |
1999 | CLE | MLB | 26 | 22 | 115.0 | 3 | 4 | 0 | 127 | 67 | 88 | 18 | 107 | 9.9 | 5.2 | 1.4 | 6.9 | 0% | .311 | 1.69 | 5.68 | 6.26 | 123 | 7.87 | 153.0 | -1.9 |
2000 | HOU | 0 | 1 | 1 | 4.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 6 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 130 | 13.5 | 6.8 | 2.3 | 2.3 | 0% | .333 | 2.25 | 8.05 | 9.00 | 107 | 5.30 | 102.0 | 0.0 |
2000 | NYA | 0 | 18 | 5 | 64.3 | 4 | 2 | 2 | 66 | 21 | 31 | 8 | 86 | 9.2 | 2.9 | 1.1 | 4.3 | 0% | .271 | 1.35 | 4.85 | 3.36 | 122 | 6.91 | 132.9 | -0.5 |
2000 | TBA | 0 | 8 | 8 | 36.7 | 2 | 3 | 0 | 47 | 20 | 23 | 14 | 85 | 11.5 | 4.9 | 3.4 | 5.6 | 0% | .292 | 1.83 | 8.81 | 6.63 | 125 | 7.96 | 153.2 | -0.7 |
2000 | TOT | MLB | 27 | 14 | 105.0 | 6 | 5 | 2 | 119 | 44 | 55 | 23 | 87 | 10.2 | 3.8 | 2.0 | 4.7 | 0% | .000 | 1.55 | 6.35 | 4.71 | 123 | 7.21 | 138.8 | -1.2 |
Career | MLB | 430 | 410 | 2800.7 | 194 | 112 | 3 | 2564 | 954 | 2293 | 210 | 97 | 8.2 | 3.1 | 0.7 | 7.4 | 50% | .288 | 1.26 | 3.31 | 3.51 | 80 | 3.46 | 74.8 | 65.5 |
YEAR | Team | Lg | LG | G | GS | IP | W | L | SV | H | BB | SO | HR | PPF | H/9 | BB/9 | HR/9 | K/9 | GB% | BABIP | WHIP | FIP | ERA | cFIP | DRA | DRA- |
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1982 | LTF | A- | NYP | 2 | 2 | 13.0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 11 | 3 | 18 | 2 | 7.6 | 2.1 | 1.4 | 12.5 | 0% | .000 | 1.08 | 3.35 | 4.15 | 0 | 0.00 | 0.0 | |
1982 | KNG | Rk | APL | 9 | 9 | 65.7 | 5 | 4 | 0 | 53 | 25 | 66 | 1 | 7.3 | 3.4 | 0.1 | 9.0 | 0% | .000 | 1.19 | 2.57 | 2.47 | 0 | 0.00 | 0.0 | |
1983 | LYN | A+ | CRL | 27 | 27 | 191.0 | 19 | 4 | 0 | 121 | 112 | 300 | 11 | 5.7 | 5.3 | 0.5 | 14.1 | 0% | .000 | 1.22 | 2.48 | 2.50 | 0 | 0.00 | 0.0 | |
1984 | NYN | MLB | NL | 31 | 31 | 218.0 | 17 | 9 | 0 | 161 | 73 | 276 | 7 | 95 | 6.6 | 3.0 | 0.3 | 11.4 | 0% | .296 | 1.07 | 1.71 | 2.60 | 38 | 1.81 | 42.2 |
1985 | NYN | MLB | NL | 35 | 35 | 276.7 | 24 | 4 | 0 | 198 | 69 | 268 | 13 | 92 | 6.4 | 2.2 | 0.4 | 8.7 | 0% | .259 | 0.97 | 2.05 | 1.53 | 56 | 1.91 | 43.8 |
1986 | NYN | MLB | NL | 33 | 33 | 250.0 | 17 | 6 | 0 | 197 | 80 | 200 | 17 | 97 | 7.1 | 2.9 | 0.6 | 7.2 | 0% | .250 | 1.11 | 3.03 | 2.84 | 75 | 2.64 | 59.5 |
1987 | NYN | MLB | NL | 25 | 25 | 179.7 | 15 | 7 | 0 | 162 | 53 | 148 | 11 | 97 | 8.1 | 2.7 | 0.6 | 7.4 | 0% | .293 | 1.20 | 2.93 | 3.21 | 72 | 3.12 | 65.6 |
1987 | LYN | A+ | CRL | 1 | 1 | 4.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 0 | 4.5 | 4.5 | 0.0 | 6.8 | 0% | .000 | 1.00 | 3.20 | 0.00 | 0 | 0.00 | 0.0 | |
1987 | NOR | AAA | INT | 4 | 4 | 22.0 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 20 | 9 | 24 | 0 | 8.2 | 3.7 | 0.0 | 9.8 | 0% | .000 | 1.32 | 1.97 | 2.05 | 0 | 0.00 | 0.0 | |
1988 | NYN | MLB | NL | 34 | 34 | 248.3 | 18 | 9 | 0 | 242 | 57 | 175 | 8 | 94 | 8.8 | 2.1 | 0.3 | 6.3 | 0% | .301 | 1.20 | 2.47 | 3.19 | 70 | 2.51 | 60.3 |
1989 | NYN | MLB | NL | 19 | 17 | 118.3 | 9 | 4 | 1 | 93 | 47 | 101 | 9 | 97 | 7.1 | 3.6 | 0.7 | 7.7 | 0% | .249 | 1.18 | 3.18 | 2.89 | 81 | 2.30 | 55.3 |
1990 | NYN | MLB | NL | 34 | 34 | 232.7 | 19 | 7 | 0 | 229 | 70 | 223 | 10 | 97 | 8.9 | 2.7 | 0.4 | 8.6 | 0% | .325 | 1.29 | 2.44 | 3.83 | 64 | 2.44 | 56.7 |
1991 | NYN | MLB | NL | 27 | 27 | 190.0 | 13 | 7 | 0 | 185 | 56 | 150 | 12 | 98 | 8.8 | 2.7 | 0.6 | 7.1 | 0% | .305 | 1.27 | 2.96 | 3.60 | 72 | 2.66 | 61.6 |
1992 | NYN | MLB | NL | 31 | 31 | 206.0 | 10 | 13 | 0 | 197 | 70 | 145 | 11 | 97 | 8.6 | 3.1 | 0.5 | 6.3 | 0% | .293 | 1.30 | 3.12 | 3.67 | 87 | 3.15 | 76.4 |
1993 | NYN | MLB | NL | 29 | 29 | 208.7 | 12 | 15 | 0 | 188 | 61 | 149 | 16 | 94 | 8.1 | 2.6 | 0.7 | 6.4 | 0% | .273 | 1.19 | 3.54 | 3.45 | 85 | 3.31 | 71.4 |
1994 | NYN | MLB | NL | 7 | 7 | 41.3 | 3 | 4 | 0 | 46 | 15 | 40 | 9 | 96 | 10.0 | 3.3 | 2.0 | 8.7 | 0% | .316 | 1.48 | 5.11 | 6.31 | 78 | 2.74 | 55.3 |
1994 | BIN | AA | EAS | 1 | 1 | 5.0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 1 | 4 | 0 | 3.6 | 1.8 | 0.0 | 7.2 | 0% | .000 | 0.60 | 2.17 | 0.00 | 0 | 0.00 | 0.0 | |
1994 | NOR | AAA | INT | 1 | 1 | 3.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 4 | 0 | 0.0 | 3.0 | 0.0 | 12.0 | 0% | .000 | 0.33 | 1.39 | 0.00 | 0 | 0.00 | 0.0 | |
1996 | NYA | MLB | AL | 29 | 29 | 170.7 | 11 | 7 | 0 | 169 | 88 | 126 | 19 | 101 | 8.9 | 4.6 | 1.0 | 6.6 | 0% | .292 | 1.51 | 4.92 | 5.01 | 110 | 5.96 | 117.7 |
1997 | NYA | MLB | AL | 20 | 19 | 106.3 | 9 | 5 | 0 | 116 | 53 | 66 | 14 | 95 | 9.8 | 4.5 | 1.2 | 5.6 | 0% | .307 | 1.59 | 5.30 | 4.91 | 111 | 6.08 | 126.4 |
1997 | NRW | AA | EAS | 3 | 3 | 18.0 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 13 | 5 | 14 | 3 | 6.5 | 2.5 | 1.5 | 7.0 | 0% | .200 | 1.00 | 4.85 | 3.00 | 0 | 0.00 | 0.0 | |
1997 | COH | AAA | INT | 2 | 2 | 12.0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 7 | 4 | 10 | 1 | 5.3 | 3.0 | 0.8 | 7.5 | 0% | .182 | 0.92 | 4.14 | 3.75 | 0 | 0.00 | 0.0 | |
1998 | CLE | MLB | AL | 23 | 23 | 134.0 | 8 | 6 | 0 | 135 | 51 | 83 | 13 | 102 | 9.1 | 3.4 | 0.9 | 5.6 | 0% | .288 | 1.39 | 4.58 | 3.76 | 110 | 5.90 | 122.1 |
1998 | BUF | AAA | INT | 4 | 4 | 16.0 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 23 | 7 | 18 | 5 | 12.9 | 3.9 | 2.8 | 10.1 | 0% | -.600 | 1.88 | 6.40 | 9.00 | 0 | 0.00 | 0.0 | |
1999 | CLE | MLB | AL | 26 | 22 | 115.0 | 3 | 4 | 0 | 127 | 67 | 88 | 18 | 107 | 9.9 | 5.2 | 1.4 | 6.9 | 0% | .311 | 1.69 | 5.68 | 6.26 | 123 | 7.87 | 153.0 |
1999 | AKR | AA | EAS | 1 | 1 | 3.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 9.0 | 3.0 | 0.0 | 6.0 | 0% | -1.000 | 1.33 | 2.93 | 3.00 | 0 | 0.00 | 0.0 | |
1999 | BUF | AAA | INT | 1 | 1 | 3.7 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 6 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 14.6 | 7.3 | 2.4 | 7.3 | 0% | -.625 | 2.43 | 8.56 | 2.43 | 0 | 0.00 | 0.0 | |
2000 | HOU | MLB | NL | 1 | 1 | 4.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 6 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 130 | 13.5 | 6.8 | 2.3 | 2.3 | 0% | .333 | 2.25 | 8.05 | 9.00 | 107 | 5.30 | 102.0 |
2000 | NYA | MLB | AL | 18 | 5 | 64.3 | 4 | 2 | 2 | 66 | 21 | 31 | 8 | 86 | 9.2 | 2.9 | 1.1 | 4.3 | 0% | .271 | 1.35 | 4.85 | 3.36 | 122 | 6.91 | 132.9 |
2000 | TBA | MLB | AL | 8 | 8 | 36.7 | 2 | 3 | 0 | 47 | 20 | 23 | 14 | 85 | 11.5 | 4.9 | 3.4 | 5.6 | 0% | .292 | 1.83 | 8.81 | 6.63 | 125 | 7.96 | 153.2 |
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Injury History — No longer being updated | Last Update: 12/31/2014 23:59 ET |
Date On | Date Off | Transaction | Days | Games | Side | Body Part | Injury | Severity | Surgery Date | Reaggravation |
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1999-08-03 | 1999-08-31 | 15-DL | 28 | 25 | Right | Shoulder | Strain | - | - | |
1998-10-27 | 1998-10-27 | Off | 0 | 0 | Right | Surgery | Inguinal Hernia | 1998-10-27 | - | |
1998-03-22 | 1998-05-22 | 15-DL | 61 | 45 | Right | Shoulder | Inflammation | Biceps | - | - |
1997-04-06 | 1997-06-14 | 15-DL | 69 | 60 | - | Surgery | Inguinal Hernia | 1997-04-14 | - | |
1994-04-22 | 1994-06-09 | 15-DL | 48 | 42 | Right | Fracture | Hairline | - | - | |
1992-07-17 | 1992-08-08 | 15-DL | 22 | 19 | Right | Shoulder | Inflammation | Rotator Cuff | - | - |
1991-08-23 | 1991-10-07 | 15-DL | 45 | 41 | Right | Shoulder | Surgery | Partial Rotator Cuff Tear and Labrum | 1991-09-08 | - |
1989-07-02 | 1989-09-13 | 60-DL | 73 | 68 | Right | Shoulder | Strain | - | - | |
1987-04-07 | 1987-06-05 | 60-DL | 59 | 50 | - | General Medical | Psychosocial | Drug Addition | - | - |
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2019 Preseason Forecast | Last Update: 1/27/2017 12:35 ET |
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Date | Question | Answer |
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2015-01-05 15:00:00 (link to chat) | What's it mean when a pitcher is called a "shortarmer"? (Callie Fornya from Ocean) | Short-armer or short arm action refers to the movement of the arm on the back end of a pitcher's mechanics, right after he breaks his hands out of the glove and takes the ball back. Keith Foulke was one of the best examples of a guy who had success with this type of arm action. Look at where his arm is here:
http://www.bestsportsphotos.com/images/PF/05FoulkeKeith01.jpg Compare that to this picture of Dwight Gooden: http://www.pitching.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/Mets-phenon-Dwight-Gooden-no-long-toss-no-weight-training.jpg (Jeff Moore) |
2013-07-02 13:00:00 (link to chat) | HOF-types Maddux, Glavine, Pedro, RJohnson and a few others all struggled in their first few major league seasons. How aberrant is to see the immediate success of recent young pitchers (such as Harvey, SMiller, and Fernandez this year and perhaps Kershaw, Lincecum, Felix, C.Sale and Straus in previous years)? Is it that "stuff" predominates, or the guys pick up sequencing earlier (whether on own or with team's "coaching")? (tullythomas from (Balt Memial Stadium Bleachers)) | Very good point about stuff dominating this era of high strikeout rates. That said, we're looking at a snapshot. Dwight Gooden was really good when he came up, you just don't mention him because we have the hindsight now not to include him in the HOF crop. There's a chance that at Luke Hochevar's induction, we'll say that he struggled early in his career too.
(Snark aside, I think it's probably what you said about pitchers coming up now with such good stuff.) (Zachary Levine) |
2013-03-08 13:00:00 (link to chat) | Any concern about Felix's elbow? Should I be concerned about him in fantasy this year? (Brian from Madison) | Hey Brian, I don't know that I have a specific concern about Felix other than his significant workload. The last three pitchers to log 1,600 innings by age 26 were Dwight Gooden, Fernando Valenzuela, and Frank Tanana. Those guys went on to have great careers, although not as great as people might have expected based on their earlier success. On the bright side, Bert Blyleven was the last before them (he had thrown 500 more innings than Felix by this point), and he ended up in the Hall of Fame. You never know with pitchers, but so far it seems like he's up to the task. (Geoff Young) |
2012-01-09 13:00:00 (link to chat) | Were you a little surprised that Kevin Brown got so little support last year on the ballot? I can't imagine a lot of people standing up for him in a veteran's committee meeting in future decades. (Brian from DC) | Brown, David Cone, Dwight Gooden and Orel Hershiser all had disconcertingly short stays on the ballot. I do think all of them will have at least some proponents in a VC-like panel situation, particularly because their postseason accomplishments will get closer looks.
Gooden's actually the strongest of those candidates. In fact - holy smokes, I just realized this - he's above the standard at 52.1/38.1/45.1, because he had 16.7 WARP through his first two seasons. (Jay Jaffe's Hall of Fame Special) |
2012-01-09 13:00:00 (link to chat) | If Morris does get in, should Rick Reuschel hit him with a steel chair during his acceptance speech and steal his plaque? (MrWorkrate from Raleigh, NC) | David Cone and Dwight Gooden have dibs. Reuschel is well below both of them now, actually more in Morris country, JAWSwise (again, because we moved away from an ERA/FIP-based driver). (Jay Jaffe's Hall of Fame Special) |
2011-10-31 13:00:00 (link to chat) | Steven--have you ever given thought to whom would comprise a Platonic ideal pitching rotation? Lots of guys are textbook #1s--Koufax, Maddux, Big Train, Bob Gibson, et al, but what about the rest? Is there such a thing as a quintessential #2? When you think of a #4 or a #5, who is it? (Jape from Portland) | It's fun to make lists and such, but this one is so wide open. Are we talking career or single season? If the latter, I would have guys like Ron Guidry '78 and Dwight Gooden '85 and other names that don't make the list of all-time greats. If we're talking about guys who were more than one-hit wonders, my list starts with Pedro Martinez and Lefty Grove. (Steven Goldman) |
2011-09-06 14:00:00 (link to chat) | With Strasburg back and Zimmerman in the fold am I crazy for thinking that a good lefty bat would make the Nationals contenders next year? (Steve N from Delaware) | How was the hurricane for you in Delaware? I hear a lot about SC, NY, NJ, VT, but not so much about Delaware... Does your lefty bat mean that Davey Johnson won't be leading off Ian Desmond and his .290 OBP? What's up with that? He used to be such a brilliant manager. Except for that whole letting Dwight Gooden pitch to Mike Scioscia in '88 thing... (Steven Goldman) |
2011-06-20 14:00:00 (link to chat) | Who's the most surprising player you can create a convincing HoF argument for? Triple-bonus points if his first name's "Tony" and his surname's "Fernandez". (JT from Exhibition Stadium) | Rick Reuschel does unusually well on the JAWS scale. Prior to Bert Blyleven's election, Big Daddy rated as the second-best eligible pitcher despite relatively unassuming raw numbers (214-191, 3.37 ERA, 3 All-Star apperaances, no Cy Young votes. Stayed very useful late into his career.
That said, I can make better *arguments* for guys like Orel Hershiser, David Cone and Dwight Gooden, all of whom fell just short of 200 wins but had Cy Youngs and rings to their credit. I can make a better argument for Kevin Brown, but it's hindered by his being named in the Mitchell Report, not to mention his 2004 postseason shame. (Jay Jaffe) |
2011-01-05 13:00:00 (link to chat) | Kevin Brown only got about 2% of the vote, and John Olerud got less than 1%. I know neither of them are clear choices...in fact, they're probably not Hall of Famers. But both are close enough that they deserved a few years of discussion, right? (John from Atlanta) | I agree, but the precedent with guys like David Cone, Dwight Gooden, Orel Hershiser and Will Clark going one and done on the ballot certainly suggested this was a possibility. (Jay Jaffe) |
2010-05-19 13:00:00 (link to chat) | Lost in all of the Big Z talk, is the bigger question of whether or not he is healthy. If he is indeed healthy, how do you explain the significant loss of velocity in the last couple of years? (Matt from Chicago) | It doesn't seem like he hasn't been available. His velocity has been pretty steady in the PFX era, so I dont think anything's changed. I think it's the effect of all the innings he had as a young pitcher, the same as Prior and Wood. The smoking analogy works here - Zambrano just started coughing later than the other two. PECOTA's on this one as I think the Dwight Gooden comp is really, really good. (Will Carroll) |
2009-06-08 14:00:00 (link to chat) | Regarding this Strausberg kid, we get it. He's the best ever. But when I think of highly touted pre-draft 'best ever pitchers', guys like Dwight Gooden, Mark Prior and Kerry Wood spring to mind more often then not (not to mention the Ben McDonalds of the world). Am I thinking too much glass-half-empty? Why is Strausberg going to be different? (Kubali Khan from Mongolia) | Followup: the Big Papi question is just begging for a Goldman treatment.
He hasn't failed yet. I'm not the guy to argue with about this. As much as I think the draft is incredibly unfair to players, there are no guarantees, and we know that even the successes in the category of "college stud starter," like Jered Weaver, often are less than superstars. You can look just in very recent years and see a Prior and question the hype. It's a fair point. (Joe Sheehan) |
2008-09-10 13:00:00 (link to chat) | I don't recall exactly when Eric Davis retired, and I have to acknowledge that his career numbers don't come close to HOF material. However, he stands out to this Reds fan as one of the most exciting players of his era, and I'll forever wonder what might have been had he stayed healthy. What's your top-5 list of "coulda shoulda" players? (BelongstotheReds from Seattle) | No joke, I got all verklempt when I wrote up Davis' blurb for a JAWS piece a couple years back. The man possessed the most electrifying speed/power combo to hit the majors between Willie Mays and Barry Bonds, period. What I wouldn't give to see him play at his peak again...
Davis and his childhood pal Darryl Strawberry make a good strat to a top five for the Hall of Should aWouldaCoulda, and you can't mention the straw without calling upon Dwight Gooden too. Add David Cone and Fernando Valenzuela and you've got an easy five from me, though I'm certain there are others I could include particularly from other eras. (Jay Jaffe) |
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2010-10-06 10:00:00 | 2010 Playoffs Day One | I imagine Seaver would have bumped Berenyi. The top four in '84 would have been Dwight Gooden, Ron Darling, Walt Terell, and Seaver, with Sid Fernandez in there somewhere... I know, I know... Your willing suspension of disbelief can't get past Terrell either. (Steven Goldman) |
2009-10-16 13:00:00 | NLCS Game Two/ALCS Game One | Tynan (Livermore, ME): Any chance of a getting a BP audio feed for any games in the future We'd love to, but to quote the great Dwight Gooden, "Hey Catfish, that's illegal." (Kevin Goldstein) |
2008-10-10 13:30:00 | Friday LCS | I know it's early and I shouldn't say this, but this game kind of reminds me of Game 5 of the 1986 NLCS, the one where Nolan Ryan and Dwight Gooden threw all those zeroes at each other... (Steven Goldman) |
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