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Portrait of David Wells

David Wells PBlue Jays

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Career Summary
Years G IP W L SV ERA WARP
25 660 3439 239 157 13 4.13 58.3
Birth Date5-20-1963
Height6' 3"
Weight187 lbs
Age56 years, 4 months, 29 days
BatsL
ThrowsL
WARP Summary

MLB Statistics

Historical (past-seasons) WARP is now based on DRA..
cFIP and DRA are not available on a by-team basis and display as zeroes(0). See TOT line for season totals of these stats.
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YEAR Team Lg G GS IP W L SV H BB SO HR PPF H/9 BB/9 HR/9 K/9 GB% BABIP WHIP FIP ERA cFIP DRA DRA- WARP
1987 TOR MLB 18 2 29.3 4 3 1 37 12 32 0 98 11.4 3.7 0.0 9.8 0% .420 1.67 1.90 3.99 80 3.16 66.3 0.7
1988 TOR MLB 41 0 64.3 3 5 4 65 31 56 12 102 9.1 4.3 1.7 7.8 0% .298 1.49 5.04 4.62 95 3.82 92.1 0.7
1989 TOR MLB 54 0 86.3 7 4 2 66 28 78 5 99 6.9 2.9 0.5 8.1 0% .253 1.09 2.76 2.40 78 2.74 66.1 2.1
1990 TOR MLB 43 25 189.0 11 6 3 165 45 115 14 102 7.9 2.1 0.7 5.5 0% .259 1.11 3.29 3.14 100 4.05 94.3 2.5
1991 TOR MLB 40 28 198.3 15 10 1 188 49 106 24 102 8.5 2.2 1.1 4.8 0% .260 1.19 4.18 3.72 109 4.69 108.6 1.2
1992 TOR MLB 41 14 120.0 7 9 2 138 36 62 16 102 10.4 2.7 1.2 4.7 0% .300 1.45 4.58 5.40 117 5.64 136.8 -1.1
1993 DET MLB 32 30 187.0 11 9 0 183 42 139 26 103 8.8 2.0 1.3 6.7 0% .279 1.20 4.09 4.19 92 3.59 77.4 4.2
1994 DET MLB 16 16 111.3 5 7 0 113 24 71 13 103 9.1 1.9 1.1 5.7 0% .282 1.23 4.13 3.96 101 4.56 91.9 1.7
1995 CIN 0 11 11 72.7 6 5 0 74 16 50 6 106 9.2 2.0 0.7 6.2 0% .298 1.24 3.42 3.59 88 3.65 74.7 1.8
1995 DET 0 18 18 130.3 10 3 0 120 37 83 17 102 8.3 2.6 1.2 5.7 0% .258 1.20 4.45 3.04 101 4.73 96.8 1.6
1996 BAL MLB 34 34 224.3 11 14 0 247 51 130 32 98 9.9 2.0 1.3 5.2 0% .296 1.33 4.71 5.14 101 5.11 100.9 2.4
1997 NYA MLB 32 32 218.0 16 10 0 239 45 156 24 96 9.9 1.9 1.0 6.4 0% .311 1.30 3.84 4.21 94 4.25 88.5 3.8
1998 NYA MLB 30 30 214.3 18 4 0 195 29 163 29 96 8.2 1.2 1.2 6.8 0% .264 1.05 3.87 3.49 86 3.12 64.7 6.5
1999 TOR MLB 34 34 231.7 17 10 0 246 62 169 32 101 9.6 2.4 1.2 6.6 0% .298 1.33 4.41 4.82 87 3.99 77.6 5.7
2000 TOR MLB 35 35 229.7 20 8 0 266 31 166 23 88 10.4 1.2 0.9 6.5 0% .327 1.29 3.58 4.11 80 3.57 68.6 6.6
2001 CHA MLB 16 16 100.7 5 7 0 120 21 59 12 101 10.7 1.9 1.1 5.3 0% .320 1.40 4.18 4.47 98 4.60 95.4 1.4
2002 NYA MLB 31 31 206.3 19 7 0 210 45 137 21 96 9.2 2.0 0.9 6.0 0% .284 1.24 3.77 3.75 92 3.82 82.1 4.1
2003 NYA MLB 31 30 213.0 15 7 0 242 20 101 24 99 10.2 0.8 1.0 4.3 0% .297 1.23 4.00 4.14 96 4.56 95.5 2.8
2004 SDN MLB 31 31 195.7 12 8 0 203 20 101 23 90 9.3 0.9 1.1 4.6 0% .274 1.14 3.78 3.73 89 3.41 70.3 5.1
2005 BOS MLB 30 30 184.0 15 7 0 220 21 107 21 106 10.8 1.0 1.0 5.2 0% .320 1.31 3.85 4.45 91 4.13 88.9 2.9
2006 BOS 0 8 8 47.0 2 3 0 64 8 24 10 105 12.3 1.5 1.9 4.6 0% .329 1.53 5.44 4.98 97 5.51 112.1 0.2
2006 SDN 0 5 5 28.3 1 2 0 33 4 14 1 85 10.5 1.3 0.3 4.4 0% .323 1.31 3.00 3.49 93 3.41 69.5 0.7
2007 LAN 0 7 7 38.7 4 1 0 45 9 19 5 98 10.5 2.1 1.2 4.4 0% .310 1.40 4.56 5.12 108 6.64 137.3 -0.4
2007 SDN 0 22 22 118.7 5 8 0 156 33 63 17 85 11.8 2.5 1.3 4.8 0% .334 1.59 4.88 5.54 101 4.79 99.0 1.3
1995 TOT MLB 29 29 203.0 16 8 0 194 53 133 23 103 8.6 2.3 1.0 5.9 0% .000 1.22 4.08 3.24 96 4.34 88.9 3.4
2006 TOT MLB 13 13 75.3 3 5 0 97 12 38 11 98 11.6 1.4 1.3 4.5 0% .000 1.45 4.52 4.42 96 4.72 96.1 0.9
2007 TOT MLB 29 29 157.3 9 9 0 201 42 82 22 88 11.5 2.4 1.3 4.7 0% .000 1.54 4.80 5.43 103 5.24 108.4 0.9
CareerMLB6604893439.02391571336357192201407989.51.91.15.845%.2931.274.024.13944.1788.158.3

Statistics for All Levels

'opp' stats - Quality of opponents faced - have been moved and are available only as OPP_QUAL in the Statistics reports now.
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YEAR Team Lg LG G GS IP W L SV H BB SO HR PPF H/9 BB/9 HR/9 K/9 GB% BABIP WHIP FIP ERA cFIP DRA DRA-
1982 MED Rk PIO 12 12 64.3 4 3 0 71 32 53 5 9.9 4.5 0.7 7.4 0% .000 1.60 4.52 5.18 0 0.00 0.0
1983 KIN A+ CRL 25 25 157.0 6 5 0 141 71 115 13 8.1 4.1 0.7 6.6 0% .000 1.35 4.08 3.73 0 0.00 0.0
1984 KIN A+ CRL 7 7 42.0 1 6 0 51 19 44 1 10.9 4.1 0.2 9.4 0% .000 1.67 2.53 4.71 0 0.00 0.0
1984 KNX AA SOU 8 8 59.0 3 2 0 58 17 34 3 8.8 2.6 0.5 5.2 0% .000 1.27 2.92 2.59 0 0.00 0.0
1986 FLO A SAL 4 1 12.7 0 0 0 7 9 14 1 5.0 6.4 0.7 9.9 0% .000 1.26 4.00 3.54 0 0.00 0.0
1986 VEN A+ CLF 5 2 19.0 2 1 0 13 4 26 0 6.2 1.9 0.0 12.3 0% .000 0.89 1.21 1.89 0 0.00 0.0
1986 KNX AA SOU 10 7 40.0 1 3 0 42 18 32 1 9.5 4.1 0.2 7.2 0% .000 1.50 3.03 4.05 0 0.00 0.0
1986 SYR AAA INT 3 0 3.7 0 1 0 6 1 2 0 14.6 2.4 0.0 4.9 0% .000 1.89 2.36 9.73 0 0.00 0.0
1987 TOR MLB AL 18 2 29.3 4 3 1 37 12 32 0 98 11.4 3.7 0.0 9.8 0% .420 1.67 1.90 3.99 80 3.16 66.3
1987 SYR AAA INT 43 12 109.3 4 6 6 102 32 106 9 8.4 2.6 0.7 8.7 0% .000 1.23 2.93 3.87 0 0.00 0.0
1988 TOR MLB AL 41 0 64.3 3 5 4 65 31 56 12 102 9.1 4.3 1.7 7.8 0% .298 1.49 5.04 4.62 95 3.82 92.1
1988 SYR AAA INT 6 0 5.7 0 0 3 7 2 8 0 11.1 3.2 0.0 12.6 0% .000 1.58 1.11 0.00 0 0.00 0.0
1989 TOR MLB AL 54 0 86.3 7 4 2 66 28 78 5 99 6.9 2.9 0.5 8.1 0% .253 1.09 2.76 2.40 78 2.74 66.1
1990 TOR MLB AL 43 25 189.0 11 6 3 165 45 115 14 102 7.9 2.1 0.7 5.5 0% .259 1.11 3.29 3.14 100 4.05 94.3
1991 TOR MLB AL 40 28 198.3 15 10 1 188 49 106 24 102 8.5 2.2 1.1 4.8 0% .260 1.19 4.18 3.72 109 4.69 108.6
1992 TOR MLB AL 41 14 120.0 7 9 2 138 36 62 16 102 10.4 2.7 1.2 4.7 0% .300 1.45 4.58 5.40 117 5.64 136.8
1993 DET MLB AL 32 30 187.0 11 9 0 183 42 139 26 103 8.8 2.0 1.3 6.7 0% .279 1.20 4.09 4.19 92 3.59 77.4
1994 DET MLB AL 16 16 111.3 5 7 0 113 24 71 13 103 9.1 1.9 1.1 5.7 0% .282 1.23 4.13 3.96 101 4.56 91.9
1994 LAK A+ FSL 2 2 6.0 0 0 0 5 0 3 0 7.5 0.0 0.0 4.5 0% .000 0.83 2.19 0.00 0 0.00 0.0
1995 CIN MLB NL 11 11 72.7 6 5 0 74 16 50 6 106 9.2 2.0 0.7 6.2 0% .298 1.24 3.42 3.59 88 3.65 74.7
1995 DET MLB AL 18 18 130.3 10 3 0 120 37 83 17 102 8.3 2.6 1.2 5.7 0% .258 1.20 4.45 3.04 101 4.73 96.8
1996 BAL MLB AL 34 34 224.3 11 14 0 247 51 130 32 98 9.9 2.0 1.3 5.2 0% .296 1.33 4.71 5.14 101 5.11 100.9
1997 NYA MLB AL 32 32 218.0 16 10 0 239 45 156 24 96 9.9 1.9 1.0 6.4 0% .311 1.30 3.84 4.21 94 4.25 88.5
1998 NYA MLB AL 30 30 214.3 18 4 0 195 29 163 29 96 8.2 1.2 1.2 6.8 0% .264 1.05 3.87 3.49 86 3.12 64.7
1999 TOR MLB AL 34 34 231.7 17 10 0 246 62 169 32 101 9.6 2.4 1.2 6.6 0% .298 1.33 4.41 4.82 87 3.99 77.6
2000 TOR MLB AL 35 35 229.7 20 8 0 266 31 166 23 88 10.4 1.2 0.9 6.5 0% .327 1.29 3.58 4.11 80 3.57 68.6
2001 CHA MLB AL 16 16 100.7 5 7 0 120 21 59 12 101 10.7 1.9 1.1 5.3 0% .320 1.40 4.18 4.47 98 4.60 95.4
2002 NYA MLB AL 31 31 206.3 19 7 0 210 45 137 21 96 9.2 2.0 0.9 6.0 0% .284 1.24 3.77 3.75 92 3.82 82.1
2003 NYA MLB AL 31 30 213.0 15 7 0 242 20 101 24 99 10.2 0.8 1.0 4.3 0% .297 1.23 4.00 4.14 96 4.56 95.5
2004 SDN MLB NL 31 31 195.7 12 8 0 203 20 101 23 90 9.3 0.9 1.1 4.6 0% .274 1.14 3.78 3.73 89 3.41 70.3
2005 BOS MLB AL 30 30 184.0 15 7 0 220 21 107 21 106 10.8 1.0 1.0 5.2 0% .320 1.31 3.85 4.45 91 4.13 88.9
2006 BOS MLB AL 8 8 47.0 2 3 0 64 8 24 10 105 12.3 1.5 1.9 4.6 0% .329 1.53 5.44 4.98 97 5.51 112.1
2006 SDN MLB NL 5 5 28.3 1 2 0 33 4 14 1 85 10.5 1.3 0.3 4.4 0% .323 1.31 3.00 3.49 93 3.41 69.5
2006 PAW AAA INT 2 2 10.2 1 1 0 10 4 4 2 92 8.8 3.5 1.8 3.5 0% .242 1.37 6.31 7.94 130 5.17 108.6
2007 LAN MLB NL 7 7 38.7 4 1 0 45 9 19 5 98 10.5 2.1 1.2 4.4 0% .310 1.40 4.56 5.12 108 6.64 137.3
2007 SDN MLB NL 22 22 118.7 5 8 0 156 33 63 17 85 11.8 2.5 1.3 4.8 0% .334 1.59 4.88 5.54 101 4.79 99.0

Plate Discipline

YEAR Pits Zone% Swing% Contact% Z-Swing% O-Swing% Z-Contact% O-Contact% SwStr%

Injury History  —  No longer being updated

Last Update: 12/31/2014 23:59 ET

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
2006-05-27 2006-07-31 15-DL 65 57 Right Knee Contusion -
2006-04-12 2006-05-26 15-DL 44 38 Right Knee Sprain -
2006-03-28 2006-04-12 15-DL 15 7 Right Knee Recovery From Surgery -
2005-04-26 2005-05-18 15-DL 22 19 Right Foot Sprain -
2004-05-17 2004-06-07 15-DL 21 18 Bilateral Hand Laceration -
2003-12-03 2003-12-03 Off 0 0 - Low Back Surgery Disc Injury 2003-12-03 -
2002-05-17 2002-05-25 DTD 8 8 - Low Back Strain - -
2001-06-29 2001-10-08 60-DL 101 87 - Low Back Surgery Disc Injury 2001-07-17 -
1999-09-15 1999-09-21 DTD 6 4 Right Inflammation Gout Big Toe - -
1999-08-30 1999-08-30 DTD 0 0 Left Shoulder Tightness - -
1999-08-09 1999-08-18 DTD 9 9 - Low Back Stiffness - -
1998-07-13 1998-07-20 DTD 7 7 - Ingrown Nail - -
1996-05-07 1996-05-20 DTD 13 11 Right Inflammation Bursitis Big Toe - -
1994-04-16 1994-06-07 15-DL 52 44 Left Elbow Surgery Bone Chips 1994-04-20 -
1993-08-01 1993-08-20 15-DL 19 18 Left Elbow Inflammation - -
1991-08-15 1991-08-24 DTD 9 8 Left Arm Fatigue - -
1988-07-17 1988-08-13 Minors 27 0 Left Arm Inflammation Date Is Estimated - -
1986-07-07 1986-08-20 Minors 44 0 Left Shoulder Inflammation Tendonitis - -
1985-04-01 1985-09-10 Minors 162 0 Left Elbow Surgery Tommy John Surgery 1985-04-10 -
1984-06-28 1984-09-10 Minors 74 0 Left Elbow Soreness - -

Compensation

Year Team Salary
2007 SDN $3,000,000
2006 BOS $4,075,000
2005 BOS $4,075,000
2004 SDN $1,250,000
2003 NYA $3,250,000
2002 NYA $2,250,000
2001 CHA $9,250,000
2000 TOR $5,500,000
YearsDescriptionSalary
8 yrPrevious$32,650,000
8 yrTotal$32,650,000

 

Service TimeAgentContract Status
20 y 19 dGregg Clifton

Details
  • signed as a free agent from SD 8/23/07 (LAD pays $80K of c$1M left in 07)
  • released 8/16/07
  • designated for assignment 8/9/07
  • re-signed as a free agent 1/07, 1 year/$3M (07)+b
  • $1M roster bonus
  • $3M performance bonus (games started 11-27)
  • acquired in trade from BOS 8/06
  • signed as a free agent from SD 12/04, 2 year/$8M (05-06), $3M signing bonus, 05:$2.5M, 06:$2.5M
  • additional $10M bonuses ($0.2M for 11-20 games started, $0.3M for 21-30 games started)
  • signed as a free agent from SD 12/04
  • signed as a free agent from NYY 12/03, 1 year/$1.25M+bonuses to $6M (04) (achieved $4.75M in bonuses for 31 games started)
  • NYY declined $6M club option 11/03 (pd $1M buyout)
  • additional $4M/year for 30 games started 02-03
  • 2 year/$7M (02-03)+04 club option
  • $2M (02), $3M (03), $6M 04 opt/$1M buyout
  • $8.25M (01), $9M 02 opt/$1.25M buyout (CWS decl)
  • 02:$135K for every start after 5
  • $135K for 7th games started in 02 (& additional $135K for each of games started 8-12) $182,200 for every GP after 17th start

2019 Preseason Forecast

Last Update: 1/27/2017 12:35 ET

PCT W L SV G GS IP H BB SO HR BABIP WHIP ERA DRA VORP WARP
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Comparable Players (Similarity Index )

Rank Score Name Year Run Average Trend

BP Annual Player Comments

YearComment
2008 Boomer's late-2006 trade to from Boston to San Diego's more favorable environs-hometown team, spacious ballpark, easier league, mellower media-appeared to give Wells a new lease on life. Back in the sand last year, he was a league-average inning muncher through mid-July, making nine quality starts out of 18 for a 4.15 ERA. Then four consecutive bombings convinced the Padres that he was done. Wells conceded the possibility, but after a few weeks of rest and rehab, re-emerged as a Dodger and pitched better than his ERA would indicate (though his two bad starts in blue came during the seven-game skid that quashed the team's postseason hopes). A full year of Wells is probably out of the question, but a budget version of Roger Clemens' typical midseason return could help somebody. He's indicated that he'll retire, but then so did Clemens.
2007 Boomer`s hefty lefty-ness and goofball charm no doubt helped him win friends and influence people in ways Denny Neagle probably should have taken notes on. Still, Wells has moved into the purely mercenary phase of a certain kind of veteran`s career, in which, with the right enticements, he`ll agree to be part of a big-name ensemble cast so that he can still be seen with the right sorts of people. Call it the Shelley Winters career path. Wells insisted he was retiring at the end of the 2006 season, but he`s being wooed with an incentive-laden deal to pitch for his hometown Pads in 2007. He seems to be listening, and he probably should. In uniform, he`s a quirky celebrity. Out of uniform, he`s one of a million unkempt fat guys.
2006 Like the entire rotation, Wells was a league-average pitcher who usually kept the team in games. With this offense, it`s a great recipe for success if you have a good bullpen - which the Red Sox did not. At his request, he was ticketed to move on again this winter, but at press time he was still lodged in Beantown. Maybe the Red Sox balked at paying for oversize shipping.
2005 He ambles around the mound, his belly bulging under his baggy uniform, jersey flapping behind him, untucked and disheveled. As he wipes the sweat from his brow and squints in at the sign, he looks like he'd rather throw down beers than throw to a big league hitter. But when David Wells delivers his sweeping curve or darting fastball, he does so with a surgeon's precision. The Padres did well to patch the rotation with Woody Williams and Darrell May, but they'll still miss Boomer now that he's a Red Sock. His age and health aside, Wells' success in Boston will depend largely on his ability the keep the ball on the ground: His 1.51 GB/FB rate last year was a career high, and either a sign of Wells making a valuable adjustment or a fluke that portends more flyballs in '05, many of them over the Monster.
2004 For the second time in three winters, Wells broke an agreement with one team to sign with another. This time, it was the Yankees left holding the bag, as Wells returned to his boyhood home in San Diego on a one-year deal for less than $2 million. It's not a good pairing; Wells throws strikes and relies on his defense, and the Padres may have the worst collective range in the NL, certainly in the outfield. That table season for Boomer.
2003 The good news is that baseball’s most famous gouty pitcher showed that 2001 was not the beginning of the end. As he’s lost velocity, he’s learned to adapt and rely more heavily on a cutter. Most of all, he gave the Yankees something they needed, a guy who could take the ball just about every fifth day and give the league’s best offense a shot at a win. He should give them that in the last year of his deal as well, after which the Yankees can stop whistling past the graveyard. Was anyone else bemused by the idea that Brian Cashman had to give Wells the talking-to after Wells lost a couple of teeth in the diner slug-and-run incident? What’s next, Orrin Hatch lecturing Nick Nolte on how to stay on the straight and narrow? “Behave yourself. It works for me.”
2002 Wells's weight finally reached the point where it ruined a season for him, contributing to back problems that eventually required surgery. He's apparently healthy and down about 20 pounds, impressive enough for the Yankees to give him a two-year contract. He's 39, still overweight, and has back problems. Wells is not likely to be both effective and healthy; which of the two he's more likely to be is something we won't know until March.
2001 David Wells has reached a point where he just doesn't walk people, and that's the kind of skill that makes it possible to lead the league in hits allowed and still have a good year. The idea that he's an ace is the product of a couple of good run-support years recently, mixed in with his ability to munch innings. At age 38 with a waist to match, he's a bad risk.
2000 Wells declined from his career-year 1998 back to his normal level of performance. He’s a tough call: his age and weight would seem to make him a risk, but his pitch counts are reasonable thanks to his control. His strikeout rates have been constant and he doesn’t miss starts. I expect one more year at around his 1997 level of performance with about 50 fewer innings, then a sharp decline that’s going to look very bad.
1999 The most popular baseball player in New York since the Dwight Gooden/Don Mattingly peak in the mid-1980s. On the mound, Wells has become a power/control pitcher, a deadly combination. Not as much of a flyball pitcher as you'd think, given his penchant for working up in the zone. When he goes bad, he's going to go quickly. A good chance he'll be a terrible free agent signing for someone after the season.
1998 Wells gets a lot of attention for his antics, which hide the fact that he’s become a pretty good pitcher. He’s got a good, hard fastball with movement and he pitches inside to everyone. His style makes him fun to watch, but also means that once he loses a little more off the fastball, he could get hammered. He’s at the age it could happen. Maybe one more good year. Maybe.
1997 Wells proved to be a disappointment for the Orioles, struggling for most of the season trying to find a groove. It wasn’t as bad as people think—the AL of 1996 makes pitching stats difficult to compare with prior seasons—but it does add to the Orioles’ pitcher paranoia.
1996  He doesn't look particularly impressive on the mound; none of his pitches are especially good. Has had problems staying healthy for two years in a row, and after pitching 200 innings last year that is not an encouraging signal.

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BP Chats

DateQuestionAnswer
2010-10-20 13:00:00 (link to chat)Are you also getting a "David Wells, Game 4 2002 ALDS" vibe about CC today?
(DrManhattan from NYC)
Now that you mention it... (Steven Goldman)
2010-10-25 13:00:00 (link to chat)Jeff Fesaro (Alou's '93 Expos) and David Wells (Gaston's '90 Blue Jays) had successful conversions to starter, but that strategy didn't catch on then.
(hotstatrat from Toronto)
Sure, but that was also when the usage-pattern perversions of the La Russian over-scripted bullpen were setting their tendrils into the industry. And remember, Wells didn't really seem to stick and get taken seriously as a quality starter until he went to Detroit. (Christina Kahrl)
2010-09-29 13:00:00 (link to chat)If you're Joe Girardi, how do you order the Yanks' rotation in the playoffs?
(Chris from Missouri)
Sabathia, Hughes, er, Pettitte, um...can David Wells get out of his contract with TBS? Is Orlando Hernandez available? He pitched at Double-A this year! This could get ugly. (Ben Lindbergh)
2009-05-21 14:00:00 (link to chat)Joe, with Brad Pitt signed on to play Billy Bean in the movie version of "Moneyball", does that mean he won't be available to play you in the off-Broadway version of "BP"? Is the fallback Gilbert Gottfried??
(Tim from DC)
I love that casting. I presume this means I have a shot to play Tim Hudson. What's Billy, eight inches taller than Pitt?

Wrong Billy Bean(e), by the way.

I'm pretty sure Paul Giamatti or Jason Alexander plays me in the movie. Carrot Top goes all Brando to play Young Gary, David Wells makes his theatrical debut as Will, and Cate Blanchett plays Christina. I'll stop there. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-01-07 13:00:00 (link to chat)I read a Buster Olney article today saying that Andruw Jones is a borderline HOF candidate, which I think is a defensible position. I was just curious about your opinion on this - what the heck happened to the guy?
(Ameer from Bloomington, IN)
Some guys just fall off the cliff. Conditioning? Something off-field? Some have suggested PEDs, but I've seen no evidence for that. There are so many factors we don't know about people. David Wells once pitched well and when asked why, he said "I don't know. Had a really good cheeseburger for lunch." There's a lot of cheeseburgers out there, things we don't know -- relationship? hotel bed? new child who doesn't sleep through the night? (Will Carroll)
2008-09-10 13:00:00 (link to chat)In the CouldaWouldaShoulda HOF, David Wells needs to be in the discussion, partially because of his own poor conditioning, but partially because he stupidly wasn't given a full-time spot in a rotation until he was 30 years old. I know sabermatricians devalue wins, but even given THAT, he still went 239-157 for his career. It's not hard to argue that with better managing and fewer cheeseburgers, he would have had a better career than Mike Mussina.
(Razz from New York, NY)
Regarding his conditioning, it certainly hasn't been much of a detriment - the guy's stellar K/BB ratios testify to his ability to repeat his motion despite his ever-increasing girth, at least up to his age 42 season. I see no reason to make allowances one way or the other for his conditioning when considering his Hall of Fame case except to marvel at what he did accomplish.

You're on more solid ground regarding his use pattern, though it's also worth noting he had TJ surgery in 1985 and shoulder surgery in '86), so his durability wasn't exactly a known commodity early in his career. But he still can't come close to touching the Moose, value-wise, because of his put-it-in-play style of pitching versus Mussina's high strikeout rates. Mussina has about a 30-WARP edge because of that. (Jay Jaffe)
2008-05-30 13:00:00 (link to chat)Bartolo Colon. Unlikely to stay healthy? Back and a bad man? Good for a dozen or so above average starts? What's your expectation?
(Nater1177 from Philly)
I'm intentionally keeping my expectations so low you need a shovel to find them, solely to avoid disappointment. He doesn't fit the fat man role the same way Rich Garces and David Wells used to. I need to see more fun out of my fat pitchers. (Marc Normandin)
2008-03-14 13:00:00 (link to chat)What do you think of Mike Mussina saying that he has never really worked out in the offseason and that this year he really did for the first time? What are the chances that since he's such a smart player, and his body may be in better shape than it was over the last few seasons, that he can be an effective starter?
(Charlie from Washington, DC)
I think there's a better chance than if we were talking about David Wells or someone like that, but Mussina's velocity has dropped off so severely that unless he really has something new and unexpected to show the batters, I worry that all his intelligence and exercise may come to naught. I'm open to being proved wrong, natch. Heck, I'd like to be proved wrong. (Steven Goldman)


BP Roundtables

DateRoundtable NameComment
2010-10-06 10:00:002010 Playoffs Day OneLove that David Wells unbuttoned the top button under his tie. (Ben Lindbergh)
 

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