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Career Summary
Years G IP W L SV ERA WARP
28 696 4074 269 209 0 4.25 63
Birth Date11-18-1962
Height6' 0"
Weight170 lbs
Age55 years, 9 months, 1 days
BatsL
ThrowsL
WARP Summary

MLB Statistics

Historical (past-seasons) WARP is now based on DRA..
cFIP and DRA are not available on a by-team basis and display as zeroes(0). See TOT line for season totals of these stats.
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YEAR Team Lg G GS IP W L SV H BB SO HR oppTAv PPF H/9 BB/9 HR/9 K/9 GB% BABIP TAv WHIP FIP ERA cFIP DRA DRA- WARP
1986 CHN MLB 16 16 87.3 7 4 0 107 42 45 10 .259 111 11.0 4.3 1.0 4.6 58% .329 .281 1.71 4.74 5.05 114 7.62 172.1 -2.3
1987 CHN MLB 35 33 201.0 12 15 0 210 97 147 28 .255 107 9.4 4.3 1.3 6.6 53% .293 .267 1.53 4.73 5.10 102 4.76 100.0 2.3
1988 CHN MLB 34 30 202.0 9 15 0 212 55 121 20 .251 103 9.4 2.5 0.9 5.4 53% .293 .262 1.32 3.67 3.48 92 3.52 84.9 3.6
1989 TEX MLB 15 15 76.0 4 9 0 84 33 44 10 .263 102 9.9 3.9 1.2 5.2 45% .298 .295 1.54 4.78 4.86 106 5.59 134.5 -0.5
1990 TEX MLB 33 10 102.3 2 6 0 115 39 58 6 .265 104 10.1 3.4 0.5 5.1 44% .321 .279 1.50 3.69 4.66 103 4.32 100.6 0.9
1991 SLN MLB 8 7 31.3 0 5 0 38 16 20 5 .253 97 10.9 4.6 1.4 5.7 46% .330 .328 1.72 5.21 5.74 110 5.63 130.3 -0.1
1993 BAL MLB 25 25 152.0 12 9 0 154 38 90 11 .260 101 9.1 2.2 0.7 5.3 52% .295 .237 1.26 3.61 3.43 90 3.73 80.5 3.2
1994 BAL MLB 23 23 149.0 5 7 0 158 38 87 23 .265 100 9.5 2.3 1.4 5.3 43% .281 .254 1.32 4.84 4.77 98 3.82 77.1 3.4
1995 BAL MLB 27 18 115.7 8 6 0 117 30 65 18 .266 99 9.1 2.3 1.4 5.1 47% .270 .252 1.27 4.89 5.21 100 4.26 87.3 2.0
1996 BOS 0 23 10 90.0 7 1 0 111 27 50 14 .265 105 11.1 2.7 1.4 5.0 47% .310 .270 1.53 5.09 4.50 105 5.16 101.8 0.8
1996 SEA 0 11 11 70.7 6 2 0 66 19 29 9 .274 102 8.4 2.4 1.1 3.7 42% .237 .239 1.20 4.92 3.31 106 5.03 99.3 0.7
1997 SEA MLB 30 30 188.7 17 5 0 187 43 113 21 .261 101 8.9 2.1 1.0 5.4 46% .275 .231 1.22 4.18 3.86 95 3.92 81.5 4.0
1998 SEA MLB 34 34 234.3 15 9 0 234 42 158 23 .263 99 9.0 1.6 0.9 6.1 45% .285 .242 1.18 3.81 3.53 84 2.99 61.9 7.4
1999 SEA MLB 32 32 228.0 14 8 0 235 48 137 23 .261 98 9.3 1.9 0.9 5.4 43% .291 .239 1.24 4.05 3.87 90 3.59 69.8 6.5
2000 SEA MLB 26 26 154.0 13 10 0 173 53 98 22 .261 89 10.1 3.1 1.3 5.7 54% .301 .271 1.47 4.89 5.49 99 4.33 83.4 3.2
2001 SEA MLB 33 33 209.7 20 6 0 187 44 119 24 .263 96 8.0 1.9 1.0 5.1 44% .249 .230 1.10 4.22 3.43 98 3.95 81.8 4.3
2002 SEA MLB 34 34 230.7 13 8 0 198 50 147 28 .265 94 7.7 2.0 1.1 5.7 44% .244 .230 1.08 4.12 3.32 93 3.27 70.2 6.0
2003 SEA MLB 33 33 215.0 21 7 0 199 66 129 19 .261 98 8.3 2.8 0.8 5.4 40% .267 .239 1.23 4.07 3.27 97 4.32 90.5 3.4
2004 SEA MLB 34 33 202.0 7 13 0 217 63 125 44 .263 101 9.7 2.8 2.0 5.6 41% .268 .274 1.39 5.84 5.21 106 4.70 97.1 2.4
2005 SEA MLB 32 32 200.0 13 7 0 225 52 102 23 .262 96 10.1 2.3 1.0 4.6 38% .296 .275 1.39 4.42 4.28 102 4.88 105.0 1.4
2006 PHI 0 8 8 51.3 5 2 0 49 7 26 8 .264 96 8.6 1.2 1.4 4.6 50% .248 .250 1.09 4.64 4.03 106 4.33 88.2 0.8
2006 SEA 0 25 25 160.0 6 12 0 179 44 82 25 .259 99 10.1 2.5 1.4 4.6 39% .290 .275 1.39 5.07 4.39 103 4.26 86.7 2.7
2007 PHI MLB 33 33 199.3 14 12 0 222 66 133 30 .256 103 10.0 3.0 1.4 6.0 42% .303 .272 1.44 4.86 5.01 98 3.95 81.7 3.9
2008 PHI MLB 33 33 196.3 16 7 0 199 62 123 20 .261 98 9.1 2.8 0.9 5.6 45% .286 .255 1.33 4.28 3.71 104 5.33 113.6 0.5
2009 PHI MLB 30 25 162.0 12 10 0 177 43 94 27 .260 97 9.8 2.4 1.5 5.2 42% .286 .272 1.36 5.04 4.94 113 6.09 130.6 -1.0
2010 PHI MLB 19 19 111.7 9 9 0 103 20 63 20 .262 95 8.3 1.6 1.6 5.1 46% .236 .255 1.10 4.99 4.84 109 4.52 102.0 1.0
2012 COL MLB 10 10 53.7 2 5 0 75 18 36 11 .249 119 12.6 3.0 1.8 6.0 46% .342 .319 1.73 5.57 5.70 106 6.44 147.7 -0.8
1996 TOT MLB 34 21 160.7 13 3 0 177 46 79 23 .269 104 9.9 2.6 1.3 4.4 45% .278 .257 1.39 5.01 3.98 106 5.10 100.7 1.5
2006 TOT MLB 33 33 211.3 11 14 0 228 51 108 33 .260 98 9.7 2.2 1.4 4.6 41% .280 .269 1.32 4.97 4.30 104 4.27 87.1 3.5
CareerMLB6966384074.02692090423111552441522.2611009.32.61.25.445%.283.2581.324.504.25994.2990.863.0

Statistics for All Levels

'opp' stats - Quality of opponents faced - have been moved and are available only as OPP_QUAL in the Statistics reports now.
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YEAR Team Lg G GS IP W L SV H BB SO HR oppTAv PPF H/9 BB/9 HR/9 K/9 GB% BABIP TAv WHIP FIP ERA cFIP DRA DRA-
1984 WPT A- 14 14 104.7 9 3 0 59 31 120 5 .000 5.1 2.7 0.4 10.3 0% .000 .000 0.86 2.23 1.89 0 0.00 0.0
1985 WNS A+ 12 12 94.0 8 2 0 82 22 94 1 .000 7.9 2.1 0.1 9.0 0% .000 .000 1.11 1.94 2.30 0 0.00 0.0
1985 PTS AA 15 15 96.7 7 6 0 99 32 51 4 .000 9.2 3.0 0.4 4.7 0% .000 .000 1.35 3.19 3.72 0 0.00 0.0
1986 CHN MLB 16 16 87.3 7 4 0 107 42 45 10 .259 111 11.0 4.3 1.0 4.6 58% .329 .281 1.71 4.74 5.05 114 7.62 172.1
1986 PTS AA 6 6 41.0 3 1 0 27 16 42 2 .000 5.9 3.5 0.4 9.2 0% .000 .000 1.05 2.46 0.88 0 0.00 0.0
1986 IOW AAA 6 6 42.3 3 2 0 25 11 25 2 .000 5.3 2.3 0.4 5.3 0% .000 .000 0.85 3.27 2.55 0 0.00 0.0
1987 CHN MLB 35 33 201.0 12 15 0 210 97 147 28 .255 107 9.4 4.3 1.3 6.6 53% .293 .267 1.53 4.73 5.10 102 4.76 100.0
1988 CHN MLB 34 30 202.0 9 15 0 212 55 121 20 .251 103 9.4 2.5 0.9 5.4 53% .293 .262 1.32 3.67 3.48 92 3.52 84.9
1989 TEX MLB 15 15 76.0 4 9 0 84 33 44 10 .263 102 9.9 3.9 1.2 5.2 45% .298 .295 1.54 4.78 4.86 106 5.59 134.5
1989 TUL AA 2 2 12.3 1 1 0 16 3 9 1 .000 11.7 2.2 0.7 6.6 0% .000 .000 1.54 3.68 5.12 0 0.00 0.0
1990 TEX MLB 33 10 102.3 2 6 0 115 39 58 6 .265 104 10.1 3.4 0.5 5.1 44% .321 .279 1.50 3.69 4.66 103 4.32 100.6
1991 SLN MLB 8 7 31.3 0 5 0 38 16 20 5 .253 97 10.9 4.6 1.4 5.7 46% .330 .328 1.72 5.21 5.74 110 5.63 130.3
1991 LOU AAA 20 20 125.7 5 10 0 125 43 69 16 .000 8.9 3.1 1.1 4.9 0% .000 .000 1.34 4.71 3.79 0 0.00 0.0
1992 TOL AAA 21 20 138.7 10 8 0 128 37 80 8 .000 8.3 2.4 0.5 5.2 0% .000 .000 1.19 3.48 2.86 0 0.00 0.0
1993 BAL MLB 25 25 152.0 12 9 0 154 38 90 11 .260 101 9.1 2.2 0.7 5.3 52% .295 .237 1.26 3.61 3.43 90 3.73 80.5
1993 ROC AAA 8 8 54.0 6 0 0 42 13 41 2 .000 7.0 2.2 0.3 6.8 0% .000 .000 1.02 2.87 1.67 0 0.00 0.0
1994 BAL MLB 23 23 149.0 5 7 0 158 38 87 23 .265 100 9.5 2.3 1.4 5.3 43% .281 .254 1.32 4.84 4.77 98 3.82 77.1
1995 BAL MLB 27 18 115.7 8 6 0 117 30 65 18 .266 99 9.1 2.3 1.4 5.1 47% .270 .252 1.27 4.89 5.21 100 4.26 87.3
1996 BOS MLB 23 10 90.0 7 1 0 111 27 50 14 .265 105 11.1 2.7 1.4 5.0 47% .310 .270 1.53 5.09 4.50 105 5.16 101.8
1996 SEA MLB 11 11 70.7 6 2 0 66 19 29 9 .274 102 8.4 2.4 1.1 3.7 42% .237 .239 1.20 4.92 3.31 106 5.03 99.3
1997 SEA MLB 30 30 188.7 17 5 0 187 43 113 21 .261 101 8.9 2.1 1.0 5.4 46% .275 .231 1.22 4.18 3.86 95 3.92 81.5
1997 TAC AAA 1 1 5.0 1 0 0 1 0 6 0 .000 1.8 0.0 0.0 10.8 0% .100 .000 0.20 1.47 0.00 0 0.00 0.0
1998 SEA MLB 34 34 234.3 15 9 0 234 42 158 23 .263 99 9.0 1.6 0.9 6.1 45% .285 .242 1.18 3.81 3.53 84 2.99 61.9
1999 SEA MLB 32 32 228.0 14 8 0 235 48 137 23 .261 98 9.3 1.9 0.9 5.4 43% .291 .239 1.24 4.05 3.87 90 3.59 69.8
2000 SEA MLB 26 26 154.0 13 10 0 173 53 98 22 .261 89 10.1 3.1 1.3 5.7 54% .301 .271 1.47 4.89 5.49 99 4.33 83.4
2001 SEA MLB 33 33 209.7 20 6 0 187 44 119 24 .263 96 8.0 1.9 1.0 5.1 44% .249 .230 1.10 4.22 3.43 98 3.95 81.8
2002 SEA MLB 34 34 230.7 13 8 0 198 50 147 28 .265 94 7.7 2.0 1.1 5.7 44% .244 .230 1.08 4.12 3.32 93 3.27 70.2
2003 SEA MLB 33 33 215.0 21 7 0 199 66 129 19 .261 98 8.3 2.8 0.8 5.4 40% .267 .239 1.23 4.07 3.27 97 4.32 90.5
2004 SEA MLB 34 33 202.0 7 13 0 217 63 125 44 .263 101 9.7 2.8 2.0 5.6 41% .268 .274 1.39 5.84 5.21 106 4.70 97.1
2005 SEA MLB 32 32 200.0 13 7 0 225 52 102 23 .262 96 10.1 2.3 1.0 4.6 38% .296 .275 1.39 4.42 4.28 102 4.88 105.0
2006 PHI MLB 8 8 51.3 5 2 0 49 7 26 8 .264 96 8.6 1.2 1.4 4.6 50% .248 .250 1.09 4.64 4.03 106 4.33 88.2
2006 SEA MLB 25 25 160.0 6 12 0 179 44 82 25 .259 99 10.1 2.5 1.4 4.6 39% .290 .275 1.39 5.07 4.39 103 4.26 86.7
2007 PHI MLB 33 33 199.3 14 12 0 222 66 133 30 .256 103 10.0 3.0 1.4 6.0 42% .303 .272 1.44 4.86 5.01 98 3.95 81.7
2008 PHI MLB 33 33 196.3 16 7 0 199 62 123 20 .261 98 9.1 2.8 0.9 5.6 45% .286 .255 1.33 4.28 3.71 104 5.33 113.6
2009 PHI MLB 30 25 162.0 12 10 0 177 43 94 27 .260 97 9.8 2.4 1.5 5.2 42% .286 .272 1.36 5.04 4.94 113 6.09 130.6
2010 PHI MLB 19 19 111.7 9 9 0 103 20 63 20 .262 95 8.3 1.6 1.6 5.1 46% .236 .255 1.10 4.99 4.84 109 4.52 102.0
2010 ESC Wnt 3 3 5.3 0 0 0 4 0 5 0 .000 6.8 0.0 0.0 8.5 0% .250 .000 0.75 1.20 1.70 0 0.00 0.0
2012 COL MLB 10 10 53.7 2 5 0 75 18 36 11 .249 119 12.6 3.0 1.8 6.0 46% .342 .319 1.73 5.57 5.70 106 6.44 147.7
2012 LVG AAA 2 2 11.0 1 1 0 17 3 9 3 .275 108 13.9 2.5 2.5 7.4 37% .350 .319 1.82 6.38 8.18 104 4.15 79.3
2012 NOR AAA 3 3 16.0 1 1 0 11 0 16 1 .242 93 6.2 0.0 0.6 9.0 47% .227 .189 0.69 2.15 1.69 79 2.11 47.9

Plate Discipline

YEAR PITCHES ZONE_RT SWING_RT CONTACT_RT Z_SWING_RT O_SWING_RT Z_CONTACT_RT O_CONTACT_RT SW_STRK_RT
2008 3019 0.4727 0.4213 0.8294 0.6069 0.2550 0.8661 0.7512 0.1706
2009 2545 0.4640 0.4295 0.8472 0.5902 0.2903 0.8910 0.7702 0.1528
2010 1717 0.4729 0.4205 0.8421 0.5985 0.2608 0.8971 0.7288 0.1579
2012 911 0.4610 0.4237 0.7850 0.6095 0.2648 0.8672 0.6231 0.2150
Career81920.46870.42390.83270.60020.26830.88050.73820.1673

Injury History  —  No longer being updated

Last Update: 12/31/2014 23:59 ET

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
2012-03-12 2012-03-22 Camp 10 0 Left Tightness - -
2010-11-07 2010-11-07 FA 0 0 Left Elbow Surgery Tommy John Surgery 2010-12-01
2010-07-21 2010-10-24 60-DL 95 69 Left Elbow Sprain UCL and Flexor Tendon Strain -
2010-01-11 2010-01-11 Off 0 0 Right Knee Surgery Meniscus 2010-01-11
2009-11-27 2009-11-27 Off 0 0 Abdomen Surgery Pooled Blood 2009-11-27
2009-09-30 2009-11-05 DTD 36 5 Left Groin Surgery 3 Torn Muscles 2009-10-02
2008-10-25 2008-10-25 DTD 0 0 General Medical Illness GI -
2005-07-28 2005-08-06 DTD 9 8 Low Back Stiffness -
2000-10-07 2000-10-18 DTD 11 0 Left Knee Fracture Patella - -
2000-04-15 2000-06-02 15-DL 48 40 Left Shoulder Strain Posterior - -
1997-04-01 1997-04-29 15-DL 28 25 Left Forearm Strain - -
1989-05-31 1989-09-01 15-DL 93 83 Left Shoulder Inflammation - -

Compensation

Year Team Salary
2012 COL $1,100,000
2010 PHI $8,000,000
2009 PHI $6,500,000
2008 PHI $6,000,000
2007 PHI $6,500,000
2006 SEA $5,500,000
2005 SEA $8,000,000
2004 SEA $7,000,000
2003 SEA $6,500,000
2002 SEA $6,500,000
2001 SEA $6,500,000
2000 SEA $6,000,000
YearsDescriptionSalary
12 yrPrevious$74,100,000
12 yrTotal$74,100,000

 

Service TimeAgentContract Status
22 y 126 dJamie Moyer1 year/$1.1M (2012)

Details
  • 1 year/$1.1M (2012). Signed by Colorado as a free agent 1/18/12 (minor-league contract). Salary of $1.1M in majors. Contract purchased by Colorado 4/4/12. DFA by Colorado 5/30/12. Released 6/1/12. Signed by Baltimore as a free agent 6/9/12 (minor-league contract). Released by Baltimore (per request) 6/24/12. Signed by Toronto as a free agent 6/27/12 (minor-league contract). Released by Toronto 7/6/12.
  • 2 years/$13M (2009-10). Re-signed by Philadelphia as a free agent 12/15/08. 09:$6.5M, 10:$6.5M. Performance bonuses: $0.25M each for 150, 160, 170, 180, 190 IP. 2010 salary increases based on 2009 starts, IP: $0.25M each for 150 IP, 23 starts. $0.5M each for 160, 170, 180, 190 IP and 25, 27, 29, 31 starts. Limited no-trade clause allowing Moyer to block deals to 6 clubs (no more than 4 in one league). 2010 salary increased by $1.5M to $8M. Refused outright assignment by Philadelphia 10/29/10.
  • 2 years/$10.5M (2007-08). Signed extension with Philadelphia 10/06. $1M signing bonus. 07:$6M, 08:$3.5M. 2008 salary increases to: $4.5M with 170 IP in 2007. $5.5M with 180 IP in 2007 (had 199.3 IP in 2007). 2008 performance bonuses: $0.5M each for 165, 175, 185 IP in 2008.
  • 1 year/$5.5M (2006). Re-signed by Seattle as a free agent 12/05 Performance bonuses: $0.2M each for 160, 170, 180, 190, 200 IP. Acquired by Philadelphia in trade from Seattle 8/06. Phillies added $4.75M 2007 mutual option ($0.5M buyout). Seattle paid undisclosed amount of cash to Philadelphia.
  • 3 years/$15.5M (2003-05). Re-signed 12/02. $1.5M signing bonus. 03:$6M, 04:$6.5M, 05:$8M ($1.5M base). Performance bonuses: $6M based on GS, 2003-04). Award bonus: $50,000 for All Star selection.
  • 2 years/$12M (2000-01), plus 2002 club option ($2.5M buyout). Seattle exercised $6.5M 2002 option.

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BP Chats

DateQuestionAnswer
2016-09-23 12:30:00 (link to chat)What's the O/U for future Jered Weaver MLB innings? Additionally, who throws more MLB IP the next five years: Jered Weaver, Johan Santana, or Lucas Harrell?
(Lion from Wherever astronauts are)
Oh man, I was just thinking the other day about one of my very first BP pieces, which considered who would get more innings over the next five years, Scott Kazmir (out of baseball entirely at the time), Jamie Moyer (46 or so and recovering from TJ) and Mark Prior (pitching well in Double-A). I thought about redoing it but couldn't decide on the three pitchers to debate. This isn't quite right, but Weaver's a good starting point.

Most likely number is 0, at maybe 20 percent; but the over/under I'd set is probably 145. (Sam Miller)
2016-03-14 14:30:00 (link to chat)Who's the next Altuve?
( P.G. from Houston)
Like with Jamie Moyer, you can't really make a Jose Altuve comp. (Brendan Gawlowski)
2014-07-31 19:30:00 (link to chat)With all the TJS this year I was wondering who has come back from TJS and has had a good long career?
(scott from az)
Tons of examples here, that's why so many people are willing to discount a lot of the risk that comes with TJS right now -- Adam Wainwright, Chris Carpenter, AJ Burnett, Jamie Moyer, John Smoltz, Tommy John himself, etc (Ben Carsley)
2013-04-15 13:00:00 (link to chat)I hate the Yankees, but man am I fascinated by their pitching staff. What Hiroki Kuroda is doing at his age isn't done by very many, is it? It seems to me like scares related to Sabathia are just media-microscope foolishness -- shouldn't the real narrative be that the surgery was relatively minor and the velo might be a case of him taking it easy, a'la Verlander, until he and the weather warm to the season? And whither Ivan Nova? I'm dying to see the arsenal addition, but they took the opportunity to skip him.
(smallflowers from (undisclosed black site))
Hey smallflowers, thanks for joining us. Yeah, Kuroda has had a great career since coming to North America. His age 33-38 seasons compare well with those of another former Yankees hurler, David Cone. As for the media stuff, that seems to happen sometimes in New York. BTW, while looking up Cone's numbers, I realized he's younger than Jamie Moyer. (Geoff Young)
2013-01-31 13:00:00 (link to chat)Hey you, rank every active MLB player and prospect in one list. And do it quickly, I haven't got all day here!
(Demanding Joe from Possumjaw, AR)
I'm almost done with the list but need a judgment. Does Jamie Moyer count as active? (Zachary Levine)
2012-05-17 13:00:00 (link to chat)What do we make of Christian Friedrich going forward? Obviously the early returns are outliers, but what level does he settle in at? And how do you anticipate his style of pitching will play in Coors?
(rapid eye movement from springfield)
Friedrich has had some great matchups thus far, inflating his numbers, but he is an intriguing play going forward. He reportedly worked with Cliff Lee about making his motion more repeatable this off-season, (in addition to soliciting advice from Jamie Moyer and Mike Hampton), and it appears it has helped his control. He also has interesting stuff. There's little horizontal component to his game, but he gets tons of vertical separation with his pitches, forcing hitters to change their eye level. His 92-mph fastball rises a foot, and his 12-to-6 curve breaks close to a foot. He throws a sharp slider in between and a show-me change. The only problem is that he'll be flyball pitcher (especially if he keeps throwing his fastball 65 percent of the time), which isn't great for Coors. Overall, I think Friedrich has a solid chances to succeed, especially if you can pick and choose his match-ups. (Derek Carty)
2012-04-13 13:00:00 (link to chat)How much will the Rockies limit their pitchers this year? How will pitch in September? They have the young, Juan Nicasio, Drew Pomeranz, and Chacin. They have the old in Jamie Moyer.
(will.I.ain't from roaming)
I'd bet that Pomeranz, who threw about 120 innings across four levels last year, will be capped around 150-160, and Nicasio maybe just a bit higher. I'd be surprised if Moyer makes it through the year, at least in the rotation, and I think it's important to remember that they have Jorge de la Rosa coming back from Tommy John surgery at some point this summer.

I don't think it's going to matter particularly how well they pitch in September, as they won't be contending. Their offense is mediocre even in a division that defines offensive mediocrity, and Jim Tracy is more hindrance than help when it comes to running a bullpen. (Jay Jaffe)
2011-05-12 13:00:00 (link to chat)How DOES Shawn Marcum work? Its bizarre that someone who doesn't break 90 on a radar gun gets those Ks. Is it sustainable?
(WisconsinRob from Madison)
I sure hope so. Theoretically, at least, a sub-90 mph pitcher can sustainably strike players out with smart sequencing, good pitches, and good accuracy. Trevor Hoffman, Jamie Moyer, Greg Maddux, etc... Whether Marcum continues to do that is tough to say. He's done a remarkable job of keeping it up since last year, though. I wouldn't be surprised if he continues to do so. (Larry Granillo)
2011-04-18 13:00:00 (link to chat)Tom Milone a young Jamie Moyer? Is that something you'd project for any pitcher?
(Jim from Washington)
No no no and a thousand times no. KG edict #32192 Do not, EVER EVER EVER comp a player to Jamie Moyer. There are 20,000 lefties with Jamie Moyer's stuff on a pure scouting level, and one Jamie Moyer. Don't do it. No Maddux comps, and no Bo Jackson comps either. (Kevin Goldstein)
2011-04-18 13:00:00 (link to chat)Can you compare Greg Maddux to Jamie Moyer?
(Jeff from Eh...)
Bo Jackson has better tools. (Kevin Goldstein)
2011-01-18 13:00:00 (link to chat)It's the baseball apocalypse. You can only pick five current major league ballplayers to save. You don't have to base it on stats or team or likeability or anything. Who do you pick?
(hannah from bay area)
What a question! I love watching Adrian Gonzalez hit, so I would like that to continue. Logan Morrison's Twitter account has guaranteed him a spot in this Final Five. Jim Thome can be saved, but only if he promises to sit in BP and hit taters all day long for my amusement as repayment for doing so. Someone needs to pitch to these guys, so it should be Jamie Moyer if for no other reason than he's Jamie Moyer. Willie Bloomquist would probably survive whether I picked him or not. Maybe he's baseball's version of the cockroach. (Marc Normandin)
2010-11-02 13:00:00 (link to chat)Do you foresee the Phils making a move with the eminent Werth departure, or do you think they are content with a platoon of Franciso/Brown?
(John Locke from The Island)
Content. It'll be an interesting offseason because most fans think more about runs added on offense than runs suppressed with pitching. Losing Werth will hurt, without question, but you also have to remember that they will have a full season of Oswalt instead of just 10-11 starts, and most likely a healthy Joe Blanton going into spring training, which is certainly better than relying on both Jamie Moyer and Kyle Kendrick entering the year. Brown should be solid with regular playing time, and Francisco handles lefties very well. Their platoon won't replace Werth, but the upgrade of having a full year of Oswalt and a healthy Blanton really cuts into that deficit. Plus, it is hard to imagine the offense will be as unhealthy next year as they were this year, so the Phils are bound to get more runs back on that front as well. It is very easy to come up with reasons why they WON'T be as good next year, but I still hold they will win the division again. (Eric Seidman)
2010-10-14 13:00:00 (link to chat)I felt old when I compiled this list in April. Tweleve 2010 MLB players were older than me. How many will be back next year? 1 Jamie Moyer -- Phillies --18-Nov-62 2 Tim Wakefield -- Red Sox --2-Aug-66 3 Omar Vizquel -- White Sox --24-Apr-67 4 Trevor Hoffman -- Brewers -- 13-Oct-67 5 Matt Stairs -- Padres -- 27-Feb-68 6 Brad Ausmus -- Dodgers -- 14-Apr-69 7 Arthur Rhodes -- Reds -- 24-Oct-69 8 Ken Griffey Jr. -- Mariners -- 21-Nov-69 9 Mariano Rivera-- Yankees -- 29-Nov-69 10 Takashi Saito -- Braves -- 14-Feb-70 11 Jim Edmonds -- Brewers -- 27-Jun-70 12 Mark Grudzielanek -- Indians -- 30-Jun-70
(ted from the cubicle)
Most of them, I think. Next year is Wakefield's last season though. Matt Stairs wants to come back for one more year, at least. Arthur Rhodes is a reliever, so he'll pitch until he can't. (Marc Normandin)
2010-09-13 13:00:00 (link to chat)Do you think that any other active pitcher has a legitimate shot at 300 wins besides Sabathia?
(adamseth7 from philly)
I wouldn't bet against Roy Halladay (166 and counting through his age 33 season), and I think the resurgence of Roy Oswalt (149 through his age 31) puts him back on the map if he can stay in Philadelphia during his next contract, but the past year has been rough on other candidates such as Johan Santana, Andy Pettitte, Jake Peavy, even Jamie Moyer. (Jay Jaffe)
2010-06-23 19:00:00 (link to chat)So if zombies are incapable of playing baseball how do they manage to play rugby? Too, what sort of unholy creature is Jamie Moyer?
(Juglub from Basement)
Rugby exists as a selection mechanism against higher brain function, as far as I can tell. Jamie Moyer is the eldritch terror known as the "crafty lefty." (Colin Wyers)
2010-06-23 19:00:00 (link to chat)Now that the White Sox have pitched their way back into contention, what should they do about their gaping lineup holes? Also, Jamie Moyer is clearly a Bard.
(SouthSideJohnny from SouthSide)
A left fielder that's more of an offensive threat would probably help, as would a DH that's at least replacement level. You could maybe even solve both problems at once - pick up a legit DH bat, and push your Jones/Kotsay platoon out to left field. I'd probably leave Beckham where he is and hope for an improvement there. (Colin Wyers)
2010-06-28 14:00:00 (link to chat)Would you rather have a Ron Guidry type career, short with multiple Cy Young caliber years, or Jamie Moyer, okay to good for a long, long time?
(redsoxin2004 from Columbia, CT)
Me, I'd rather have the Moyer path, because I think that if I had the talent to play in the majors I would hang on as long as I can and wring every last drop out of my ability. That, plus I've always enjoyed the elder statesman role in certain situations. (Jay Jaffe)
2010-01-19 15:30:00 (link to chat)Wow, got home from work and you're still chatting! With Doc Halladay and King Felix off the table, it seems certain that the Yankees will make Cliff Lee a very rich man sometime next offseason, yes?
(Tex Premium Lager from NJ)
Just for this last question, Tex. There's a very good chance, though they'll have to be careful because they'd be buying something like Lee's age-32-36 seasons. They should have an opening, assuming they don't want to keep paying Andy Pettitte into his Jamie Moyer years, and what he did in the postseason will probably stay with them for awhile. (Steven Goldman)
2009-11-17 14:00:00 (link to chat)Who has been the answer to more comps questions in the last 5 years - Mike Cameron or Tom Glavine?
(Mario66 from Toronto)
How about the most MISUSED comp -- Jamie Moyer. Every lefty with crap stuff and good numbers gets a Moyer comp (NOT by scouts). It's never accurate. (Kevin Goldstein)
2009-08-13 13:00:00 (link to chat)Actually, related to Joe's comment about crusty old hurlers, what did you think of Pedro last night? The contingent of Phillies supporters around here seem to be unimpressed, though they may be sentimentally tied to Jamie Moyer.
(Rob from Princeton)
It was a mixed bag, but we probably shouldn't have expected more than that. As for sentimentality, hey, I'm sentimental about Moyer too. As I said on XM with Mike Ferrin the other day, during Moyer's career I've gone from a seventh grader to a married man with two kids. Moyer keeps me young. He's the Pitcher of Dorian Gray. Thing is, as fans it's easy for us to be sentimental, but sentimentality kills teams. I've written many times that one of the toughest things baseball asks fans to do is choose between your affection for certain players and your desire to see the team win. Quite often those feelings are in direct opposition. (Steven Goldman)
2009-06-05 15:30:00 (link to chat)Do you live in fear knowing that it's only a matter of time before Ruben Amaro trades me half the farm system for Erik Bedard?
(Jack from Seattle)
The Phillies have about a 2-year window of really being solid competitors for a postseason slot and potentially the World Series. They definitely need another solid starting pitcher with the question marks surrounding Jamie Moyer. Blanton has been more effective recently, Hamels is back, and JA Happ looks like the real deal as a back of the rotation pitcher as well. But for a potential playoff team, do you really want to rely on Antonio Bastardo, a prospect that some Phillies fans didn't even know about? I would certainly be in favor of unloading key prospects to get someone to solidify their rotation. Ideally that someone would be Roy Oswalt or Jake Peavy, but if it's Bedard for half of a season in exchange for roadblocked prospects, so be it. (Eric Seidman)
2009-06-03 15:00:00 (link to chat)Will Jamie Moyer even get close to the hall of fame? I wouldn't think so but the idea has gotten some favorable attention since he hit 250 wins.
(kevin from boston)
I don't think so, not if a 250+ winner with additional postseason heroics like Jack Morris can't get above 50% of the vote (and he shouldn't, as you'll see if you read my JAWS articles). Pitcher wins ain't all that they're cracked up to be anyway, and the fact that Moyer has no Cys and just one All-Star appearance pretty much consigns him to the human interest section of the voting. (Jay Jaffe)
2009-03-13 13:00:00 (link to chat)Is it a reach to expect 180 innings from Randy Johnson this year?
(Steve Culver from NY)
Probably. The list of pitchers to throw that many innings at his age is rather short (just five), and he hasn't exactly been Mr. Healthy in the recent past. Most of the pitchers to show any durability at this age were knuckleballers -- of the five seasons I just mentioned, three were by Phil Niekro, one by Charlie Hough, one by Jamie Moyer... The thing with Randy is that he's such a historical outlier, physiologically speaking, that predictions are tough to make. Niekro obviously isn't an acceptable comp. (Steven Goldman)
2009-02-03 13:00:00 (link to chat)If you were advising the Phillies, what feels right for $ and years for Ryan Howard? Although he's only been a star for three years, he's already pushing 30, with a body you figure may not age like Jamie Moyer.
(Tom from Philadelphia)
I go to arbitration every season. There's no way he ages well, and in fact, he's been in a fairly steep decline since 2006. Howard has certainly passed Ichiro to become the most overrated player in baseball. (Joe Sheehan)
2008-11-03 13:30:00 (link to chat)What are your thoughts on Jamie Moyer and should the Phillies re-sign him? He is quoted as saying he'll be back what's he worth?
(gmchugh from Seattle,Wa)
On some level, Moyer's almost like the crafty lefty variant on Tim Wakefield--if you can get him for an affordable package that lets you write him in as your fourth starter, he's an asset. If he wants a three-year deal at market rates, wish him well. (Christina Kahrl)
2008-09-23 13:30:00 (link to chat)You were pretty negative about the Phillies all year. Anything that can be learned from their (likely) playoff campaign, in terms of what you didn't like about their chances and how they overcame that?
(e from lawrenceville)
Without looking, I think I had them at 83 or so wins, and they'll finish at 90-92 or so. I suspect most of that difference is the bullpen, which vastly overperformed any kind of realistic expectations. Throw in Shane Victorino, who's more durable than I expected, Pat Burrell having another strong year, and Jamie Moyer being better than expected, and you have the difference. Only Ryan Howard, really, has underperformed. That's a lot of things going right, and not much going wrong. The question is, was there a reason for this, or is it just random? I don't think much of Charlie Manuel's tactics, but he sure seems to be in the dugout for a lot of successful teams. (Joe Sheehan)
2008-07-21 15:00:00 (link to chat)As the proud, expectant father of twin girls, any physical reason that a women could not pitch professionally? ( I am not sure Ira Borders counts) Thanks.
(cooper7d7 from CT)
I'll make my second tennis reference here and say it's extremely unlikely. Even the best women players can't stay on the court with mediocre male players, but more importantly to pitching, the fastest woman (Venus Williams) tops out around 125. The first woman pitcher will likely be a Jamie Moyer or maybe a Tim Wakefield type. (Will Carroll)
2008-06-20 13:30:00 (link to chat)Hi Mr. Sheehan! So there used to be player-managers... any reason we couldn't have a pitcher-pitching coach? I think about this when I hear about Pedro or Mussina or especially Maddux talking to the younger folk. You could instantly have a top-flight pitching coach (right?), plus you could use him sparingly in the bullpen.
(G-MOTA from Bumpus, MA)
Sans title, these jobs have existed for some time. Maddux, Jamie Moyer, Clemens...Nolan Ryan. You want that to be an informal situation; you don't need a pitcher worried about 10 other guys. Or 13 other guys, if it's the Brewers. (Joe Sheehan)
2008-04-29 14:00:00 (link to chat)other pitchers availible are, Dontrelle Willis,Ted Lilly,Francisco Liriano, Tom Gorzelanny, Ubaldo Jiménez, Jarrod Washburn, Jeff Suppan, Jamie Moyer, Shawn Chacón, Shawn Hill, Kevin Millwood, Andy Sonnanstine, See anything in there you like better the Hughes?
(dogtothedog from Toronto)
Sonnanstine's intriguing. Lilly's using the wrong pitches, from what I can tell. I like Gorzelanny, but I'd like him more if he'd stop hurting my own team's numbers. I'd take Sonnanstine for now, honestly. Phil Hughes is all kinds of messed up at the moment.

Sonnanstine's using a cutter more this year, probably to offset the number of fastballs in the zone hitters knew were coming in '07. It hasn't helped his strikeout rate, but he's lowered the number of base hits he's allowing. That's a tough crowd of FA, I'll give you that... (Marc Normandin)


BP Roundtables

DateRoundtable NameComment
2008-10-22 16:30:00World Series Game One"Mountainhawk (Salem, MA): By the way, if it is so obvious the Rays are the better team all around here, then why is it when you run the raw numbers via Clay Davenport's simulations, the Phillies are the favorite for this series? Can anyone explain that?"

Sure. The Rays aren't all that good against lefties (25-24 record this year), and the Phils start two of them in the short series. According to Clay, the Rays had the biggest platoon gap of any team that made the playoffs. Hamels is capitalizing on that tonight (although, the way he's pitched the last couple of years he hardly needs the help) it waits to be seen if Jamie Moyer can follow that example. (Derek Jacques)
 

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