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Career Summary
Years PA AVG OBP SLG DRC+ WARP
29 12013 .272 .336 .352 85 33.2
Birth Date4-24-1967
Height5' 9"
Weight180 lbs
Age52 years, 3 months, 24 days
BatsB
ThrowsR
WARP Summary

MLB Statistics

YEAR TEAM AGE G PA H 2B 3B HR BB SO HBP SB CS AVG OBP SLG DRC+ DRAA BRR FRAA BWARP
1989 SEA 22 143 431 85 7 3 1 28 40 1 1 4 .220 .273 .261 60 -18.1 -0.6 -6.1 -0.9
1990 SEA 23 81 285 63 3 2 2 18 22 0 4 1 .247 .295 .298 72 -8.7 -1.3 0.4 0.2
1991 SEA 24 142 482 98 16 4 1 45 37 0 7 2 .230 .302 .293 77 -11.9 0.1 8.0 1.6
1992 SEA 25 136 527 142 20 4 0 32 38 2 15 13 .294 .340 .352 92 -3.0 -4.7 4.9 1.9
1993 SEA 26 158 630 143 14 2 2 50 71 4 12 14 .255 .319 .298 73 -18.7 2.1 8.8 1.9
1994 CLE 27 69 322 78 10 1 1 23 23 0 13 4 .273 .325 .325 80 -7.3 0.2 -4.9 0.2
1995 CLE 28 136 622 144 28 0 6 59 59 1 29 11 .266 .333 .351 85 -10.0 4.5 2.6 2.4
1996 CLE 29 151 623 161 36 1 9 56 42 4 35 9 .297 .362 .417 95 -1.2 1.4 5.2 3.2
1997 CLE 30 153 642 158 23 6 5 57 58 2 43 12 .280 .347 .368 92 -3.4 0.4 -7.8 1.5
1998 CLE 31 151 660 166 30 6 2 62 64 4 37 12 .288 .358 .372 86 -10.1 4.5 6.4 2.7
1999 CLE 32 144 664 191 36 4 5 65 50 1 42 9 .333 .397 .436 103 6.1 4.1 0.3 3.6
2000 CLE 33 156 717 176 27 3 7 87 72 5 22 10 .287 .377 .375 97 1.3 -0.3 -10.9 2.2
2001 CLE 34 155 693 156 26 8 2 61 72 2 13 9 .255 .323 .334 71 -22.9 -1.7 -5.4 0.0
2002 CLE 35 151 663 160 31 5 14 56 64 8 18 10 .275 .341 .418 100 3.0 0.7 1.0 3.3
2003 CLE 36 64 285 61 13 2 2 29 20 0 8 3 .244 .321 .336 86 -4.0 1.5 0.0 0.9
2004 CLE 37 148 651 165 28 3 7 57 62 1 19 6 .291 .353 .388 91 -5.8 -2.4 -6.9 1.3
2005 SFN 38 152 651 154 28 4 3 56 58 5 24 10 .271 .341 .350 83 -12.7 0.3 6.5 2.2
2006 SFN 39 153 659 171 22 10 4 56 51 6 24 7 .295 .361 .389 93 -2.8 1.1 -5.4 2.1
2007 SFN 40 145 575 126 18 3 4 44 48 1 14 6 .246 .305 .316 69 -20.5 2.2 18.5 2.5
2008 SFN 41 92 300 59 10 1 0 24 29 0 5 4 .222 .283 .267 67 -11.5 1.3 -1.5 0.1
2009 TEX 42 62 195 47 7 2 1 13 27 0 4 0 .266 .316 .345 80 -4.3 -1.9 4.7 0.5
2010 CHA 43 108 391 95 11 1 2 34 45 2 11 7 .276 .341 .331 89 -4.4 0.4 -6.4 0.2
2011 CHA 44 58 182 42 7 1 0 9 18 0 1 2 .251 .287 .305 80 -4.0 0.1 -3.4 -0.2
2012 TOR 45 60 163 36 5 1 0 7 17 0 3 2 .235 .265 .281 72 -5.2 -2.3 2.4 0.0
Career296812013287745677801028108749404167.272.336.35285-180.09.511.133.2

Statistics for All Levels

'opp' stats - Quality of opponents faced - have been moved and are available only as OPP_QUAL in the Statistics reports now.
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YEAR Team Lg LG G PA oppAVG oppOBP oppSLG BABIP BPF BRAA repLVL POS_ADJ DRC+ DRC+ SD FRAA BRR DRAA BWARP
1984 BUT Rk PIO 15 49 .000 .000 .000 .378 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1985 BLN A- NWN 50 204 .000 .000 .000 .233 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1986 WAU A MDW 105 425 .000 .000 .000 .241 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1987 SLN A+ CLF 114 474 .000 .000 .000 .300 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1988 VER AA EAS 103 430 .000 .000 .000 .281 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1988 CLG AAA PCL 33 113 .000 .000 .000 .247 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1989 SEA MLB AL 143 431 .264 .324 .388 .241 103 -21.8 11.3 5.1 60 9 -6.1 -0.6 -18.1 -0.9
1989 CLG AAA PCL 7 32 .000 .000 .000 .250 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1990 SEA MLB AL 81 285 .256 .323 .383 .262 100 -11.7 7.6 3.5 72 10 0.4 -1.3 -8.7 0.2
1990 SBR A+ CLF 6 31 .000 .000 .000 .259 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1990 CLG AAA PCL 48 176 .000 .000 .000 .235 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1991 SEA MLB AL 142 482 .260 .325 .395 .248 98 -13.8 13.0 5.9 77 9 8.0 0.1 -11.9 1.6
1992 SEA MLB AL 136 527 .259 .325 .385 .318 102 -5.4 13.7 6.2 92 8 4.9 -4.7 -3.0 1.9
1992 CLG AAA PCL 6 24 .000 .000 .000 .316 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1993 SEA MLB AL 158 630 .268 .336 .411 .288 100 -18.7 18.1 8.3 73 8 8.8 2.1 -18.7 1.9
1994 CLE MLB AL 69 322 .281 .348 .450 .292 102 -13.2 9.8 4.5 80 7 -4.9 0.2 -7.3 0.2
1994 CHR AAA INT 7 28 .000 .000 .000 .280 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1995 CLE MLB AL 136 622 .272 .344 .431 .283 98 -10.2 18.6 8.6 85 8 2.6 4.5 -10.0 2.4
1996 CLE MLB AL 151 623 .277 .348 .443 .304 101 5.5 19.3 8.8 95 6 5.2 1.4 -1.2 3.2
1997 CLE MLB AL 153 642 .277 .343 .439 .304 97 -3.3 17.7 8.7 92 7 -7.8 0.4 -3.4 1.5
1998 CLE MLB AL 151 660 .269 .335 .430 .318 103 -8.3 18.0 9 86 9 6.4 4.5 -10.1 2.7
1999 CLE MLB AL 144 664 .273 .343 .433 .354 104 13.8 18.6 9.5 103 8 0.3 4.1 6.1 3.6
2000 CLE MLB AL 156 717 .275 .346 .444 .314 91 9.5 22.6 10.4 97 6 -10.9 -0.3 1.3 2.2
2001 CLE MLB AL 155 693 .269 .335 .434 .285 102 -26.2 20.6 9.5 71 7 -5.4 -1.7 -22.9 0.0
2002 CLE MLB AL 151 663 .267 .328 .431 .284 100 2.9 19.1 8.8 100 8 1.0 0.7 3.0 3.3
2003 CLE MLB AL 64 285 .272 .335 .440 .258 95 -7.5 7.7 3.8 86 10 0.0 1.5 -4.0 0.9
2003 LKC A SAL 4 15 .000 .000 .000 .083 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2004 CLE MLB AL 148 651 .274 .337 .438 .313 104 -2 19.4 8.8 91 9 -6.9 -2.4 -5.8 1.3
2005 SFN MLB NL 152 651 .266 .327 .426 .297 98 -7.9 18.7 8.6 83 8 6.5 0.3 -12.7 2.2
2006 SFN MLB NL 153 659 .268 .330 .431 .316 91 2.1 19.8 9.1 93 5 -5.4 1.1 -2.8 2.1
2007 SFN MLB NL 145 575 .264 .330 .414 .263 97 -28.8 17.1 7.8 69 5 18.5 2.2 -20.5 2.5
2008 SFN MLB NL 92 300 .258 .322 .402 .246 96 -20.5 8.7 3.8 67 10 -1.5 1.3 -11.5 0.1
2008 SJO A+ CLF 3 10 .308 .358 .471 .375 80 1.2 0.3 0.1 144 0 0.0 0.5 0.3 0.1
2008 FRE AAA PCL 2 5 .283 .364 .425 .200 108 -0.7 0.2 0.1 67 0 0.0 -0.3 -0.2 0.0
2009 TEX MLB AL 62 195 .273 .337 .442 .309 106 -6.4 5.6 1.2 80 16 4.7 -1.9 -4.3 0.5
2010 CHA MLB AL 108 391 .263 .324 .410 .309 112 -8.9 10.8 1.3 89 10 -6.4 0.4 -4.4 0.2
2011 CHA MLB AL 58 182 .259 .319 .405 .278 105 -6.4 4.9 0.6 80 13 -3.4 0.1 -4.0 -0.2
2012 TOR MLB AL 60 163 .247 .310 .398 .261 107 -10.5 4.5 0.4 72 10 2.4 -2.3 -5.2 0.0

Statistics For All Levels

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Year Team lvl LG PA AB R H 2B 3B HR TB RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG ISO SF SH
1984 BUT Rk PIO 49 45 7 14 2 0 0 16 4 3 8 2 0 .311 .354 .356 .044 0 0
1985 BLN A- NWN 204 187 24 42 9 0 5 66 17 12 27 4 3 .225 .266 .353 .128 4 4
1986 WAU A MDW 425 352 60 75 13 2 4 104 28 64 56 19 6 .213 .336 .295 .082 2 2
1987 SLN A+ CLF 474 407 61 107 12 8 0 135 38 57 56 25 19 .263 .349 .332 .069 6 6
1988 CLG AAA PCL 113 107 10 24 2 3 1 35 12 5 14 2 4 .224 .257 .327 .103 1 1
1988 VER AA EAS 430 374 54 95 18 2 2 123 35 42 44 30 11 .254 .332 .329 .075 3 3
1989 SEA MLB AL 431 387 45 85 7 3 1 101 20 28 40 1 4 .220 .273 .261 .041 2 13
1989 CLG AAA PCL 32 28 3 6 2 0 0 8 3 3 4 0 2 .214 .313 .286 .071 0 0
1990 SEA MLB AL 285 255 19 63 3 2 2 76 18 18 22 4 1 .247 .295 .298 .051 2 10
1990 CLG AAA PCL 176 150 18 35 6 2 0 45 8 13 10 4 3 .233 .287 .300 .067 9 9
1990 SBR A+ CLF 31 28 5 7 0 0 0 7 3 3 1 1 2 .250 .323 .250 .000 0 0
1991 SEA MLB AL 482 426 42 98 16 4 1 125 41 45 37 7 2 .230 .302 .293 .063 3 8
1992 SEA MLB AL 527 483 49 142 20 4 0 170 21 32 38 15 13 .294 .340 .352 .058 1 9
1992 CLG AAA PCL 24 22 0 6 1 0 0 7 2 1 3 0 1 .273 .333 .318 .045 0 0
1993 SEA MLB AL 630 560 68 143 14 2 2 167 31 50 71 12 14 .255 .319 .298 .043 3 13
1994 CLE MLB AL 322 286 39 78 10 1 1 93 33 23 23 13 4 .273 .325 .325 .052 2 11
1994 CHR AAA INT 28 26 3 7 1 0 0 8 1 2 1 1 0 .269 .321 .308 .038 0 0
1995 CLE MLB AL 622 542 87 144 28 0 6 190 56 59 59 29 11 .266 .333 .351 .085 10 10
1996 CLE MLB AL 623 542 98 161 36 1 9 226 64 56 42 35 9 .297 .362 .417 .120 9 12
1997 CLE MLB AL 642 565 89 158 23 6 5 208 49 57 58 43 12 .280 .347 .368 .088 2 16
1998 CLE MLB AL 660 576 86 166 30 6 2 214 50 62 64 37 12 .288 .358 .372 .083 6 12
1999 CLE MLB AL 664 574 112 191 36 4 5 250 66 65 50 42 9 .333 .397 .436 .103 7 17
2000 CLE MLB AL 717 613 101 176 27 3 7 230 66 87 72 22 10 .287 .377 .375 .088 5 7
2001 CLE MLB AL 693 611 84 156 26 8 2 204 50 61 72 13 9 .255 .323 .334 .079 4 15
2002 CLE MLB AL 663 582 85 160 31 5 14 243 72 56 64 18 10 .275 .341 .418 .143 10 7
2003 LKC A SAL 15 14 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 2 1 0 .071 .133 .071 .000 0 0
2003 CLE MLB AL 285 250 43 61 13 2 2 84 19 29 20 8 3 .244 .321 .336 .092 1 5
2004 CLE MLB AL 651 567 82 165 28 3 7 220 59 57 62 19 6 .291 .353 .388 .097 6 20
2005 SFN MLB NL 651 568 66 154 28 4 3 199 45 56 58 24 10 .271 .341 .350 .079 2 20
2006 SFN MLB NL 659 579 88 171 22 10 4 225 58 56 51 24 7 .295 .361 .389 .093 5 13
2007 SFN MLB NL 575 513 54 126 18 3 4 162 51 44 48 14 6 .246 .305 .316 .070 3 14
2008 SFN MLB NL 300 266 24 59 10 1 0 71 23 24 29 5 4 .222 .283 .267 .045 3 7
2008 FRE AAA PCL 5 5 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 .200 .200 .200 .000 0 0
2008 SJO A+ CLF 10 8 3 3 0 0 0 3 1 2 0 0 0 .375 .500 .375 .000 0 0
2009 TEX MLB AL 195 177 17 47 7 2 1 61 14 13 27 4 0 .266 .316 .345 .079 0 5
2010 CHA MLB AL 391 344 36 95 11 1 2 114 30 34 45 11 7 .276 .341 .331 .055 4 7
2011 CHA MLB AL 182 167 18 42 7 1 0 51 8 9 18 1 2 .251 .287 .305 .054 2 4
2012 TOR MLB AL 163 153 13 36 5 1 0 43 7 7 17 3 2 .235 .265 .281 .046 2 1

Plate Discipline

YEAR Pits Zone% Swing% Contact% Z-Swing% O-Swing% Z-Contact% O-Contact% SwStr% CSAA
2008 1024 0.5283 0.4375 0.9063 0.5638 0.2961 0.9639 0.7832 0.0938 -0.0070
2009 768 0.5247 0.4310 0.8671 0.5980 0.2466 0.9170 0.7333 0.1329 -0.0027
2010 1496 0.5047 0.4057 0.8748 0.5669 0.2416 0.9393 0.7207 0.1252 -0.0043
2011 694 0.5202 0.4294 0.8926 0.5374 0.3123 0.9639 0.7596 0.1074 0.0015
2012 578 0.5208 0.4671 0.8815 0.5880 0.3357 0.9435 0.7634 0.1185 0.0022
Career45600.51780.42850.88410.56960.27740.94530.74820.1159-0.0029

Injury History  —  No longer being updated

Last Update: 12/31/2014 23:59 ET

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
2010-07-05 2010-07-06 DTD 1 1 Left Knee Contusion HBP -
2009-02-28 2009-03-02 Camp 2 0 Right Trunk Strain -
2008-10-07 2008-10-07 Off 0 0 Right Face Surgery LASIK 2008-10-07
2008-07-19 2008-07-19 DTD 0 0 Foot Soreness -
2008-06-02 2008-06-03 DTD 1 1 Left Knee Soreness -
2008-03-21 2008-05-10 15-DL 50 36 Left Knee Surgery Meniscus 2008-02-27
2007-06-26 2007-06-29 DTD 3 2 Right Groin Strain -
2007-06-04 2007-06-05 DTD 1 1 General Medical Illness Sinus Infection -
2006-07-27 2006-07-28 DTD 1 1 Right Foot Contusion Foul Ball -
2006-07-10 2006-07-11 DTD 1 0 Left Thigh Soreness Hamstring -
2005-07-16 2005-07-17 DTD 1 1 Groin Soreness -
2005-06-06 2005-06-09 DTD 3 2 Face Surgery Dental 2005-06-06
2004-08-04 2004-08-05 DTD 1 1 Right Foot Contusion Foul Ball -
2004-06-20 2004-06-22 DTD 2 2 Right Fingers Contusion Index Finger -
2004-05-15 2004-05-17 DTD 2 2 General Medical Respiratory Flu -
2003-09-03 2003-09-29 DTD 26 23 Right Knee Surgery Meniscus 2003-09-05
2003-06-12 2003-08-26 15-DL 75 68 Right Knee Surgery Meniscus 2003-06-12
1999-07-10 1999-07-31 Minors 21 0 Right Shoulder Strain -
1999-06-12 1999-06-23 Minors 11 0 Right Shoulder Strain - -
1996-10-11 1996-10-11 Off 0 0 Right Shoulder Surgery 1996-10-11 -
1994-04-23 1994-06-13 15-DL 51 44 Right Knee Sprain - -
1992-04-13 1992-05-11 15-DL 28 24 Left Knee Sprain - -
1990-04-07 1990-05-13 15-DL 36 32 Left Knee Sprain MCL - -

Compensation

Year Team Salary
2013 TOR $
2012 TOR $750,000
2011 CHA $1,750,000
2010 CHA $1,375,000
2009 TEX $1,000,000
2008 SFN $5,300,000
2007 SFN $4,583,333
2006 SFN $4,583,333
2005 SFN $3,083,333
2004 CLE $6,000,000
2003 CLE $5,500,000
2002 CLE $4,500,000
2001 CLE $3,000,000
2000 CLE $3,000,000
YearsDescriptionSalary
13 yrPrevious$44,424,999
13 yrTotal$44,424,999

 

Service TimeAgentContract Status
23 y 130 dAdam Katz1 year/$0.75M (2012)

Details
  • 1 year (2012). Signed by Toronto as a free agent 1/24/12 (minor-league contract). Salary of $0.75M in majors. Contract purchased by Toronto 4/4/12.
  • 1 year/$1.75M (2011). Re-signed by Chicago White Sox as a free agent 11/2/10.
  • 1 year/$1.375M (2010). Signed by Chicago White Sox as a free agent 11/23/09.
  • 1 year/$1M (2009). Signed by Texas as a free agent 1/22/09 (minor-league contract). Contract purchased 4/5/09. Performance bonuses based on PAs.
  • 1 year/$5.3M (2008), plus 2009 club option. Re-signed by San Francisco 11/9/07. 08:$5M, 09:$5.2M club option, $0.3M buyout). 2009 option may vest based on 2008 performance.
  • 3 years/$12.25M (2005-07). Signed by San Francisco as a free agent 11/04. $1.75M signing bonus ($1M in 08, $0.75M in 09). 05:$2.5M, 06:$4M, 07:$4M. Award bonus: $0.1M Gold Glove.
  • 2 years/$15M (2003-04), plus 2005 mutual option. Signed extension with Cleveland. 03:$5.75M, 04:$5.75M, 05:$5M mutual option, $1M buyout. Club declined 2005 option 10/04.
  • 6 years/$18M (1996-2001). Signed extension with Cleveland. $3M extension for 2002 (increased to $4.5M).

2019 Preseason Forecast

Last Update: 1/27/2017 12:35 ET

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BP Chats

DateQuestionAnswer
2013-06-27 13:15:00 (link to chat)The Omar Vizquel discussion on Effectively Wild got me thinking... If a team wants to sign a player to mentor young players, purely for his impact on team chemistry, why would they waste a roster spot on him instead of simply signing him as a bench coach but having him practice on the field with the players, hang out in the clubhouse, etc.?
(oloughla from Boston, MA)
Well, a few reasons, I suppose. For one thing, maybe they have their eye on a particular player, but that player isn't quite ready to retire yet. For another, you probably want your bench coach to be someone experienced and well-versed in the ways of in-game management. You could make him a base coach, which would leave the more vital bench coach role free for someone else, but maybe players are more open to being mentored by a fellow player than a member of the coaching staff. Some advice that could be taken as constructive criticism if offered by another player could be regarded as lecturing if it's delivered by a coach. (Ben Lindbergh)
2013-01-11 14:00:00 (link to chat)Do you see the way players are judged for entrance into the Hall of Fame evolving in the coming years and decades? Defense seems to just be getting to the point where we can judge a player's career. Will there be any cases that get pushed in due to statistical evidence supporting their exceptional defense? (And no, I'm not just trying to find a way for Jose Molina to make it in the HOF.)
(Steve from Milwaukee)
I think it's already changing; look at the way sabermetrics helped Bert Blyleven's climb. I don't think defensee alone is going to get anybody into Cooperstown unless they've got Ozzie Smith-level defensive numbers, which is tough luck for Omar Vizquel. (Jay Jaffe on the Hall of Fame)
2012-04-13 13:00:00 (link to chat)As Omar Vizquel enters his 24th season, is he worthy of the HOF?
(ParklandTrojan from Pennsylvania)
Nope. He's such a below-average hitter (.244 True Average) that it eats into his overall value considerably, and despite the Gold Gloves we have him at just ~11 FRAA for his career. He's not Ozzie Smith, Part Deux by any stretch of the imagination any more than Juan Pierre is Rickey Henderson, Part Deux. (Jay Jaffe)
2010-10-14 13:00:00 (link to chat)I felt old when I compiled this list in April. Tweleve 2010 MLB players were older than me. How many will be back next year? 1 Jamie Moyer -- Phillies --18-Nov-62 2 Tim Wakefield -- Red Sox --2-Aug-66 3 Omar Vizquel -- White Sox --24-Apr-67 4 Trevor Hoffman -- Brewers -- 13-Oct-67 5 Matt Stairs -- Padres -- 27-Feb-68 6 Brad Ausmus -- Dodgers -- 14-Apr-69 7 Arthur Rhodes -- Reds -- 24-Oct-69 8 Ken Griffey Jr. -- Mariners -- 21-Nov-69 9 Mariano Rivera-- Yankees -- 29-Nov-69 10 Takashi Saito -- Braves -- 14-Feb-70 11 Jim Edmonds -- Brewers -- 27-Jun-70 12 Mark Grudzielanek -- Indians -- 30-Jun-70
(ted from the cubicle)
Most of them, I think. Next year is Wakefield's last season though. Matt Stairs wants to come back for one more year, at least. Arthur Rhodes is a reliever, so he'll pitch until he can't. (Marc Normandin)
2010-09-13 13:00:00 (link to chat)Hey Jay ..... thanks for the chat. Have you recovered from the "5-Napkin Burger" Friday night? Who is the current leading candidate for the "Irrational Exuberance" HOF candidacy? In other words, who might be the next Jim Rice?
(dianagramr from NYC)
Hey Diana! It took me awhile to recover from the 5-Napkin Burger, but maybe that was all the beer I drank trying to get through the Yanks' drawn out loss later that night.

Right now I'd have to say that it's Omar Vizquel's candidacy that leaves me cold. Keith Law wrote about it at length using JAWS numbers I supplied (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/blog?name=law_keith&id=5410459). The short version is that Vizquel's defensive numbers don't measure up to the average Hall of Fame shortstop let alone those of Ozzie Smith, nor does his bat:

Ozzie Smith: 90.9 car/50.2 Pk/70.6 JAWS/.261 TAv/554 RARP/219 RAP/255 FRAA
Omar Vizquel: 47.8/27.8/37.8/.247/334/-16/84
AVG HOF SS: 70/47.9/59/.274/477/204/105 (Jay Jaffe)
2010-01-06 13:00:00 (link to chat)Are you saddened as I am that the inclusion of Ozzie Smith seems to have helped Omar Vizquel when it could or should have helped Larkin and Trammell?
(Gregor from Bathurst)
Omar's not on the ballot, so we shouldn't worry about his candidacy for at least another six years. I don't think Ozzie's presence in the Hall has any bearing on Larkin and Trammell any more than the presences of Robin Yount and Cal Ripken do. There were a handful of great shortstops playing during the eighties, and some people apparently feel we've enshrined enough of them. (Jay Jaffe)
2009-01-26 14:00:00 (link to chat)Should Elvis Andrus be given the starting job, or should the Rangers suffer through a year of Omar Vizquel?
(birkem3 from Dayton, OH)
B. I think the Rangers are an excellent play for 2010, so wasting a year of Andrus' service time for a team that's not going to compete seems a little nuts and having him learn from Vizquel this spring and in a late-season callup has value that can't be measured on a spreadsheet. (Kevin Goldstein)
2009-01-22 13:00:00 (link to chat)What do you think of the Orioles chances this year, with the addition of Uehara and Pie?
(murber74 from Gaithersburg, MD)
I like both acquisitions. The Orioles need starting pitchers, because the cattle call behind Jeremy Guthrie doesn't engender very much confidence that this team can finish ahead of Norfolk, and because Uehara seems to be the cream of this year's Japanese import crop. As for Pie, I applaud the team's decision to acquire a player with legitimate upside instead of going the Jay Payton route -- the functional equivalent of taking the Barney-guarding job (http://www.snpp.com/episodes/3F14.html) -- and think that he'll benefit with the change of scenery, though putting his bat in left may present problems as it raises the offensive bar a bit.

Memo to the dude who's now submitted the Omar Vizquel question for the fourth time -- I've got it, and you're not improving your chances by clogging the chat queue, you're hurting them. (Jay Jaffe)
2009-01-22 13:00:00 (link to chat)It seems that in a few years, Omar Vizquel will join Rusty Staub and Harold Baines as the only guys with 11,000 PAs who are not in the HOF. My loose understanding of the argument against Omar is that while his counting and rate stats compare favorably with the Wiz, after adjusting for eras he comes out a little short offensively (84 OPS+ to 87), but the big difference is defense. Apparently the gulf between their defensive abilities was so great that Ozzie was a 90%+ slam dunk inner-circle type of election, and Omar isn't even a bubble guy. Two questions: Was Ozzie overvalued when he went in, and if not can you shine some light on the defensive differences? Thanks
(ericturner29 from Chicago)
Ozzie Smith's defensive excellence is well-supported by the numbers, as systems such as WARP and Win Shares both love him. Vizquel is more of a mixed bag. The current iteration of WARP most definitely does NOT love him, but I suspect that the forthcoming play-by-play based system will correct that somewhat; his pbp-based UZR numbers eyeball as pretty decent.
Beyond that it's worth noting that Ozzie does have an advantage over Omar with the stick, via a .261 EQA to .254. IN terms of Batting Runs Above Average, the difference is about 100 runs. (Jay Jaffe)
2008-06-17 15:00:00 (link to chat)JAWS questions! Rafael Palmeiro? (objectively) Gary Sheffield? (ditto) Omar Vizquel? My man Jorge Posada? (You knew it was coming...)
(DrDave from Alexandria VA)
Dr. Dave, glad you could stop by.

Very quickly, Palmeiro does have the numbers (138.4 career, 68.9 peak, 103.7 JAWS) versus a standard of 138.4/68.9/103.7 for HOF 1Bs.

Sheffield is in trouble in that given his injuries, he's not likely to add much to his numbers (117.2/63.5/90.4) which are a bit short of the Hall standard for RFs (125.0/68.7/96.8).

Vizquel I get asked about rather frequently. I covered this last year (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=332), and since then the distance between him (79.3 overall) and the SS standard (96.6) has actually increased.

Posada has the peak (80.4/62.6/71.5 versus a standard of 98.9/60.8/79.9) and if he can stay healthy I think he's got a shot. But as this year has already shown, staying healthy will present a major challenge as he approaches 40. (Jay Jaffe)
2008-01-17 14:00:00 (link to chat)Christina, Reading the TA religiously (or so) I notice that the Giants have almost not been included at all this offseason, barring the Rowand signing. A quick bit of research tells me that inking Rowand is all they have done. Why haven't they done anything else? Lord knows they need changes. Thanks for answering and keep up the great work!
(rawagman from Work)
Many thanks, rawagman, and yes, the Giants have done a pretty good impression of Rip Van Winkle this winter, although they did get Omar Vizquel to stick around. The real question I have is what illicit substances must be in use to inform the suggestion that Kevin Frandsen could be their starting third baseman. It's really minor roster embroidery, but I'd rather they picked up somebody to help at the corners, so that at least they could play along as far as being a major league team. (Christina Kahrl)
2008-01-10 13:00:00 (link to chat)Future overrated in HOF vote: Omar Vizquel?
(ElAngelo from White Plains NY)
He's a better Dave Concepcion. Vizquel versus Trammell might be an interesting discussion.

One of the problems with evaluating shortstops for the Hall is agreeing on measurements of defensive performance.

Oh, and the guy I think is going to get hosed is Barry Larkin. (Joe Sheehan)


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