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Career Summary
Years PA AVG OBP SLG TAv WARP
23 10313 .276 .402 .554 .317 67.3
Birth Date8-27-1970
Height6' 4"
Weight250 lbs
Age47 years, 5 months, 25 days
BatsL
ThrowsR
WARP Summary

MLB Statistics

YEAR TEAM AGE G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR TB BB SO HBP SF SH RBI SB CS AVG OBP SLG TAv VORP FRAA WARP
1991 CLE 20 27 104 98 7 25 4 2 1 36 5 16 1 0 0 9 1 1 .255 .298 .367 .236 0.2 -0.4 -0.0
1992 CLE 21 40 131 117 8 24 3 1 2 35 10 34 2 2 0 12 2 0 .205 .275 .299 .219 -0.9 0.0 -0.1
1993 CLE 22 47 192 154 28 41 11 0 7 73 29 36 4 5 0 22 2 1 .266 .385 .474 .297 15.2 -1.2 1.4
1994 CLE 23 98 369 321 58 86 20 1 20 168 46 84 0 1 1 52 3 3 .268 .359 .523 .290 23.3 6.1 2.8
1995 CLE 24 137 557 452 92 142 29 3 25 252 97 113 5 3 0 73 4 3 .314 .438 .558 .336 62.0 -11.1 5.0
1996 CLE 25 151 636 505 122 157 28 5 38 309 123 141 6 2 0 116 2 2 .311 .450 .612 .346 80.1 -2.2 7.4
1997 CLE 26 147 627 496 104 142 25 0 40 287 120 146 3 8 0 102 1 1 .286 .423 .579 .339 60.6 -10.9 4.9
1998 CLE 27 123 537 440 89 129 34 2 30 257 89 141 4 4 0 85 1 0 .293 .413 .584 .323 40.1 -3.1 3.6
1999 CLE 28 146 629 494 101 137 27 2 33 267 127 171 4 4 0 108 0 0 .277 .426 .540 .313 40.8 2.3 4.1
2000 CLE 29 158 684 557 106 150 33 1 37 296 118 171 4 5 0 106 1 0 .269 .398 .531 .297 35.6 3.1 3.6
2001 CLE 30 156 644 526 101 153 26 1 49 328 111 185 4 3 0 124 0 1 .291 .416 .624 .332 55.4 -8.5 4.6
2002 CLE 31 147 613 480 101 146 19 2 52 325 122 139 5 6 0 118 1 2 .304 .445 .677 .375 77.7 -9.9 6.8
2003 PHI 32 159 698 578 111 154 30 3 47 331 111 182 4 5 0 131 0 3 .266 .385 .573 .329 51.2 -7.7 4.3
2004 PHI 33 143 618 508 97 139 28 1 42 295 104 144 2 4 0 105 0 2 .274 .396 .581 .319 40.1 -7.1 3.2
2005 PHI 34 59 242 193 26 40 7 0 7 68 45 59 2 2 0 30 0 0 .207 .360 .352 .261 -0.6 -1.6 -0.2
2006 CHA 35 143 610 490 108 141 26 0 42 293 107 147 6 7 0 109 0 0 .288 .416 .598 .316 44.1 -0.3 4.3
2007 CHA 36 130 536 432 79 119 19 0 35 243 95 134 6 3 0 96 0 1 .275 .410 .562 .323 40.8 -0.0 4.0
2008 CHA 37 149 602 503 93 123 28 0 34 253 91 147 4 4 0 90 1 0 .245 .362 .503 .284 23.1 0.0 2.3
2009 CHA 38 107 417 345 55 86 15 0 23 170 69 116 0 3 0 74 0 0 .249 .372 .493 .290 11.0 0.0 1.1
2009 LAN 38 17 17 17 0 4 0 0 0 4 0 7 0 0 0 3 0 0 .235 .235 .235 .180 -1.0 0.0 -0.1
2010 MIN 39 108 340 276 48 78 16 2 25 173 60 82 2 2 0 59 0 0 .283 .412 .627 .333 25.6 0.0 2.7
2011 CLE 40 22 82 71 11 21 4 0 3 34 11 23 0 0 0 10 0 0 .296 .390 .479 .308 5.0 0.0 0.5
2011 MIN 40 71 242 206 21 50 12 0 12 98 35 69 0 1 0 40 0 0 .243 .351 .476 .290 5.9 0.0 0.6
2012 BAL 41 28 115 101 8 26 5 0 3 40 14 40 0 0 0 10 0 0 .257 .348 .396 .258 0.1 0.0 0.0
2012 PHI 41 30 71 62 9 15 2 0 5 32 8 21 1 0 0 15 0 0 .242 .338 .516 .284 3.3 0.2 0.4
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Statistics for All Levels

'opp' stats - Quality of opponents faced - have been moved and are available only as OPP_QUAL in the Statistics reports now.
Minor league stats are currently shownClick to hide.
YEAR Team Lg G PA TAv oppAVG oppOBP oppSLG oppTAv BABIP BPF BRAA repLVL POS_ADJ FRAA BRR BVORP BWARP VORP WARP
1990 KIN A+ 33 143 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .368 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1990 BNC Rk 34 149 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .364 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1991 CLE MLB 27 104 .236 .258 .318 .385 .258 .296 98 -2.5 2.8 0.4 -0.4 -0.5 0.2 -0.0 0.2 -0.0
1991 CAN AA 84 345 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .407 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1991 CSP AAA 41 166 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .342 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1992 CLE MLB 40 131 .219 .256 .318 .375 .258 .265 107 -5.1 3.4 0.5 0.0 0.4 -0.9 -0.1 -0.9 -0.1
1992 CAN AA 30 132 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .461 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1992 CSP AAA 12 55 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .433 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1993 CLE MLB 47 192 .297 .261 .333 .395 .259 .293 103 7.7 5.5 0.7 -1.2 1.2 15.2 1.4 15.2 1.4
1993 CHR AAA 115 497 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .381 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
1994 CLE MLB 98 369 .290 .277 .346 .439 .269 .303 101 12.6 11.2 1.5 6.1 -2.0 23.3 2.8 23.3 2.8
1995 CLE MLB 137 557 .336 .271 .344 .429 .267 .369 98 46.9 16.7 2.2 -11.1 -3.8 62.0 5.0 62.0 5.0
1996 CLE MLB 151 636 .346 .277 .348 .445 .269 .363 100 63.3 19.7 2.6 -2.2 -5.4 80.1 7.4 80.1 7.4
1997 CLE MLB 147 627 .339 .276 .343 .435 .269 .321 97 54.3 17.3 -11.8 -10.9 0.8 60.6 4.9 60.6 4.9
1998 CLE MLB 123 537 .323 .270 .335 .429 .265 .363 102 37 14.6 -10.2 -3.1 -1.3 40.1 3.6 40.1 3.6
1999 CLE MLB 146 629 .313 .271 .343 .432 .262 .354 104 39.4 17.6 -12.5 2.3 -3.6 40.8 4.1 40.8 4.1
2000 CLE MLB 158 684 .297 .277 .347 .448 .265 .319 99 30.4 19.4 -13.7 3.1 -0.4 35.6 3.6 35.6 3.6
2001 CLE MLB 156 644 .332 .267 .335 .431 .263 .353 102 50.4 17.6 -12.2 -8.5 -0.5 55.4 4.6 55.4 4.6
2002 CLE MLB 147 613 .375 .263 .326 .425 .263 .319 100 75 16.4 -11.3 -9.9 -2.3 77.7 6.8 77.7 6.8
2003 PHI MLB 159 698 .329 .264 .330 .421 .260 .302 96 52.2 18.4 -13.1 -7.7 -6.3 51.2 4.3 51.2 4.3
2004 PHI MLB 143 618 .319 .264 .332 .422 .263 .298 97 40.5 18.4 -11.8 -7.1 -7.0 40.1 3.2 40.1 3.2
2005 PHI MLB 59 242 .261 .270 .337 .416 .265 .256 99 0.4 7.0 -4.4 -1.6 -3.5 -0.6 -0.2 -0.6 -0.2
2005 CLR A+ 5 18 .000 .000 .000 .000 .000 .300 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
2006 CHA MLB 143 610 .316 .270 .334 .430 .256 .321 111 38.3 18.4 -11.7 -0.3 -0.9 44.1 4.3 44.1 4.3
2007 CHA MLB 130 536 .323 .269 .333 .422 .262 .316 102 37.5 15.9 -10.1 -0.0 -2.5 40.8 4.0 40.8 4.0
2007 CHR AAA 5 20 .316 .278 .349 .427 .272 .273 96 1.2 0.6 -0.4 0.0 -0.1 1.4 0.1 1.4 0.1
2008 CHA MLB 149 602 .284 .263 .332 .414 .259 .273 104 15.7 17.4 -11 0.0 0.9 23.1 2.3 23.1 2.3
2009 CHA MLB 107 417 .290 .265 .332 .425 .260 .301 107 13.4 12.0 -7.5 0.0 -6.9 11.0 1.1 11.0 1.1
2009 LAN MLB 17 17 .180 .243 .322 .373 .251 .400 85 -1.4 0.5 0 0.0 0.0 -1.0 -0.1 -1.0 -0.1
2010 MIN MLB 108 340 .333 .254 .325 .394 .253 .310 109 25.3 9.4 -5.5 0.0 -3.5 25.6 2.7 25.6 2.7
2011 CLE MLB 22 82 .308 .257 .318 .401 .257 .400 103 3.9 2.2 -1.4 0.0 0.3 5.0 0.5 5.0 0.5
2011 MIN MLB 71 242 .290 .252 .315 .395 .256 .302 104 7.2 6.5 -4 0.0 -3.8 5.9 0.6 5.9 0.6
2012 BAL MLB 28 115 .258 .255 .313 .411 .259 .397 101 -0.3 3.1 -2 0.0 -0.7 0.1 0.0 0.1 0.0
2012 PHI MLB 30 71 .284 .251 .318 .401 .258 .278 103 1.7 1.9 -0.9 0.2 0.6 3.3 0.4 3.3 0.4
2012 CLR A+ 3 13 .416 .271 .320 .404 .263 .625 109 2.2 0.4 -0.2 0.0 -0.5 1.9 0.2 1.9 0.2

Statistics For All Levels

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Year Team Lg PA R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG ISO TAv VORP FRAA WARP
1990 KIN A+ 143 19 36 4 1 4 16 24 26 4 1 .308 .430 .462 .154 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1990 BNC Rk 149 31 44 7 1 12 34 27 18 6 3 .373 .503 .754 .381 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1991 CAN AA 345 47 99 20 2 5 45 44 58 8 2 .337 .430 .469 .133 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1991 CLE MLB 104 7 25 4 2 1 9 5 16 1 1 .255 .298 .367 .112 .236 0.2 -0.4 -0.0
1991 CSP AAA 166 20 43 7 3 2 28 12 29 0 0 .285 .337 .411 .126 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1992 CAN AA 132 16 36 9 2 1 14 24 30 0 2 .336 .462 .486 .150 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1992 CLE MLB 131 8 24 3 1 2 12 10 34 2 0 .205 .275 .299 .094 .219 -0.9 0.0 -0.1
1992 CSP AAA 55 11 15 4 1 2 14 6 16 0 0 .312 .400 .562 .250 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1993 CHR AAA 497 85 136 21 4 25 102 76 94 1 3 .332 .444 .585 .254 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
1993 CLE MLB 192 28 41 11 0 7 22 29 36 2 1 .266 .385 .474 .208 .297 15.2 -1.2 1.4
1994 CLE MLB 369 58 86 20 1 20 52 46 84 3 3 .268 .359 .523 .255 .290 23.3 6.1 2.8
1995 CLE MLB 557 92 142 29 3 25 73 97 113 4 3 .314 .438 .558 .243 .336 62.0 -11.1 5.0
1996 CLE MLB 636 122 157 28 5 38 116 123 141 2 2 .311 .450 .612 .301 .346 80.1 -2.2 7.4
1997 CLE MLB 627 104 142 25 0 40 102 120 146 1 1 .286 .423 .579 .292 .339 60.6 -10.9 4.9
1998 CLE MLB 537 89 129 34 2 30 85 89 141 1 0 .293 .413 .584 .291 .323 40.1 -3.1 3.6
1999 CLE MLB 629 101 137 27 2 33 108 127 171 0 0 .277 .426 .540 .263 .313 40.8 2.3 4.1
2000 CLE MLB 684 106 150 33 1 37 106 118 171 1 0 .269 .398 .531 .262 .297 35.6 3.1 3.6
2001 CLE MLB 644 101 153 26 1 49 124 111 185 0 1 .291 .416 .624 .333 .332 55.4 -8.5 4.6
2002 CLE MLB 613 101 146 19 2 52 118 122 139 1 2 .304 .445 .677 .373 .375 77.7 -9.9 6.8
2003 PHI MLB 698 111 154 30 3 47 131 111 182 0 3 .266 .385 .573 .306 .329 51.2 -7.7 4.3
2004 PHI MLB 618 97 139 28 1 42 105 104 144 0 2 .274 .396 .581 .307 .319 40.1 -7.1 3.2
2005 PHI MLB 242 26 40 7 0 7 30 45 59 0 0 .207 .360 .352 .145 .261 -0.6 -1.6 -0.2
2005 CLR A+ 18 2 4 0 0 1 3 6 1 0 0 .333 .556 .583 .250 .000 0.0 0.0 0.0
2006 CHA MLB 610 108 141 26 0 42 109 107 147 0 0 .288 .416 .598 .310 .316 44.1 -0.3 4.3
2007 CHA MLB 536 79 119 19 0 35 96 95 134 0 1 .275 .410 .562 .287 .323 40.8 -0.0 4.0
2007 CHR AAA 20 2 3 1 0 0 5 6 3 0 0 .214 .450 .286 .071 .316 1.4 0.0 0.1
2008 CHA MLB 602 93 123 28 0 34 90 91 147 1 0 .245 .362 .503 .258 .284 23.1 0.0 2.3
2009 LAN MLB 17 0 4 0 0 0 3 0 7 0 0 .235 .235 .235 .000 .180 -1.0 0.0 -0.1
2009 CHA MLB 417 55 86 15 0 23 74 69 116 0 0 .249 .372 .493 .243 .290 11.0 0.0 1.1
2010 MIN MLB 340 48 78 16 2 25 59 60 82 0 0 .283 .412 .627 .344 .333 25.6 0.0 2.7
2011 MIN MLB 242 21 50 12 0 12 40 35 69 0 0 .243 .351 .476 .233 .290 5.9 0.0 0.6
2011 CLE MLB 82 11 21 4 0 3 10 11 23 0 0 .296 .390 .479 .183 .308 5.0 0.0 0.5
2012 CLR A+ 13 3 5 2 0 0 4 3 2 0 0 .500 .615 .700 .200 .416 1.9 0.0 0.2
2012 PHI MLB 71 9 15 2 0 5 15 8 21 0 0 .242 .338 .516 .274 .284 3.3 0.2 0.4
2012 BAL MLB 115 8 26 5 0 3 10 14 40 0 0 .257 .348 .396 .139 .258 0.1 0.0 0.0

Plate Discipline

YEAR PITCHES ZONE_RT SWING_RT CONTACT_RT Z_SWING_RT O_SWING_RT Z_CONTACT_RT O_CONTACT_RT SW_STRK_RT CSAA_CHANCES CSAA_RT
2008 2343 0.4772 0.3982 0.6977 0.5912 0.2220 0.7685 0.5257 0.3023 1123 0.001151
2009 1770 0.4972 0.4006 0.6911 0.5795 0.2236 0.7627 0.5075 0.3089 870 0.001448
2010 1405 0.4769 0.3836 0.6883 0.5806 0.2041 0.7584 0.5067 0.3117 711 -0.002158
2011 1385 0.4989 0.3755 0.6981 0.5644 0.1873 0.7846 0.4385 0.3019 717 0.000365
2012 749 0.5207 0.4206 0.6540 0.6513 0.1699 0.7165 0.3934 0.3460 360 0.008139
Career76520.490.39420.69020.58760.20770.76310.48930.3098840.65980.0012

Injury History  —  No longer being updated

Last Update: 12/31/2014 23:59 ET

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
2012-07-28 2012-09-21 15-DL 55 49 - Neck Cartilage Injury Herniated Disc - -
2012-04-29 2012-06-06 15-DL 38 36 - Low Back Strain - -
2011-08-05 2011-08-06 DTD 1 1 - Neck Stiffness - -
2011-07-08 2011-07-09 DTD 1 1 - Soreness - -
2011-06-18 2011-06-18 On-Alr 0 0 General Medical Illness Flu -
2011-06-10 2011-06-10 On-Alr 0 0 - Low Back Soreness Epidural 2011-06-10 -
2011-06-02 2011-06-25 15-DL 23 20 Thigh Strain Quadriceps -
2011-05-01 2011-05-23 15-DL 22 19 Left Abdomen Strain Oblique -
2011-04-25 2011-04-30 DTD 5 4 Left Abdomen Strain Oblique -
2010-09-22 2010-10-01 DTD 9 8 Low Back Stiffness -
2010-09-08 2010-09-11 DTD 3 2 Low Back Soreness -
2010-08-29 2010-09-01 DTD 3 2 Low Back Stiffness -
2010-08-24 2010-08-24 DTD 0 0 Thigh Contusion HBP -
2009-09-07 2009-09-14 DTD 7 6 Left Foot Strain Plantar Fascia -
2009-08-17 2009-08-21 DTD 4 3 Left Foot Inflammation Plantar Fascia -
2009-07-27 2009-07-30 DTD 3 3 Back Soreness -
2009-04-27 2009-05-01 DTD 4 3 Left Foot Inflammation Plantar Fascia -
2009-03-07 2009-03-15 Camp 8 0 Low Back Tightness -
2008-08-20 2008-08-20 DTD 0 0 Right Lower Leg Tightness -
2008-06-12 2008-06-14 DTD 2 2 Low Back Spasms -
2007-08-23 2007-08-26 DTD 3 3 Low Back Spasms -
2007-08-03 2007-08-04 DTD 1 1 Low Back Spasms -
2007-06-19 2007-06-22 DTD 3 2 Low Back Spasms -
2007-04-28 2007-05-20 15-DL 22 18 Right Trunk Strain Rib Cage -
2006-08-24 2006-08-30 DTD 6 5 Left Thigh Strain Hamstring -
2006-07-30 2006-08-04 DTD 5 4 Right Wrist Inflammation -
2006-06-02 2006-06-06 DTD 4 3 Left Groin Strain -
2005-07-01 2005-10-03 60-DL 94 83 Right Elbow Surgery Frayed Tendon 2005-08-16
2005-05-01 2005-05-21 15-DL 20 19 Low Back Inflammation Old Fracture -
2005-03-26 2005-03-29 Camp 3 0 Low Back Strain -
2004-09-16 2004-09-19 DTD 3 2 Chest Contusion -
2004-08-14 2004-08-17 DTD 3 2 Right Shoulder Contusion Clavicle -
2004-07-27 2004-07-27 DTD 0 0 General Medical Illness -
2004-05-19 2004-05-25 DTD 6 5 Right Fingers Sprain Index Finger -
2004-05-11 2004-05-11 DTD 0 0 Left Thumb Sprain Thumb -
2004-05-01 2004-05-02 DTD 1 1 Left Thumb Soreness Thumb -
2004-04-12 2004-04-12 DTD 0 0 Left Thumb Hyperextension Thumb -
2004-03-07 2004-03-26 Camp 19 0 Right Fingers Fracture Distal Middle Finger -
2003-07-09 2003-07-10 DTD 1 1 Low Back Soreness -
1998-08-08 1998-09-16 15-DL 39 35 Right Hand Fracture Fifth Metacarpal HBP - -
1996-10-30 1996-10-30 Off 0 0 Right Wrist Surgery Hamate Frature 1996-10-30 -
1996-10-02 1996-10-02 DTD 0 0 Right Wrist Fracture Hamate - -
1992-05-20 1992-06-26 15-DL 37 32 Right Shoulder Strain - -
1992-04-06 1992-05-18 15-DL 42 38 Right Wrist Strain - -

Compensation

Year Team Salary
2012 PHI $1,250,000
2011 MIN $3,000,000
2010 MIN $1,500,000
2009 CHA $13,000,000
2008 CHA $15,666,667
2007 CHA $14,833,333
2006 CHA $14,166,667
2005 PHI $13,166,667
2004 PHI $12,166,667
2003 PHI $11,166,667
2002 CLE $8,000,000
2001 CLE $7,850,000
2000 CLE $7,850,000
YearsDescriptionSalary
13 yrPrevious$123,616,668
13 yrTotal$123,616,668

 

Service TimeAgentContract Status
20 y 42 dPat Rooney SFX1 year/$1.25M (2012)

Details
  • 1 year/$1.25M (2012). Signed by Philadelphia as a free agent 11/4/11. Performance bonuses: $50,000 each for 175, 200, 225, 250, 275 plate appearances. Acquired by Baltimore in trade from Philadelphia 7/1/12.
  • 1 year/$3M (2011). Re-signed by Minnesota as a free agent 1/14/11. Performance bonuses based on PAs. No-trade protection. Acquired by Cleveland in trade from Minnesota 8/25/11 (waived no-trade clause).
  • 1 year/$1.5M (2010). Signed by Minnesota as a free agent 1/25/10. Performance bonuses: $0.1M each for 250, 300, 350 PAs. $0.15M each for 400, 450, 500 PAs.
  • 6 years/$85M (2003-08), plus 2009 club option. Signed by Philadelphia as a free agent 12/02. $10M signing bonus. 03:$9.5M, 04:$10.5M, 05:$11.5M, 06:$12.5M, 07:$14M, 08:$14M, 09:$13M club option, $3M buyout. Option guaranteed with 600 PAs in 2007 or 1,100 PAs in 2007-08 (met 2008). Award bonuses. No-trade clause (waived 11/05). Acquired by Chicago White Sox in trade from Philadelphia 11/05 (Phillies paid $22M to Chicago in deal). Acquired by LA Dodgers in trade from Chicago 8/31/09 (White Sox paid about $1.4M of $2.415M in remaining salary).
  • 3 years/$21M (1999-2001), plus 2002 club option. Signed extension with Cleveland. 99:$7M, 00:$7M, 01:$7M, 02:$7.5M club option. Performance bonuses based on rank in MVP vote. Cleveland exercised option 2001.
  • 4 years (1994-97), plus 1998 club option. Signed extension with Cleveland 3/94.
  • 1 year/$0.135M (1993). Re-signed by Cleveland.
  • Drafted by Cleveland 1989 (13-331) (Illinois Central College).

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DateQuestionAnswer
2017-10-12 20:00:00 (link to chat)Please grade all the Gio Gonzalez's trades
(K. Williams from Chicago, IL)
The first one, where the White Sox got Jim Thome, was fantastic! Tough to give up Rowand and Gio but hey, Jim.

And then they got Gio back for Freddy Garcia who was fairly cooked at that point--nice work! Especially with Gavin Floyd too.

Heck, even trading him with De Los Santos and Sweeney for Swisher wasn't the woooooorst idea. It became the worst idea ever when Swisher was traded for a pile of old TV guides though. What were you doing, Kenneth? (Nick Schaefer)
2014-01-21 18:00:00 (link to chat)Is Vogelbach strictly a trade chip for the Cubs? Also, ETA on Almora?
(Jack from Chicago)
I'm afraid to answer any Vogelbach questions without angering my colleague Bret Sayre. These situations tend to work themselves out; remember how people used to wring their hands about Ryan Howard in Philadelphia when Jim Thome was locked in? I suppose the Cubs could move him, but it would take a lot.

My educated guess on Albert Almora would be 2015. (Mike Gianella)
2013-06-13 13:00:00 (link to chat)So if Gallo cuts down on his Ks he will grown into a Jim Thome. I actually don't think that sounds too crazy. You?
(Jim from NY)
I think the most accurate comp is probably an Adam Dunn type. (Jason Cole)
2013-01-14 14:00:00 (link to chat)In your "Overthinking" article, you tabbed the Rays as the team that you think should sign Hafner this offseason. Other than age, what is the difference between Jim Thome and Travis Hafner these days? With Hafner's injury-riddled past, wouldn't it be "safer" to go with an older and somewhat consistent Thome instead?
(jlarsen from chicago)
I love Thome, but I think he's reached an age at which even Hafner is a better bet to stay healthy. Thome just hasn't been able to avoid the DL over the last couple seasons (and yes, I know that's true of Hafner, too). For what it's worth, PECOTA projects Thome for a TAv about 10 points higher. (Ben Lindbergh)
2013-01-16 13:30:00 (link to chat)This is what I'm talking about. Maybe Singleton can hit .280, like when his BABIP spikes and he's 28, but looking at his profile it's hard to see him hitting more than about .250 or.260, year to year. Jim Thome and Ryan Howard both hit over .300 in the minors. Don't you think Singleton would have to make some sort of change before we can forecast him for anything like .280 with 25 homers?
(flyingdutchman from Oakland, CA)
Part of projecting a prospect to the major league level is the attempt at projecting what steps/adjustments they are capable of making as they develop. I think Singleton has the feel for hitting and the overall approach to ultimately hit .280 consistently at the big league level. If he hits at that level, the power will absolutely play in the 25-home range. (Mark Anderson)
2012-06-29 13:00:00 (link to chat)From the Indians in 90s, who on their roster had the most value?
(Paul from DC)
Offhand I'd guess Jim Thome was the most valuable during their run, followed by Albert Belle, who didn't stay for all of it, and Manny Ramirez, who was limited by his defense (not that Thome wasn't). I don't have the means to run a query at the moment to confirm this, but I'll see if I can get to something like that soon. (Jay Jaffe)
2012-05-07 13:00:00 (link to chat)How many homers will Jim Thome hit for the White Sox next year as he continues his "once more with feeling" tour of major-league baseball?
(Jake from Joliet)
However many it takes to convince Jim and the league that he should keep playing for a few more years. (R.J. Anderson)
2012-04-13 13:00:00 (link to chat)Good chat. Over the last 15 - 20 years, who are some of your favorite players to go to the ballpark and see play and why?
(Jerome from T Hills)
Some of them are obvious - warts and all, I'm thrilled that I've gotten to see Derek Jeter and Alex Rodriguez as often as I have over the years - both have provided some incredible moments. Mariano Rivera, of course. I'm lucky to have seen Tim Raines and Rickey Henderson relatively late in their careers. Ken Griffey Jr., Edgar Martinez, Jay Buhner and Randy Johnson were pretty special because the Mariners were a favorite before I came to New York, and a common point of reference for me and my brother. Manny Ramirez, when he was still an Indian, was a lot of fun. Jim Thome was a beast who seemed to homer every time he came to town.

Going further back, I'm thrilled I got to see Fernando Valenzuela pitch in person, even if it was only spring training. Likewise for seeing Reggie Jackson in spring training - both were huge parts of my childhood and adolesence. My first regular season major league game was Roger Clemens vs. Nolan Ryan in 1989 (read about it in today's column). That was incredibly special in retrospect because Ryan always meant a great deal to me.

I'm sure I've forgotten somebody, but that's a good start. (Jay Jaffe)
2011-09-20 13:00:00 (link to chat)Jay, If a player's career ended after the 2011 season (compared to if his career had ended a year earlier), who most significantly raised his chances of eventually making it into the Hall of Fame? I'm just asking for conversational purposes -- no need to generate JAWS scores.
(Detroit Michael from Detroit, MI)
Jim Thome reaching the 600-homer plateau, with all of the extra attention it brought him, probably sealed the deal. And of course now Mariano Rivera has the saves record, so he's obviously in ;-) (Jay Jaffe)
2011-08-26 16:00:00 (link to chat)Does the Tribe's acquisition of Jim Thome change the AL Central race in your eyes?
(The Osa from Cleveland)
Thome is a great guy and a nice story, but I still think that race will come down to pitching. (John Coppolella)
2011-08-16 17:00:00 (link to chat)Give me a good reason why the city of Tampa Bay deserves a team like the Rays.
(Bud Selig from New York)
Because they were top five in radio and television last season - better ratings than the die-hard fanbase is Los Angeles and Boston. I don't know if you saw the video highlight of Jim Thome's 1st career home run, but it came in an early September game at Yankee Stadium that had 14,000 people in it. If an area that has 10.5% unemployment and 4.5 million people within an hour can get 12K to a meaningless Rays/Royals tilt, certainly an area with 14 million can draw more than 14K to any game, no? Oh yea, GIVE ME REPLAY ALREADY! (Jason Collette)
2011-04-05 13:00:00 (link to chat)With Brendan Ryan and Jack Wilson manning the middle infield, the Mariners seem to have gone overboard in their attempts to improve their defense at the expense of their offense. I know a run saved is just as valuable as a run scored, but isn't the spread of runs produced by hitters wider than the spread of runs saved by fielders, making a focus on improving defense less beneficial than a focus on improving offense, especially for a team as offensively challened as the Mariners? (Excepting, of course, the idea of someone like Jim Thome playing shortstop).
(Jambois from Middleburg)
I wonder if the Ryan-Wilson tandem was as much a reaction to available talent as a doubling down on last year's gloves uber alles strategy. As I said, there's not a ton of middle infield talent out there right now. That said, I think your formulation is pretty much correct. Arguably, no team of the last 40 years needed an offensive infusion more than the Mariners, whose 2010 offense ranks among the worst in the history of the game. (Steven Goldman)
2011-02-08 14:00:00 (link to chat)Are the White Sox too "station-to-station" or do Ramirez, Beckham, and Rios provide enough athleticism to keep them from being a high-priced softball team? Also, do you see Peavy approaching anywhere near effectiveness this year?
(richardkr34 from Saint Paul)
Let me admit my bias: I love high-priced softball teams, like the '83 Sox and the Daulton/Kruk Phillies. Speed on the bases is nice, but avoiding outs and hitting home runs is more important. Would the Sox have been better last year with the lumbering carcass of Jim Thome at the plate and on the basepaths? Apparently Ozzie didn't think so, but he was wrong.

That being said, the speed of Ramirez, Beckham and Rios is certainly nice to have. (Ken Funck)
2011-03-02 13:00:00 (link to chat)Who are your favorite players to watch this season? Who ya rootin' for?
(Goo Goo the Cat from Prowlin' Around, PA)
Rooting for? Well, I suppose I'm no supposed to root for players, but c'mon, how can you help it? I'm hoping to see John Danks bust out and get the sort of attention he deserves, and for Gordon Beckham to put everything together and be the star we thought he'd be. I want to see Wandy Rodriguez deliver that back half over a full season. I'm looking forward to seeing Carlos Zambrano get back to being in the news for his pitching. I'm wondering if Andy LaRoche puts up more WARP than any other NRI in anybody's camp if he can win the A's job at third base. I want to see Jim Thome's 600th career home run in person. I want to enjoy a full season of Starlin Castro at shortstop, having had to spend too much time away from Chicago last summer. I want to see what Mike Stanton and Logan Morrison do for the Fish, since that's about as entertaining a tandem of hitting prospects of similar vintage on any team anywhere. That's a few, but there are more. (Christina Kahrl)
2011-01-18 13:00:00 (link to chat)who is the 1 FA who has surprised you in terms of not yet finding a home for 2011?
(frank from vegas)
It was Jim Thome. At this point I would say Manny Ramirez. Not because I expect him to be fantastic, but because from almost day one of free agency, he and Scott Boras basically said "Will work for food", and there are plenty of teams who could use a DH willing to post a .400 OBP on the cheap. (Marc Normandin)
2011-01-18 13:00:00 (link to chat)It's the baseball apocalypse. You can only pick five current major league ballplayers to save. You don't have to base it on stats or team or likeability or anything. Who do you pick?
(hannah from bay area)
What a question! I love watching Adrian Gonzalez hit, so I would like that to continue. Logan Morrison's Twitter account has guaranteed him a spot in this Final Five. Jim Thome can be saved, but only if he promises to sit in BP and hit taters all day long for my amusement as repayment for doing so. Someone needs to pitch to these guys, so it should be Jamie Moyer if for no other reason than he's Jamie Moyer. Willie Bloomquist would probably survive whether I picked him or not. Maybe he's baseball's version of the cockroach. (Marc Normandin)
2010-11-23 13:00:00 (link to chat)Most likely landing place for Manny in 2011?
(garethbluejays2 from Newcastle, UK)
Unless something's changed in the past week or so, the Toronto rumors make sense. Beyond that, obviously, it's going to be an AL team with a DH opening. Maybe Minnesota if Jim Thome doesn't come back, or Tampa Bay if his price comes down. (Jay Jaffe)
2010-11-23 13:00:00 (link to chat)What was teh last deal you were wild about?
(Tonyu from Albuquerque)
Jim Thome to Minnesota for 1 year, $1.5 million, probably. Andy Pettite 1 year, $5.5 million for 2009 was pretty sweet, too. (Jay Jaffe)
2010-11-09 14:00:00 (link to chat)Just how big is Sandoval's ass? What about Jim Thome's?
(biteme from Lake Forest)
It makes Jim Thome's look that that of a 19-year-old runway model. How's that? (Kevin Goldstein)
2010-11-11 13:00:00 (link to chat)Hey Matt, Today in the GM for a Day article on the Red Sox, Jay Jaffe said he would cut bait on David Ortiz and bring in someone else at a lesser cost (he mentioned Jim Thome, Jack Cust and Russell Branyon as possibilities). This struck me as thinking too hard. Sure Ortiz will be over paid, but he's also likely to be better than those guys, and in the end isn't this a perfect opportunity to flex that big payroll? What do you think?
(mattymatty2000 from Portland, OR)
I haven't gotten a chance to read it, but I'll probably hear him out later this afternoon. I certainly wouldn't let Ortiz go this year-- he's a great DH, and he's worth as much to the Red Sox as any team they'd trade him to. Maybe going forward, they might have some concerns before bringing him back in 2012 though. (Matt Swartz)
2010-10-12 12:00:00 (link to chat)The Twins OF is looking mighty crowded. With guys like Ben Revere and Joe Benson (to a lesser extent) knocking on the door, who do think they might try and move in the off-season?
(Tobias from Minnesota)
They've got the option on Kubel at just under $5MM, which is nowhere near the lock it looked like it would be after 2009. There's also the question of Jim Thome, who is just totally and completely awesome in pretty much every way. One possible solution would be to let Kubel DH and make room in right. But that means no more taters for Jimmers. (Tommy Bennett)
2010-10-07 13:00:00 (link to chat)In their prime, who would you rather have in your lineup, Jim Thome or Reggie Jackson?
(Cambridge from Cambridge)
Reggie Jackson by a whisker. He was just such a dynamic hitter and his October record sets for itself. (John Perrotto)
2010-07-23 13:00:00 (link to chat)Where do you rank Jim Thome among possible Hall of Famers? There doesn't seem to be much buzz except from the bees. Care to stir up that nest?
(WARPspeedfreak from Headspace)
I certainly think Thome belongs, and so does JAWS, which had him one point ahead of the 1B standard at the outset of the year. Even so, he's well behind Frank Thomas, Jeff Bagwell, Mark McGwire on the scale, and below Keith Hernandez and Will Clark. Not having an MVP award has led to the perception that he's just an accumulator, and I think he's gonna be a guy whose candidacy gets fought over for little reason. He belongs, though. (Jay Jaffe)
2010-07-26 14:00:00 (link to chat)Why on Earth would the Nats trade Adam Dunn for Edwin Jackson? If they really can't re-sign him, wouldn't compensation picks beat that deal anyway?
(Charlie from Bethesda, MD)
Banking on compensation picks can be a little dicey, since you might not get what you expect depending on who signs where (see: CC Sabathia and the Milwaukee Brewers). I'm not particularly bullish on Jackson, but he does have stuff and can pitch in the majors now, two important things for a Nationals team trying to build some excitement and a brand. I don't think it's that bad a move, depending on what other teams are offering.

For the White Sox part of this thing, it'll be a shame if they have to give up someone like Daniel Hudson to rent Dunn, when they could just as easily have signed an ever-willing Jim Thome last spring. (Ken Funck)
2010-02-09 13:00:00 (link to chat)What's the reasoning behind Ozzie Guillen choosing to go without a real DH? Is he planning on moving Quentin there but he doesn't want to talk about it yet? What gives?
(Cris E from St Paul, MN)
Employing a full-time DH has its cost, not only in payroll but also in the ability to give your position players - particularly those that might be a bit banged up - some rest without losing their bats from the lineup. Not having a full-time DH gives your lineup more flexibility.

Now, as to the particulars of the White Sox lineup, I'd have brought Jim Thome back, because I see a whole lot of holes all over the place. And note with no small amount of glee that Andruw Jones is projected to hit .219/.318/.389. (Jay Jaffe)
2010-01-26 14:00:00 (link to chat)Shouldn't the Twins finally step up and grab a dedicated DH in Jim Thome. He's past prime but for what he'll cost it would surely benefit them to run him out there in 100-120 games vs. righties no? They had BRENDAN HARRIS DH in the playoffs for christ-sakes!
(WilliamWilde from Boston, MA)
I think Thome still has value. It's worth noting, however, that the Twins had the fourth best offense in the league last year. (Tommy Bennett)
2009-12-15 14:00:00 (link to chat)Christina, the White Sox are only paying Pierre $8 million ($3 this year, $5 next year). The Dodgers are picking up the rest.
(JasonC23 from Huntley, IL)
Witness the virtue of waiting to write up a deal on the basis of confirmed reports. ;) That's still not cause to do handstands, but it's certainly better. And give that structure, it doesn't preclude their having a few million to throw Jim Thome's way. (Christina Kahrl)
2009-12-09 13:00:00 (link to chat)How much do you think Mike Cameron, Jim Thome, and Nick Johnson will sign for?
(David from Sonoma State University, CA)
Cameron for two and $22, Johnson for two and $18, Thome...I think will retire. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-10-23 16:00:00 (link to chat)How does Torre not pinch hit Thome for Martin? Defend this decision in 10,000 words or less.
(aaronbailey52 from Alaska)
I can't, and that's without even adding in my disgust for Russell Martin over the last two seasons, but that's a story for another day. You get Jim Thome for that specific situation. Do you think the Phillies traded for Matt Stairs to let Pedro Feliz hit in a spot like that? Even if the Phillies counter with Eyre, I'll trust Thome against Eyre more than Martin vs Madson any day of the week. It was just a very poor decision and an example of planning ahead at the expense of the present moment. (Eric Seidman)
2009-09-24 14:00:00 (link to chat)what do you think Lance Berkman's trajectory is going forward? Is he the type of player who won't age gracefully?
(dscala from manchester, NH )
No, I can see a very slow decline, comparable a bit to Jim Thome's very graceful long goodbye. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-06-11 14:00:00 (link to chat)As an A's fan, i'm counting down the days when chavez contract expires. Did A's possibly get future 3b options in BYU Steve Parker and Cincinnati's Mike Spica?
(shawn from vegas)
Obviously it's POSSIBLE, or they wouldn't have been drafted. Obviously it's DOUBTFUL or they would have gone higher. Right when the draft happens, it's understandable to get hyped about at 11th round pick, but it's still an ELEVENTH ROUND PICK. The guy went 333rd overall, which has gotten you Jim Thome and NO OTHER PLAYER IN HISTORY with more than nine home runs or four wins on the mound. (Kevin Goldstein)
2009-06-08 14:00:00 (link to chat)Since we're on the topic of HOFers and I am currently watching the White Sox, is Jim Thome a hall of famer?
(jalee121 from St. Charles, Illinois)
Hell, yes. He's not done yet, either. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-04-20 13:00:00 (link to chat)What's the ETA on Gordon Beckham. He's been tearing it up in AA. Also, do you see him moving to 2B in the majors? He's still at SS in the minors.
(bam022 from Chicago)
The reason to play him at short is so that you'll move Ramirez to CF, but that presumes Ramirez improves on last year and is better overall than Anderson. I don't think you move Ramirez to 2B, because he's terrible there and the bat doesn't play.

At what point do we scratch our heads and wonder why we're making so many decisions around Alexei Ramirez? Maybe he should be the supersub, starting four days a week at four positions and pinch-running for Jim Thome the other days. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-02-03 13:00:00 (link to chat)Please tell me the Abreu to the White Sox is a joke. I just don't see where he plays and why they want another player past his prime.
(jalee121 from (Normal, Illinois))
He'd help the team OBP, and the White Sox window is basically now, so a good player on a one-year deal for small money is a good idea. Because of the different configuration of US Cellular, you can suffer the bad D he'd create a bit more readily. I mean, they were going to run Ken Griffey Jr. out there last year, so that bridge has been crossed.

Abreu > Konerko, so you could also teach someone first base. Or go back to whatever pawn shop Jim Thome sold his glove to. (Joe Sheehan)
2008-12-11 14:00:00 (link to chat)Thanks for taking the time for the chat. We all know there have been substantial talks with a couple of teams regarding Jermaine Dye, but is there any information on players like Bobby Jenks, Paul Konerko, and Jim Thome, who are all possibilities to be traded this offseason?
(Ben from Work)
It appears that the White Sox are going to hang on to Jenks now and there never seemed to be much of a market for Konerko and Thome, who both have no-trade clauses. (John Perrotto)
2008-11-03 13:30:00 (link to chat)Who has the most gas left in the tank: Adrian Beltre, Jim Thome, Paul Konerko, Raul Ibanez, or Chone Figgins? Which ones would you want on your team in '09?
(McGoldrick from Los Angeles)
That's not really a comparison of like to like, but I'd pick Figgins from among that crew, if only because speed guys seem to retain value wel enough. Beyond that, I'd take Beltre, but I can't say I'm wildly enthusiastic about any of them. It's easier to suggest that I'd put Paulie at the bottom of the pile, and work up from there. (Christina Kahrl)
2008-10-17 13:00:00 (link to chat)How do I improve my offense in the off season?
(Kenny Williams from California)
Was there anything really wrong with it? It was predicated on the home run and I'd like to see more focus on some on-base guys, but I could say that about 20 teams. A healthy Carlos Quentin, a more experienced Alexei Ramirez, and hope that they can get similar performances from Jim Thome and Jermaine Dye is their big hope. That's going to be a really tough division next year and I think the Sox have more room to improve than most of the other teams there. (Will Carroll)
2008-03-31 13:00:00 (link to chat)How about our Opening D(el)ay today?
(BrettG from Worthington, OH)
White Sox 2, Indians 0 in the bottom of the first. Sabathia gave up a HR to Jim Thome (#508). Let's automatically jump to the conclusion that Sabathia is still tired from last year and/or pitching tight because of his contract situation. Someone will. (Steven Goldman)
2008-01-29 16:00:00 (link to chat)What's your take on Colby Rasmus and when do you expect him in the majors.
(Mike from St.Louis)
In our celebrity Scoresheet League we ran last season, I drafted Rasmus late in the draft, and then when I needed to trade for a thumper late in the year, I traded Andrew McCutchen for Jim Thome rather than give up Rasmus. So I think he's a stud. If Jay Bruce is Larry Walker, Rasmus is Larry Walker Lite. Just temper your expectations for 2008. (Rany Jazayerli)
2008-01-23 13:00:00 (link to chat)What says Pecota on Alex Gordon? More or less an extension of his 2nd half?
(dtimmeny from NYC)
More or less: we have him at .270/.346/.465. What's a little discouraging is that it doesn't see him getting a whole heck of a lot better hereafter: his peak is projected to come in 2010 at .271/.357/.475. He could be an always-a-bridesmaid type of player. With that said, there are still a couple of very encouraging names like Jim Thome lower down his comp list. (Nate Silver)
2008-01-10 13:00:00 (link to chat)Alright, what about any current players likely to be underrated by HoF voters? Craig Biggio?
(Nick from NYC)
Lots, I think. Not Biggio, who has the "scrappy" card, and reached the magic number he didn't really need.

A whole bunch of pitchers whose win totals reflect the changes in the game stand to be judged harshly: Mussina jumps out at me as the vanguard of this group.

There are some players, such as Jim Thome, who are more than qualified but who may find themselves struggling to get in as voters overcompensate for the era. Note that this DIDN'T happen for pitchers who played in the 1962-68 period, because preventing runs is morally superior to producing them.

Especially on deadline. (Joe Sheehan)


BP Roundtables

DateRoundtable NameComment
2009-11-02 17:00:002009 WS Game FiveThe poor man's Johnny Mize '49, or perhaps his Jim Thome '09. (Christina Kahrl)
2009-10-21 17:00:00NLCS Game 5One more baserunner and you need to get Jim Thome up this inning. (David Laurila)
2009-10-15 17:00:002009 NLCS Game One (Phillies/Dodgers)As much as I love Jim Thome, he's been reduced to a human chess piece for the most part during his Dodger days. (J.A. Jaffe)
2009-10-12 15:00:00Phillies/Rockies Playoffs RoundtableBack from dinner, back to the questions...

Aaron W. (Kentucky): Jim Thome, Hall-of-Famer? Sounds good to me.

His candidacy does have its shortcomings in the traditional sense, with no MVP awards and a spotty post-season record. On the other hand, he's in much, much better shape than Helton according to JAWS, , above average on both career and peak. It probably helps that he's positioned to make a run at 600 homers, though at 564, he probably needs two years to get there. Barring any surprises from Selena Roberts, I think he'll get in. (Jay Jaffe)
2008-10-22 16:30:00World Series Game OneNoel (Chicago): "BTW, no one has mentioned Bonds yet with respect to players that had the shift applied to them."

Or Darrell Evans either. I've seen it a bit against Jim Thome. I wonder if they shifted against guys like Ben Oglivie or Mike Easler, because frankly I don't recall if they did or did not. (Christina Kahrl)
2008-10-02 11:00:00Thursday Playoff GamesQuick question with Jim Thome getting to lead off the second. Is Jim Thome suddenly Jack Cust, or is Jack Cust suddenly Jim Thome.

Also, and I hate to harp on this as I'm a bit of a videophile, but it's ironic that TBS' little ads about how cool it is that they're in HD with 5.1 audio arent' really in HD. (Kevin Goldstein)
2008-09-30 16:30:00Twins/White Sox Play-In GameCaleb, to get DeWayne Wise out. It's very important to have the platoon advantage against DeWayne Wise.

Rather than Jim Thome. (Joe Sheehan)
2008-09-30 16:30:00Twins/White Sox Play-In GameDelmon Young caught it on the warning track after losing it in the lights, then seemed to panic that the guy on first was tagging. Then he realized it was Jim Thome, who is an honorary Molina ... (Will Carroll)
 

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