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Birth Date7-21-1980
Height6' 6"
Weight300 lbs
Age37 years, 7 months, 4 days
BatsL
ThrowsL
0.82014
0.22015
2.12016
1.72017
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WARP Summary

MLB Statistics

Historical (past-seasons) WARP is now based on DRA..
cFIP and DRA are not available on a by-team basis and display as zeroes(0). See TOT line for season totals of these stats.
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YEAR Team Lg G GS IP W L SV H BB SO HR oppTAv PPF H/9 BB/9 HR/9 K/9 GB% BABIP TAv WHIP FIP ERA cFIP DRA DRA- WARP
2001 CLE MLB 33 33 180.3 17 5 0 149 95 171 19 .261 102 7.4 4.7 0.9 8.5 37% .276 .242 1.35 4.26 4.39 94 4.99 103.5 1.6
2002 CLE MLB 33 33 210.0 13 11 0 198 88 149 17 .261 101 8.5 3.8 0.7 6.4 51% .285 .249 1.36 3.96 4.37 101 4.36 93.5 2.9
2003 CLE MLB 30 30 197.7 13 9 0 190 66 141 19 .259 93 8.7 3.0 0.9 6.4 44% .285 .258 1.30 4.00 3.60 93 3.83 80.2 4.2
2004 CLE MLB 30 30 188.0 11 10 0 176 72 139 20 .258 104 8.4 3.4 1.0 6.7 41% .284 .243 1.32 4.32 4.12 93 4.25 87.6 3.2
2005 CLE MLB 31 31 196.7 15 10 0 185 62 161 19 .255 99 8.5 2.8 0.9 7.4 50% .289 .240 1.26 3.71 4.03 90 3.65 78.5 4.1
2006 CLE MLB 28 28 192.7 12 11 0 182 44 172 17 .258 106 8.5 2.1 0.8 8.0 47% .294 .225 1.17 3.34 3.22 74 3.12 63.5 5.6
2007 CLE MLB 34 34 241.0 19 7 0 238 37 209 20 .257 99 8.9 1.4 0.7 7.8 48% .311 .232 1.14 3.20 3.21 70 2.86 59.1 7.5
2008 CLE 0 18 18 122.3 6 8 0 117 34 123 13 .258 104 8.6 2.5 1.0 9.0 46% .311 .236 1.23 3.43 3.83 68 2.77 59.1 3.8
2008 MIL 0 17 17 130.7 11 2 0 106 25 128 6 .251 99 7.3 1.7 0.4 8.8 53% .283 .197 1.00 2.40 1.65 60 2.31 49.3 4.7
2009 NYA MLB 34 34 230.0 19 8 0 197 67 197 18 .259 109 7.7 2.6 0.7 7.7 45% .277 .224 1.15 3.43 3.37 78 2.91 62.3 6.9
2010 NYA MLB 34 34 237.7 21 7 0 209 74 197 20 .255 113 7.9 2.8 0.8 7.5 52% .281 .223 1.19 3.50 3.18 82 2.99 67.6 6.3
2011 NYA MLB 33 33 237.3 19 8 0 230 61 230 17 .261 107 8.7 2.3 0.6 8.7 49% .318 .238 1.23 2.91 3.00 74 3.38 78.6 4.7
2012 NYA MLB 28 28 200.0 15 6 0 184 44 197 22 .257 102 8.3 2.0 1.0 8.9 50% .288 .246 1.14 3.28 3.38 83 3.57 81.7 3.8
2013 NYA MLB 32 32 211.0 14 13 0 224 65 175 28 .270 100 9.6 2.8 1.2 7.5 47% .308 .281 1.37 4.12 4.78 102 4.52 108.3 1.1
2014 NYA MLB 8 8 46.0 3 4 0 58 10 48 10 .253 100 11.3 2.0 2.0 9.4 50% .350 .316 1.48 4.81 5.28 96 3.44 84.3 0.8
2015 NYA MLB 29 29 167.3 6 10 0 188 50 137 28 .264 105 10.1 2.7 1.5 7.4 48% .317 .278 1.42 4.64 4.73 105 4.97 116.0 0.2
2016 NYA MLB 30 30 179.7 9 12 0 172 65 152 22 .259 108 8.6 3.3 1.1 7.6 51% .288 .246 1.32 4.24 3.91 105 4.36 96.6 2.1
2017 NYA MLB 27 27 148.7 14 5 0 139 50 120 21 .256 103 8.4 3.0 1.3 7.3 51% .276 .244 1.27 4.46 3.69 106 4.52 96.1 1.7
2008 TOT MLB 35 35 253.0 17 10 0 223 59 251 19 .254 101 7.9 2.1 0.7 8.9 50% .297 .216 1.11 2.90 2.70 64 2.53 54.0 8.5
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Statistics for All Levels

'opp' stats - Quality of opponents faced - have been moved and are available only as OPP_QUAL in the Statistics reports now.
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YEAR Team Lg G GS IP W L SV H BB SO HR oppTAv PPF H/9 BB/9 HR/9 K/9 GB% BABIP TAv WHIP FIP ERA cFIP DRA DRA-
1998 BNC Rk 5 5 18.0 1 0 0 20 8 35 1 .000 10.0 4.0 0.5 17.5 0% -.432 .000 1.56 2.26 4.50 0 0.00 0.0
1999 CGA A 3 3 16.7 2 0 0 8 5 20 1 .000 4.3 2.7 0.5 10.8 0% -.269 .000 0.78 2.83 1.08 0 0.00 0.0
1999 MHV A- 6 6 19.7 0 0 0 9 12 27 0 .000 4.1 5.5 0.0 12.3 0% -.231 .000 1.07 2.80 1.83 0 0.00 0.0
1999 KIN A+ 7 7 32.0 3 3 0 30 19 29 3 .000 8.4 5.3 0.8 8.2 0% -.529 .000 1.53 4.74 5.34 0 0.00 0.0
2000 KIN A+ 10 10 56.0 3 2 0 48 24 69 4 .000 7.7 3.9 0.6 11.1 0% -.454 .000 1.29 3.16 3.54 0 0.00 0.0
2000 AKR AA 17 17 90.3 3 7 0 75 48 90 6 .000 7.5 4.8 0.6 9.0 0% -.479 .000 1.36 3.86 3.59 0 0.00 0.0
2001 CLE MLB 33 33 180.3 17 5 0 149 95 171 19 .261 102 7.4 4.7 0.9 8.5 37% .276 .242 1.35 4.26 4.39 94 4.99 103.5
2002 CLE MLB 33 33 210.0 13 11 0 198 88 149 17 .261 101 8.5 3.8 0.7 6.4 51% .285 .249 1.36 3.96 4.37 101 4.36 93.5
2003 CLE MLB 30 30 197.7 13 9 0 190 66 141 19 .259 93 8.7 3.0 0.9 6.4 44% .285 .258 1.30 4.00 3.60 93 3.83 80.2
2004 CLE MLB 30 30 188.0 11 10 0 176 72 139 20 .258 104 8.4 3.4 1.0 6.7 41% .284 .243 1.32 4.32 4.12 93 4.25 87.6
2005 CLE MLB 31 31 196.7 15 10 0 185 62 161 19 .255 99 8.5 2.8 0.9 7.4 50% .289 .240 1.26 3.71 4.03 90 3.65 78.5
2005 AKR AA 2 2 9.0 0 1 0 4 2 9 0 .254 101 4.0 2.0 0.0 9.0 72% .160 .200 0.67 2.15 1.00 93 4.06 98.0
2006 CLE MLB 28 28 192.7 12 11 0 182 44 172 17 .258 106 8.5 2.1 0.8 8.0 47% .294 .225 1.17 3.34 3.22 74 3.12 63.5
2006 BUF AAA 1 1 5.1 1 0 0 6 1 5 0 .250 103 10.6 1.8 0.0 8.8 50% .375 .268 1.37 1.70 1.76 93 3.63 98.4
2007 CLE MLB 34 34 241.0 19 7 0 238 37 209 20 .257 99 8.9 1.4 0.7 7.8 48% .311 .232 1.14 3.20 3.21 70 2.86 59.1
2008 CLE MLB 18 18 122.3 6 8 0 117 34 123 13 .258 104 8.6 2.5 1.0 9.0 46% .311 .236 1.23 3.43 3.83 68 2.77 59.1
2008 MIL MLB 17 17 130.7 11 2 0 106 25 128 6 .251 99 7.3 1.7 0.4 8.8 53% .283 .197 1.00 2.40 1.65 60 2.31 49.3
2009 NYA MLB 34 34 230.0 19 8 0 197 67 197 18 .259 109 7.7 2.6 0.7 7.7 45% .277 .224 1.15 3.43 3.37 78 2.91 62.3
2010 NYA MLB 34 34 237.7 21 7 0 209 74 197 20 .255 113 7.9 2.8 0.8 7.5 52% .281 .223 1.19 3.50 3.18 82 2.99 67.6
2011 NYA MLB 33 33 237.3 19 8 0 230 61 230 17 .261 107 8.7 2.3 0.6 8.7 49% .318 .238 1.23 2.91 3.00 74 3.38 78.6
2012 NYA MLB 28 28 200.0 15 6 0 184 44 197 22 .257 102 8.3 2.0 1.0 8.9 50% .288 .246 1.14 3.28 3.38 83 3.57 81.7
2013 NYA MLB 32 32 211.0 14 13 0 224 65 175 28 .270 100 9.6 2.8 1.2 7.5 47% .308 .281 1.37 4.12 4.78 102 4.52 108.3
2014 NYA MLB 8 8 46.0 3 4 0 58 10 48 10 .253 100 11.3 2.0 2.0 9.4 50% .350 .316 1.48 4.81 5.28 96 3.44 84.3
2014 TAM A+ 1 1 2.3 0 0 0 3 1 2 0 .241 103 11.6 3.9 0.0 7.7 56% .333 .299 1.71 2.95 7.71 100 4.79 106.3
2014 TRN AA 1 1 3.7 0 1 0 5 1 2 0 .266 96 12.3 2.5 0.0 4.9 36% .357 .407 1.64 3.89 7.36 105 5.58 110.8
2015 NYA MLB 29 29 167.3 6 10 0 188 50 137 28 .264 105 10.1 2.7 1.5 7.4 48% .317 .278 1.42 4.64 4.73 105 4.97 116.0
2016 NYA MLB 30 30 179.7 9 12 0 172 65 152 22 .259 108 8.6 3.3 1.1 7.6 51% .288 .246 1.32 4.24 3.91 105 4.36 96.6
2017 NYA MLB 27 27 148.7 14 5 0 139 50 120 21 .256 103 8.4 3.0 1.3 7.3 51% .276 .244 1.27 4.46 3.69 106 4.52 96.1

Plate Discipline

YEAR PITCHES ZONE_RT SWING_RT CONTACT_RT Z_SWING_RT O_SWING_RT Z_CONTACT_RT O_CONTACT_RT SW_STRK_RT
2008 3552 0.5121 0.4921 0.7151 0.6361 0.3410 0.7960 0.5567 0.2849
2009 3552 0.5093 0.4730 0.7512 0.6180 0.3224 0.8265 0.6014 0.2488
2010 3537 0.5196 0.4583 0.7779 0.5930 0.3125 0.8633 0.6026 0.2221
2011 3579 0.4892 0.4725 0.7481 0.6002 0.3501 0.8402 0.5969 0.2519
2012 3020 0.4702 0.4765 0.7422 0.6113 0.3569 0.8456 0.5849 0.2578
2013 3321 0.4833 0.4598 0.7780 0.6137 0.3159 0.8650 0.6199 0.2220
2014 796 0.4849 0.4535 0.7424 0.5829 0.3317 0.8311 0.5956 0.2576
2015 2682 0.4549 0.4545 0.7810 0.6090 0.3256 0.8721 0.6387 0.2190
2016 2902 0.4600 0.4566 0.7675 0.6247 0.3133 0.8597 0.6110 0.2325
2017 2313 0.4682 0.4522 0.7878 0.6362 0.2902 0.8462 0.6751 0.2122
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Injury History  —  No longer being updated

Last Update: 12/31/2014 23:59 ET

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
2014-05-11 2014-09-29 60-DL 141 127 Right Knee Surgery Degenerative Changes 2014-07-23 -
2013-09-21 2013-09-30 60-DL 9 8 Left Thigh Strain Hamstring - -
2012-10-25 2012-10-25 Off 0 0 Left Elbow Surgery Bone Spur 2012-10-25 -
2012-08-09 2012-08-24 15-DL 15 14 Left Elbow Inflammation - -
2012-06-25 2012-07-16 15-DL 21 17 Left Groin Strain - -
2011-04-23 2011-04-23 DTD 0 0 General Medical Respiratory Flu -
2011-03-11 2011-03-20 Camp 9 0 Right Thigh Contusion Batted Ball -
2010-10-26 2010-10-26 Off 0 0 Right Knee Surgery Meniscus Bothered All Year 2010-10-29
2009-06-21 2009-06-21 DTD 0 0 Left Upper Arm Stiffness Biceps -
2006-09-29 2006-09-29 Off 0 0 Right Knee Surgery Cartilage 2006-09-29
2006-04-03 2006-05-02 15-DL 29 25 Right Abdomen Strain Oblique -
2005-03-25 2005-04-15 15-DL 21 9 Right Abdomen Recovery From Strain Oblique -
2005-03-06 2005-03-25 Camp 19 0 Right Abdomen Strain Oblique -
2005-02-21 2005-02-24 Camp 3 0 General Medical Illness -
2004-09-17 2004-10-04 DTD 17 16 Left Thigh Strain Hamstring -
2004-06-27 2004-07-05 DTD 8 7 Left Shoulder Inflammation Biceps Tendinitis -
2004-04-17 2004-05-01 DTD 14 11 Left Shoulder Inflammation Biceps Tendinitis -
2003-09-04 2003-09-12 DTD 8 7 General Medical Gastrointestinal GI -
2003-05-22 2003-05-30 DTD 8 7 Left Ankle Sprain -
1999-04-05 1999-06-05 Minors 61 0 Left Elbow Contusion Bone Bruise - -

Compensation

Year Team Salary
2018 NYA $10,000,000
2017 NYA $25,000,000
2016 NYA $25,000,000
2015 NYA $24,285,714
2014 NYA $24,285,714
2013 NYA $24,285,714
2012 NYA $24,285,714
2011 NYA $24,285,714
2010 NYA $24,285,714
2009 NYA $15,285,714
2008 CLE $9,000,000
2007 CLE $8,750,000
2006 CLE $7,000,000
2005 CLE $4,500,000
2004 CLE $2,450,000
2003 CLE $850,000
2002 CLE $700,000
YearsDescriptionSalary
16 yrPrevious$244,249,998
2018Current$10,000,000
17 yrPvs + Cur$254,249,998
17 yrTotal$254,249,998

 

Service TimeAgentContract Status
17 y 0 dRoc Nation / CAA1 year/$10M (2018)

Details
  • 1 year/$10M (2018). Re-signed by NY Yankees as a free agent 12/29/17. Performance bonuses: $0.5M each for 155, 165, 175, 185 innings pitched. Earned 10-and-5 rights after 2013 season, giving Sabathia the right to block any trade.
  • 5 years/$122M (2012-16), plus 2017 vesting option. Signed extension with NY Yankees 10/31/11. 12-15:$23M annually, 16:$25M, 17:$25M vesting option ($5M buyout). 2017 salary guaranteed if Sabathia 1) does not end 2016 on the disabled list with a left shoulder injury, 2) does not spend more than 45 days in 2016 on the disabled list with a left shoulder injury or 3) does not make more than six relief appearances in 2016 because of a left shoulder injury. No-trade protection. Perks: suite on road trips. 2017 option vested 10/16.
  • 7 years/$161M (2009-15). Signed by NY Yankees as a free agent 12/11/08. $9M signing bonus, 09:$14M, 10-15:$23M/year. No-trade protection. May opt out after 2011 season.
  • 2 years/$17.75M (2007-08). Signed extension with Cleveland 4/05, with Indians exercising 2006 option. 06:$7M option exercised, 07:$8.75M, 08:$9M. $7.75M in performance and award bonuses (All-Star, Cy Young and MVP votes): up to $2M in 2006, $3M in 2007, $2.75M in 2008. Acquired by Milwaukee in trade from Cleveland 7/7/08.
  • 4 years/$9.5M (2002-05), plus 2006 club option. Signed extension with Cleveland 2/24/02. $1M signing bonus. 02:$0.45M, 03:$0.85M, 04:$2.45M, 05:$4.5M, 06:$7M club option, $0.25M buyout. Option guaranteed with 405 innings pitched in 2004-05 or 540 innings pitched in 2003-05. Award bonus: $0.1M for All-Star. Cleveland exercised 2006 option 4/05.
  • Drafted by Cleveland 1998 (1-20). $1.3M signing bonus.

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Platoon

SORT_FIELD PLATOON AVG OBP SLG TAv
10 vs L (Multi) .207 .287 .333 .225
11 vs R (Multi) .276 .335 .437 .268
18 Split (Multi) -.070 -.048 -.104 -.043
19 LgAvg (Multi) -.020 -.022 -.064 -.025
30 vs L (2016) .209 .312 .351 .238
31 vs R (2016) .260 .325 .400 .248
38 Split (2016) -.051 -.013 -.049 -.010
39 LgAvg (2016) -.022 -.023 -.071 -.028

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DateQuestionAnswer
2017-10-23 13:00:00 (link to chat)Who leads the next wave of Yankee prospects to make it to the big leagues, Gleyber or one of the young pitchers?
(Joao from Baltimore)
I'm assuming this means who gets there first? As of right now I would say that Chance Adams may find himself in New York before Gleyber Torres, but only because they may want to keep Gleyber down for Super Two purposes. The Yankees may be losing both CC Sabathia and Masahiro Tanaka this winter (although I wouldn't be shocked if they both come back). They may go out and get someone like Alex Cobb, but Adams will have a role to play. You'll also see Justus Sheffield at some point, but he's a little bit further off. Adams could probably break camp with the big team and be okay, but I doubt that happens. (Nicolas Stellini)
2016-05-26 19:00:00 (link to chat)Is CC Sabathia becoming worthy of a roster spot?
(Nick from Your imagination )
He is. (Mike Gianella)
2015-06-30 19:00:00 (link to chat)Will we see another player get 3,000 hits? 300 wins?
(Davin from Da burgh)
I think 3,000 hits is something that could happen; if Trout stays healthy, he could certainly do it. 300 wins seems like the one that may never happen again. You need a pitcher to stay healthy for 15-20 years and win 15-20 to do it. CC Sabathia seemed like a near lock to do it and then he got hurt and now he looks like a back end guy at best. That's the problem. (Mike Gianella)
2014-05-19 13:00:00 (link to chat)Wins, I know, but who gets more of them from this point until the end of time: CC Sabathia, Zack Wheeler, Archie Bradley, Ryan Vogelsong?
(Wandy from Wandyland)
Bradley, Wheeler, Sabathia, Vogelsong.

146, 139, 34, 19 (Zachary Levine)
2014-01-23 12:00:00 (link to chat)Who should we be worried about from a health perspective this season?
(hotstatrat from at my desk)
Old people.

I'm really curious about Skinny CC Sabathia. Have you all seen that picture of him? He looks like a beanpole whereas he used to look like a life-sized Russian doll with two hundred slightly-smaller-than-the-next Russian dolls inside of him. Is he really that skinny? Was it just a weird picture? I hope he is that skinny because I would love to see what the effect would be on his pitching. (Matthew Kory)
2014-01-21 18:00:00 (link to chat)Im in a dynasty league, pitching flush, and own too many of my yanks. Looking to move CC on to new pastures, what type of prospect should I be hoping to get? Kyle Zimmer type range?
(Joe from Girardi)
Hi Joe:

I think CC Sabathia could bounce back a little bit this year but if you've decided you're sick and tired of him, then Zimmer is certainly a worthy target if you can get him. (Mike Gianella)
2014-01-21 18:00:00 (link to chat)Im in a dynasty league, pitching flush, and own too many of my yanks. Looking to move CC on to new pastures, what type of prospect should I be hoping to get? Kyle Zimmer type range?
(Joe from Girardi)
Hi Joe:

I think CC Sabathia could bounce back a little bit this year but if you've decided you're sick and tired of him, then Zimmer is certainly a worthy target if you can get him. (Mike Gianella)
2013-10-28 18:00:00 (link to chat)CC Sabathia worth targeting/stashing for cheap next year? seems his year was horrid yet had 14W, 175K. Big bounce back candidate if he controls the long ball, even though hes lost a few ticks on the FB?
(George from Bronx)
If he's cheap enough, sure. As you point out the whiffs were high and he could be one of those pitchers who figure out how to live with diminished velocity. Felix Hernandez's fastball speed keeps dropping and he had one of his best seasons in 2013, while Ubaldo Jimenez finally managed to figure it out in the second half. My concern about CC is that the drop in velo is the sign of an injury lurking and that if you take him you might only get 75-100 innings next year. So if the price is right grab him, but don't simply think that second tier is "cheap" (Mike Gianella)
2013-09-12 18:00:00 (link to chat)In some heated fantasy playoffs...dump CC and go with Joe Kelly ROS? CC has Boston on Saturday.
(Tyler from Harrisburg)
Hi Tyler.

That's a tough one. Joe Kelly's ERA has been much, much better, but their FIP and other peripheral numbers are extremely similar. As you point out, CC Sabathia has a tough match-up against Boston, although Kelly gets the Rockies in Coors next week. You could almost flip a coin on this, but since Kelly could blow up in Coors just as easily as CC could against Boston, I'm going with CC. He gets San Francisco and the struggling Rays in his next two games, so hopefully this offsets the Boston factor. This isn't an easy decision, and if you decided to go the other way, I would definitely understand why (Mike Gianella)
2013-07-29 11:00:00 (link to chat)Among others, Cole Hamels, Justin Verlander, and CC Sabathia are #1's having more mortal 2013 seasons. Fluky seasons, or reasons to be concerned?
(Sara from Tacoma)
Add Matt Cain to this list also, and yes I would be very concerned. The teams made major investments in these pitchers and the lack of performance is always a reason to be concerned. (Zach Mortimer)
2013-05-15 13:00:00 (link to chat)We heard a lot early in the season about velocity loss among some of the top pitchers this year, such as Justin Verlander and CC Sabathia. How much of the loss is "real," and how much does it matter for those pitchers?
(Dan Rozenson from Washington, DC)
it's real and it's spectacular. Well, maybe not spectacular. The Verlander theory I like best is he was maxing out pre-contract, and now he doesn't need to go full bore to stand out as an elite arm. Thing is, he is an elite arm even without the 100 mph stuff. His curve is nasty and he commands it and his velocity is plenty fine. CC is just a guy with a ton of innings on him, there's no way he would throw that hard forever. He's a pitcher and not a thrower, so, again, he should be just fine. (Harry Pavlidis)
2012-12-05 13:00:00 (link to chat)How much would you pay to hear Q-Tip read the phonebook? Is there nothing that you wouldn't pay to hear Q-Tip do?
(Chris Garosi from Maryland)
I have no doubt that he could make the phone book funny and engaging -- and maybe a little sexy. I'd give him CC Sabathia money to do it. As long as it was actually CC Sabathia's money, and not mine. (Ian Miller)
2012-10-04 14:00:00 (link to chat)Who should the Yankees be hoping to play?
(Alex from Anaheim)
I think the Yankees will be favored in the Division Series regardless of whether they play the Orioles or Rangers, especially with CC Sabathia seemingly back on track, so to me it doesn't really matter. That said, I do still think the Rangers are a markedly superior team to the Orioles, and starting the series with two games in Texas could be troublesome. So if you're a Yankees fan, you probably should be pulling for Baltimore tomorrow. (Daniel Rathman)
2012-09-05 14:00:00 (link to chat)Should the Yankees miss the playoffs, how do you think it impacts their plan to get below the luxury tax threshold in 2014?
(Todd Gack from New York, NY)
What is that, Dutch?

I don't think you'll have to worry about that a month from now, but the biggest issue they'll face is assembling a passable starting rotation behind CC Sabathia, and a poor September could really exacerbate those concerns. If they do fail to make the playoffs this year, it will be even more difficult for them to do without investing in pitching as A-Rod, Teixeira, and co. age, so you may well see those plans tweaked. (Daniel Rathman)
2012-04-19 14:00:00 (link to chat)Through two weeks of games, it seems like no one in the AL East is interested in success. Obviously it's a small sample size, but what are some of the realistic long-term issues for the Yankees, Red Sox and Rays that have been exposed.
(LonelyInCurtis from MA)
The Red Sox and Rays bullpens seem like abject disasters at this point, though I think Tampa's may round into form when returns. It seems that Boston is going to need to score in droves in the late innings to put together any long winning streaks.

At this point, the Yankees' problems seem most correctable. It won't be long before Teixeira hits his first home run, and you've got to believe that CC Sabathia will pare down that 5.59 ERA in short order.

I'll put the Yankees at 95 wins, the Rays at 92, and the Red Sox at 88 at this point. (Daniel Rathman)
2012-03-15 12:00:00 (link to chat)Who wins my award this year in each league?
(Cy Young from The Beyond)
Let's say CC Sabathia and Roy Halladay--original, I know. (R.J. Anderson)
2012-02-14 13:00:00 (link to chat)How many spots/rounds would you bump up Felix and other pitchers on bad batting teams with quality starts as a stat?
(chiefsalsa from Utah)
With quality starts as a stat instead of wins, as a rule of thumb, you can almost just ignore QS and count ERA twice, giving guys with higher expected IP more consideration (you could also use our PFM for a more precise evaluation :). Felix probably finds himself in the CC Sabathia class of pitchers in a league like this. (Derek Carty)
2011-10-31 13:00:00 (link to chat)It may be a horrible class for FA pitchers, but how many teams can actually afford to outbid the Yankees for CC Sabathia?
(Tim from DC)
Those that chose to put all their eggs into a very large basket, I guess. The question is, should they? As good as CC has been, I suspect that just when we start believing he's invulnerable is when he'll break down. He has a ton of mileage on him, and his weight gain last season was disturbing. (Steven Goldman)
2010-09-13 13:00:00 (link to chat)Any reason to be worried about Yankees starting pitching come playoff time? Pettitte health, A.J. being A.J., Phil's fall off a cliff, etc? Or am I just overreacting because of how piss poor they played this past week?
(Dick Whitman from Cubicle of Awesome)
I think there's plenty of reason for concern. The Yankee rotation's ERA since the All-Star break is 5.11, and CC Sabathia is the only experienced pitcher who's healthy and pitching up to his skill level. Hughes (5.37), Burnett (5.82) and Vazquez (6.20) have all been awful for the most part, and while Ivan Nova's shown promise, he's got just four big-league starts under his belt. To play deep into October, the Yankees need Pettitte to come back strong AND they need at least one of the aforementioned trio to get their [expletive deleted] together.

On the other hand, their bullpen has rounded into shape, as I wrote at Pinstriped Bible on Friday (http://www.pinstripedbible.com/2010/09/10/good-wood/). (Jay Jaffe)
2010-08-17 14:45:00 (link to chat)Francisco Liriano for Cy Young! (pay no attention to that Cliff Lee behind the curtain there)
(Donald from Target Field)
If Cliff Lee starts walking everyone, and CC Sabathia stops winning, sure, Liriano has had a really, really great season. I'm not much for arguing who SHOULD win stuff anymore, so I've mostly refrained from all the Liriano-for-Cy discussions, but I will say I think Lee is more deserving right now. But, if Lee finishes the year 12-8, he isn't going to win the award. Then again, between Liriano and Sabathia I think we could see a repeat of Johan v. Colon, US 2006. (Eric Seidman)
2010-07-26 14:00:00 (link to chat)Why on Earth would the Nats trade Adam Dunn for Edwin Jackson? If they really can't re-sign him, wouldn't compensation picks beat that deal anyway?
(Charlie from Bethesda, MD)
Banking on compensation picks can be a little dicey, since you might not get what you expect depending on who signs where (see: CC Sabathia and the Milwaukee Brewers). I'm not particularly bullish on Jackson, but he does have stuff and can pitch in the majors now, two important things for a Nationals team trying to build some excitement and a brand. I don't think it's that bad a move, depending on what other teams are offering.

For the White Sox part of this thing, it'll be a shame if they have to give up someone like Daniel Hudson to rent Dunn, when they could just as easily have signed an ever-willing Jim Thome last spring. (Ken Funck)
2010-07-06 14:00:00 (link to chat)The New York Yankees have been having abnormal years by players, CC Sabathia, Phil Hughes, Andy Pettitte, Robinson Cano, Mark Texiera, A-Rod, Nick Swisher, did I miss anyone? Are these years for real or has luck played a major factor in their years?
(SabrGreg from Westchester, NY)
Every team has its share of surprising performances, though, right? And how many of these are truly shocking over the sample size we're talking about? By the end of the season, Swisher probably won't be hitting .296, Pettitte won't have a sub-3.00 ERA, etc. If I had call one of those seasons the most "for real," I'd go with Hughes. (Ben Lindbergh)
2009-10-20 14:00:00 (link to chat)Hey Joe, what are your predictions for game 4 tonight? If the Yankees drop this one, it seems the odds will be in the Angel's favor given the pitching matchups.
(billb09 from VT)
CC Sabathia is a lot better than Scott Kazmir is, so you have to like the Yankees off of that fact. What I keep waiting for, though, is the 9-8 game these teams have in them. I could see that coming tonight. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-09-24 14:00:00 (link to chat)Shouldn't a clear-eyed Yankee fan be concerned about starting pitching in the playoffs?
(ekanenh from Capitol City)
Absolutely. Andy Pettitte's quality start Monday certainly makes everyone breathe easier, but A.J. Burnett is a dice roll, and they have apparently screwed up Joba Chamberlain something fierce. (The lesson here is that very-low-pitch-count starts are apparently not the way to manage workloads for young starter.) Only CC Sabathia is someone you can expect to be healthy and effective throughout October...and he's the guy who'll be facing Verlander and Lester. The rotation is the Yankees' biggest concern, and at that, they're the postseason favorite. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-09-08 13:00:00 (link to chat)I need some help returning my fantasy team to its former glory, and I hear you're the man to do it. We're in a 6x6 Head to Head league, and get 6 keepers - name your 6: Wright, Howard, Holliday, BJ Upton, J. Upton, CC Sabathia, J. Lester, M. Wieters, M. Cain
(dtwhite from Toronto)
Ooh, lots of good options. I like Wright for his well-roundedness, Justin Upton for being Justin Upton, Sabathia and Lester because that would give you two excellent aces for each week in head-to-head (ZOMG double starters weeks). After that it's a little iffier. Holliday has a great bat, Wieters is young and talented but unproven at the major league level, and B.J. Upton is having a hard time coming back from that shoulder problem, at least offensively. You could probably trade Howard for a better keeper pick, assuming someone in your league overrates him, no? (Marc Normandin)
2009-08-25 13:00:00 (link to chat)Not to quibble with the idea that Greinke is the clear best pitcher but I'm curious as to your statement that "Just two pitchers have more than that number (of wins) at all, Josh Beckett, who isnít a candidate, and CC Sabathia, who rates as about the sixth- or seventh-best starter in the league by the value metrics." Beckett and Sabathia are pretty similar across the various Support Neutral metrics and it's not like Sabathia has a massive edge in innings. I'm curious where you see a separation between the two.
(Joe from Tewksbury, MA)
Sabathia could lead the league in wins--in fact, be the only 20-game winner--and be perceived as key to the Yankees' season. That will make him a BBWAA candidate in a way that Beckett won't be. I wouldn't vote for either, although either could sneak onto a five-slot IBA ballot. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-06-15 13:00:00 (link to chat)How confident are you that Webb will be fine on his return?
(dantroy from davis)
Not at all yet. I want to see more, specifically him on a mound. Amazing how he's gone from CC Sabathia to Ben Sheets in the space of a month. (Will Carroll)
2009-06-08 14:00:00 (link to chat)Is Roy Halladay baseball's best pitcher? It's not like he hasn't been doing it for a long period of time, and I figure he's got to be given some extra credit for the division he pitches in as well as his ability to pitch more innings than any one else.
(blaseta from Calgary)
I still have Johan Santana atop my list, and I think you can argue that Halladay is the best of the next group down, which would include Brandon Webb, CC Sabathia and Tim Lincecum. Santana is a bit like Albert Pujols now, where he's so good people look for other guys to talk about. (Joe Sheehan)
2009-06-05 15:30:00 (link to chat)Is Wang really back? I just don't see that an "injury" that was serious enough to turn him into what we saw in April is minor enough to get over in a month. I think he is just all done.
(mafrth77 from Boston)
CC Sabathia's first 4 starts in 2008: 4 GS, 18 IP, 32 H, 27 ER, 14 BB, 14 K. That is all. (Eric Seidman)
2008-12-05 14:00:00 (link to chat)Everyone seems to think the Giambi contract was a bust, but so many are advocating a 10-year deal for Teixeira. Looking at Giambi's offensive performance, I don't know if Teixeira will be able to match it, which means his glove will have to be the deciding factor. Can a 1B's defense really have that much of an impact? How wise is it to invest $200mn in a position that can more easily be filled than most? Quite frankly, C.C. Sabathia seems like much more of a rare commodity that I don't understand the ground swell away from him toward Teixeira.
(williamnyy from NYC)
The Giambi contract wasn't a total bust, but it wasn't a great deal either. Aside from 2002, he never had a season above 8.0 WARP, and was below 2.0 twice. A lack of defensive value was a problem, both in terms of the amount of time he spent as a DH - which has costs, such as the ability to rest a regular - and as a below-average first basemen. It's about 1-2 wins a year less than a Teixeira, plus I think it's likely that such a difference provides a tell as to the aging patterns that the two players can be expected to follow. A better defensive 1B is likely to age better than a guy who's already a part-time DH.

Note that I don't advocate going as high as $200 million on Tex, but you're right, cheaper solutions can be had because of its spot on the defensive spectrum. (Jay Jaffe)
2008-10-07 13:00:00 (link to chat)Can a legitimate case really be made for C.C. Sabathia to win the NL Cy Young? Surely his half-season isn't more valuable than full seasons from Tim Lincecum or Johan Santana?
(ericssimon from Jersey)
Since Lincecum and Santana have essentially the same SNLVAR (8.6 to 8.5, respectively) I'm going to give the nod to Lincecum, because he has a higher K rate, and that's what I love. (Marc Normandin)
2008-06-23 12:00:00 (link to chat)John, what are the chances the Rays get serious about C.C. Sabathia?
(R.J. from Beyond the Boxscore)
I think the Rays definitely have the depth of young players to be a factor in the Sabathia derby if they are really feel they have a chance to make the playoff this year _ and it's sure looking like they aren't a fluke with each passing day _ and are willing to accept that Sabathia would be a rental becuase they don't have the financial ability to sign him long-term. (John Perrotto)
2008-04-17 13:00:00 (link to chat)C.C. Sabathia?
(baconjeff from cleveland)
On a scale of 1 to 10, my worry level is a 5.8. (Nate Silver)
2008-04-15 13:00:00 (link to chat)Do C.C. Sabathia's troubles so far fall into the Will Carroll department? As in, injury or mechanical issues?
(akachazz from DC)
I wish it were that easy. He's just been bad so far, with no news of any physical issue. (Will Carroll)
2008-03-03 13:00:00 (link to chat)This isn't prospect related, but what do you think are the Indians chances of resigning C.C. Sabathia?
(mattymatty2000 from Philly, PA)
Unfortunatley for Cleveland fans, I think they're small, and I think he wants to pitch closer to home on the West Coast. (Kevin Goldstein)


BP Roundtables

DateRoundtable NameComment
2010-10-06 10:00:002010 Playoffs Day OneCliff Lee vs Roy Halladay in Game 7 would be interesting. Then again, so would CC Sabathia vs Tim Lincecum. (David Laurila)
2010-04-05 09:30:00Season Opener RoundtableOkay, let's Radio Shack this - you've got questions, we've got answers. First one comes from dtwhite: "Is there any reason some guys seem to be 'slow starters' - I'm thinking CC Sabathia struggling the last two springs - or is it just a sample size illusion?"

This is one of those things where having more data doesn't really mean more information. In other words, given what we know about baseball, we should expect some players to appear to be "slow starters" over a period of years, simply due to random chance, even if there are no slow starters. But there's little to no evidence that some players really are "slow starters" compared to their peers. (Colin Wyers)
2009-10-21 17:00:00NLCS Game 5Mountainhawk (Salem, MA): OK, now that the fire is out, does it make sense for the Phillies to push Lee back to game 2 of the WS assuming Sabathia is going to go in game 1. The path to a championship against the Yankees almost has to include 2 Lee victories, so keeping him away from Sabathia would seem to be good.

I would guess that putting Cliff Lee over the average pitcher increases the odds of winning by 8% and putting CC Sabathia over the average pitcher increases the odds of winning by maybe 12%. I'm not sure that the Phillies do better by using that 8% on game one when the baseline would be lower versus game two when it would be higher. (Matt Swartz)
2009-10-16 13:00:00NLCS Game Two/ALCS Game OneStart spreading the news...

Not the world's most compelling nightcap but a solid win for the Yanks and a big gold star for CC Sabathia. (Jay Jaffe)
 

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