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|2016-03-28 13:00:00 (link to chat)||Can Rob Kaminsky surprise with more swing and miss stuff as he climbs the ladder? I know that's rare, but he was working on his changeup and loss his feel for that hammer curve he came out of HS with|
(Sean99 from Chicago)
|Great question. I think Cleveland did a great job netting Kaminsky last year, in the same way I touched on their Pro Scouting Department's great work with Mike Clevinger earlier in the chat.
I do think he will bring out MORE swing/miss, but I don't know if it's like a 8.5-9+ K/9 type guy either--though that's more a byproduct of average fastball (albeit one with good movement) than lack of secondary stuff. I really liked his breaking ball as an amateur, and I thought that he was better than where he was selected. I think his size scared teams off at the time, though especially as a lefty, I'm not as concerned. (Adam McInturff)
|2016-03-09 19:00:00 (link to chat)||Which group sucks less?
Anthony Alford, Rusney Castillo, Manuel Margot, Brett Phillips, Nick Williams,Spencer Adams, Mark Appel, Dylan Cease, Josh Hader, James Kapeielian, Triston McKenzie,Vince Velasquez or Blake Swihart, Jon Singleton, Dansby Swanson, Alex Jackson, Clayton Blackburn,Tyrell Jenkins, Rob Kaminsky, Zach Lee, Keuy Mella, Justin Nicolino, Aaron Nola, Tyler Jay.
God these teams are awful. |
(Clark from The 19th Hole)
|The first group, but you're right, but they're both bad. (Mike Gianella)|
|2015-07-30 13:00:00 (link to chat)||Which prospects have been helped the most by the latest trades?|
(atomic dumpling from idk)
|I think Jose Peraza will find himself in a really good spot if he does indeed end up in Los Angeles with the Dodgers (is that trade finalized yet? Jeeze). Rob Kaminsky, already a solid pitching prospect has now found himself in one of the best pitching orgs in baseball with Cleveland. Aaron Brooks probably goes from a fringe rotation guy to a legit 4/5 in Oakland.
Those are the biggest ones that stick out to me. (Jeff Long)
|2015-06-22 13:00:00 (link to chat)||Rank Palm Beach arms Luke Weaver, Alex Reyes, and Rob Kaminsky in terms of stuff and ceiling. Most intriguing position player at Palm Beach?|
(Derek from Palm Beach (Florida))
|Reyes..............Weaver....Kaminsky. The gap is notable between Reyes and the other two, and that's testament to him not a knock on the other guys. All three are quote good, Kaminsky's ceiling is the lowest, but he knows how to pitch with what he has. Weaver has a little bit better stuff and knows how to use it as well. Reyes is a stud though. He just needs to learn how to use it. (Jeff Moore)|
|2015-04-06 20:15:00 (link to chat)||Hey Craig, who do you have as some of your favorite Low Minor, high ceiling prospects to keep an eye on for 2015, and are looking to acquire before their stock gains recognition this season, ex. Tapia last pre-season or Devers by its conclusion?|
(kiper90 from Rochester, NY)
|Devers was less one of my low minors favorites than Bret or Ben. Yeyson Yrizarri fits the bill for me, less so for fantasy than real life, though. Some fantasy name to watch would be Wilmer Difo, Rob Kaminsky, Jorge Mateo, Chance Sisco and Magneuris Sierra. (Craig Goldstein)|
|2015-02-25 14:00:00 (link to chat)||I've seen Rob Kaminsky pitch in high school and have never been more impressed by a pitcher. With that said, he's not very tall and I wonder what scouts say about that? Any projection on how high he projects in the Cardinal orginazation?|
(dangor from New Jersey)
|I also saw Rob Kaminsky pitch in high school - and I'm totally with you. Just a total dream for a high school coach. Kaminsky did everything well. Put every pitch where he wanted and basically just toyed with dudes. There wasn't and isn't much if any projection there, sure. He is what he is for the most part. My thing is - who cares? If WHAT HE IS NOW is a deceptive lefty with 3 above average or better pitches and he's in the low 90's with command... well, that's a pretty good big league pitcher already! What do we want or need to project anything for?
Height didn't bother me much. He keeps the ball down and misses down. When he challenges a guy up his heater can miss bats there and he usually puts it up where it won't be punished or right on the hands. That will play.
Scouts around here loved him. I think the biggest concerns were that going to the wear and tear of a pro schedule he may take a step or two back in velo and/or stuff. Quite possible. Our prospect team guys who saw him weren't as enthusiastic about him as me and they've had more recent views, so it's certainly possible. I see him as a #3-4 starter, personally. Solid average type - and largely feel that way because he doesn't have a big margin for error. I like the pitcher a lot and like what he's about. Wouldn't be surprised at all to see him doubted until he reaches the big leagues and then have a successful career. (Al Skorupa)
|2014-11-24 13:00:00 (link to chat)||How many of your NL Central Top 25 do you expect to make it on the top 100 list when BP publishes it? Average would be around 16 or 17 assuming talent is evenly distributed, right?|
(Mike from Texas)
|I did say I'd throw a top 25 NL Central Prospects list out there during this chat. With the understanding this is a work in progress (Mellen and I are starting to dig in on the framework for the Top 101), this is my own personal ranking of the prospects covered in our NL Central rankings:
1. SS Addison Russell
2. 3B Kris Bryant
3. RHP Robert Stephenson
4. OF Jorge Soler
5. OF Albert Almora
6. OF Stephen Piscotty
7. LHP Marco Gonzales
8. RHP Tyler Glasnow
9. RHP Jameson Taillon
10. OF Jesse Winker
11. OF/1B Josh Bell
12. RHP Alex Reyes
13. C Kyle Schwarber
14. RHP Michael Lorenzen
15. SS Orlando Arcia
16. OF Tyrone Taylor
17. OF Billy McKinney
18. RHP Pierce Johnson
19. SS Gleyber Torres
20. RHP Jack Flaherty
21. OF Yorman Rodriguez
22. C Reese McGuire
23. RHP Nick Howard
24. RHP Devin Williams
25. LHP Rob Kaminsky
I think all of those guys will be in the discussion for the 101, and expect there to be some shuffling in order of course. Definitely more than the average of 16 or 17. (NL Central Top 10s With Nick Faleris)
|2014-10-23 14:00:00 (link to chat)||Thanks for chatting, Doug. I've been told by someone I trust that teen MWL dazzler Rob Kaminsky is very "late" with his arm action and will suffer the consequences soon. So (1) do you see the same problem; and (2) if the problem exist, is it easy, difficult, or impossible to alter? Thanks again!|
(golfer Nacho Elvira from 19th hole)
|From what I have seen, his arm is a bit on the "late" side but not egregiously so. More concerning to me is the very late rotation of the hips, limiting his hip-shoulder separation as he uses a "hip-whip" strategy for torque, an inefficient technique that can introduce obstacles to repetition. This can be altered, but doing so depends on 1) the organization's outlook on mechanics, and 2) the player's ability to adapt. (Doug Thorburn)|
|2014-07-22 15:00:00 (link to chat)||From the Peoria rotation, would you rather have Rob Kaminsky or Alex Reyes?|
(justarobert from Santa Clara)
|It's funny you ask. These two guys were probably the most overrated pitchers I've seen this season. I was going in expecting two impact arms, but didn't see it. Reyes has command issues, and there's certainly a chance he ends up in the pen.
Kaminsky, I actually saw earlier this week. He was mostly high 80's. Could reach back for a bit more when he needed it and could certainly pitch, but the FB was flatter than I thought. The CB was good, not great. Didn't get many swings and misses. I was shocked to see his numbers, because the stuff doesn't fit the results. He's a #4 type.
I'd rather have Kaminsky because there's a better chance he's a big league starter, but they're in fairly close proximity. (Jordan Gorosh)
|2014-07-03 19:00:00 (link to chat)||Who is the Cardinals next great pitcher: Rob Kaminsky, Alex Reyes or someone else?|
(scott from az)
|I saw Alex Reyes so I'm biased that way. He's got a lot of refining to do still but at 19 he has a big fastball and a hammer with a developing change. I might be in love with him. (Mauricio Rubio)|
|2014-05-27 11:30:00 (link to chat)||New guy, eh? Welcome! We know the Prof goes ga ga over the high ceiling youngsters who are sushi-grade raw. So what would you say your personal bias(es) are regarding prospects? |
(Howie from NYC)
|I think that's something that we all like. Ceiling talent is impact talent. You want guys who can impact the major leagues, and in a big way. The idea is to produce talent that you're not able to get on the open market.
In terms of my personal biases, I'm privy to lefties with pitchability. Someone like Andrew Heaney, for instance, because he's got an excellent shot of getting outs at the big league level, and for a long time. I also find myself attracted to guys like Rob Kaminsky, who have a legit plus, plus pitch, and feel for the mound. Even though he isn't a big guy, last I checked, you don't get extra points for being tall.
In terms of hitters, I like hit/power guys more than speed. Speed often overrates a prospect, and even though the adage 'you can't teach speed' is certainly true, it's easier to find on the open market than someone who can legitimately hit the baseball. (Jordan Gorosh)
|2014-04-01 13:00:00 (link to chat)||Marco Gonzales or Rob Kaminsky long term?|
(johnorpheus from St. Louis)
|I'll take the plus-plus CH every time. I'm a sucker for a high-end changeup. Give me Gonzales despite the weaker FB (Jason Parks)|
|2014-02-18 14:00:00 (link to chat)||Last year the Cardinals LHP looked barren. This year they had Kevin Siegrist and drafted Marco Gonzales and Rob Kaminsky and had Tim Cooney take a step forward. What gives?|
(Bubba from St. Louis)
|They felt like having a farm system with no weaknesses, I suppose. This is what they do. (Ronit Shah)|
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