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2019 Projections (Preseason PECOTA - seasonal age 25)
IP ERA WHIP SO W L SV WARP
67.7 5.45 1.68 56 4 4 0 -0.3
Birth Date6-27-1994
Height6' 6"
Weight185 lbs
Age24 years, 11 months, 30 days
BatsL
ThrowsL
2015
2016
2017
2018
-0.32019
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WARP Summary

MLB Statistics

Historical (past-seasons) WARP is now based on DRA..
cFIP and DRA are not available on a by-team basis and display as zeroes(0). See TOT line for season totals of these stats.
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YEAR Team Lg G GS IP W L SV H BB SO HR PPF H/9 BB/9 HR/9 K/9 GB% BABIP WHIP FIP ERA cFIP DRA DRA- WARP

Statistics for All Levels

'opp' stats - Quality of opponents faced - have been moved and are available only as OPP_QUAL in the Statistics reports now.
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YEAR Team Lg LG G GS IP W L SV H BB SO HR PPF H/9 BB/9 HR/9 K/9 GB% BABIP WHIP FIP ERA cFIP DRA DRA-
2013 RSX Rk GCL 5 5 7.0 0 1 0 10 6 5 1 98 12.9 7.7 1.3 6.4 0% .375 2.29 6.45 6.43 126 9.87 214.5
2014 GRN A SAL 22 22 100.0 5 10 0 111 39 68 9 112 10.0 3.5 0.8 6.1 0% .308 1.50 4.65 4.68 113 5.64 119.5
2015 SLM A+ CAR 25 25 129.3 9 13 0 129 60 77 16 106 9.0 4.2 1.1 5.4 0% .277 1.46 5.13 4.73 128 5.66 124.0
2016 SLM A+ CAR 23 23 117.3 8 6 0 121 68 86 8 109 9.3 5.2 0.6 6.6 0% .311 1.61 4.90 3.84 117 5.13 113.3
2016 SUR Wnt AFL 11 0 13.3 1 1 0 10 13 9 0 6.8 8.8 0.0 6.1 0% .250 1.73 5.35 6.08 0 0.00 0.0
2017 PME AA EAS 25 24 124.7 7 12 0 161 57 103 17 105 11.6 4.1 1.2 7.4 0% .373 1.75 0.00 5.27 108 7.27 154.6
2018 PME AA EAS 34 1 65.3 4 4 0 97 26 56 11 110 13.4 3.6 1.5 7.7 46% .389 1.88 5.07 7.58 112 7.85 165.9

Plate Discipline

YEAR Pits Zone% Swing% Contact% Z-Swing% O-Swing% Z-Contact% O-Contact% SwStr%

Injury History  —  No longer being updated

Last Update: 12/31/2014 23:59 ET

Date On Date Off Transaction Days Games Side Body Part Injury Severity Surgery Date Reaggravation
2014-05-10 2014-05-19 Minors 9 0 - General Medical Illness Strep Throat - -

Compensation

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2019 Preseason Forecast

Last Update: 1/27/2017 12:35 ET

PCT W L SV G GS IP H BB SO HR BABIP WHIP ERA DRA VORP WARP
90o 4.9 4.5 0.4 23 14 85.5 80 37 70 11 .278 1.38 4.01 4.41 8.8 1.0
80o 4.3 4.4 0.3 21 13 79.1 80 37 65 11 .293 1.48 4.42 4.86 4.4 0.5
70o 4 4.4 0.3 20 12 74.6 79 37 61 11 .303 1.55 4.72 5.18 1.7 0.2
60o 3.7 4.3 0.3 19 12 70.9 78 36 58 11 .312 1.62 4.98 5.47 -0.5 -0.1
50o 3.4 4.2 0.3 18 11 67.5 77 36 55 11 .320 1.68 5.23 5.74 -2.4 -0.3
40o 3.1 4.2 0.2 17 10 64.1 76 36 53 11 .328 1.75 5.48 6.01 -4.1 -0.4
30o 2.9 4.1 0.2 16 10 60.6 75 35 50 10 .337 1.82 5.76 6.31 -5.8 -0.6
20o 2.6 4 0.2 15 9 56.6 74 34 46 10 .347 1.91 6.09 6.67 -7.5 -0.8
10o 2.2 3.8 0.2 14 8 51.2 71 33 42 10 .362 2.03 6.56 7.17 -9.5 -1.0
Weighted Mean3.44.20.3181167.076355511.3181.675.205.7-2.1-0.2

Preseason Long-Term Forecast (Beyond the 2019 Projections)

Playing time estimates are based on performance, not Depth Charts.
Year Age W L SV G GS IP H BB SO HR GB% BABIP WHIP ERA DRA H/9 BB/9 K/9 HR/9 WARP
20202645020139210752771643.3221.725.706.0310.45.17.51.6-0.6
2021274502013899850761443.3121.665.505.819.95.07.71.4-0.4
2022284501912879948731543.3181.705.645.9610.35.07.61.6-0.5
20232945020139010249761543.3181.685.545.8610.24.97.61.5-0.4
2024304501913879847741543.3171.665.525.8410.14.87.61.5-0.4
2025313501812829345701443.3161.685.565.8810.24.97.71.5-0.4
2026323501711798842671343.3161.655.585.9010.14.87.71.5-0.4
2027333401711758440631343.3161.665.595.9110.14.87.61.6-0.4
2028343401610718038601243.3151.655.595.9110.14.87.61.5-0.4

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Rank Score Name Year Run Average Trend
1 97 Joe Savery 2011 0.00
2 96 Taylor Sinclair 2011 0.00 DNP
3 96 Trevor Harden 2013 0.00 DNP
4 95 Dimasther Delgado 2014 0.00 DNP
5 95 Justin Jones 2010 0.00 DNP
6 95 David Kopp 2011 0.00 DNP
7 95 Jon Michael Redding 2013 0.00 DNP
8 95 Tyson Brummett 2010 0.00 DNP
9 95 Luke Putkonen 2011 0.00 DNP
10 95 Michael Anton 2010 0.00 DNP
11 94 Shane Komine 2006 5.00
12 94 Johnnie Lowe 2010 0.00 DNP
13 94 Andrew Liebel 2011 0.00 DNP
14 94 Rett Varner 2013 0.00 DNP
15 94 Luis Noel 2013 0.00 DNP
16 93 Dallas Buck 2010 0.00 DNP
17 93 Kris Johnson 2010 0.00 DNP
18 93 Sergio Perez 2010 0.00 DNP
19 93 Sean Gleason 2011 0.00 DNP
20 93 Nick Schmidt 2011 0.00 DNP
21 93 Thomas Brewer 2010 0.00 DNP
22 93 Stephen Faris 2009 0.00 DNP
23 93 Ryan Kulik 2011 0.00 DNP
24 93 Perci Garner 2014 0.00 DNP
25 93 Graham Stoneburner 2013 0.00 DNP
26 93 Jesus A. Castillo 2009 0.00 DNP
27 93 Luis Angel Sanz 2013 0.00 DNP
28 93 Jacob Thompson 2012 0.00 DNP
29 93 Jake Stinnett 2017 0.00 DNP
30 93 Jacob Pettit 2012 0.00 DNP
31 93 Donald Hume 2011 0.00 DNP
32 93 Tyler Waldron 2014 0.00 DNP
33 93 Yohan Flande 2011 0.00 DNP
34 93 Jeff Allison 2010 0.00 DNP
35 93 Brandon Dickson 2010 0.00 DNP
36 92 Alan Johnson 2009 0.00 DNP
37 92 Neal Musser 2006 0.00 DNP
38 92 Jack Snodgrass 2013 0.00 DNP
39 92 Jake Petricka 2013 3.26
40 92 Pedro Figueroa 2011 0.00 DNP
41 92 Manauris Baez 2011 0.00 DNP
42 92 Paul Demny 2015 0.00 DNP
43 92 Tim Berry 2016 0.00 DNP
44 92 Adam Howard 2009 0.00 DNP
45 92 Ryan Mattheus 2009 0.00 DNP
46 92 Eric Arnett 2013 0.00 DNP
47 92 Cesar Ramos 2009 3.07
48 92 Andrew Kown 2008 0.00 DNP
49 92 Anthony Ortega 2011 0.00 DNP
50 92 Jeffrey Kaplan 2011 0.00 DNP
51 92 Nick Czyz 2012 0.00 DNP
52 92 Eric Beaulac 2012 0.00 DNP
53 92 Jake Jewell 2018 9.00
54 92 Paul Burnside 2012 0.00 DNP
55 91 Ryan Searle 2014 0.00 DNP
56 91 Pat Egan 2010 0.00 DNP
57 91 Tom Mastny 2006 5.51
58 91 Garrett Nuss 2018 0.00 DNP
59 91 Michael Connolly 2017 0.00 DNP
60 91 Reidier Gonzalez 2011 0.00 DNP
61 91 Zachary Nuding 2015 0.00 DNP
62 91 Stephen Locke 2011 0.00 DNP
63 91 Taylor Rogers 2012 0.00 DNP
64 91 Ryan O'Shea 2011 0.00 DNP
65 91 Jason Godin 2010 0.00 DNP
66 91 Justin Murray 2012 0.00 DNP
67 91 Deunte Heath 2011 0.00 DNP
68 91 Scott Copeland 2013 0.00 DNP
69 91 Scott Carroll 2010 0.00 DNP
70 91 Dustin Moseley 2007 4.40
71 91 Cesar Carrillo 2009 13.06
72 91 Geno Espineli 2008 5.63
73 91 Brandon Brennan 2017 0.00 DNP
74 91 Kyle Hallock 2014 0.00 DNP
75 91 Matthew Spann 2016 0.00 DNP
76 91 Cole DeVries 2010 0.00 DNP
77 91 Ryan Tatusko 2010 0.00 DNP
78 91 Eric Niesen 2011 0.00 DNP
79 91 Matt Buschmann 2009 0.00 DNP
80 91 Matt Purke 2016 6.00
81 91 Andrew Baldwin 2008 0.00 DNP
82 91 Mike Rayl 2014 0.00 DNP
83 91 Jordan Milbrath 2017 0.00 DNP
84 91 JC Ramirez 2014 0.00 DNP
85 91 Jeff Brigham 2017 0.00 DNP
86 91 Ismael Ramirez 2006 0.00 DNP
87 91 Jake Zokan 2016 0.00 DNP
88 91 Scott Lyman 2015 0.00 DNP
89 91 Albert Suarez 2015 0.00 DNP
90 91 Jacob deGrom 2013 0.00 DNP
91 91 Brad Wilson 2012 0.00 DNP
92 91 Timothy Bascom 2010 0.00 DNP
93 91 Kyle Heckathorn 2013 0.00 DNP
94 90 Adam Daniels 2008 0.00 DNP
95 90 Seth Streich 2016 0.00 DNP
96 90 Mike Hinckley 2008 0.66
97 90 Doug Fister 2009 4.28
98 90 Justin Collop 2013 0.00 DNP
99 90 Jake Floethe 2014 0.00 DNP
100 90 Jared Hughes 2011 4.09

BP Annual Player Comments

YearComment
2018 Hey so remember how Trey Ball was considered a two-way prospect when he was drafted seventh overall in 2013? That’s good, because hooo boy he can’t pitch.
2017 Drafted as a two-way prospect out of high school in 2013, Ball was projected by many to be a better pitcher than hitter. Fortunately, the Red Sox saw that Ball’s true talent lied in his bat, something the 22-year-old proved in High-A last season, hitting .271/.341/.381 in 533 PA. Now that he profiles as a corner outfielder with a great arm and a good hit tool, Ball ... wait, what? Ball is still a pitcher, and that slash line is actually what hitters did to him in Salem last season? *Extremely Michael Scott voice* Nooooo, God, No, Please, No.
2016 Ball's 2015 comment focused on his late-season surge and ultimate upside as reasons for optimism despite a poor 2014 showing. It's hardly unusual for a prep pitcher to struggle in his first taste of full-season action, and that was doubly true for Ball, who was relatively new to pitching full-time as a two-way draft prospect. After a totally uninspiring 2015 season in High-A, it's harder to make excuses for him. He is imposing, left-handed and shows some promise with his secondaries; those traits alone will afford him plenty of chances. That said, he's already used up his first one, and it would behoove him to get his last name rolling if he wants to remain a legitimate prospect. His first-round pedigree will only take him so far.
2015 Some evaluators viewed Ball as a better outfielder than pitcher before he was selected seventh overall in the 2013 draft. The Red Sox, wishing to add another entry to the Bob Walk/Grant Balfour/Homer Bailey pantheon of unfortunate pitcher names, decided to develop Ball on the mound instead. That looked like a mistake during the first half of the 2014 season, when Ball owned a 6.59 ERA through July 11th. The left-hander had trouble commanding his fastball/changeup combo and his curveball remains an unreliable weapon. However, Ball was much better over his final eight starts, sporting a 2.11 ERA thanks to a reduced walk rate and more swinging strikes. Ball might have failed to meet the lofty expectations placed upon a player of his draft status, but his comparative lack of high school pitching experience earns him a long leash.
2014 Unlike most high schoolers, the seventh overall pick in the 2013 draft wasn't allowed to throw a curveball regularly, as Ball's father imposed a changeup on him instead. That was a blessing for more than just health, as Ball's change is more refined than it has any right to be at his tender age, and his curve still looks to be a quality pitch despite its newness. Ball was the top southpaw available in his class, and while the 6-foot-6 southpaw needs to add to his 190 pound frame, he won't even turn 20 until June. Velocity should be attached to that growth: He already tops out in the mid-90s and sits in the lower portion, so more might be what puts him over the edge. There are scouts who think Ball profiles better as an outfielder, but that might be a testament to his athleticism and raw baseball talent more than any Sox mistake.

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BP Chats

DateQuestionAnswer
2019-03-14 15:00:00 (link to chat)My favorite prospect is Red Sox wunderkind Trey Ball. Tell me more about TreyBae.
(Nick from North Carolina)
I've already answered this question Mr. Ball. Please tell your son good luck this year. (Nathan Bishop)
2019-03-14 15:00:00 (link to chat)My favorite prospect is Red Sox wunderkind Trey Ball. Tell me more about TreyBae.
(Nick from North Carolina)
Trey Ball is a 24 year old pitcher who posted a 7.58 ERA in AA last year. He has soft blue eyes, and a kind smile. I am told his mother is very proud of him, but wishes he would call more often. (Nathan Bishop)
2019-03-15 16:00:00 (link to chat)My favorite prospect is Red Sox wunderkind Trey Ball. Tell me more about TreyBae.
(Nick from North Carolina)
I'm sort of interested to see what happens with him now that he's shifting into a role as a two-way player. I don't think it could get *worse*, right? (Mark Barry)
2019-03-11 16:00:00 (link to chat)My favorite prospect is Red Sox wunderkind Trey Ball. Tell me more about TreyBae.
(Nick from North Carolina)
This is a weird favorite prospect, and I feel bad that I'm not going to be more excited. Then again, maybe this is just the tremendously underwhelming version of the Wander Javier bit. Becoming a two-way player is all the rage these days, so it'll be fun to watch that for a little while if he gets the chance, but so far he hasn't even pitched well enough to be a mop-up reliever, so I don't hold out much hope. (Darius Austin)
2019-03-08 16:00:00 (link to chat)My favorite prospect is Red Sox wunderkind Trey Ball. Tell me more about TreyBae.
(Nick from North Carolina)
There once was a prospect named Ball.
Turns out he just can't pitch at all.
He should get off the mound
And be corner outfield bound
If he ever wants to get The Call. (Kevin Jebens)
2015-02-25 14:00:00 (link to chat)Thoughts on Trey Ball? Haven't heard too much about him. Is he moving slower because he was a 2-way guy in HS, or has he just not been that impressive?
(Shawn from Cubicle)
The feeling I've got from people around the industry is that Ball has been a disappointment so far. I'm sure his late start to pitching is a factor, but it sounds like a) he's way more of a project than many anticipated; and b) scouts felt he doesn't have the ceiling that was previously advertised. He's far from a "bust" or anything like that, but evaluators didn't think this was a special arm (and one even told me flatly "I didn't like him at all."). Plus, Boston is looking at a long developmental curve here. All the same, tall, athletic pitchers have this knack for suddenly putting things together and making scouts look bad. Ball is tall, very athletic, left-handed, still very young and quite capable of making the necessary adjustments. (Al Skorupa)
2015-01-20 19:30:00 (link to chat)Hey Ben, who do have as some of your favorite "to keep an eye on" prospects for 2015?
(kiper90 from Rochester, NY)
This is all over the place, but some guys who's values could fluctuate wildly from a fantasy POV for me are: Trey Ball, Chelsor Cuthbert, Casey Kelly, Tyler Austin, Tyrell Jenkins, Colin Moran, Kyle Crick, Matt Olson, Kyle Zimmer, Rymer Liriano, Gary Sanchez and Alen Hanson. All over the place, I know, but I feel like a lot of those guys are gonna go one of two ways. (Ben Carsley)
2014-10-31 13:00:00 (link to chat)Trey Ball finished with a decent second half. Have you heard many positive reports on him?
(Brett from Pawtucket)
I did not.

Ball is an interesting player with some raw athleticism and a decent FB. That's about it right now. I know the development curve could be different with him due to his length of time actually pitching being smaller, but I am hesitant on the overall potential. (Tucker Blair)
2014-09-23 13:00:00 (link to chat)What are your thoughts on the Greenville pitchers, especially Trey Ball and Teddy Stankiewicz?
(Eric V. from Greenville)
I missed Ball but heard underwhelming reports. I wrote up Stankiewicz in a Ten Pack.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=23831

I liked him a little, but he fit more of a #5/swingman type role for me. (Ethan Purser)
2014-07-03 19:00:00 (link to chat)Thanks for the chat! Who has the greatest ceiling and what is their future rotation spot - Lucas Sims, Trey Ball, Kohl Stewart, Jeff Hoffman, and Hunter Harvey.
(Nicta from Peoria AZ)
I think Kohl Stewart and Hunter Harvey have the biggest ceilings here. Kohl has a very athletic delivery/body and I dig his profile. I would probably put him over Harvey. (Mauricio Rubio)
2014-04-01 13:00:00 (link to chat)This is a theological question. Do you believe in Trey Ball? Not Baal. Does this make the previous tall, skinny lefty savior, Henry Owens, into John The Baptist?
(CyMature from Cabin (Fever))
I don't believe in Beatles I just believe in me. Yoko and me. (Jason Parks)
2013-11-14 13:00:00 (link to chat)Bonus chatting is the best chatting! Thanks Mark. Is Trey Ball's upside well below the tier of top arms you've cited above, or is he dinged more for high risk/lack of experience?
(Ed from Seattle)
I assume you're referencing the Red Sox pitching prospects I mentioned, and if that's the case, he's not included in that group because he is light years behind those guys in terms of development, while they are on the radar for next summer. That said, I think Ball has a ton of potential but I need to see him make adjustments to pro hitters and work through a long season. (Mark Anderson)
2013-11-05 13:00:00 (link to chat)Being a redsox fan! I thought bosox should have taken Austin Meadows instead of Trey Ball! Thoughts?!
(The minor league guy from Illinois)
I liked Ball. Improved reports on Meadows at the complex league, but still dubious about long term outlook. He looks the part, but I had a lot of viewings throughout the twelve months leading up to the draft and he regularly underwhelmed. Certainly wouldn't pay the $500K or so extra it would have cost to land Meadows at same slot. Too bad they couldn't entice Ryan Boldt away from Nebraska... (Nick J. Faleris)
2013-10-15 13:00:00 (link to chat)If you had a preference, would you have Trey Ball on the mound or in the field?
(Biscuits from Cali)
Mound (Jason Parks)


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